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Reply #120 posted 09/07/14 10:11pm

mjscarousal

I never understood why for some reason when it comes to Beyonce people can never have an unpopular opinion about her, like she is so above criticism. Its okay to constructively criticize Michael. Its okay to trash Janet. Its okay to criticize Madonna. Its okay to criticize Prince and any other singer but its never okay to critcize Beyonce. eek I don't think stans or opposing posters have a right to dictate what others say on message boards. Since when do you have to be a fan to comment in a thread about a singer? Whether someone says the same opinion 50 times or says different opinions in 40 different ways people can say whatever the hell they want. Its a public forum, people can comment on any thread they want. You can like her and stan for her.... but if other's don't they are entitled to express their opinion also. I am tired of this unfair double standard when it comes to her. There is no right or wrong or even a facts presented in this thread. These are all opinions which everyone is entitled to whether you like them or not. neutral

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Reply #121 posted 09/07/14 10:15pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:

I never understood why for some reason when it comes to Beyonce people can never have an unpopular opinion about her, like she is so above criticism. Its okay to constructively criticize Michael. Its okay to trash Janet. Its okay to criticize Madonna. Its okay to criticize Prince and any other singer but its never okay to critcize Beyonce. eek I don't think stans or opposing posters have a right to dictate what others say on message boards. Since when do you have to be a fan to comment in a thread about a singer? Whether someone says the same opinion 50 times or says different opinions in 40 different ways people can say whatever the hell they want. Its a public forum, people can comment on any thread they want. You can like her and stan for her.... but if other's don't they are entitled to express their opinion also. I am tired of this unfair double standard when it comes to her. There is no right or wrong or even a facts presented in this thread. These are all opinions which everyone is entitled to whether you like them or not. neutral

I remember how people used to run mega celebs through the mud but now, as you said, she's ABOVE criticism which to me is highly indicative of how her (evil) PR machine operates. If you can't say anything bad about someone for fear of her "fans" which I think are also comprised of people on their payroll that know which sites are the most popular, then something is very, VERY wrong with that picture. People used to comment all the time about her bad hygiene, lying about her age, fake hair/real hair and the fake baby/pregnancy situation but now all of a sudden that chatter has up and vanished and now what? She's Jesus to some people and I think that's really unhealthy and a big indicator of just how much of a phony she is. If you can't say anything bad or critical about someone that tells me exactly what they are about from the door. All hail, oh nevermind before I attract death threats or whatever...

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Reply #122 posted 09/07/14 10:15pm

NaughtyKitty

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mjscarousal said:

I never understood why for some reason when it comes to Beyonce people can never have an unpopular opinion about her, like she is so above criticism. Its okay to constructively criticize Michael. Its okay to trash Janet. Its okay to criticize Madonna. Its okay to criticize Prince and any other singer but its never okay to critcize Beyonce. eek I don't think stans or opposing posters have a right to dictate what others say on message boards. Since when do you have to be a fan to comment in a thread about a singer? Whether someone says the same opinion 50 times or says different opinions in 40 different ways people can say whatever the hell they want. Its a public forum, people can comment on any thread they want. You can like her and stan for her.... but if other's don't they are entitled to express their opinion also. I am tired of this unfair double standard when it comes to her. There is no right or wrong or even a facts presented in this thread. These are all opinions which everyone is entitled to whether you like them or not. neutral

ALL OF THIS X1000! Beyonce is not above criticism, I think she does get her fair share here its just that her stans aint having it and are very vocal about defending their queen cuz you know, we all supposed to "bow down" to her and acknowledge she's the musical messiah of this generation neutral

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Reply #123 posted 09/07/14 10:27pm

NaughtyKitty

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SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

I never understood why for some reason when it comes to Beyonce people can never have an unpopular opinion about her, like she is so above criticism. Its okay to constructively criticize Michael. Its okay to trash Janet. Its okay to criticize Madonna. Its okay to criticize Prince and any other singer but its never okay to critcize Beyonce. eek I don't think stans or opposing posters have a right to dictate what others say on message boards. Since when do you have to be a fan to comment in a thread about a singer? Whether someone says the same opinion 50 times or says different opinions in 40 different ways people can say whatever the hell they want. Its a public forum, people can comment on any thread they want. You can like her and stan for her.... but if other's don't they are entitled to express their opinion also. I am tired of this unfair double standard when it comes to her. There is no right or wrong or even a facts presented in this thread. These are all opinions which everyone is entitled to whether you like them or not. neutral

