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Thread started 09/03/20 8:09pm

emesem

Songs that inexplicably made it all the way through to SOTT

It

Slow Love

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Reply #1 posted 09/03/20 8:29pm

billymeade

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"It" is one of my favorite Prince songs. Something about the echo, the desperation in his voice... It just clicks. I'm a sucker for the songs that just sound like Prince alone in some empty room. This, "I Hear Your Voice", "The Word", "101", "Me Touch Myself", "She's Always in My Hair"... All have that same vibe
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Reply #2 posted 09/03/20 8:47pm

mbdtyler

Hot Thing
Slow Love
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

None of them are bad songs by any means, just not as interesting as some of the songs he left on th cutting room floor in 85-87

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Reply #3 posted 09/04/20 1:39am

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I've often said that when we hear the full amount of unreleased stuff from this era it makes SOTT pale in comparison. Really if the Dream Factory/Camille or Crystal Ball were released they would have been much better!

I always felt the SOTT album sounded rather dated as he was using all these effects that maybe were cool at the time but just sound old now and it seemed some were rushed, while other tracks recorded around this time had much more effort put in. Crucial, Adonis and Bathsheba and Inalargeroomwithnolight sound vibrant and fresh now and are much more complex musically than say It or It's gonna be a beautiful night.

Even for me the vocal run through of Forever In My Life sounds a lot more up to date that the original due to the lack of the repetitive sound effect in it.

[Edited 9/4/20 1:50am]

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Reply #4 posted 09/04/20 2:11am

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SOTT doesn't need to be changed.


TheFreakerFantastic said:

Even for me the vocal run through of Forever In My Life sounds a lot more up to date that the original due to the lack of the repetitive sound effect in it.

It sounds like a generic, fairly interchangable with many others, 80s radio hit to me - the released version still sticks out as something unique due to what you call "repetitive" and I call "sparseness."

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Reply #5 posted 09/04/20 2:23am

NouveauDance

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'It' is fantastic and is definately worthy of inclusion. Obviously he liked Slow Love too - I've never been crazy about it, I think there are better ballads, but it has a commercial sound about it and it's a solid pop song. If it wasn't Slow Love it probably would've been another ballad in its place.

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Reply #6 posted 09/04/20 2:51am

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After listening to the album a couple times this week, "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" is the only one I'm not completely thrilled with. A random live cut that runs just shy of 9 minutes seemed so out of place.

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Reply #7 posted 09/04/20 2:57am

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"It" is incredible, one of the best tracks on SOTT.

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Reply #8 posted 09/04/20 4:04am

jaawwnn

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I seriously don't think the album can be improved upon, it's a classic double album and it needs to ebb and flow to be that way. eg. IGBABN isn't the best song on the album, not by a long shot, but i'd say it's my most played - sometimes all I need is that groove for 10 minutes.

All the Crystal Ball tracks removed are 10/10 but I still think SOTT is a better album than the original Crystal Ball which has never fully worked for me. Maybe on vinyl it would.


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Reply #9 posted 09/04/20 5:57am

RJOrion

SOTT is perfect just the way it is

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Reply #10 posted 09/04/20 6:16am

LoveGalore

I think SOTT is perfect. I probably wouldn't miss Starfish and Coffee though. Especially if Blanche or Big Tall Wall or Train was in its place.
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Reply #11 posted 09/04/20 6:26am

Poplife88

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It is one of my fave Prince songs. Slow Love is gorgeous.

Sign o The Times is perfect the way it is. Period.

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Reply #12 posted 09/04/20 6:47am

RJOrion

Prince's vocal delivery on "IT" is monumental...when i first heard "Love & Sex" and heard Prince singing like his hair was on fire, it made me think of "IT".

"IT" and "Hot Thing" always seem to get bad reviews here, and i find that amazing.

"Slow Love" is a smooth joint... no need to skip or delete that one either...Eric Leeds is kickin ass all over that track

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Reply #13 posted 09/04/20 2:14pm

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mbdtyler said:

Hot Thing
Slow Love
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

None of them are bad songs by any means, just not as interesting as some of the songs he left on th cutting room floor in 85-87

Completely agree. Those 3 songs are like 4/5, the rest of the album 5. Although I oscillate on the demo-ish Forever In My Life.

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Reply #14 posted 09/04/20 2:39pm

jfenster

he always managed to put throwaways on all his albums since atwiad
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Reply #15 posted 09/05/20 10:57am

Shockedelicus

Going through SOTT, I don't really see anything I'd cut or replace. Maybe a couple songs are too long, but every track serves a purpose. I'm glad he released SOTT instead of Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball, but those tracks still deserved to be released on their own album. A DF/CB outtakes album would have been a better rushed followup than The Black Album, as much as I love that record.

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Reply #16 posted 09/05/20 11:38am

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mbdtyler said:

Hot Thing
Slow Love
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

None of them are bad songs by any means, just not as interesting as some of the songs he left on th cutting room floor in 85-87

Hot Thing?

You are crazy as Hell to think that should have been left off.

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Reply #17 posted 09/05/20 11:38am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

I've often said that when we hear the full amount of unreleased stuff from this era it makes SOTT pale in comparison. Really if the Dream Factory/Camille or Crystal Ball were released they would have been much better!

I always felt the SOTT album sounded rather dated as he was using all these effects that maybe were cool at the time but just sound old now and it seemed some were rushed, while other tracks recorded around this time had much more effort put in. Crucial, Adonis and Bathsheba and Inalargeroomwithnolight sound vibrant and fresh now and are much more complex musically than say It or It's gonna be a beautiful night.

