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Reply #390 posted 05/12/16 12:43pm

lowkey

PatrickS77 said:

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shortstuff45220 said:

it's called life things don't always happend when you plan them, how do you know they haven't been trying all this time, I doubt Janet woke up and decided to get pregnant , and Janet was seen as far back as 2011 and visitng fertility clinics and 2012 with fertility pills , maybe something finally worked.



Nope. Apparently she didn’t, but yet that didn’t stop her from scheduling and selling tickets for a tour she most likely full well knew, could be scrapped, because she was trying to get pregnant. I doubt that at almost 50 she just got pregnant by accident. Especially not since she supposedly was trying for some time (not sure if that is true though). What if that procedure in january had to do with her trying to get pregnant? If it was simply a throat operation, like what was suggested by media, why be so secretive about it? She could have just mentioned it, it’s nothing extraordinary for a singer, it falls in line with her job. But really it looks like she was trying to have the cake and eat it too. Trying to get pregnant, if that works, then just cancelling the tour and if it doesn‘t, just continuing on with the tour and the way it played out jerking around thousands of people, who made plans around her tour.

And really, not everyone has the luxury to see their favourite star in their hometown. Some do have to travel to make it happen. And since not everyone is a millionaire and things are cheaper if you book in advance, some do have to take the risk of getting stuck with nonrefundable costs by booking in advance. So really, don’t blame the fans.

I’m not saying that Janet was in an easy position. I do get that time is running out and if she really wants children, she should rather do it now than later, but to me, the whole way it was handled just looks amateurish at best and selfish at worst on her part. If your plan is to become pregnant, don’t schedule a tour for the same time.

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this may be true, but sometimes in life you have to be selfish. she made a life decision for herself, she asked for her fans understanding, alot of fans are over the tour and happy for her, for those that are still upset what is it she's suppose to do?

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Reply #391 posted 05/12/16 1:56pm

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To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.

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Reply #392 posted 05/12/16 2:00pm

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To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.

Well I dont see Tito or Jermaine about to give me tracks like Dammn Baby or Night and be swinging that hair and giving shade across the room and eyes for the cameras. This is why we give her some forgiveness

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Reply #393 posted 05/12/16 2:47pm

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mjscarousal said:

To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.


Had this been Mike his fans would have defended him the same way. As for the other Jacksons well you know....
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Reply #394 posted 05/12/16 2:50pm

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mjscarousal said:


To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.




Well I dont see Tito or Jermaine about to give me tracks like Dammn Baby or Night and be swinging that hair and giving shade across the room and eyes for the cameras. This is why we give her some forgiveness


We give her forgiveness because Janet has given us the best damn years of her life. She is putting herself and her family first now. And while I feel bad for the fans who didn't get to see her and spent their money I hope in time they will be able to forgive her.
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Reply #395 posted 05/12/16 3:17pm

mjscarousal

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mjscarousal said:

To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.

Had this been Mike his fans would have defended him the same way. As for the other Jacksons well you know....

This is definitly not true. Hunny best believe if I had paid expensive tickets to see MY favorite artist, MICHAEL JACKSON and he abruptly canceled with NO explanation???????

I would have been PISSED!!!!

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Reply #396 posted 05/12/16 3:56pm

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mjscarousal said:



BlackCat1985 said:


mjscarousal said:

To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.



Had this been Mike his fans would have defended him the same way. As for the other Jacksons well you know....


This is definitly not true. Hunny best believe if I had paid expensive tickets to see MY favorite artist, MICHAEL JACKSON and he abruptly canceled with NO explanation?????


I would have been PISSED!!!!


You would have been pissed but you would have forgiven him. I can tell you defend him so passionately.
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Reply #397 posted 05/12/16 4:04pm

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There's no way this tour is resuming in 2017. Not with a 50-year-old woman attempting to carry a child to term for (allegedly) the first time. Considering that she apparently wasn't quite in shape when the tour was launched the first time, she will not be in any condition to dance those routines by next year.

They've been joking about her being "a liar, a scammer" who loves robbery and fraud lol but this really was a scam and I don't see how she hasn't been raked over the coals for it. Did they actually give out refunds yet?

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Reply #398 posted 05/12/16 5:24pm

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There's no way this tour is resuming in 2017. Not with a 50-year-old woman attempting to carry a child to term for (allegedly) the first time. Considering that she apparently wasn't quite in shape when the tour was launched the first time, she will not be in any condition to dance those routines by next year.



They've been joking about her being "a liar, a scammer" who loves robbery and fraud lol but this really was a scam and I don't see how she hasn't been raked over the coals for it. Did they actually give out refunds yet?