I remember how people used to run mega celebs through the mud but now, as you said, she's ABOVE criticism which to me is highly indicative of how her (evil) PR machine operates. If you can't say anything bad about someone for fear of her "fans" which I think are also comprised of people on their payroll that know which sites are the most popular, then something is very, VERY wrong with that picture. People used to comment all the time about her bad hygiene, lying about her age, fake hair/real hair and the fake baby/pregnancy situation but now all of a sudden that chatter has up and vanished and now what? She's Jesus to some people and I think that's really unhealthy and a big indicator of just how much of a phony she is. If you can't say anything bad or critical about someone that tells me exactly what they are about from the door. All hail, oh nevermind before I attract death threats or whatever...

ITA. Remember when she did the Super Bowl and those unflattering pics of her crazy facial expressions were posted online?
Sorry, Beyonce. You have become extremely overrated.

Her publicist was demanding for all unflattering photos of her to be removed from the internet! lol


Beyonce and the media payola industry


Sorry, Beyonce. You have become extremely overrated.

First of all, let me get this straight: I am not a Beyonce hater. I think that she is, perhaps, the best pop star of the past ten years. But she is not the best and biggest pop star since Michael Jackson, as Ryan Seacrest and others on KIIS FM keep telling us.

Beyonce is not God. She hasn’t surpassed Janet Jackson. She hasn’t surpassed Mariah Carey. In no way has she passed Madonna. I would say that she hasn’t even surpassed Britney Spears. But don’t tell the entertainment media that. Forget Lady Gaga; Beyonce has become the poster girl for media payola.

According to most media sites, Beyonce’s performance at the MTV VMAs was historic. It changed the course of history. Elvis Presley, the Beatles, and Michael Jackson are no longer relevant after Beyonce’s performance. But comments from people on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram were mostly mixed. Why is there such a difference between media reviews and what the general public thinks? One symbol will give you the answer: $


This weekend, I learned that Beyonce’s PR team paid a Huffington Post lead entertainment writer and editor to write nothing but positive headlines about her in early 2013. He was given a salary of $10,000 and given exclusives to new information about Beyonce. To the Huffington Post’s credit, that writer/editor was fired. But their over-the-top positive headlines about Beyonce still continue.

I also learned that Beyonce’s PR team has tried to bully some writers who happened to not like Beyonce with litigation. That silences a lot of writers, but it won’t silent me. Beyonce has become so overrated that it’s become difficult to appreciate her as an artist. Anybody who calls themselves a feminist before declaring “Bow down, Bitches!” is spreading a dangerous message.

According to many inside sources, the Grammys will be rigged this year to make Beyonce the big winner. Let’s hope that happens. Multiple Grammy wins lead to the career downfall curse. Hello, Alanis Morisette!


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OT: What were ppl saying about her hygiene?

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Reply #124 posted 09/08/14 11:27am

HAPPYPERSON

Does her PR team ever sleep? lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw8jT_UIQAA3UY5.jpg

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Reply #125 posted 09/08/14 12:23pm

SeventeenDayze

NaughtyKitty said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I remember how people used to run mega celebs through the mud but now, as you said, she's ABOVE criticism which to me is highly indicative of how her (evil) PR machine operates. If you can't say anything bad about someone for fear of her "fans" which I think are also comprised of people on their payroll that know which sites are the most popular, then something is very, VERY wrong with that picture. People used to comment all the time about her bad hygiene, lying about her age, fake hair/real hair and the fake baby/pregnancy situation but now all of a sudden that chatter has up and vanished and now what? She's Jesus to some people and I think that's really unhealthy and a big indicator of just how much of a phony she is. If you can't say anything bad or critical about someone that tells me exactly what they are about from the door. All hail, oh nevermind before I attract death threats or whatever...

ITA. Remember when she did the Super Bowl and those unflattering pics of her crazy facial expressions were posted online?
Sorry, Beyonce. You have become extremely overrated.

Her publicist was demanding for all unflattering photos of her to be removed from the internet! lol


Beyonce and the media payola industry


Sorry, Beyonce. You have become extremely overrated.

First of all, let me get this straight: I am not a Beyonce hater. I think that she is, perhaps, the best pop star of the past ten years. But she is not the best and biggest pop star since Michael Jackson, as Ryan Seacrest and others on KIIS FM keep telling us.

Beyonce is not God. She hasn’t surpassed Janet Jackson. She hasn’t surpassed Mariah Carey. In no way has she passed Madonna. I would say that she hasn’t even surpassed Britney Spears. But don’t tell the entertainment media that. Forget Lady Gaga; Beyonce has become the poster girl for media payola.

