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Thread started 05/26/17 8:54pm

Shawy89

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Stevie Wonder vs David Bowie: Better 70s catalog?

Both prolific artists with a string of highly acclaimed albums during the 70's.

Which do you prefer? And what is your favorite Stevie / David album?
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Reply #1 posted 05/27/17 6:44am

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Naturally Stevie. I've never listened to a single Bowie album so I can't be impartial here.
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Reply #2 posted 05/27/17 8:14am

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Love them both in different ways, but I'd rather have Stevie's catalog.

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Reply #3 posted 05/27/17 9:30am

206Michelle

Bowie and Stevie are very different artists, it's kind of hard to compare them. Both of their catalogues are important. I'm totally biased toward Stevie Wonder because he's my favourite musician of all time. I am definintely going to say that Stevie's 1970s catalogue is my preference, without a doubt.

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Reply #4 posted 05/27/17 11:11am

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There really isn't any comparison. Both have excellent catalogues. There is no "better than." It really is just a matter of preference.

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Reply #5 posted 05/27/17 2:35pm

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They were both killer.

My fave Stevie is probably Innervisions and Bowie is probably Young Americans (alot of fans hate it shrug)
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Reply #6 posted 05/27/17 3:01pm

datdude

MotownSubdivision said:

Naturally Stevie. I've never listened to a single Bowie album so I can't be impartial here.

yup, same here. closest to a "complete" bowie album i ever heard is Let's Dance, and that's because of its singles and commercial bent. stevie all day on this for me. partiality noted

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Reply #7 posted 05/27/17 5:01pm

thedoorkeeper

I'm going with Bowie & my favorite 70's Bowie is Station to Station with Young Americans a very close second. biggrin
I loved Stevie Wonders big orange double album but that was the only one of his albums I owned.
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Reply #8 posted 05/27/17 5:03pm

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hmmm I'm going to go with David Bowie - Hunky Dory, Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane, Station to Station, Low and "Heroes" was just a quality portfolio. Not to mention The Idiot and Lust for Life with Iggy Pop.

My favourite Stevie Wonder album from this period is Songs in the Key of Life.

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Reply #9 posted 05/27/17 5:03pm

thedoorkeeper

Songs in the Key of Life - I knew I would remember biggrin lol
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Reply #10 posted 05/28/17 7:03am

RJOrion

stevie wonder...most of Bowie's stuff is completely unlistenable to me...he had a gruesome singing voice...other than Fame or Young Americans or Golden Years, his music was trash, IMO...i do like the Blackstar album because of the instrumentation, while i tune out his ghoulish singing style...stevie is one of the 5 greatest singer/musician/writers of all time...stevie vs elton john is a better comparison
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Reply #11 posted 05/28/17 10:13am

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Bowie by far... Stevie hasn't done anything close to the musical experimentation Bowie did... Plus Stevie's music doesn't challenge a listener, it's nice but forgettable to me... Bowie's 1970's output went far beyond the borders of known music and created a new landscape like Prince did in the 1980's...

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Reply #12 posted 05/28/17 10:40am

RJOrion

"stevie's music doesnt challenge the listener"


LMAO @ that
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Reply #13 posted 05/28/17 11:13am

Neversin

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RJOrion said:

"stevie's music doesnt challenge the listener"


LMAO @ that

If you are challenged by his music then that's nice for you, I need more complex structures to nurture my musical taste and keep me interested, not to mention for example eastern musical influences which Bowie incorporated in his music and played with and Stevie, well, not so much...

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Reply #14 posted 05/28/17 12:09pm

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Bowie for me. If only because of the diversity. To go from "Life on Mars?" to "Young Americans" to "Warszawa" to "Blackout" alone is amazing.

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Reply #15 posted 05/28/17 4:36pm

ReddBlitz

In all fairness, there's no comparison really of the two. It's like apples to oranges. However, what's made Wonder and Bowie unique is that they're very bold, experimental and very eclectic. Both their entire catalogs suggest that.
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Reply #16 posted 05/28/17 5:45pm

liljojo

I Prefer the greatest group of all time, better than Prince & his groups, better material, better writing, and larger catalogue.

Jesus & The 12 disciplines. All lyrics in RED, all instruments played by Christ, Produced by Child of God, and backing vocals done by the Trinity. After Judas signed with Hell Naw records, Jesus broke up the band.

http://zackhunt.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/jesusguitar2.jpg

But seriously I forfeit my vote as I've never listened to any Bowie albums completely So by default Stevie Wins for me.

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Reply #17 posted 05/28/17 6:02pm

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Neversin said:

Bowie by far... Stevie hasn't done anything close to the musical experimentation Bowie did... Plus Stevie's music doesn't challenge a listener, it's nice but forgettable to me... Bowie's 1970's output went far beyond the borders of known music and created a new landscape like Prince did in the 1980's... Neversin.

eek eek That's zome crazy shit right there, i know that is your opinion but still...

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Reply #18 posted 05/28/17 6:27pm

RJOrion

Neversin said:

RJOrion said:

"stevie's music doesnt challenge the listener"


LMAO @ that

If you are challenged by his music then that's nice for you, I need more complex structures to nurture my musical taste and keep me interested, not to mention for example eastern musical influences which Bowie incorporated in his music and played with and Stevie, well, not so much...

