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Reply #90 posted 07/26/19 10:31am

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It's a music board though. A wide variety of musicians and artists are discussed throught the ORG

How much Jazz is discussed, you would think mostly over 40s members would be more likely than younger to be into it and talking about it.

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And I don't think everyone is 40 and over. Some do pretend to be. I find that too many orgers have a wrong perception about 'who' is actually on the other side of the computers; from age, to race, ethnicity, nationality and gender even. And it really doesn't matter how many people talk about it really. The Org talks about almost everything directly or within topics.

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I did not fail to mention Eminem. I did not mention any rapper by name. I mentioned who I wanted to because people can complain about a racist statement said 40yrs ago, but will there be condemnation for sexist misogynist or homophobic statement, lyrics and beliefs by rap artists. Or is there a 'racism' is worse than the latter mentality. Most of the people I've communicated with off Org who are flaring up about this 43yrs later don't know the context of when/where this was done, most think it was in the US and toward black American folk, they don't know what W)g means and who that is directed at, and most were not even Eric Clapton fans or followers.

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Who is throwing away their Soul On Ice Eldridge Cleaver books...

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I'm over 40 and I was listening to rap music in the early stages when it was just a drum machine and a rapper ...UTFO, Roxanne Shante/the Real Roxanne etc on 45s, I was at the Fresh Fest concerts I still have my favorites. and we talked about the Black Panter soundtrack on the Org too, I bought it thinking it was the score from the movie. Kendrick Lamar. I don't think there is one song that is full of the N word and Bitch. I couldn't take the album back to get an exchange, and I wasn't going to give it away to support that... crack crack snap in the garbage

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I doubt some of the people with the F Eric attitude, ever really listened to him to begin with.

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Everything he said 43yrs ago was xenophobic and racist. It was also within a British(not USA) situation directed at 'W)gs' Indians, Arabs, Africans, Meditteraneans. So again, what do we do with all of flare up. I gave solutions. What do we do with Artists/Entertainers/Musicians of any racial, gender persuasion.

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Is it me, or do all rappers sound the same?

https://prince.org/msg/8/428442

New songs by female rappers

https://prince.org/msg/8/457733

R.W.S. (Rappers With Sensitivity) Thread

https://prince.org/msg/8/450861

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On another note: African British actress Cynthia Erivo faces backlash playing 'Harriet Tubman'

I never said all orgers were forty and over. I said the majority more than likely are. You don't have to tell me about Jazz. I'm a jazz fan here but if one started a jazz thread here on a Prince message board the topic will most likely go by the wayside. I just attended a jazz concert in June with Gerald Albright, Johnathan Butler, and Michael McDonald. Jazz just isn't a very popular topic with the org which is why I don't bother. I was there during the conception of rap music Sugar Hill, Kurtis Blow, etc. and through the 80's,90's, and early 2000's but I'm not into the bullshit rap has evolved into today. No I'm not that huge of an Eric Clapton fan but do like a few of his songs and love his guitar work on Phil Collins I Wish It Would Rain which is why I stated I don't have a dog in the fight. You may be right on the fact that people are commenting on Eric about a comment made 40 years ago but that doesn't mean they don't have a right to voice their opinion about it. How many Trump supporters get on line and complain about LeBron James giving his opinions on world relations and they call him a dumb jock who barely gratutated from high school when in fact he is more articulate than they would ever know? My response is Kobe Bryant didn't go to college and is affluent in 3 foreign languages something that they aren't. Just because you didn't attend college doesn't mean you're dumb and half of the people talking shit about them probably didn't attend college either. I brought up the Eminem example because your statement said and implied that only African American rappers said misogynistic and homophobic things. The Beastie Boys whom I was a fan of weren't free from controversy either. I just brought up Eminem because he was one of the more offensive and controversial rappers in history but his predominantly suburban fanbase didn't seem to mind or complain. I'm not excusing any rappers of said behavior but I'm not gonna let Eminem off the hook either. Truth is the topic is definitively about Eric Clapton I was just curious to see why you brought African American rappers into it as though there weren't any white rappers or rock artists who have been just as offensive.