According to most media sites, Beyonce’s performance at the MTV VMAs was historic. It changed the course of history. Elvis Presley, the Beatles, and Michael Jackson are no longer relevant after Beyonce’s performance. But comments from people on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram were mostly mixed. Why is there such a difference between media reviews and what the general public thinks? One symbol will give you the answer: $


This weekend, I learned that Beyonce’s PR team paid a Huffington Post lead entertainment writer and editor to write nothing but positive headlines about her in early 2013. He was given a salary of $10,000 and given exclusives to new information about Beyonce. To the Huffington Post’s credit, that writer/editor was fired. But their over-the-top positive headlines about Beyonce still continue.

I also learned that Beyonce’s PR team has tried to bully some writers who happened to not like Beyonce with litigation. That silences a lot of writers, but it won’t silent me. Beyonce has become so overrated that it’s become difficult to appreciate her as an artist. Anybody who calls themselves a feminist before declaring “Bow down, Bitches!” is spreading a dangerous message.

According to many inside sources, the Grammys will be rigged this year to make Beyonce the big winner. Let’s hope that happens. Multiple Grammy wins lead to the career downfall curse. Hello, Alanis Morisette!


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OT: What were ppl saying about her hygiene?

This is what I was saying all along, and Naughty Kitty and others too. This chick pays for her accolades and this writer is brave to call their camp out on this.

As far as her hygiene goes, let's just say she's earned a reputation for being "not so fresh"....google it so that I don't have to face the wrath of the 3 stans that are on this site smile

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Reply #126 posted 09/08/14 12:24pm

SeventeenDayze

HAPPYPERSON said:

Does her PR team ever sleep? lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw8jT_UIQAA3UY5.jpg

This is sacrelige!!!!!!! Who the hell is comparing MICK JAGGER to this broad? Man, I'm done for! LOL! This is the absolute biggest example of stupidity in the industry that someone can possibly come up with. I'm speechless! LOL!

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Reply #127 posted 09/08/14 12:30pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Oh please are you serious? Your opinion is just that--you OPINION, your subjective point of view which is hardly based on facts lol You've got it totally backwards here--Beyonce is not marketed ad nauseum because she "already is a legend." With that kind of logic then that must mean Kim Kardashian is a legend too (after all she's marketed ad nause. and just graced the cover of GQ magazine--she can make covers like Beyonce too!) rolleyes

Beyonce is marketed ad nausesum because she pays for her publicity and hype machine to make ppl think she is this larger than life "legend" and reading the comments here I see ppl have unfortunately bought into her hype. Look, just because she made the cover of Time magazine doesnt make her a legend. I'm sure there were favor$ exchanged and deal$ made to buy her cover get her put on the cover. So in my book, no, she is not a legend because she hasnt dont anything legendary that will stand the test of time. That is my opinion but go ahead and disagree with it.

Well said, Naughty Kitty! That's exactly how I feel. If you pay someone long enough and for a large amount of money, they'll say anything about you. Her whole fame seems contrived to me. Less than organic. I think the fact that should couldn't be bothered with having a display in the RR Hall of Fame with her contemporaries spoke volumes of how delusional she is. She just HAD to be in the same area with David Bowie and MJ, like WHAT? Seriously. She's in love with herself and her camp knows how to market her a certain way. I swear I can't pick up a magazine, read a blog, or whatever without seeing this broad's face everywhere. That's not due to her fame it's due to the fact that she pays for that exposure, which I've had more than enough of.

What happened?

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Reply #128 posted 09/08/14 12:33pm

SeventeenDayze

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Well said, Naughty Kitty! That's exactly how I feel. If you pay someone long enough and for a large amount of money, they'll say anything about you. Her whole fame seems contrived to me. Less than organic. I think the fact that should couldn't be bothered with having a display in the RR Hall of Fame with her contemporaries spoke volumes of how delusional she is. She just HAD to be in the same area with David Bowie and MJ, like WHAT? Seriously. She's in love with herself and her camp knows how to market her a certain way. I swear I can't pick up a magazine, read a blog, or whatever without seeing this broad's face everywhere. That's not due to her fame it's due to the fact that she pays for that exposure, which I've had more than enough of.

What happened?

The RR Hall of Fame decided to have like a display or something of today's top artists but her camp demanded, yes DEMANDED, that she not be placed in it but in the section with David Bowie and Michael Jackson because of her "musical impact".....such a load of garbage.