How was she a lair and scammer? It's not like Janet got paid with the money fans paid for tickets. Refunds have been available for weeks now. And yes she has been raked over the coals mainly by people like yourself. Janet will be fine. Life goes on.
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Reply #399 posted 05/12/16 7:16pm

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Yes there was the option of a refund or waiting till next year. I went with the refund
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Reply #400 posted 05/13/16 9:51am

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mjscarousal said:

To many excuses are given to Janet when she is wrong. If this has been any other Jackson they would have gotten horribly bashed. Its only her fans I see giving her excuses the general public was piss at the way she handled the cancellations. Welp, wishing her the best in what ever she decided to do. I personally think she is going to retire from showbusiness. She has nothing to prove anyway.

well the other jacksons are men and can have babies anytime they want with no scrutiny. you are saying a woman is wrong for deciding to have a child? and she has been horribly bashed, i mean what more bashing can people do to her that hasnt already been done.

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Reply #401 posted 05/13/16 9:57am

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mjscarousal said:

BlackCat1985 said:

mjscarousal said: Had this been Mike his fans would have defended him the same way. As for the other Jacksons well you know....

This is definitly not true. Hunny best believe if I had paid expensive tickets to see MY favorite artist, MICHAEL JACKSON and he abruptly canceled with NO explanation???????

I would have been PISSED!!!!

she did give an explanation, she personally addressed her fans and wanted us to be the first to know, she appologized, thanked everybody and asked for understanding...if some people are still upset they will eventually have to get over it because it is what it is. were you upset when mj had to leave his tour and check into rehab?

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Reply #402 posted 05/13/16 2:30pm

mjscarousal

lowkey said:

mjscarousal said:

This is definitly not true. Hunny best believe if I had paid expensive tickets to see MY favorite artist, MICHAEL JACKSON and he abruptly canceled with NO explanation???????

I would have been PISSED!!!!

she did give an explanation, she personally addressed her fans and wanted us to be the first to know, she appologized, thanked everybody and asked for understanding...if some people are still upset they will eventually have to get over it because it is what it is. were you upset when mj had to leave his tour and check into rehab?

Your right, people will get over it and the next time Janet decides to tour again those same people won't buy tickets because she has destroyed her reputation in being a professional touring act. This isn't the first time she has canceled a tour over mysterious and unexplained circumstances. The way she handled the cancellations was unprofessional, period. If she was pregnant she should have released a statement, stating she would cancel the entire tour instead of just performing in Dubai, that looks triflin as hell and then she expects everyone to believe she is pregnant after performing Dubai? C'mon. People have every right to speculate after she waited so long to give an explanation. She didnt even give a explanation to her European fans and instead tweeted out song lyrics. I am sorry there are no excuses for her unprofessional and selfish behavior and taking jabs at Michael is not going to change that. Say what you want but Michael was a professional. He wouldnt plan a family in the middle of a tour.

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Reply #403 posted 05/13/16 3:45pm

SoulAlive

off topic,but....has Janet said anything about Prince's death? I know she was a big fan.She actually wanted Prince to sing with her on "Love Will Never Do (Without You)".
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Reply #404 posted 05/13/16 5:34pm

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mjscarousal said:

lowkey said:

she did give an explanation, she personally addressed her fans and wanted us to be the first to know, she appologized, thanked everybody and asked for understanding...if some people are still upset they will eventually have to get over it because it is what it is. were you upset when mj had to leave his tour and check into rehab?

Your right, people will get over it and the next time Janet decides to tour again those same people won't buy tickets because she has destroyed her reputation in being a professional touring act. This isn't the first time she has canceled a tour over mysterious and unexplained circumstances. The way she handled the cancellations was unprofessional, period. If she was pregnant she should have released a statement, stating she would cancel the entire tour instead of just performing in Dubai, that looks triflin as hell and then she expects everyone to believe she is pregnant after performing Dubai? C'mon. People have every right to speculate after she waited so long to give an explanation. She didnt even give a explanation to her European fans and instead tweeted out song lyrics. I am sorry there are no excuses for her unprofessional and selfish behavior and taking jabs at Michael is not going to change that. Say what you want but Michael was a professional. He wouldnt plan a family in the middle of a tour.

well if they dont buy tickets they dont buy them. im confused, wasnt peoiple saying her tour wasnt selling too good, but now all of a sudden everybody had tickets? at the end of the day her child will impact her life a hell of alot more than a tour. so im taking jabs at michael because i asked a question about him cancelling a tour? its ok for you to continue to trash janet but you get emotional if mike's name is mentioned. you dont think her fans should forgive her for a tour but you have forgiven and supported mike for much more extreme circumstances.

