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Reply #60 posted 07/16/20 11:35am

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Just heard it on Spotify... Not a fan.

If you mean the 1987 version is better, i agree..no doubt. However, it so interesting to hear him do this 8 years befoe with that Dirty Mind/Rebels type sound. Super.

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Reply #61 posted 07/16/20 11:42am

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Wow!! This is nice.
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Reply #62 posted 07/16/20 11:50am

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Reply #63 posted 07/16/20 11:58am

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Definitely has a "Cars/New Wave" feel to it. This could have been on "D.M"...I dig it..I also like the out of phase Fender (or Hohner) raw guitar sound too.

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Reply #64 posted 07/16/20 12:00pm

RJOrion

Andre Cymone said even though he left after Dirty Mind, stuff he worked on with Prince ended up on lps as late as Sign Of The Times...i wonder if this is what he was talking about
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Reply #65 posted 07/16/20 12:34pm

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LoveGalore said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Note that the promo text does not mention a 1982 home recording and says "The track was retrieved from the vault in June 1986 and re-recorded". Theory: this 1979 version has been mistakenly dated to 1982 based on the sound.


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Michael Howe discussed this - that they initially thought it was from much later (aka 1982) but that it was on the same tape as ... Uh something else I forget.

Tape seen in PP Vault photos has I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man / U Should Be Mine / You Are My Love.
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Reply #66 posted 07/16/20 12:56pm

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Absolutely amazing to hear this and that it was almost 10 years old when officially released!! The 87 version is just so hopeless (it is one of my all time faves tho) but this one is optimistic. clapping

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Reply #67 posted 07/16/20 1:01pm

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Great! That is all. biggrin

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #68 posted 07/16/20 1:06pm

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bluegangsta said:

Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.

Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.

Okay people I think it is long overdue to stop focusing on the term "Frankenstein mixes", all due respect lol. Creating a brand new mix from the multitracks is not "Frankensteining" anything unless parts are flown in from other sources that were not that multitrack



Using a little more reverb than a given individual personally would like on a new mix is not "Frankensteining"

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Reply #69 posted 07/16/20 1:27pm

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I love it!!
My only complaint:
I hate fade-outs.
No debate why they do it, I understand.
But the estate should provide download-codes on every CD and Vinyl-Box for full versions for those who are interested IMO.
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Reply #70 posted 07/16/20 1:28pm

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Freaking awesome. I especially love clearly hearing those unusual chords at the end of the chorus! What a guy.
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Reply #71 posted 07/16/20 1:43pm

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Now, does the fact this was a 1979 song distract from the overall public perception that SOTT is one of the great albums of all time, or help to cement that belief? Personally I’m on the fence, as we all like to think he worked on the album within a given time frame like most artists (albeit with its evolution from DF), and the album in reality is just a grab bag of songs like a compilation if you will.
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Reply #72 posted 07/16/20 2:13pm

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yes yes flower bow
I Love it! The Sound is Great!
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Reply #73 posted 07/16/20 2:29pm

rusty1

Prince recorded most of Sign o'the Times, in 1986.
i think " Strange Relationship & ICNTTPOYM..
were the only ones not to be.
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Reply #74 posted 07/16/20 2:30pm

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Dandroppedadime said:

Now, does the fact this was a 1979 song distract from the overall public perception that SOTT is one of the great albums of all time, or help to cement that belief? Personally I’m on the fence, as we all like to think he worked on the album within a given time frame like most artists (albeit with its evolution from DF), and the album in reality is just a grab bag of songs like a compilation if you will.


It's all of a sudden a compilation because it includes a couple songs he couldn't find a spot that he wanted to put them until he'd redone them a few times?
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Reply #75 posted 07/16/20 2:50pm

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Dandroppedadime said:

Now, does the fact this was a 1979 song distract from the overall public perception that SOTT is one of the great albums of all time, or help to cement that belief? Personally I’m on the fence, as we all like to think he worked on the album within a given time frame like most artists (albeit with its evolution from DF), and the album in reality is just a grab bag of songs like a compilation if you will.