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Reply #129 posted 09/08/14 8:18pm

mjscarousal

SeventeenDayze said:

MotownSubdivision said:

What happened?

The RR Hall of Fame decided to have like a display or something of today's top artists but her camp demanded, yes DEMANDED, that she not be placed in it but in the section with David Bowie and Michael Jackson because of her "musical impact".....such a load of garbage.

It was beyond a load of garbage! confused

She definitly did not deserve to be placed in the same room as MJ, David Bowie, Aretha Franklin and Janis Joplin. eek What a load of bullsh!t. I couldn't believe the RHOF really placed her clothing in the same room as theirs. nuts NONE of her clothes are iconic and when people walk in that hall they are going to say the same thing. They are going to say WTF is Beyonce's basic clothes doing next to MJ's iconic clothes. The RHOF originally placed her with her comtemporaries (Rihanna, Bruno Mars, Katy Perry) so the Hall could be more modernized. The only reason why they moved her in the legend section was because she requested to be moved in that section and the Hall was dumb enough to move her. nuts RHOF is sh!t anyway. They always snub the old school black artists, I stand them

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Reply #130 posted 09/08/14 8:24pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:

SeventeenDayze said:

The RR Hall of Fame decided to have like a display or something of today's top artists but her camp demanded, yes DEMANDED, that she not be placed in it but in the section with David Bowie and Michael Jackson because of her "musical impact".....such a load of garbage.

It was beyond a load of garbage! confused

She definitly did not deserve to be placed in the same room as MJ, David Bowie, Aretha Franklin and Janis Joplin. eek What a load of bullsh!t. I couldn't believe the RHOF really placed her clothing in the same room as theirs. nuts NONE of her clothes are iconic and when people walk in that hall they are going to say the same thing. They are going to say WTF is Beyonce's basic clothes doing next to MJ's iconic clothes. The RHOF originally placed her with her comtemporaries (Rihanna, Bruno Mars, Katy Perry) so the Hall could be more modernized. The only reason why they moved her in the legend section was because she requested to be moved in that section and the Hall was dumb enough to move her. nuts RHOF is sh!t anyway. They always snub the old school black artists, I stand them

Hmmm, I didn't know the HOF was so shady but I'm not surprised. It's all about marketing I guess. I think the fact that they even moved her crap into that area with real rock legends is ridiculous. She's not even eligible for an award yet but she can't be bothered with being in the same league as her contemporaries. What a joke. This chick irks me more and more with each day or headline that passes. Overrated hack, MJ wanna be. MJ actually connected to people's souls because he KNEW what it was like to have struggle, pain, fear, doubt, etc. This dingbat Weaveonce looks like she hasn't sweat a day in her life, but has all those damn windmachines. Lemme stop because I get a death threat from her "fans".

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Reply #131 posted 09/08/14 8:34pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

MotownSubdivision said:

What happened?

The RR Hall of Fame decided to have like a display or something of today's top artists but her camp demanded, yes DEMANDED, that she not be placed in it but in the section with David Bowie and Michael Jackson because of her "musical impact".....such a load of garbage.

Yeah IIRC the R&R Hall of Fame was doing an exhibit on some of the hot stars of today like Bruno Mars mushy Lady Gaga, Rihanna, etc. But Beyonce wanted her exhibit to be included with MJ, David Bowie and other real legends instead of with her musical peers. rolleyes
And I see that her PR team strikes again with this "Beyonce is the New Rolling Stones" garbage disbelief Like, except for her Beyhive, who is gonna take that article seriously? lol All this hype is going to do the opposite and is going to turn her into a joke. The Beyonce Backlash has already begun.

As far as her hygiene goes, let's just say she's earned a reputation for being "not so fresh"....google it so that I don't have to face the wrath of the 3 stans that are on this site


Oh yes, I've heard the rumors about her hot dragon breath--its almost as "legendary" as she is razz

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Reply #132 posted 09/08/14 8:36pm

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HAPPYPERSON said:

Does her PR team ever sleep? lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw8jT_UIQAA3UY5.jpg

As long as she keeps writing them checks and they dont bounce--nah! lol

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Reply #133 posted 09/08/14 8:40pm

SeventeenDayze

NaughtyKitty said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah IIRC the R&R Hall of Fame was doing an exhibit on some of the hot stars of today like Bruno Mars mushy Lady Gaga, Rihanna, etc. But Beyonce wanted her exhibit to be included with MJ, David Bowie and other real legends instead of with her musical peers. rolleyes
And I see that her PR team strikes again with this "Beyonce is the New Rolling Stones" garbage disbelief Like, except for her Beyhive, who is gonna take that article seriously? lol All this hype is going to do the opposite and is going to turn her into a joke. The Beyonce Backlash has already begun.

