independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince NEVER Should Have Turned Down...
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 01/23/20 8:44pm

CynicKill

Prince NEVER Should Have Turned Down...

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-pZ6Wgko_eilacKoL8y27CZhKptdXHpQgMzOTdM8ojxybqgRx&s

This really occured to me while I was watching "Bohemian Rapsody". I was thinking Queen should not be the breakout performance of Live Aid. Prince should be part of this history. And lastly, if there ever is a Prince biopic, where oh where is Prince's standout Live Aid performance to top off the movie?

>

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqMpSq1v2UUqZFDX0905ztX-fYJdsQY9W0RCcfVC0lp0vTIBmUNA&s

Back when it was a big deal for musicians to grace the cover of TIME magazine cutural zietgiesters such as Michael Jackson, Madonna, U2, Bruce Springsteen, pretty much all the important artists, were all respectfully represented. Who turned them down? You know who. But why? It's just a cool thing to be part of your legacy. I wanted my Kieth Haring inspired TIME cover!

We_Are_the_World_alternative_cover.jpg

This is a no-brainer. Anyone whos anyone was on this thing. It was a huge cultural movement. Everyone loved it. And again he could've been a highlight. But yet again he missed out on something that was a milestone for the decade he represented. I just feel he was being way to contrary with these choices. He took a hard left anyway. He should've lived in the moment. Just one fans opinion.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 01/23/20 9:00pm

udo

avatar

Why shouldn't he have turned down those?

He did and life went on in a pretty nice way.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 01/23/20 9:06pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

MJ wasn't at LiveAid either. He was in the studio allegedly working on something, but I don't know what. His next album wasn't out for another two and a half years.

Queen was a breakout performance because their popularity was in full swing. It was a well-played, showboat moment. 1984, the year prior, belonged to Prince. A number one movie, soundtrack, single after single. He was the zeitgeist of 1984.

I tend to think about his views on the PR tour and how it was so structured that it almost killed him. I thinking coming off the PR tour in March or April, then Live Aid happening a couple of months later, and adding that Geldof maybe would have requested he sing some PR or 1999 era songs, that he was just over that part of his career. I can't see him getting in front of 100K people trying to sing "Raspberry Beret" or "Paisley Park" in the middle of the day. It seems like typical Prince fashion that he was already moving onto something else. ATWIAD was out, "Raspberry Beret" was on the radio, he didn't quite look like the Prince we saw in Purple Rain, so the timing was off.

I also can't forget Geldof's words about Prince not showing up to We Are The World and how it'll forever be to Prince's shame or some stupid shit. Prince is going to come cowering in to make public amends and bend to Mr. Boomtown Rats' scolding? Nope. Too cool for that!

Anyhoo - Prince did what he thought was right for him. Live Aid wasn't the end all of everything. I agree it was very "in the moment" at the time. He donated a song, a video, (Madonna's clothing), and likely money to the cause of world hunger. He didn't need Live Aid, Live Aid needed him.

"I tried to tell them that I didn't want to sing, but I'd gladly write a song instead.

They said 'okay', and everything was cool, until the camera tried to get in my bed."

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 01/23/20 9:19pm

callimnate

avatar

Prince was never a part of that scene back then.

He would never have fitted in amongst all those top 40 acts.

If you cant see that in Prince, then you're missing half the point of his existance.

Live wise, he might've made an impact, but even then he had already moved on from his PR phase, so you dont know how others wouldve reacted to a Prince with short hair doing an ATWIAD intro, instead of a permed Lets Go Crazy.

Time showed that he made the right call for himself and his true followers. wink



  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 01/23/20 10:01pm

nextedition

avatar

Why shouldnt queen be the breakout performance? Whats wrong with queen?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 01/23/20 10:49pm

BartVanHemelen

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:



Queen was a breakout performance because their popularity was in full swing.

.

Absolute nonsense.

.

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 01/23/20 10:49pm

BartVanHemelen

avatar

callimnate said:

Prince was never a part of that scene back then.

He would never have fitted in amongst all those top 40 acts.

.

Like... Bob Dylan?