You're not hearing me if you are saying 'people should have a right to voice their opinion about it' No where did you or the friend you were asking for read that I said that. I did and am asking 'ok, what's next?' That man talked about it, apologized about it, others have talked about how he felt bad about it for 20+ yrs, etc what do we do now? I mean if someone is not a fan anyway, what do they do? If you are a fan, what do you do?

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I brought up the AA rappers because there is usually an hypocrisy to outrage: a lot of times the ones raising a voice about racism to them are also misogynist and sexist toward women and homophobic toward gays and will say in so many ways that 'it's not the same thing'... Not to mention that this isn't even an American thing in history.

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Not to mention that it is xenophobic sentiments like this are common through this world on every continent and country.

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But with that, I said and ask, do we therefore give a FUCK YOU to the ones that do, or just to Eric Clapton? I'm saying Eric like Lenny like Slash like Celine like Questluv, like NAS like Pink like George Benson like Cher like Beyonce like.... are not 'political/social/religious' personalities... outside of the 'fame' their really like us in life traffics.


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Wesley Snipes, made disparraging comments about African American women in the media, I stopped supporting him. I don't condone nor agree with what he said. Serena Williams recently said some things about Black American men... So with Eric, outside of the passe outrage

, what do we do?

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Reply #91 posted 07/27/19 12:31am

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No you're not hearing yourself. The Eric Clapton thing is an afterthought to me at this point.

I'm asking you why did you point out African American rappers who you felt were misogynistic and all those other things and why aren't their threads on them and your suggestion they're given a pass and asked you why the exclusion of Eminem who has offended many with his lyrics. Don't know if you were suggesting if that's the case here on the org or folks you encounter outside the org. I don't know any of that to be true on the org. There are a great deal of people on the org that don't follow rap. I've read about Rocky A$AP, Migos, Kodak Black, Meek Mill and still don't know who the fuck they are or able to name one recording by them. A lot of us old heads aren't even paying attention to current rap these days(which could explain the lack of threads by rap artists). My challenge to you is why did you choose to make such a blanket statement.

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Reply #92 posted 07/27/19 4:24pm

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No you're not hearing yourself. The Eric Clapton thing is an afterthought to me at this point.

I'm asking you why did you point out African American rappers who you felt were misogynistic and all those other things and why aren't their threads on them and your suggestion they're given a pass and asked you why the exclusion of Eminem who has offended many with his lyrics. Don't know if you were suggesting if that's the case here on the org or folks you encounter outside the org. I don't know any of that to be true on the org. There are a great deal of people on the org that don't follow rap. I've read about Rocky A$AP, Migos, Kodak Black, Meek Mill and still don't know who the fuck they are or able to name one recording by them. A lot of us old heads aren't even paying attention to current rap these days(which could explain the lack of threads by rap artists). My challenge to you is why did you choose to make such a blanket statement.

I'll wait 4 the response.......

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Reply #93 posted 07/28/19 9:10am

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If we're going to call Eric Clapton a racist then let's not forget Michael Jackson is an anti-semite.
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Reply #94 posted 07/28/19 5:29pm

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No you're not hearing yourself. The Eric Clapton thing is an afterthought to me at this point.

I'm asking you why did you point out African American rappers who you felt were misogynistic and all those other things and why aren't their threads on them and your suggestion they're given a pass and asked you why the exclusion of Eminem who has offended many with his lyrics. Don't know if you were suggesting if that's the case here on the org or folks you encounter outside the org. I don't know any of that to be true on the org. There are a great deal of people on the org that don't follow rap. I've read about Rocky A$AP, Migos, Kodak Black, Meek Mill and still don't know who the fuck they are or able to name one recording by them. A lot of us old heads aren't even paying attention to current rap these days(which could explain the lack of threads by rap artists). My challenge to you is why did you choose to make such a blanket statement.

I already explained it. you are not listening.

If your friend is still askig tell em to move on with it

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Reply #95 posted 07/28/19 5:30pm

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No you're not hearing yourself. The Eric Clapton thing is an afterthought to me at this point.

