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Reply #60 posted 05/29/20 3:09pm

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Strive said:



ForceofNature said:


So 8 disks - 2 of which will be the original album so 6 disks remaining. I am guessing at least 3 of those will be the total summation of Dream Factory/CB/Camille tracks so people can mix and match and make each of those albums as opposed to including each album seperate to reduce redundancy. Then maybe a live show and another disk of misc. tracks? Total speculation on my part of course, just trying to think of the most realistic best guess


Going off of 1999 Deluxe. I'm guessing.

Disc 1 & 2: Sign O' The Times Remastered


Disc 3: B-sides, extended mixes and remixes


Disc 4 & 5: From The Vault

After that, it's a crapshoot. I'm leaning towards

Disc 6: Camille (billed as a lost album in the PR for this release)


Disc 7 & 8: New Morning Aftershow from 15 June 1987 (a.m.) - Madhouse & Prince set



DVD: December 31 1987 show with Miles Davis. Audio only until the video starts. So the full performance for the first time.



New Morning Aftershow from 15 June 1987 (a.m.) - that would be a dream come true
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Reply #61 posted 05/29/20 3:41pm

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dave1dmarx said:



lust said:


2020 will be remembered as a great year!

In what universe? eek



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Reply #62 posted 05/29/20 4:12pm

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....

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Shame really, they should release it as a Blu-ray and offer options to switch between the various album configurations, e.g. Camille, Dream Factory, Crystal Ball,...

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And these releases should really come with a documentary à la Classic Albums.

THAT is an absolutely brilliant idea!

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Reply #63 posted 05/29/20 4:35pm

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Strive said:

ForceofNature said:

So 8 disks - 2 of which will be the original album so 6 disks remaining. I am guessing at least 3 of those will be the total summation of Dream Factory/CB/Camille tracks so people can mix and match and make each of those albums as opposed to including each album seperate to reduce redundancy. Then maybe a live show and another disk of misc. tracks? Total speculation on my part of course, just trying to think of the most realistic best guess


Going off of 1999 Deluxe. I'm guessing.

Disc 1 & 2: Sign O' The Times Remastered

Disc 3: B-sides, extended mixes and remixes

Disc 4 & 5: From The Vault

After that, it's a crapshoot. I'm leaning towards

Disc 6: Camille (billed as a lost album in the PR for this release)

Disc 7 & 8: New Morning Aftershow from 15 June 1987 (a.m.) - Madhouse & Prince set

DVD: December 31 1987 show with Miles Davis. Audio only until the video starts. So the full performance for the first time.

Given how much longer SOTT was in development for I'm guessing there'll be 3 discs of vault stuff...

CD 1&2 - The Remastered Album (and about time!)

CD 3 - Edits, B-sides, mixes etc

CD 4, 5 & 6 - Tha Vault

CD 7 & 8 - Something live. I wonder it there will be enough space to include a full concert in adddition to the First Avenue rehearsal show.

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Reply #64 posted 05/29/20 4:36pm

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Maybe the remaster can get Forever In My Life at the correct volume as the rest of album


If the original 2 inch tape is still around they could even include a version with the lead and backing vocals in their originally intended places. It would make for an interesting listen.

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Reply #65 posted 05/29/20 5:35pm

Strive

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Given how much longer SOTT was in development for I'm guessing there'll be 3 discs of vault stuff...


CD 1&2 - The Remastered Album (and about time!)


CD 3 - Edits, B-sides, mixes etc


CD 4, 5 & 6 - Tha Vault


CD 7 & 8 - Something live. I wonder it there will be enough space to include a full concert in adddition to the First Avenue rehearsal show.



It's certainly possible but I was trying to think like Warner. They're going to hold back a bit but what I posted on paper all has selling points that will resonate.

You have Prince's most critically acclaimed album, all the edits, 2 full discs of unreleased vault material, a lost album of Prince playing with his gender bender persona (blah with that description but that is how Howe will push it), a legendary aftershow that's never been available in soundboard and a live show with Miles Davis available in full for the first time.
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Reply #66 posted 05/29/20 5:46pm

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Strive said:

VaultCurator said:

Given how much longer SOTT was in development for I'm guessing there'll be 3 discs of vault stuff...

CD 1&2 - The Remastered Album (and about time!)

CD 3 - Edits, B-sides, mixes etc

CD 4, 5 & 6 - Tha Vault

CD 7 & 8 - Something live. I wonder it there will be enough space to include a full concert in adddition to the First Avenue rehearsal show.

It's certainly possible but I was trying to think like Warner. They're going to hold back a bit but what I posted on paper all has selling points that will resonate. You have Prince's most critically acclaimed album, all the edits, 2 full discs of unreleased vault material, a lost album of Prince playing with his gender bender persona (blah with that description but that is how Howe will push it), a legendary aftershow that's never been available in soundboard and a live show with Miles Davis available in full for the first time. [Edited 5/29/20 17:35pm]

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Camille isn't lost, all of the tracks except one have been released. (I really don't understand why they don't release Camille for RSD.)