Not at all IMO. It shows that he was often very adept at holding onto a song until it made sense in the context of an album.

Likewise with "Strange Relationship", and "Bold Generation / New Power Generation".


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Reply #76 posted 07/16/20 2:52pm

delirious

I read somewhere a long time ago that this was considered for inclusion on Dirty Mind but was too similar to "When You Were Mine" so it was excluded. You can tell Prince really liked the song as he held on to it for a long time waiting for the right project...but WYWM was the preffered track at release time for Dirty Mind.

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Reply #77 posted 07/16/20 3:01pm

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LoveGalore said:

mushmackalenta said:

bluegangsta said: Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.

YOU'RE a Frankenstein mix.


falloff


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Reply #78 posted 07/16/20 3:12pm

CoolMF

Dope.

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Reply #79 posted 07/16/20 3:13pm

RJOrion

LoveGalore said:



mushmackalenta said:


bluegangsta said:

Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.



Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.


YOU'RE a Frankenstein mix.




clapping
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Reply #80 posted 07/16/20 3:13pm

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IstenSzek said:



LoveGalore said:




mushmackalenta said:


bluegangsta said: Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.


YOU'RE a Frankenstein mix.




falloff



Same when I saw it lol
Everybody share the prize...
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Reply #81 posted 07/16/20 3:19pm

Pellwormer

I just feel those good ole new wave vibe...like the album "Look sharp" by Joe Jackson

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Reply #82 posted 07/16/20 5:24pm

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Pellwormer said:

I just feel those good ole new wave vibe...like the album "Look sharp" by Joe Jackson




I’ve been digging that vibe recently. Dirty Mind / Controversy. BRING IT!
"I like to watch."
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Reply #83 posted 07/16/20 5:29pm

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I love it , a pity it fades out at the end though. Would loved to have heard a cracking guitar solo.

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Reply #84 posted 07/16/20 6:07pm

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Marco81 said:

LoveGalore said:
Michael Howe discussed this - that they initially thought it was from much later (aka 1982) but that it was on the same tape as ... Uh something else I forget.
Tape seen in PP Vault photos has I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man / U Should Be Mine / You Are My Love.



That would clearly place a version in 1982, based on the other two tracks. Whether it's this version is a whole different argument. I begs the question will it ever see the light of day if it didn't make the 1999 SDE or SOTT SDE.

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Reply #85 posted 07/16/20 6:39pm

Milty2

Just randomly came across this awesome cover by the Austin Ukelele Society. It's so goofy but great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_yZgHhMxw

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Reply #86 posted 07/16/20 7:10pm

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I just love the optimism of youth. She was damaged goods, but in 1979 he was willing to give it a try.

8 Years later, he parked her as a 'no go'. lol

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Reply #87 posted 07/16/20 7:20pm

Transformed1

"...but I'll try. I'll sure as hell try."

Amazing. That one line was pure gold to me. That made my week.

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Reply #88 posted 07/16/20 7:20pm

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That bass line note just before the chorus seems so wrong, but feels so right. Really suprised there was no guitar solo of any kind.

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Reply #89 posted 07/16/20 7:22pm

LoveGalore

SquirrelMeat said:



Marco81 said:


LoveGalore said:
Michael Howe discussed this - that they initially thought it was from much later (aka 1982) but that it was on the same tape as ... Uh something else I forget.

Tape seen in PP Vault photos has I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man / U Should Be Mine / You Are My Love.



That would clearly place a version in 1982, based on the other two tracks. Whether it's this version is a whole different argument. I begs the question will it ever see the light of day if it didn't make the 1999 SDE or SOTT SDE.



SDE: You’ve already mentioned that this is going to be a real revelation to virtually everyone. This was recorded in 1979. How much of a surprise was it to come across this?


MH: It was an enormous surprise. It was found very early in our excavation and digitisation process, but the rough mix we had was not dated and we assumed it was a little bit later than it actually was. But finally we found it on a two-inch multi-track tape which was dated May 1979, which kind of blew our minds. So it was a wonderful surprise and such a treat to be able to hear one of Prince’s best known songs in a completely different way.
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