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 01/23/20 11:47pm

AvocadosMax

Prince already got a semi-bio pic, and had a standout performance at the end of that movie
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 01/23/20 11:49pm

AvocadosMax

Prince was so smart to do Purple Rain. Not only was it unique and fresh at the time, it avoided people in the future ever making a bio-pic on him. He controls what he wants the world to know about him, not anyone else
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 01/23/20 11:50pm

AvocadosMax

But if someone ever actually did make a bio-pic of Prince and not The Kid, then the standout performance at the end would obviously be the SUPER BOWL, especially since that’s where he said he’d end his memoirs at
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 01/24/20 6:23am

PeggyO

BartVanHemelen said:

callimnate said:

Prince was never a part of that scene back then.

He would never have fitted in amongst all those top 40 acts.

.

Like... Bob Dylan?

LOL

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 01/24/20 6:28am

CynicKill

nextedition said:

Why shouldnt queen be the breakout performance? Whats wrong with queen?

Queen was the breakout.

But Prince wasn't there.

That was the point.

Then again as someone pointed out a Prince performance at that time could've easily turned into the WTF performance of the event had he, in typical Prince fashion, decided to do ATWIAD material as opposed to the greatest hits line up Queen did.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 01/24/20 6:41am

jaawwnn

avatar

BartVanHemelen said:

TrivialPursuit said:



Queen was a breakout performance because their popularity was in full swing.

.

Absolute nonsense.

.

Why? They had just released The Works with Radio GaGa and I Want to Break Free both hitting top 5 everywhere except America. Unless you're trying split hairs over them being very famous in the 70s as well?


I'm fairly sure Prince doing Lets Go Crazy -> Raspberry Beret -> I would Die 4 U -> Baby I'm a Star -> Purple Rain would have went down a storm but sure whatever, he had other things on his mind.



CynicKill said:

nextedition said:

Why shouldnt queen be the breakout performance? Whats wrong with queen?

Queen was the breakout.

But Prince wasn't there.

That was the point.

Then again as someone pointed out a Prince performance at that time could've easily turned into the WTF performance of the event had he, in typical Prince fashion, decided to do ATWIAD material as opposed to the greatest hits line up Queen did.

Adam Ant had his time cut and only did one song, a new song, and he is famously the only artist whose sales dropped after Live Aid.

[Edited 1/24/20 6:44am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 01/24/20 7:04am

jdcxc

Prince picked and choose his big events and charity contributions just fine.

And We are the World (the song) was corny and 4 the Tears in Your Eyes was a nice contribution to Live Aid. And as a fan, “Hello” is better than any of those songs. Lol.

Who doesn’t appreciate the iconoclast Prince?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 01/24/20 7:37am

looby

I think that Prince did pretty well without Live Aid.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 01/24/20 7:53am

skywalker

avatar

And lastly, if there ever is a Prince biopic, where oh where is Prince's standout Live Aid performance to top off the movie?

Obviously, The Superbowl.

"New Power slide...."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 01/24/20 7:56am

PURPLEIZED3121

it was the madness of his decsions & the oft F.U. attitude that made me love him so.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 01/24/20 10:58am

Germanegro

avatar

headbang Testimony of a true fan. eyepop biggrin thumbs up!

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

it was the madness of his decsions & the oft F.U. attitude that made me love him so.

chair king

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 01/24/20 12:34pm

bonnie184

CynicKill said:

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqMpSq1v2UUqZFDX0905ztX-fYJdsQY9W0RCcfVC0lp0vTIBmUNA&s

I wanted my Kieth Haring inspired TIME cover!

That ain't Keith Haring.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 01/24/20 12:37pm

PliablyPurple

You forgot Hands Across America.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 01/24/20 12:52pm

indiedisco

jdcxc said:

Prince picked and choose his big events and charity contributions just fine. And We are the World (the song) was corny and 4 the Tears in Your Eyes was a nice contribution to Live Aid. And as a fan, “Hello” is better than any of those songs. Lol. Who doesn’t appreciate the iconoclast Prince?