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And they're not gonna release an aftershow, they're gonna release a regular show. On boot we have a combination of an incomplete Paris SBD recording combined with one track from the encore of a Dutch show SBD recording, so we know at least those two exist.

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NYE with Miles Davis? Possible, but if it is an incomplete video they might be hesitant.

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Reply #67 posted 05/29/20 5:47pm

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soladeo1 said:

Here are the possible 1986-1987 SIGN O THE TIMES Era songs that could be on the DELUXE version, excluding songs for other artists/sideprojects..


So nothing solid, still.

We gotta find out about this one way or the other.

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Reply #68 posted 05/29/20 6:17pm

Strive

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Camille isn't lost, all of the tracks except one have been released. (I really don't understand why they don't release Camille for RSD.)

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And they're not gonna release an aftershow, they're gonna release a regular show. On boot we have a combination of an incomplete Paris SBD recording combined with one track from the encore of a Dutch show SBD recording, so we know at least those two exist.

.

NYE with Miles Davis? Possible, but if it is an incomplete video they might be hesitant.


Most of SMiLE was released on Smiley Smiley and various Beach Boys projects but that didn't stop the record company and music press from billing it as a lost album.

And why not an aftershow? The DVD is (probably) going to be showing off a regular show. Having something like the New Morning show would showcase his jazzy side with Madhouse and some of the best of that era on the Prince side. While also being something that the hardcores know but don't have in the highest quality possible.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about them being hesitant but a clip of it appeared in that Miles Davis documentary and they probably have a full soundboard recording. So they can remaster the audio and piece together what they have. Even if it's just a black screen for the first half of the show until they have video footage. lol


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Reply #69 posted 05/29/20 6:37pm

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I think another Purple Rain issue or a totally inclusive one would be in 2024 the 40th anniversary, would be good timing maybe you can get all the protege stuff on their and actually releasing some of their records all during that year. I think with Parade and Around the World reissues i doubt we will see them, I think SOTT makes total sense its got so much out there in forms and variations so it almost seems a no brainer to go with it at this point. It would be interesting though to see what will happen with 90's work, since there is stuff unreleased, would TGE get a reissue with different versions or even COME which seems to be more respected now than it was. Diamonds and Pearls and Love Symbol i dont know what to do there, probably going to get some kind of vinyl issues with those i dont see a huge demand to reissue those. But i know whatever the estate does we will have issues so let it roll


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Reply #70 posted 05/29/20 6:38pm

cbosdad

Thinking about it, a disc of single/extended/b-side cuts shouldn't be hard to figure out.

Sign o the Times (edit) 3:44

La, La, La, Hee, Hee, Hee (edit) 3:23

La, La, La, Hee, Hee, Hee (Highly Explosive) 10:40

If I Was Your Girlfriend (edit) 3:47

Shockadelica (edit) 3:31

Shockadelica 6:20

U Got the Look (Long Look) 6:45

I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man (edit) 3:41

Housequake (7 minutes Mo' Quake) 7:10

Housequake (edit) 3:20

Hot Thing (edit) 3:40

Hot Thing (Extended Remix) 8:32

Hot Thing (Dub Version) 6:53

Adore (edit) 4:42

That's a full CD right there. If there's anything else, it'll have to be on another disc.

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Reply #71 posted 05/29/20 7:28pm

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Seems like the Past 1999 Deluxe Box Set sold out quickly on most Retail stores here in the US.
I will definitely have to get this
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

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Reply #72 posted 05/29/20 7:34pm

dsimp8

VaultCurator said:



dsimp8 said:


Maybe the remaster can get Forever In My Life at the correct volume as the rest of album


If the original 2 inch tape is still around they could even include a version with the lead and backing vocals in their originally intended places. It would make for an interesting listen.




Forgot about that! Would be amazing to hear the original intent for the song!!
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Reply #73 posted 05/29/20 7:46pm

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2 cds : Remastered album.
1 cd : Of mixes.
2 cds : Outtakes?
2 cd : A live show split on 2 cds.
1 dvd.

Just my guess

Edir..

Oh 8 CD + DVD! Wow..
Maybe 3 cds of outakes?
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Reply #74 posted 05/29/20 8:14pm

AvocadosMax

Its my birthday and the best gift today was specualtion online coming from a "reliable source" that the Prince estate may or may not release SOTT Deluxe remaster in September...

I hope its true!!! if so this will be better than the 1999 super deluxe!

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Reply #75 posted 05/29/20 8:49pm

thedoorkeeper

BartVanHemelen said:


  • Sign O' The Times (Edit) 3:42

  • La, La, La, He, He, Hee 3:21

  • La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) 10:32

  • If I Was Your Girlfriend 3:46

  • Shockadelica 3:30

  • Shockadelica (Extended Version) 6:12

  • U Got The Look (Video Version) 5:32

  • U Got The Look (Long Look) 6:45

  • Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake) 7:15

  • Housequake (Edit) 3:24

  • Hot Thing (Dub Version) 6:53

  • Hot Thing (Edit) 3:40

  • Hot Thing (Extended Remix) 8:32

  • I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Fade) 3:39


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Total: 76:43


I'll buy that!
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Reply #76 posted 05/29/20 8:56pm

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8 CD's could mean they did a quite good effort to include all relevant materials.