Neversin.


oh my...with that said....Do you have any Grey Poupon?
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Reply #19 posted 05/28/17 6:29pm

gandorb

Hard to compare. Stevie seems way more advanced as a musician but Bowie seemed to be much more of an artist.
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Reply #20 posted 05/28/17 7:01pm

214

liljojo said:

I Prefer the greatest group of all time, better than Prince & his groups, better material, better writing, and larger catalogue.

Jesus & The 12 disciplines. All lyrics in RED, all instruments played by Christ, Produced by Child of God, and backing vocals done by the Trinity. After Judas signed with Hell Naw records, Jesus broke up the band.

http://zackhunt.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/jesusguitar2.jpg

But seriously I forfeit my vote as I've never listened to any Bowie albums completely So by default Stevie Wins for me.

lol lol What was their greatest hit?

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Reply #21 posted 05/28/17 8:02pm

Moonbeam

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Yikes, this is a tough choice. My favorite 70s album might just be Songs in the Key of Life, but Bowie has more albums which I love from the 70s than Stevie, so he might get the edge on that front.

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #22 posted 05/28/17 8:48pm

TonyVanDam

Stevie Wonder & David Bowie were to the 1970's what Michael Jackson & Prince were to the 1980's.

With that said, my vote goes the Stevie.

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Reply #23 posted 05/29/17 1:59pm

Guitarhero

TonyVanDam said:

Stevie Wonder & David Bowie were to the 1970's what Michael Jackson & Prince were to the 1980's.

With that said, my vote goes the Stevie.

Totally agree nod

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Reply #24 posted 05/30/17 7:42am

starbuck

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Bowie by far, no one could come close to his genius streak in the 70s Station to Station and Low alone would warrant a place in music heaven 4ever

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Reply #25 posted 05/30/17 11:44am

Dasein

Neversin said:

Bowie by far... Stevie hasn't done anything close to the musical experimentation Bowie did... Plus Stevie's music doesn't challenge a listener, it's nice but forgettable to me... Bowie's 1970's output went far beyond the borders of known music and created a new landscape like Prince did in the 1980's... Neversin.


I don't think I can disagree with a post any more than I disagree with this one.

Stevie Wonder's musical compositions features a harmonic sophistication that doesn't have too
many peers. The reason why you don't perceive his music as being a challenging listen could
be due to several things but I think a explanative possibility could rest in his facility for melody
and his ability to present it aurally hides the fact that he's often shifting from one key to next
and doing so with great skill in chromaticism.

Here is a dissertation I've skimmed a few times on Wonder's harmonic sophistication:

AN EXPLORATION OF MELODY, HARMONY, AND IMPROVISATION IN THE MUSIC OF STEVIE WONDER

by

Jeff Lovell

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Reply #26 posted 05/30/17 2:34pm

RJOrion

214 said:

liljojo said:

I Prefer the greatest group of all time, better than Prince & his groups, better material, better writing, and larger catalogue.

Jesus & The 12 disciplines. All lyrics in RED, all instruments played by Christ, Produced by Child of God, and backing vocals done by the Trinity. After Judas signed with Hell Naw records, Jesus broke up the band.

http://zackhunt.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/jesusguitar2.jpg

But seriously I forfeit my vote as I've never listened to any Bowie albums completely So by default Stevie Wins for me.

lol lol What was their greatest hit?

"Proud Mary"

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Reply #27 posted 05/30/17 2:53pm

214

RJOrion said:

214 said:

lol lol What was their greatest hit?

"Proud Mary"

biggrin biggrin

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Reply #28 posted 05/30/17 2:53pm

214

Dasein said:

Neversin said:

Bowie by far... Stevie hasn't done anything close to the musical experimentation Bowie did... Plus Stevie's music doesn't challenge a listener, it's nice but forgettable to me... Bowie's 1970's output went far beyond the borders of known music and created a new landscape like Prince did in the 1980's... Neversin.


I don't think I can disagree with a post any more than I disagree with this one.

Stevie Wonder's musical compositions features a harmonic sophistication that doesn't have too
many peers. The reason why you don't perceive his music as being a challenging listen could
be due to several things but I think a explanative possibility could rest in his facility for melody
and his ability to present it aurally hides the fact that he's often shifting from one key to next
and doing so with great skill in chromaticism.

Here is a dissertation I've skimmed a few times on Wonder's harmonic sophistication:

AN EXPLORATION OF MELODY, HARMONY, AND IMPROVISATION IN THE MUSIC OF STEVIE WONDER

by

Jeff Lovell

Thanks you so much, although i don't think i'll be able to understand half of that.

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Reply #29 posted 05/30/17 6:36pm

robertgeorge

Bowie was my 2nd favorite artist and him and Prince (my number 1) have shaped my love of music.

That being said, I have huge respect for Stevie Wonder (singing, composing, studio and sonic invention, as well as the incredibly underrated warm drumming without even mentioning his keyboard wizardry)

This topic in taking into account the 70's the "golden years" of both artists is more or less who is better Bowie or Stevie? I consider Bowie at his peak an innovative and true album artist who had an ear and an eye for writing singles. Stevie made music that changed music for the better, and I love songs in the key of life, talking book and music of my mind. My confession is that I never loved fulfillingness first finale (sp?) though it is designated one of his classics. I have a soft spot for the secret life of plants too.

So I have to go with my Mainman David Bowie, but definitely, cannot condone the honest but still harsh criticism of Stevie Wonder given by some posters. Stevie Wonder can snugly wear the sobriquet of genius.

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