Even for me the vocal run through of Forever In My Life sounds a lot more up to date that the original due to the lack of the repetitive sound effect in it.

[Edited 9/4/20 1:50am]

To me, the older more full version of "Forever in My Life" sounds completely retro, like a Kenny Rogers song. The final version still sounds futuristic today. That's not to say I don't enjoy hearing that older version.

If I were to add sound design to a scifi movie, and just take the music of the final version of "Forever in My Life", just that electronic rhythm/beat, and add it to some futuristic sequence... I think it would work!

I also love the way that beat sounded when he performed the song live on his tours around 2010-2012.


But in all honestly, when I first heard the album in 1987, I did not like "It" because it seemed to be simplistic and cliche in terms of musical arrangement in light of other dark electronic music going on at the time. I was much more into the title track, Housequake, or If I Was Your Girlfriend. I do like "it" better now, all these years later, but I still think the backbone beat and that bell-like synth line is really basic.

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Reply #18 posted 09/06/20 1:59am

dodger

djdaffy1227 said:

After listening to the album a couple times this week, "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" is the only one I'm not completely thrilled with. A random live cut that runs just shy of 9 minutes seemed so out of place.



Yes, it's always puzzled me why he put a random live song on there. Especially with all the quality tracks he had on the shelf.
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Reply #19 posted 09/06/20 7:34am

funkbabyandthe
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Every song has something good about it

It has a great vocal
Slow love is just lovely
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Reply #20 posted 09/06/20 7:37am

PRNelson

Slightly off topic but how good does 'It' sound as it blends into 'When doves cry on the 'Damn near 70 minutes mix'. Man alive!

Back on topic...
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Reply #21 posted 09/06/20 7:37am

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The man in the moon is smiling
He knows what I'm thinking of



How can anyone dislike that song???
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Reply #22 posted 09/06/20 8:17am

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That album is an epic journey, more than the sum of its parts, and I wouldn't change a thing. An album full of U Got the Looks and Adores (as good as those songs are) would not be a pleasant thing.

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Reply #23 posted 09/06/20 7:17pm

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I've never been a big fan of Slow Love, but IT is one of Prince's funkiest tracks. The drum pattern and the lyrics scream SEX! As he says "F*&King on your mind," IT doesn't get any sexier than that. Love IT. Beautiful Night is ok. I just have to be in the mood for it. SOTT is great the way it is, however, the best Prince song of all time(my personal favorite) Joy In Repetition, should have been on there.

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Reply #24 posted 09/07/20 3:41am

slyjackson

Shockadelica should have taken the place of Hot Thing.

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Reply #25 posted 09/07/20 3:50am

RJOrion

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

The man in the moon is smiling
He knows what I'm thinking of



How can anyone dislike that song???



for real !... either their speakers are broken, or theyre listening to it all wrong... ive never heard anyone hate on "Slow Love" until i read the org
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Reply #26 posted 09/07/20 6:54am

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When I was younger, and first exposed to "Sign", of course I gravitated towards the hits/singles. Songs like "Slow Love", "Forever In My Life", and "Strange Relationship" didn't do it for me like "Hot Thing" and "U Got The Look" and "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man".

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But after years of living with the album, I've come to appreciate every song. The entire song cycle has an ebb and flow that really rewards you if you listen from beginning to end.

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There's one tune, however, that I still have trouble with: "If I Was Your Girlfriend". I know there are many of you here on the Org who love this song, but it still doesn't quite click with me. Forget its unfortunate choice as the second single, the song itself is just... "off". That's the best way I can put it.

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I have skipped this song many, many times. Hell, at one point, when I digitized the album, I omitted it from my Prince playlist altogether! But I've (sort of) come around on it. I now let it be a part the listening experience.

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Maybe one day I'll get on board. Maybe.

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Reply #27 posted 09/07/20 9:49pm

slyjackson

GiggityGoo said:

When I was younger, and first exposed to "Sign", of course I gravitated towards the hits/singles. Songs like "Slow Love", "Forever In My Life", and "Strange Relationship" didn't do it for me like "Hot Thing" and "U Got The Look" and "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man".

.

But after years of living with the album, I've come to appreciate every song. The entire song cycle has an ebb and flow that really rewards you if you listen from beginning to end.

.

There's one tune, however, that I still have trouble with: "If I Was Your Girlfriend". I know there are many of you here on the Org who love this song, but it still doesn't quite click with me. Forget its unfortunate choice as the second single, the song itself is just... "off". That's the best way I can put it.

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I have skipped this song many, many times. Hell, at one point, when I digitized the album, I omitted it from my Prince playlist altogether! But I've (sort of) come around on it. I now let it be a part the listening experience.

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Maybe one day I'll get on board. Maybe.

eek eek

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Reply #28 posted 09/07/20 10:27pm

ForceofNature

I always thought it was confusing yet awesome that "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" made it on SOTT. It really is essentially just a big long funk jam in the key of D as opposed to a well thought out and carefully arranged composition (aside from the horn parts). But it strangely works, it is one of my favorites off the album and stands as a unique track off the album because of its live nature and composition

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Reply #29 posted 09/08/20 11:51am

emesem

As the OP, I just want to go on record and say I LOVE Its Gonna Be a Beautiful Night!

You are all crazy. At the time it was the ONLY (and perhaps still) track that somewhat captures the Prince "Live Jam" sound. The performance in the SOTT movie only makes it better in retrospect and where the hell else could you hear the Wizard of OZ chant and a children's poem put to funk https://www.poetryfoundat...-the-chair.

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