DVD is hopefully from film, not from video.

But in case from film it could have been a BluRay.

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Reply #77 posted 05/29/20 9:29pm

rap

I wonder, if they will include the six songs missing from the Sign O' The Times film otherwise why bother with the same old same old?!

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Reply #78 posted 05/29/20 10:27pm

rap

rusty1 said:

I hope that DVD is the famous 1987 Milan Italy show 🙂🤞

Professionally filmed?

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Reply #79 posted 05/29/20 10:50pm

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BartVanHemelen said:



Strive said:


VaultCurator said:


Given how much longer SOTT was in development for I'm guessing there'll be 3 discs of vault stuff...


CD 1&2 - The Remastered Album (and about time!)


CD 3 - Edits, B-sides, mixes etc


CD 4, 5 & 6 - Tha Vault


CD 7 & 8 - Something live. I wonder it there will be enough space to include a full concert in adddition to the First Avenue rehearsal show.



It's certainly possible but I was trying to think like Warner. They're going to hold back a bit but what I posted on paper all has selling points that will resonate. You have Prince's most critically acclaimed album, all the edits, 2 full discs of unreleased vault material, a lost album of Prince playing with his gender bender persona (blah with that description but that is how Howe will push it), a legendary aftershow that's never been available in soundboard and a live show with Miles Davis available in full for the first time. [Edited 5/29/20 17:35pm]

.


Camille isn't lost, all of the tracks except one have been released. (I really don't understand why they don't release Camille for RSD.)


.


And they're not gonna release an aftershow, they're gonna release a regular show. On boot we have a combination of an incomplete Paris SBD recording combined with one track from the encore of a Dutch show SBD recording, so we know at least those two exist.


.


NYE with Miles Davis? Possible, but if it is an incomplete video they might be hesitant.


I'm pretty sure most, if not all shows were recorded at the time. Quality may vary because it's unclear if we have multitracks for each or just a rough stereo mix made on the spot, but it's there in the vault. I'm still pretty certain that the 1999 video show's audio could have been provided in much better quality, if not in a quality similar to the audio show, if the estate had bothered.
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Reply #80 posted 05/30/20 12:09am

tab32792

Sign is a return to form. A primarily solo album with minor contributions. The outtakes should start late 86 after he disbanded the revolution and stop in 87. The dream factory music is where some sign songs start but the music doesn’t fit. It’s too poppy
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Reply #81 posted 05/30/20 12:09am

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Also it’s unlikely the dvd will be a movie so I’m hoping for an actual sign concert finally
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Reply #82 posted 05/30/20 12:36am

Marco81

rusty1 said:

I hope that DVD is the famous 1987 Milan Italy show
🙂🤞

Which date would that be and why is it famous?
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Reply #83 posted 05/30/20 1:01am

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tab32792 said:

Sign is a return to form.

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A "return to form"? Are you suggesting P wasn't in top form in 1986? LOL

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Reply #84 posted 05/30/20 1:33am

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I hope The Flesh will be on it.
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Reply #85 posted 05/30/20 1:33am

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lust said:

dave1dmarx said:



lust said:


2020 will be remembered as a great year!

In what universe? eek



In an ironic universe.

A Prince collector's universe.
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Reply #86 posted 05/30/20 2:17am

yello1

According to a good source ( Elvis Paisley) from the french forum Schkopi, the official announcement will be on June 7th ... in addition to a possible surprise ...



[Edited 5/30/20 2:17am]

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Reply #87 posted 05/30/20 2:40am

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Well, I was super sceptical when 1999 Super Deluxe was rumoured with the 6 disc set, and that turned out to be true. So I am now cautiously optimistic and very much looking forward to an official announcement. Very exciting.

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Reply #88 posted 05/30/20 2:45am

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Strive said:

Most of SMiLE was released on Smiley Smiley and various Beach Boys projects but that didn't stop the record company and music press from billing it as a lost album.

.

Not the same thing.

.

And why not an aftershow? The DVD is (probably) going to be showing off a regular show. Having something like the New Morning show would showcase his jazzy side with Madhouse and some of the best of that era on the Prince side. While also being something that the hardcores know but don't have in the highest quality possible.

.

WBR still is pimping the Syracuse show, while we know that there are plenty of soundboard recordings of other shows. One of the official videos is filmed at another PR show, and surely they didn't just film that one song. Yet all we get is Syracuse Syracuse Syracuse, despite this being bootlegged ad nauseam.

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Reply #89 posted 05/30/20 2:50am

Romeoblu

What I would love to be included.

Love and Sex 86 with Prince's vocal, if it exists.
Cosmic Day
Full Length Crucial, the guitar version
Wally
In A Large Room With No Light.

Hopefully we will get confirmation later next week and a full track list and maybe even a taster song.
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