As far as her hygiene goes, let's just say she's earned a reputation for being "not so fresh"....google it so that I don't have to face the wrath of the 3 stans that are on this site


Oh yes, I've heard the rumors about her hot dragon breath--its almost as "legendary" as she is razz

Do you know if they have any tea about her hygiene on LA? I need to see if I can find some entertaining links about it smile

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Reply #134 posted 09/08/14 8:45pm

mjscarousal

NaughtyKitty said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

Does her PR team ever sleep? lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw8jT_UIQAA3UY5.jpg

As long as she keeps writing them checks and they dont bounce--nah! lol

LOL! yall a mess! lol

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Reply #135 posted 09/08/14 9:21pm

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Meh.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #136 posted 09/08/14 9:23pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

As long as she keeps writing them checks and they dont bounce--nah! lol

LOL! yall a mess! lol

They should note that her skin tone is now the same as Mick Jagger's but find a pic of her from 1998 and you'll see she looked like any other random black girl. What a joke. But, the media is paid NOT to say anything bad. Everything they do is fake and I think that elevator fight and the baby hair petition were ways to keep their name in the media the entire summer while they are on tour but stupid sheeple can't figure that stuff out to get out of a paper bag.

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Reply #137 posted 09/08/14 9:41pm

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mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

As long as she keeps writing them checks and they dont bounce--nah! lol

LOL! yall a mess! lol

lol


@SeventeenDayze:

I havent come across any over there but I'm sure there are some there. wink

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Reply #138 posted 09/08/14 10:17pm

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Like it or not, she's a legend, so bow down, oh nevermind biggrin

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Reply #139 posted 09/09/14 5:15am

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A legend of what exactly? lol All jokes aside, I see Beyonce as the same way that I see Madonna (though Madonna is a notch above since she's always had the strong ability to be risk taking in her brand), extremely popular for her time, but a legend? Naw.

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Reply #140 posted 09/09/14 6:31am

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Is that really true about the rock and roll hall of fame? It does sound egotistical though I sort of get why she did it. She has been around longer than Rihanna, Bruno and Gaga, almost 20 years and was advocating for herself. I love her and her work but she needs to just let the music and work speak for itself and earn those recognitions, letting people make up their mind instead of shoving it even if she is good. Artist of the Milennium award was a good example of what I'm saying. I already loved her and thought she deserved a big award, but not that one. The 4 album wasn't even out yet, there was no surprise album yet with all videos and broken records yet, it was too early and I was turned off from even giving 4 a chance as a whole album though getting it 2 years later, I really loved it and still play it on heavy rotation.

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Reply #141 posted 09/09/14 9:33am

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SeventeenDayze said:

MotownSubdivision said:

What happened?

The RR Hall of Fame decided to have like a display or something of today's top artists but her camp demanded, yes DEMANDED, that she not be placed in it but in the section with David Bowie and Michael Jackson because of her "musical impact".....such a load of garbage.

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Kind of reminds me of that old Ebony or Essence shoot (I think, it was years ago) where she demanded that she be the centerpiece of the covershot featuring her, Mary J. Blige and Janet Jackson. Yep, even someone from Ebony or Essence confirmed the little squabble. Needless to say, she didn't get her wish that time.

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Reply #142 posted 09/09/14 9:37am

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Musicslave said:

SeventeenDayze said:

The RR Hall of Fame decided to have like a display or something of today's top artists but her camp demanded, yes DEMANDED, that she not be placed in it but in the section with David Bowie and Michael Jackson because of her "musical impact".....such a load of garbage.

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Kind of reminds me of that old Ebony or Essence shoot (I think, it was years ago) where she demanded that she be the centerpiece of the covershot featuring her, Mary J. Blige and Janet Jackson. Yep, even someone from Ebony or Essence confirmed the little squabble. Needless to say, she didn't get her wish that time.

She was winning every award that era, that should have been enough to have been thankful for. Just the fact she got to pose with j and mary should have been rewarding enough if you ask me. Who confirmed it?

