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Shawy89

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Jackie Wilson APPRECIATION THREAD

I feel like this guy's influence on SO MANY performers over the decade isn't being acknowledged!

He's hands down the most criminally underrated performer of all time. confused

Now I know him and Elvis were peers at the time, people say Elvis was inspired by many of his moves, which is obvious... but Jackie just had SO MUCH soul!

People usually remember Little Richard, Elvis, Chuck, James Brown from that era, but the likes of Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson are rarely mentioned.

And that vocal range he had eek What an outstanding talent.

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Reply #1 posted 02/01/17 9:45am

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Reply #2 posted 02/01/17 11:34am

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Jackie was a superb talent and him and Sam definitely deserve their due. Sam Cooke on the Harlem square club live record really lets loose and he cements himself as a true soul singer on that record. Sam of course has the gospel background with The Soul stirrers and IIRC he was a member of the Highway QCs too unless I'm getting mixed up.

Jackie of course influenced Mike and MJ paid for Jackie Wilson to have a proper burial as unbelievably and sadly Jackie Wilson was buried in a paupers grave. A guy of his talent being treated that way is just...wow. But MJ always had major props for doing that for Jackie to me. I believe it's mentioned in either the bio about Jackie or in one of the Mike biographies. The records Jackie made later in his career are more soul music too like Higher and Higher and IIRC he recorded a version of Love Uprising. But really Sam, Jackie, Linda Jones and the other true unsung early soul singers they deserve major props for paving the way. Linda especially is very underrated. She's only really known for Hypnotized.

Edit also forgot to mention if I'm correct Elvis was a fan of Jackies and they were friends. Shame they never recorded together, IIRC there is footage of Jackie and Sam singing together.
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Reply #3 posted 02/01/17 11:44am

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So Underappreciated

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Sam Cooke is always mentioned, always.

Jackie not so much, because lets face it a lot of his music was cookie cutter. He was a great stage performer and possibly the best voice of his era. He had some great songs don't get me wrong but compared to his contemporaries his disography was lacking.
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Reply #5 posted 02/01/17 4:56pm

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I love these pic of Elvis and Jackie biggrin

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Reply #6 posted 02/01/17 5:02pm

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My fav performance biggrin worship

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Reply #7 posted 02/02/17 2:29pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Sam Cooke is always mentioned, always. Jackie not so much, because lets face it a lot of his music was cookie cutter. He was a great stage performer and possibly the best voice of his era. He had some great songs don't get me wrong but compared to his contemporaries his disography was lacking.

the fact that Sam Cooke was murdered under shady circumstances also gives strength to his ongoing legend... and in the 60's and 70's, artists like michael jackson and al green and stevie wonder and donny hathaway always mentioned Jackie Wilson as an influence, but over time, the general public does seem to have somewhat forgotten jackie wilson's contributions

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Reply #8 posted 02/02/17 2:47pm

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RJOrion said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:


Sam Cooke is always mentioned, always. Jackie not so much, because lets face it a lot of his music was cookie cutter. He was a great stage performer and possibly the best voice of his era. He had some great songs don't get me wrong but compared to his contemporaries his disography was lacking.



the fact that Sam Cooke was murdered under shady circumstances also gives strength to his ongoing legend... and in the 60's and 70's, artists like michael jackson and al green and stevie wonder and donny hathaway always mentioned Jackie Wilson as an influence, but over time, the general public does seem to have somewhat forgotten jackie wilson's contributions


Sam Cooke just made better music. I listen to both guys and have both in my collection. Wilson was a course an influence and a great not denying that.

Wilson is somewhat like the guy he replace in Billy Ward and the Dominos. There music was very pop oriented even though they were straight up rhythm and blues singrs.
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Reply #9 posted 02/03/17 11:02am

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Wasn't he a bit rape-y? He tried to rape Patti LaBelle.

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
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Reply #10 posted 02/04/17 4:16am

PeteSilas

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Wasn't he a bit rape-y? He tried to rape Patti LaBelle.

that was what she wrote in her book that he tried to rape her but she screamed. there is also a woman who claims to be a child of the rape of another woman. Jackie isn't alone, lots of men have issues with women, especially in those days.

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Wasn't he a bit rape-y? He tried to rape Patti LaBelle.


She said he was drunk and he grabbing on her. If you one of the autobiographies Jackie had mob managers who made his life a living hell. He became a drunk/drug addict I believe because the mob had control over him and the womanizing and illegitimate children were a by product of that industry.
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Reply #12 posted 02/04/17 8:52am

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Twinkletoes.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #13 posted 02/04/17 3:11pm

TrivialPursuit

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PeteSilas said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Wasn't he a bit rape-y? He tried to rape Patti LaBelle.

that was what she wrote in her book that he tried to rape her but she screamed. there is also a woman who claims to be a child of the rape of another woman. Jackie isn't alone, lots of men have issues with women, especially in those days.


Men didn't have issues with women. The women weren't the problem. Men had rape issues. Period.

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
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Reply #14 posted 02/04/17 3:43pm

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He was a great talent! Great performer and singer! He never gets his proper credit for the multiple generation of entertainers he influenced INCLUDING his biggest fan Elvis Presley.

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TrivialPursuit said:



PeteSilas said:




TrivialPursuit said:


Wasn't he a bit rape-y? He tried to rape Patti LaBelle.



that was what she wrote in her book that he tried to rape her but she screamed. there is also a woman who claims to be a child of the rape of another woman. Jackie isn't alone, lots of men have issues with women, especially in those days.




Men didn't have issues with women. The women weren't the problem. Men had rape issues. Period.


I think they meant it was the norm for singers back in the 50s-60s to act that way towards women.

Ike Turner
James Brown
David Ruffin
Chuck Berry
Gene Chandler
Bobby Womack
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Walter
Wilson Pickett

The list goes on.
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Reply #16 posted 02/04/17 6:26pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



PeteSilas said:




TrivialPursuit said:


Wasn't he a bit rape-y? He tried to rape Patti LaBelle.



that was what she wrote in her book that he tried to rape her but she screamed. there is also a woman who claims to be a child of the rape of another woman. Jackie isn't alone, lots of men have issues with women, especially in those days.




Men didn't have issues with women. The women weren't the problem. Men had rape issues. Period.


Go read some books
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