Extended version of Hello is one of my favourite Prince songs, well worth the "no show" biggrin

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 01/24/20 12:52pm

CynicKill

bonnie184 said:

CynicKill said:

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqMpSq1v2UUqZFDX0905ztX-fYJdsQY9W0RCcfVC0lp0vTIBmUNA&s

I wanted my Kieth Haring inspired TIME cover!

That ain't Keith Haring.

I was unclear.

Of course Prince wouldn't mimic Michael with a Warhol cover.

Just a thought that popped into my head i.e. "who was the quintessential artist of that time".

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 01/24/20 1:26pm

khill95

I used to think the same but..it kind of adds to the Prince legacy that he turned down the biggest live event of the decade. The way that Bob described it wasn't Prince at all. "A Global Jukebox". Prince didn't want to just play his hits, he wanted to play what he felt at the time, and if it included some of his hits, then cool. You can't capture the magic of Prince in 20 minutes, period.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 01/24/20 5:29pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

BartVanHemelen said:

TrivialPursuit said:



Queen was a breakout performance because their popularity was in full swing.

.

Absolute nonsense.

.


You're ridiculous and wrong.

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 01/24/20 5:30pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

PliablyPurple said:

You forgot Hands Across America.


We all forgot it. On purpose.

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 01/24/20 5:33pm

bonatoc

avatar

Andy Warhol, not Keith Haring, you bozo.

Now go read the most evident bios and familiarize yourself with the subject, get some Prince culture before you ridicule yourself.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 01/24/20 5:45pm

bonatoc

avatar

nextedition said:

Why shouldnt queen be the breakout performance? Whats wrong with queen?


Almost everything.

Namely being the poster child for the repressed homosexuality
present in all hypocrite homophobic stadium heterosexuals.
Sing "We Are The Champions" in choir at the Sunday game,
insult or beat up a faggot in dark alleys on Friday night.

On an artistic level, they suck.
Lame hard rock, vulgar Opera-like references.
That guitar sound is an abomination.
It buzzes like a giant malarial disease mosquito.

Freddie Mercury was indeed a sympathetic character, with tons of charisma.
He waved the homo flag with more balls than George Michael,
who was busy trying to fool teenage girls.

But their music is simply atrocious.
Like almost anything past the sixties that met global consensus.
It's only fun when you're drunk enough.
Which happens to lots of people in the Western World on a daily basis.
Cause and Effect.


[Edited 1/24/20 18:01pm]

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 01/24/20 5:56pm

bonatoc

avatar

"Huge cultural movement" my ass.

You're politically incompetent.
You know nothing of the sad state Africa was left in for decades.
Oh no, I got news for you, it still is!

Man, despite Geldof and Quincy Jones!
Pinch me, I must be dreamin'.

There's more to the world than middle-class (the Africans spell it "rich") white kids auto-congratulating themselves while they attend concerts sponsored by Coca-Cola®.

Prince gave a lot to charities in his lifetime, and never made it public.
The only times he did was during the Purple Rain Tour.
Never heard of anyone else of his stature giving a concert for the deaf.

Certainly no one from the gang of arrivists
that ran to the studios right after the Awards to give
themselves some good conscience and free publicity.

Oh my God!
They sang for a few hours!
For free!
Let's praise their names for ever and ever.

And please spare us the suspected pedophile cover, thank you very much.



[Edited 1/24/20 18:04pm]

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 01/24/20 6:00pm

bonatoc

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Absolute nonsense.

.


You're ridiculous and wrong.

No he ain't.

Queen weren't huge at the time. At all.
Big maybe, but certainly not huge.
Fact.

The world began to suck Freddie's dick after he passed away.
Before that, it couldn't care less.


And the top performance of the 1985 Live Aid remains "Bad" by U2.
In spite of, or because of Bono's last honest Christic moment.


[Edited 1/24/20 18:11pm]

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 01/24/20 6:18pm

bonatoc

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

"I tried to tell them that I didn't want to sing, but I'd gladly write a song instead.

They said 'okay', and everything was cool, until the camera tried to get in my bed."



We're against hungry children
Our record stands tall
But there's just as much hunger here at home

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince NEVER Should Have Turned Down...