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Thread started 03/02/19 10:26am

Sukiyaki

Five Star

Does anyone know them?

Five Star, known as the britsh jackson 5, is a group, consisting of the five siblings, Stedman, Lorraine, Denise, Doris and Delroy Pearson.

I like their well polished choreography and the fresh sounds.

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Reply #1 posted 03/02/19 1:04pm

SoulAlive

"Let Me Be The One" music

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Reply #2 posted 03/02/19 1:29pm

lool

Not personally.
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Reply #3 posted 03/02/19 1:32pm

lool

Sukiyaki, is that you Denise...er...Deneice?
[Edited 3/2/19 13:35pm]
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Reply #4 posted 03/02/19 2:53pm

SoulAlive

They had some fun,catchy tunes in the 80s,but "Let Me Be The One" is my absolute favorite.Great track that still sounds good to this day.

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Reply #5 posted 03/02/19 3:14pm

SoulAlive

one of the guys looks like Michael Jsckson (Thriller era) smile

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Reply #6 posted 03/03/19 10:34pm

ReddBlitz

Great output from a cool n' brilliant group from back in the day.
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Reply #7 posted 03/05/19 7:40am

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Sukiyaki said:

Does anyone know them?

Five Star, known as the britsh jackson 5, is a group, consisting of the five siblings, Stedman, Lorraine, Denise, Doris and Delroy Pearson.

I like their well polished choreography and the fresh sounds.

I know and love them

yes yes yes yes yes

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Reply #8 posted 03/05/19 1:33pm

SoulAlive

has there been an Unsung episode on Five Star?

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Reply #9 posted 03/05/19 1:38pm

funkaholic1972

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Love them!! No Five Star thread can be complete without this one:

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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Reply #10 posted 03/05/19 5:35pm

Abdul

My favorite Five Star jam "Love Take Over"

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Reply #11 posted 03/05/19 7:26pm

ReddBlitz

SoulAlive said:

has there been an Unsung episode on Five Star?



No.
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Reply #12 posted 03/06/19 8:34am

Sukiyaki

Abdul said:

My favorite Five Star jam "Love Take Over"

This is the first song by Five Star i listened to and took to them.

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Reply #13 posted 03/06/19 8:37am

Sukiyaki

funkaholic1972 said:

Love them!! No Five Star thread can be complete without this one:

I love this song too biggrin, but unfortunately, i'm unable to see this in my country.

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Reply #14 posted 03/06/19 6:17pm

SoulAlive

ReddBlitz said:

SoulAlive said:

has there been an Unsung episode on Five Star?



No.


That show should consider them.
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Reply #15 posted 03/07/19 6:01am

DaveT

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Love me some Five Star ... shame they were only around for a short while. Always thought the guitar solo in Slightest Touch was proper kickass, and Rain or Shine is still a brilliant track.

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Reply #16 posted 03/08/19 4:56pm

SoulAlive

“Can’t Wait Another Minute” is another one that I like.Guess I should find a compilation by them smile
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Reply #17 posted 03/16/19 11:21am

Sukiyaki

Another my favorite they peformed on The top of The Pops

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Reply #18 posted 03/16/19 5:33pm

hardwork

Can't speak for the UK, but in NYC "All Fall Down" was by far their biggest hit record - it was a huge smash with the urban audience and dominated black radio in NYC in the Summer of 1985. Their other records were minor hits, but not this one.

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Reply #19 posted 03/16/19 9:44pm

lool

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Can't speak for the UK, but in NYC "All Fall Down" was by far their biggest hit record - it was a huge smash with the urban audience and dominated black radio in NYC in the Summer of 1985. Their other records were minor hits, but not this one.






Them and their team really dropped the ball in the US. This should've cemented them as an R&B act in the states but they went all pop/rock with their next few albums and gradually lost black radio support. Even with massive black radio play, "All Fall Down" peaked at only #16 (R&B) on Billboard.
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Reply #20 posted 03/16/19 9:51pm

lool

And now...the New Jack hit that never was...

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Reply #21 posted 03/16/19 10:48pm

Comser

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Five Star: The Collection is by far the best.....