I'm asking you why did you point out African American rappers who you felt were misogynistic and all those other things and why aren't their threads on them and your suggestion they're given a pass and asked you why the exclusion of Eminem who has offended many with his lyrics. Don't know if you were suggesting if that's the case here on the org or folks you encounter outside the org. I don't know any of that to be true on the org. There are a great deal of people on the org that don't follow rap. I've read about Rocky A$AP, Migos, Kodak Black, Meek Mill and still don't know who the fuck they are or able to name one recording by them. A lot of us old heads aren't even paying attention to current rap these days(which could explain the lack of threads by rap artists). My challenge to you is why did you choose to make such a blanket statement.

I'll wait 4 the response.......

Aren't you planning the mass exodus?

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Reply #97 posted 07/28/19 10:48pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

phunkdaddy said:

No you're not hearing yourself. The Eric Clapton thing is an afterthought to me at this point.

I'm asking you why did you point out African American rappers who you felt were misogynistic and all those other things and why aren't their threads on them and your suggestion they're given a pass and asked you why the exclusion of Eminem who has offended many with his lyrics. Don't know if you were suggesting if that's the case here on the org or folks you encounter outside the org. I don't know any of that to be true on the org. There are a great deal of people on the org that don't follow rap. I've read about Rocky A$AP, Migos, Kodak Black, Meek Mill and still don't know who the fuck they are or able to name one recording by them. A lot of us old heads aren't even paying attention to current rap these days(which could explain the lack of threads by rap artists). My challenge to you is why did you choose to make such a blanket statement.

I already explained it. you are not listening.

If your friend is still askig tell em to move on with it

You didn't explain anything. You dodged the question totally. I'm not the only one who sees it.

But yeah enough of beating a dead horse here.

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Reply #98 posted 07/29/19 5:00am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I already explained it. you are not listening.

If your friend is still askig tell em to move on with it

You didn't explain anything. You dodged the question totally. I'm not the only one who sees it.

But yeah enough of beating a dead horse here.

Ha........U knew that was coming.

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Your issue is that you wanted/expected a different answer. That's on you... and your invisible friend

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There is my answer: I brought up the AA rappers because there is usually an hypocrisy to outrage: a lot of times the ones raising a voice about racism to them are also misogynist and sexist toward women and homophobic toward gays and will say in so many ways that 'it's not the same thing'... Not to mention that this isn't even an American thing in history. Not to mention that it is xenophobic sentiments like this are common through this world on every continent and country. . But with that, I said and ask, do we therefore give a FUCK YOU to the ones that do, or just to Eric Clapton? I'm saying Eric like Lenny like Slash like Celine like Questluv, like NAS like Pink like George Benson like Cher like Beyonce like.... are not 'political/social/religious' personalities... outside of the 'fame' their really like us in life traffics.

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Reply #100 posted 07/29/19 5:35am

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phunkdaddy said:

You didn't explain anything. You dodged the question totally. I'm not the only one who sees it.

But yeah enough of beating a dead horse here.

Ha........U knew that was coming.

I expect nothing from you, but what is the next step after your FUCK ERIC? you weren't ever fan of his anyways. So what is the next step for you outside of faux outrage?
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If we're going to call Eric Clapton a racist then let's not forget Michael Jackson is an anti-semite. https://youtu.be/p2xpctm9_YA

Like I said to them, let's just go through everyone's lyrics comments and interviews so we can be outraged and hold it against them all no matter what.
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Ha........U knew that was coming.

I expect nothing from you, but what is the next step after your FUCK ERIC? you weren't ever fan of his anyways. So what is the next step for you outside of faux outrage?

Lol.........U a clown.

That said, folks simply have 2 let stuff go.

I have better things 2 do with my time.

None of this serves me in any way, shape or form.

[Edited 7/29/19 6:26am]

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I expect nothing from you, but what is the next step after your FUCK ERIC? you weren't ever fan of his anyways. So what is the next step for you outside of faux outrage?

Lol.........U a clown.

That said, folks simply have 2 let stuff go.

I have better things 2 do with my time.

None of this serves me in any way, shape or form.

[Edited 7/29/19 6:26am]

LOL a joke I could call you a couple of names, but you have a history of crying.

Don't live in a state of suspended animated emotion, all that stuff just turning over and around in you isn't healthy. Make a decision.

