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Thread started 01/04/20 7:52am

Urine

What vault songs would be on a Parade Deluxe release

There seems to be a bit of a cross over of tracks that could go on a Parade Deluxe and a Sign of the times deluxe.

Such as All My Dreams, It'a
S A Wonderful Day, Teacher, Teacher, In A Large Room with No Lights.

I got Parade on record for Christmas so have been listening alot the last week or so and I've really been enjoying it.

What songs would go on a Parade deluxe?
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Reply #1 posted 01/04/20 8:06am

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Parade (Super Deluxe):


CD 1: The Album

Released Version Remastered:

01) Christopher Tracy's Parade
02) New Position
03) I Wonder U
04) Under The Cherry Moon
05) Girls & Boys
06) Life Can Be So Nice
07) Venus De Milo
08) Mountains
09) Do U Lie?
10) Kiss
11) Anotherloverholenyohead
12) Sometimes It Snows In April

1 May 1985 configuration:

13) Wendy's Parade
14) New Position
15) I Wonder U
16) Under The Cherry Moon
17) Others Here With Us
18) Life Can Be So Nice
19) Sometimes It Snows In April
20) Old Friends 4 Sale
21) All My Dreams


CD 2: Singles, Edits, B-Sides


7" Edits:

01) Kiss (3:45)
02) Girls & Boys (3:27)
03) Anotherloverholenyohead (3:23)
04) ♥ Or $ (3:57)
05) Alexa De Paris (3:20)

Extended Version:

06) Kiss (7:16)
07) Mountains (9:56)
08) Anotherloverholenyohead (7:52)
09) ♥ Or $ (6:49)
10) Alexa De Paris (4:54)


CD 3: The Vault Part 1

01) Love or Money (original version)
02) Girls & Boys (original version)
03) Tibet
04) Heaven
05) Neon Telephone
06) Evolsidog
07) God Is Everywhere
08) Come Elektra Tuesday
09) Stella And Charles
10) Call Of The Wild


CD 4: The Vault Part 2

01) Go
02) Splash '85
03) My Sex
04) (U Got The) Good Drawers
05) Killin' At The Soda Shop
06) Polka-Dot Tiger
07) Living Doll
08) Palomino Pleasure Ride
09) Sexual Suicide
10) Empty Room


CD 5: The Vault Part 3 - Paisley Jam session

01) Madrid
02) Breathless
03) Slaughterhouse
04) U Just Can't Stop
05) Run Amok
06) 12 Keys
07) High Calonic
08) Mobile


CD 6: Parade Live, Yokohama, 9 Sep. 1986 (part 1)

01) Around The World In A Day
02) Christopher Tracy's Parade
03) New Position
04) I Wonder U
05) Raspberry Beret
06) Delirious
07) Controversy
08) A Love Bizarre
09) Do Me, Baby
10) (How Much Is) That Doggie In The Window?
11) Lady Cab Driver (instrumental)
12) Automatic
13) D.M.S.R.
14) When Doves Cry
15) Little Red Corvette
16) Do U Lie?
17) The Ladder
18) Condition Of The Heart
19) Under The Cherry Moon


CD 7: Parade Live, Yokohama, 9 Sep. 1986 (part 2)

01) Anotherloverholenyohead
02) ♥ Or $
03) Head
04) Pop Life
05) Girls & Boys
06) Life Can Be So Nice
07) 1999
08) America
09) Kiss
10) Sometimes It Snows In April
11) Purple Rain


DVD:
Hit n Run Birthday Show (7 June 1986)
Plus bonus: A Love Bizarre (8th March 1986)

- - - - -


Sign 'O' The Times (Super Deluxe)



CD 1: Crystal Ball I

01) Rebirth Of The Flesh
02) Play In The Sunshine
03) Housequake
04) The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
05) It
06) Starfish And Coffee
07) Slow Love
08) Hot Thing
09) Crystal Ball
10) If I Was Your Girlfriend
11) Rockhard In A Funky Place


CD 2: Crystal Ball II

01) The Ball
02) Joy In Repetition
03) Strange Relationship
04) I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
05) Shockadelica
06) Good Love
07) Forever In My Life
08) Sign O' The Times
09) The Cross
10) It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night
11) Adore (Until The End Of Time)


CD 3: Singles, Edits, B-Sides


7" Edits:

01) Sign O' The Times (Edit) (3:42)
02) La, La, La, He, He, Hee (3:21)
03) If I Was Your Girlfriend (Edit) (3:46)
04) Shockadelica (3:30)
05) U Got The Look (3:46)
06) Housequake (Edit) (3:24)
07) Hot Thing (Edit) (3:40)
08) I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Fade) (3:39)
09) Feel U Up (3:44)

Extended Versions:

10) La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) (10:32)
11) U Got The Look (Long Look) (6:45)
12) Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake) (7:15)
13) Hot Thing (Extended Remix) (8:32)
14) Hot Thing (Dub Version) (6:53)
15) Feel U Up (Long Stroke)
16) The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker (Extended Version)


CD 4: The Dream Factory Sessions

01) Visions
02) Dream Factory
03) It's A Wonderful Day
04) Train
05) Big Tall Wall
06) And That Says What?
07) Strange Relationship
08) Teacher, Teacher
09) Interlude
10) In A Large Room With No Light
11) Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A
12) Sexual Suicide
13) Crystal Ball
14) Power Fantastic
15) Last Heart
16) Witness 4 The Prosecution
17) Movie Star
18) A Place In Heaven (Lisa’s Vocal)
19) All My Dreams


CD 5: The Vault Part 1 (May 1986 - Sep 1986)

01) Splash '86
02) Baby Go Go
03) Get On Up
04) Eggplant
05) Everybody Wants What They Don't Got
06) Coco Boys
07) Adonis and Batsheeba
08) Joy in Repetition (unsegued)
09) Soulpsychodelicide '86
10) Data Bank
11) Girl 'O' My Dreams
12) Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
13) We Can Funk


CD 6: The Vault Part 2 (Sep 1986 - Feb 1987)

01) When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes
02) Crucial (Eric Leeds mix)
03) Witness 4 The Prosecution (new recording)
04) Telepathy
05) Emotional Pump
06) Eternity
07) Cosmic Day
08) Crucial
09) Walkin' In Glory
10) 3 Nigs Watchin' A Kung Fu Movie
11) Come Home
12) 101
13) Wally


CD 7: Sign O' The Times Live (Paris)



DVD1: 4 Those Of U On Valium



DVD2: Sign O The Times Concert Movie

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Reply #2 posted 01/04/20 8:27am

mbdtyler

^ What's the difference between Splash '85 and Splash '86?

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Reply #3 posted 01/04/20 8:46am

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^ What's the difference between Splash '85 and Splash '86?


I may be wrong here but I believe there are two versions in circulation. There was the version released on NPGMC which I presume is Splash '86, but I believe there was also an earlier version which was the basic recording before it was sent to Clare Fischer. Now you've mentioned it, I'm beginning to doubt myself. I may have to amend that. I'll check later to see if I have an unreleased early version.

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Reply #4 posted 01/04/20 8:51am

mbdtyler

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mbdtyler said:

^ What's the difference between Splash '85 and Splash '86?


I may be wrong here but I believe there are two versions in circulation. There was the version released on NPGMC which I presume is Splash '86, but I believe there was also an earlier version which was the basic recording before it was sent to Clare Fischer. Now you've mentioned it, I'm beginning to doubt myself. I may have to amend that. I'll check later to see if I have an unreleased early version.

Ah, got it. I think I've only heard one version, presumably the NPGMC one. If I remember correctly, someone on here believed he updated the mix and included new sound effects before it was officially released online?

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Reply #5 posted 01/04/20 8:53am

LoveGalore

VaultCurator said:



mbdtyler said:


^ What's the difference between Splash '85 and Splash '86?




I may be wrong here but I believe there are two versions in circulation. There was the version released on NPGMC which I presume is Splash '86, but I believe there was also an earlier version which was the basic recording before it was sent to Clare Fischer. Now you've mentioned it, I'm beginning to doubt myself. I may have to amend that. I'll check later to see if I have an unreleased early version.



You're right but the difference is so incredibly negligible. Probably something we don't know about could fit in that slot instead.
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LoveGalore said:

VaultCurator said:


I may be wrong here but I believe there are two versions in circulation. There was the version released on NPGMC which I presume is Splash '86, but I believe there was also an earlier version which was the basic recording before it was sent to Clare Fischer. Now you've mentioned it, I'm beginning to doubt myself. I may have to amend that. I'll check later to see if I have an unreleased early version.

You're right but the difference is so incredibly negligible. Probably something we don't know about could fit in that slot instead.