CD 1 (All original single versions unless otherwise noted)

System Addict 4:03
Rain Or Shine (Edit) 4:01
The Slightest Touch (7" Pettibone Remix) 4:21
Find The Time 3:57
Can't Wait Another Minute 4:31
If I say Yes 3:42
Let Me Be The One 4:42
Love Take over 3:56
Are You Man enough? (Album Version) 4:36
Someone's In Love (Album Version) 4:23
Another Weekend 4:09
Crazy 3:59
R.S.V.P. 3:27
All Fall Down 3:33
Knock Twice 4:11
Winning 3:35
Somewhere Somebody 4:13
Hot Love 3:17
Ain't watcha Do 3:29
There's a Brand New World 3:43

CD 2

Stay Out Of My Life 4:01
Whenever You're Ready 4:16
Strong As Steel 4:27
Treat Me Like A Lady (US Album Version) 4:20
Rock My World 4:09
With Every Heartbeat 4:11
Hide and Seek 5:33
The Slightest Touch (12" Pettibone Remix) 6:54
Love Take Over (Extended) 6:22
Another Weekend (Saturday Night Mix) 6:14
Shine 4:47
Let Me Be Yours (Remix) 5:34
Find The Time (Midnight Mix) 6:53
Five Star Hit Mix 12:09
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Reply #22 posted 03/17/19 5:22am

hardwork

lool said:

hardwork said:

Can't speak for the UK, but in NYC "All Fall Down" was by far their biggest hit record - it was a huge smash with the urban audience and dominated black radio in NYC in the Summer of 1985. Their other records were minor hits, but not this one.

Them and their team really dropped the ball in the US. This should've cemented them as an R&B act in the states but they went all pop/rock with their next few albums and gradually lost black radio support. Even with massive black radio play, "All Fall Down" peaked at only #16 (R&B) on Billboard.

Interestingly enough, "All Fall Down" was produced by Nick Martinelli, an Italian DJ from Philadelphia who was responsible for producing the breakthrough hit "Hangin' On a String" for Brit soul pioneers Loose Ends and their later hit plantinum LP "Zagora." In fact, I understand that members of Loose Ends (assume this to mean Carl and Steve as they were the instrumentalists of the group) played on "All Fall Down" meaning it was a Loose Ends record, basically, with Five Star providing the vocals and overall vibe. (LOL Steve the guy from Loose Ends who looks like a model, is in fact a clasically trained trumpet player, and is likely playing in the horn section on "All Fall Down.") In this sense, it seems that Five Star initially was deliberately followoing the path beaten by Martinelli and Loose Ends and it initially was working, at least in the NYC area where Loose Ends was first broken. I understand Five Star became a big pop phenemonon type of thing in the UK a la maybe even the Spice Girls (at least in terms of scope) to the piont where they were ubiquitous in the UK and the average Brit probably knew who they were. Not the case in the U.S. (nor was this true of Loose Ends.) Interesting path Five Star traveled all the way around. They wound up vastly more popular in the UK than the US, whereas it was the other way around for niche R&B group Loose Ends (as it was for bonafide stars Sade, as well.). I would be very happy to learn more how this happened if anyone could offer enlightment.

[Edited 3/17/19 6:37am]

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Reply #23 posted 03/17/19 5:33pm

lool

hardwork said:


Interestingly enough, "All Fall Down" was produced by Nick Martinelli, an Italian DJ from Philadelphia who was responsible for producing the breakthrough hit "Hangin' On a String" for Brit soul pioneers Loose Ends and their later hit plantinum LP "Zagora." In fact, I understand that members of Loose Ends (assume this to mean Carl and Steve as they were the instrumentalists of the group) played on "All Fall Down" meaning it was a Loose Ends record, basically, with Five Star providing the vocals and overall vibe. (LOL Steve the guy from Loose Ends who looks like a model, is in fact a clasically trained trumpet player, and is likely playing in the horn section on "All Fall Down.") In this sense, it seems that Five Star initially was deliberately followoing the path beaten by Martinelli and Loose Ends and it initially was working, at least in the NYC area where Loose Ends was first broken. I understand Five Star became a big pop phenemonon type of thing in the UK a la maybe even the Spice Girls (at least in terms of scope) to the piont where they were ubiquitous in the UK and the average Brit probably knew who they were. Not the case in the U.S. (nor was this true of Loose Ends.) Interesting path Five Star traveled all the way around. They wound up vastly more popular in the UK than the US, whereas it was the other way around for niche R&B group Loose Ends (as it was for bonafide stars Sade, as well.). I would be very happy to learn more how this happened if anyone could offer enlightment.