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Reply #143 posted 09/09/14 9:50am

Musicslave

HAPPYPERSON said:

Does her PR team ever sleep? lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw8jT_UIQAA3UY5.jpg

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And people want to wonder why she and her team can be annoying lol Don't know if its real or not but, this is a good example of why some are turned off from the manufactured hype surrounding her career.

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Reply #144 posted 09/09/14 11:28am

Musicslave

alphastreet said:

Musicslave said:

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Kind of reminds me of that old Ebony or Essence shoot (I think, it was years ago) where she demanded that she be the centerpiece of the covershot featuring her, Mary J. Blige and Janet Jackson. Yep, even someone from Ebony or Essence confirmed the little squabble. Needless to say, she didn't get her wish that time.

She was winning every award that era, that should have been enough to have been thankful for. Just the fact she got to pose with j and mary should have been rewarding enough if you ask me. Who confirmed it?

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I'll have to look it up for you. This was years ago but I think it was either the photographer of the shoot or somone with enough authority to politely turn her down and kept the photoshoot moving. I remember reading it so, it may not be to hard to find. Google is my friend wink

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Reply #145 posted 09/09/14 11:49am

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alphastreet said:

Musicslave said:

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Kind of reminds me of that old Ebony or Essence shoot (I think, it was years ago) where she demanded that she be the centerpiece of the covershot featuring her, Mary J. Blige and Janet Jackson. Yep, even someone from Ebony or Essence confirmed the little squabble. Needless to say, she didn't get her wish that time.

She was winning every award that era, that should have been enough to have been thankful for. Just the fact she got to pose with j and mary should have been rewarding enough if you ask me. Who confirmed it?

[Edited 9/9/14 9:37am]

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Here's the old entertainment report (so take it with a grain of salt) but I can't find the confirmation from the editor, photographer or whomever it was that informed Beyonce's camp that it was already promised to Janet...

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Reply #146 posted 09/09/14 6:55pm

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Really the only act from the current generation I can see being deemed a "legend" is Eminem (i'm not even a big eminem fan) but he was the biggest selling artist of the 2000's, and is still very relevant in the industry today. His music videos in my oo
inion are great too, they have their own little unique style. and in my opinion, Bjork, Eminem, Daft Punk, and many others should have been a contender for the MJ Video Vanguard Award before Beyonce was ever even considered.)


Eminen???? Totally overhyped.He bit his style from SEVERAL Black rappers before him and one particular who weren't crowned by the industry and media as The Great Whiter Hope and declared a genius while tom many Black artists have been overlooked. It's the age old story and apparently it never gets old
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Reply #147 posted 09/09/14 7:08pm

SeventeenDayze

Orestespragmaticmaxim said:

dm3857 said:

Really the only act from the current generation I can see being deemed a "legend" is Eminem (i'm not even a big eminem fan) but he was the biggest selling artist of the 2000's, and is still very relevant in the industry today. His music videos in my oo inion are great too, they have their own little unique style. and in my opinion, Bjork, Eminem, Daft Punk, and many others should have been a contender for the MJ Video Vanguard Award before Beyonce was ever even considered.)

Eminen???? Totally overhyped.He bit his style from SEVERAL Black rappers before him and one particular who weren't crowned by the industry and media as The Great Whiter Hope and declared a genius while tom many Black artists have been overlooked. It's the age old story and apparently it never gets old

Agreed. I don't really listen to Eminmen but I have often wondered if he were black would he been seen as a "rap god" as many see him today. It's hard to tell if it's the classic case of cultural appropriation or if he actually is a decent rapper. According to Stevie Wonder, Eminmen is not all that and isn't Tupac.

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Reply #148 posted 09/09/14 7:24pm

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duccichucka said:



SeventeenDayze said:




duccichucka said:


She's already legendary.

The question is will she become an icon?

Legends are not worshipped. But icons are.



She's marketed ad nauseum but legendary? Not so much.




How much of your assessment is subjective versus objective? I don't like Beyonce.



I thiInk her voice is unpleasant. She can't dance (to my liking; she's no Janet Jackson).

so

And I think she's a moron; have you ever listened to her speak? She's inarticulate, a


telling sign, in my book, that she has not read much and ain't the sharpest knife in the


drawer.

But she's marketed ad nauseum because she's a legend already; that is an objective


fact of our reality, I'm afraid. She was on the cover of Time magazine, fer chrissakes.



So let's be real here, Dayze. The chick is a legend.



I are with just about everything you've stated.....but to insinuate that she's dumb just because she has a Texas drawl, or because maybe she has had different interests than you is k
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Reply #149 posted 09/09/14 7:25pm

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