Good call. I'm sure there are a few unknown gems from the Parade era that can fill in nicely. Fingers crossed Parade Deluxe will unearth some surprises. wink

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LoveGalore

VaultCurator said:



LoveGalore said:


VaultCurator said:



I may be wrong here but I believe there are two versions in circulation. There was the version released on NPGMC which I presume is Splash '86, but I believe there was also an earlier version which was the basic recording before it was sent to Clare Fischer. Now you've mentioned it, I'm beginning to doubt myself. I may have to amend that. I'll check later to see if I have an unreleased early version.



You're right but the difference is so incredibly negligible. Probably something we don't know about could fit in that slot instead.


Good call. I'm sure there are a few unknown gems from the Parade era that can fill in nicely. Fingers crossed Parade Deluxe will unearth some surprises. wink



I really hope so. For what it's worth, they better put Call of the Wild, God is Everywhere, and Evolsidog on there as I am desperately wanting to hear them!
[Edited 1/4/20 9:45am]
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Reply #8 posted 01/04/20 9:47am

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VaultCurator said:

Parade (Super Deluxe):

[snip]


I think the Parade list is pretty good. In subsequent deluxes, I don't think we need repeat tracks just because they differ slightly. It's important to keep the version that is succinct with that time period. As an example, if "Splash" originated in 1985, then it likely belongs on a Parade deluxe set, and not SOTT. "Moonbeam Levels" was considered for other projects after 1982, but it ended up on 1999 where it belongs. Unless there were significant changes (e.g: "Bold Generation," "Can't Stop," "Irresistible Bitch," "Possessed"), then the earlier or more complete would be best.

Anyhoo, a lot of this depends on the existing quality of things. But yeah, ATWIAD and Parade deluxe really have to be next. I think ATWIAD gets overlooked a lot because it was almost like a filler album. Prince was over all things Purple Rain, and was formulating Under The Cherry Moon/Parade stuff (plus The Family and Mazarati projects). It deserves its own deluxe set, even if it's just three disks or something. The extendeds and b-sides are so great from that album. And any outtakes or alt versions, like the bass-y title track, or the earlier "Raspberry Beret" are good for the third disk. With the onset of The Family and then UTCM, there may not be quite as much viable material for ATWIAD to expand past 3 disks. Maaaaybe 4 at most. But still..it'd be nice.

As a note, "Raspberry Beret" dates earlier than ATWIAD, but it belongs on ATWIAD because that's when it saw the light of day. So an earlier version on that would be notable. But then, on the other tip, you have those Graffiti Bridge songs on 1999. I suppose I'm more worried about duplicates with only slight variations than the timeline (which is still a top priority).

PS I think the two Crystal Ball configs are unnecessary.

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TrivialPursuit said:



...there may not be quite as much viable material for ATWIAD to expand past 3 disks. Maaaaybe 4 at most. But still..it'd be nice.


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If we do get ATWIAD I hope they consider sticking the entire Family album in it with Prince's vocal. Having said that, it would mean Nothing Compares 2 U getting released again which may not gel well with fans.
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Reply #10 posted 01/04/20 10:03am

LoveGalore

TrivialPursuit said:



VaultCurator said:


Parade (Super Deluxe):

[snip]




I think the Parade list is pretty good. In subsequent deluxes, I don't think we need repeat tracks just because they differ slightly. It's important to keep the version that is succinct with that time period. As an example, if "Splash" originated in 1985, then it likely belongs on a Parade deluxe set, and not SOTT. "Moonbeam Levels" was considered for other projects after 1982, but it ended up on 1999 where it belongs. Unless there were significant changes (e.g: "Bold Generation," "Can't Stop," "Irresistible Bitch," "Possessed"), then the earlier or more complete would be best.

Anyhoo, a lot of this depends on the existing quality of things. But yeah, ATWIAD and Parade deluxe really have to be next. I think ATWIAD gets overlooked a lot because it was almost like a filler album. Prince was over all things Purple Rain, and was formulating Under The Cherry Moon/Parade stuff (plus The Family and Mazarati projects). It deserves its own deluxe set, even if it's just three disks or something. The extendeds and b-sides are so great from that album. And any outtakes or alt versions, like the bass-y title track, or the earlier "Raspberry Beret" are good for the third disk. With the onset of The Family and then UTCM, there may not be quite as much viable material for ATWIAD to expand past 3 disks. Maaaaybe 4 at most. But still..it'd be nice.

As a note, "Raspberry Beret" dates earlier than ATWIAD, but it belongs on ATWIAD because that's when it saw the light of day. So an earlier version on that would be notable. But then, on the other tip, you have those Graffiti Bridge songs on 1999. I suppose I'm more worried about duplicates with only slight variations than the timeline (which is still a top priority).