Nick and Loose Ends were also behind their singles "Let Me Be The One" (#2 R&B), and "R.S.V.P." . The group should've employed their services for the second album as well just to have some balance. Instead they brought in the pop songwriters and producers and were heavily marketed to pre-teens. That's when they blew up in the UK and began losing black radio in the US. The second album was massive in the UK but most of the singles were not released in the US. Probably too poppy and RCA were not shelling out pop promotional dollars for Five Star. The songs probably were not going to hit stateside at black radio anyway. But the few US singles from the second album all made the top 20 on Billboard's R&B chart. All that exposure in the UK might've been overkill because the kids and the press turned on them after a few years. They brought in Leon Sylvers III to give the 4th album some soul but he was kind of old news by 1988. And the new leather gear and Denise's humongous blonde hair extensions and spot-on MJ-style vocalizing did them no favors at the time. It was an attention-grabbing look for a photo shoot. But the first two videos from the album had them sporting the same look. The songs were decent enough but they just over-saturated the UK market and people just wanted them to go away. Now if they'd have spent 1/3 of that time, money, energy maintaining the following they'd found with US R&B audiences, they would have rebounded nicely when they started focusing on R&B again. But the momentum was lost and aside from Soul Train appearances and the occasional video played on BET, they pretty much had no noticeable presence in the US after 1987. RCA didn't even release their 1989 greatest hits album here, which contained this new banger that should've at least gotten them some club play....

[Edited 3/17/19 17:54pm]
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Reply #24 posted 03/17/19 9:15pm

hardwork

lool said:

hardwork said:

Interestingly enough, "All Fall Down" was produced by Nick Martinelli, an Italian DJ from Philadelphia who was responsible for producing the breakthrough hit "Hangin' On a String" for Brit soul pioneers Loose Ends and their later hit plantinum LP "Zagora." In fact, I understand that members of Loose Ends (assume this to mean Carl and Steve as they were the instrumentalists of the group) played on "All Fall Down" meaning it was a Loose Ends record, basically, with Five Star providing the vocals and overall vibe. (LOL Steve the guy from Loose Ends who looks like a model, is in fact a clasically trained trumpet player, and is likely playing in the horn section on "All Fall Down.") In this sense, it seems that Five Star initially was deliberately followoing the path beaten by Martinelli and Loose Ends and it initially was working, at least in the NYC area where Loose Ends was first broken. I understand Five Star became a big pop phenemonon type of thing in the UK a la maybe even the Spice Girls (at least in terms of scope) to the piont where they were ubiquitous in the UK and the average Brit probably knew who they were. Not the case in the U.S. (nor was this true of Loose Ends.) Interesting path Five Star traveled all the way around. They wound up vastly more popular in the UK than the US, whereas it was the other way around for niche R&B group Loose Ends (as it was for bonafide stars Sade, as well.). I would be very happy to learn more how this happened if anyone could offer enlightment.

Nick and Loose Ends were also behind their singles "Let Me Be The One" (#2 R&B), and "R.S.V.P." . The group should've employed their services for the second album as well just to have some balance. Instead they brought in the pop songwriters and producers and were heavily marketed to pre-teens. That's when they blew up in the UK and began losing black radio in the US. The second album was massive in the UK but most of the singles were not released in the US. Probably too poppy and RCA were not shelling out pop promotional dollars for Five Star. The songs probably were not going to hit stateside at black radio anyway. But the few US singles from the second album all made the top 20 on Billboard's R&B chart. All that exposure in the UK might've been overkill because the kids and the press turned on them after a few years. They brought in Leon Sylvers III to give the 4th album some soul but he was kind of old news by 1988. And the new leather gear and Denise's humongous blonde hair extensions and spot-on MJ-style vocalizing did them no favors at the time. It was an attention-grabbing look for a photo shoot. But the first two videos from the album had them sporting the same look. The songs were decent enough but they just over-saturated the UK market and people just wanted them to go away. Now if they'd have spent 1/3 of that time, money, energy maintaining the following they'd found with US R&B audiences, they would have rebounded nicely when they started focusing on R&B again. But the momentum was lost and aside from Soul Train appearances and the occasional video played on BET, they pretty much had no noticeable presence in the US after 1987. RCA didn't even release their 1989 greatest hits album here, which contained this new banger that should've at least gotten them some club play.... [Edited 3/17/19 17:54pm]

Thank you! Very interesting.

One wonders even if Five Star could have maintained themselves as an R&B presence in the U.S. into the late 80s what would have happened to them in the face of the advent of New Jack Swing. Consider what they might have done musically had they done some work with Carl McIntosh during the "Look How Long" period, when he had completely revamped the Loose Ends sound - and very successfully at least from a music if not necessarily a sales standpoint - to re-orient the band in a marketplace now being dominated by hip-hop. I don't think Carl really gets the credit for this that he deserved. That could have been really something musically. In any event, I agree it is definitely a shame to have built a sound and a space for yourself in American R&B - successfully, and as Brits - and then to just wantonly go off in another direction and not consolidate your victory, as it were.

[Edited 3/17/19 21:17pm]

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