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Reply #405 posted 05/13/16 6:00pm

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lowkey said:

mjscarousal said:

Your right, people will get over it and the next time Janet decides to tour again those same people won't buy tickets because she has destroyed her reputation in being a professional touring act. This isn't the first time she has canceled a tour over mysterious and unexplained circumstances. The way she handled the cancellations was unprofessional, period. If she was pregnant she should have released a statement, stating she would cancel the entire tour instead of just performing in Dubai, that looks triflin as hell and then she expects everyone to believe she is pregnant after performing Dubai? C'mon. People have every right to speculate after she waited so long to give an explanation. She didnt even give a explanation to her European fans and instead tweeted out song lyrics. I am sorry there are no excuses for her unprofessional and selfish behavior and taking jabs at Michael is not going to change that. Say what you want but Michael was a professional. He wouldnt plan a family in the middle of a tour.

well if they dont buy tickets they dont buy them. im confused, wasnt peoiple saying her tour wasnt selling too good, but now all of a sudden everybody had tickets? at the end of the day her child will impact her life a hell of alot more than a tour. so im taking jabs at michael because i asked a question about him cancelling a tour? its ok for you to continue to trash janet but you get emotional if mike's name is mentioned. you dont think her fans should forgive her for a tour but you have forgiven and supported mike for much more extreme circumstances.

I don't know why you Janet stans get so defensive. confused I have all of Janets albums and defend her when people trash her but I also criticize her when she is wrong too. MJ has nothing to do with this so its triflin you would bring him up in classless way and its not just people here who had a problem with Janet got bashed horribly on social media for the way she handled the cancellations. It was unprofessional, period.

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Reply #406 posted 05/13/16 9:16pm

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kingcheetah said:

There's no way this tour is resuming in 2017. Not with a 50-year-old woman attempting to carry a child to term for (allegedly) the first time. Considering that she apparently wasn't quite in shape when the tour was launched the first time, she will not be in any condition to dance those routines by next year.

They've been joking about her being "a liar, a scammer" who loves robbery and fraud lol but this really was a scam and I don't see how she hasn't been raked over the coals for it. Did they actually give out refunds yet?

How was she a lair and scammer? It's not like Janet got paid with the money fans paid for tickets. Refunds have been available for weeks now. And yes she has been raked over the coals mainly by people like yourself. Janet will be fine. Life goes on.

Girl I said "joking". And she sure is holding onto them coins for over a year. She should've just cancelled. You know how irritatting the process of requesting a refund is?

She needs the headlines dragging her like anyone else would get. Maybe that would get her to either complete a tour for the first time in nearly TWO DECADES, or stop fucking with folks.

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Reply #407 posted 05/14/16 5:07am

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BlackCat1985 said:


kingcheetah said:

There's no way this tour is resuming in 2017. Not with a 50-year-old woman attempting to carry a child to term for (allegedly) the first time. Considering that she apparently wasn't quite in shape when the tour was launched the first time, she will not be in any condition to dance those routines by next year.



They've been joking about her being "a liar, a scammer" who loves robbery and fraud lol but this really was a scam and I don't see how she hasn't been raked over the coals for it. Did they actually give out refunds yet?



How was she a lair and scammer? It's not like Janet got paid with the money fans paid for tickets. Refunds have been available for weeks now. And yes she has been raked over the coals mainly by people like yourself. Janet will be fine. Life goes on.


Girl I said "joking". And she sure is holding onto them coins for over a year. She should've just cancelled. You know how irritatting the process of requesting a refund is?



She needs the headlines dragging her like anyone else would get. Maybe that would get her to either complete a tour for the first time in nearly TWO DECADES, or stop fucking with folks.


The last tour Janet completed was in 2011-2012. So no it hasn't been 2 decades. But than again I wouldn't expect you to know that because you only want to run with the negativity. I agree that she should go ahead and cancel the rest because there's no way in hell she is going to want to tour after having a baby that soon after. I think she was trying to let the fans down easy.
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Reply #408 posted 05/14/16 5:18pm

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off topic,but....has Janet said anything about Prince's death? I know she was a big fan.She actually wanted Prince to sing with her on "Love Will Never Do (Without You)".

In a weird way she is tooo close to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to publicly grieve. Prince also called Michael "Genius" and Janet "Genius's sister".

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Reply #409 posted 05/14/16 6:07pm

kingcheetah

BlackCat1985 said:

kingcheetah said:

Girl I said "joking". And she sure is holding onto them coins for over a year. She should've just cancelled. You know how irritatting the process of requesting a refund is?

She needs the headlines dragging her like anyone else would get. Maybe that would get her to either complete a tour for the first time in nearly TWO DECADES, or stop fucking with folks.

The last tour Janet completed was in 2011-2012. So no it hasn't been 2 decades. But than again I wouldn't expect you to know that because you only want to run with the negativity. I agree that she should go ahead and cancel the rest because there's no way in hell she is going to want to tour after having a baby that soon after. I think she was trying to let the fans down easy.

I did forget about that tour (as did most people). But still. ONE tour that she's completed in 18 years. Not counting the ones that never came to be in the first place.

I don't know why she didn't. Likely because it's just embarrassing to call something a WORLD tour and then have it never make it off one continent. But it's also embarrassing to postpone more dates than you actually perform so...

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Reply #410 posted 05/21/16 10:33am

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[Edited 4/17/16 15:40pm]



i was just watching this again since youtube suggested i'd do so lol

anywho, after that it went to this one:



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Reply #411 posted 05/21/16 11:54am

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oh wow! biggrin LMAO

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