Either burn your Eric Clapton free downloaded MP3's that you never had to begin with or get over it.

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Reply #104 posted 07/29/19 7:58am

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Graycap23 said:

Lol.........U a clown.

That said, folks simply have 2 let stuff go.

I have better things 2 do with my time.

None of this serves me in any way, shape or form.

[Edited 7/29/19 6:26am]

LOL a joke I could call you a couple of names, but you have a history of crying.

Don't live in a state of suspended animated emotion, all that stuff just turning over and around in you isn't healthy. Make a decision.

Either burn your Eric Clapton free downloaded MP3's that you never had to begin with or get over it.

Honestly dude,

have a good day.

This nonsense is past boring.

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Reply #105 posted 07/29/19 8:15am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

LOL a joke I could call you a couple of names, but you have a history of crying.

Don't live in a state of suspended animated emotion, all that stuff just turning over and around in you isn't healthy. Make a decision.

Either burn your Eric Clapton free downloaded MP3's that you never had to begin with or get over it.

Honestly dude,

have a good day.

This nonsense is past boring.

I always have a good day

peace 2 u and yours

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Reply #106 posted 07/30/19 12:06am

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OldFriends4Sale said:[quote]

Your issue is that you wanted/expected a different answer. That's on you... and your invisible friend


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There is my answer: I brought up the AA rappers because there is usually an hypocrisy to outrage: a lot of times the ones raising a voice about racism to them are also misogynist and sexist toward women and homophobic toward gays and will say in so many ways that 'it's not the same thing'... Not to mention that this isn't even an American thing in history. Not to mention that it is xenophobic sentiments like this are common through this world on every continent and country. . But with that, I said and ask, do we therefore give a FUCK YOU to the ones that do, or just to Eric Clapton? I'm saying Eric like Lenny like Slash like Celine like Questluv, like NAS like Pink like George Benson like Cher like Beyonce like.... are not 'political/social/religious' personalities... outside of the 'fame' their really like us in life traffics.

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Talking in circles. Please don't talk about folks who have a history of crying. Your picture is right next to it in the dictionary based on your history here.
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Reply #107 posted 07/30/19 5:15am

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But yeah enough of beating a dead horse here.

tell it to your invisible friend

phunkdaddy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Your issue is that you wanted/expected a different answer. That's on you... and your invisible friend

.

There is my answer: I brought up the AA rappers because there is usually an hypocrisy to outrage: a lot of times the ones raising a voice about racism to them are also misogynist and sexist toward women and homophobic toward gays and will say in so many ways that 'it's not the same thing'... Not to mention that this isn't even an American thing in history. Not to mention that it is xenophobic sentiments like this are common through this world on every continent and country. . But with that, I said and ask, do we therefore give a FUCK YOU to the ones that do, or just to Eric Clapton? I'm saying Eric like Lenny like Slash like Celine like Questluv, like NAS like Pink like George Benson like Cher like Beyonce like.... are not 'political/social/religious' personalities... outside of the 'fame' their really like us in life traffics.

[/quote Talking in circles. Please don't talk about folks who have a history of crying. Your picture is right next to it in the dictionary based on your history here.

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Reply #108 posted 07/30/19 10:50pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

But yeah enough of beating a dead horse here.


tell it to your invisible friend




phunkdaddy said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

Your issue is that you wanted/expected a different answer. That's on you... and your invisible friend


.


There is my answer: I brought up the AA rappers because there is usually an hypocrisy to outrage: a lot of times the ones raising a voice about racism to them are also misogynist and sexist toward women and homophobic toward gays and will say in so many ways that 'it's not the same thing'... Not to mention that this isn't even an American thing in history. Not to mention that it is xenophobic sentiments like this are common through this world on every continent and country. . But with that, I said and ask, do we therefore give a FUCK YOU to the ones that do, or just to Eric Clapton? I'm saying Eric like Lenny like Slash like Celine like Questluv, like NAS like Pink like George Benson like Cher like Beyonce like.... are not 'political/social/religious' personalities... outside of the 'fame' their really like us in life traffics.


[/quote Talking in circles. Please don't talk about folks who have a history of crying. Your picture is right next to it in the dictionary based on your history here.




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