PS I think the two Crystal Ball configs are unnecessary.



They tried to find Raspberry Beret to put the original on the 1999 SDE but couldn't find any trace of it. It would absolutely belong on there, imo.

I think ATWIAD probably has the least amount of potential material for an SDE. It was the shortest period between albums and judging by the 83/84 sessions book, he wasn't doing that much recording since he was prepping the tour, finishing A6's and the Family's records, and on the promo circuit for the movie (tho I suppose he didn't do a ton of promo because, well, Prince).
[Edited 1/4/20 10:04am]
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LoveGalore said:


They tried to find Raspberry Beret to put the original on the 1999 SDE but couldn't find any trace of it. It would absolutely belong on there, imo.


That's a shame. Do you know whether or not they looked for Strange Relationship? I would have loved to have heard the '82 version of that.
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Reply #12 posted 01/04/20 10:18am

LoveGalore

VaultCurator said:

LoveGalore said:


They tried to find Raspberry Beret to put the original on the 1999 SDE but couldn't find any trace of it. It would absolutely belong on there, imo.


That's a shame. Do you know whether or not they looked for Strange Relationship? I would have loved to have heard the '82 version of that.
[Edited 1/4/20 10:14am]


Strange Relationship would need to be on the PR SDE redux gig as it was recorded in early 83!
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LoveGalore said:

VaultCurator said:



That's a shame. Do you know whether or not they looked for Strange Relationship? I would have loved to have heard the '82 version of that.
[Edited 1/4/20 10:14am]


Strange Relationship would need to be on the PR SDE redux gig as it was recorded in early 83!


Oh, fair enough. Hopefully with a live dub of Electric Intercourse. wink
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Reply #14 posted 01/04/20 10:45am

jn2

The original New Position (Spring-Summer 1982) wasn't on 1999 Deluxe, so I hope it will be released on the Parade one!

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VaultCurator said:

TrivialPursuit said:


...there may not be quite as much viable material for ATWIAD to expand past 3 disks. Maaaaybe 4 at most. But still..it'd be nice.

. If we do get ATWIAD I hope they consider sticking the entire Family album in it with Prince's vocal. Having said that, it would mean Nothing Compares 2 U getting released again which may not gel well with fans.


I'm not opposed to that!

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They tried to find Raspberry Beret to put the original on the 1999 SDE but couldn't find any trace of it. It would absolutely belong on there, imo. I think ATWIAD probably has the least amount of potential material for an SDE. It was the shortest period between albums and judging by the 83/84 sessions book, he wasn't doing that much recording since he was prepping the tour, finishing A6's and the Family's records, and on the promo circuit for the movie (tho I suppose he didn't do a ton of promo because, well, Prince). [Edited 1/4/20 10:04am]


That sucks. I'd love to hear it, but maybe it was just him on the piano like Piano and a Microphone stuff? Maybe we'll never know.

I think you're right. A super deluxe would be too far reaching. But, a nice 3-disk set wouldn't hurt. A DVD of the show where "America" was taken from would be cool.

And it really was a short period. So many of those songs were done before or during the tour. It's really amazing to hear such a point of view on all the PR related material, but during that time you have him recording "Pop Life" (with two lead vocals acting as an echo to the other), the title track or even "Paisley Park." I guess it's because we think of most artists recording a record, touring, doing all the schtick around it, taking time off, then setting out to do another record. But with Prince recording all the time, there's so much overlap and cross pollenation. It really does floor me when I think about it.

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The original New Position (Spring-Summer 1982) wasn't on 1999 Deluxe, so I hope it will be released on the Parade one!


Yeah, and the one that leaked with full Clare Fisher on it is pretty incredible to hear. When Wendy talked about how Clare works with counter melody - Prince sings right and Clare writes left, etc - you can really hear it on "New Position." I don't need a full Clare vs Prince record, but maybe add some of those elements in the deluxe somewhere. Possibly on the earlier version with "All My Dreams," etc.

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Reply #18 posted 01/04/20 12:43pm

Phase3

To VaultCurator,doesn't "Feel U Up" belong on the Batman deluxe editions.I know the songs dates back to 82 but didn't get a official release until 89.
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Reply #19 posted 01/04/20 12:58pm

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VaultCurator said:[quote]

Parade (Super Deluxe):


CD 1: The Album

Released Version Remastered:

01) Christopher Tracy's Parade
02) New Position
03) I Wonder U
04) Under The Cherry Moon
05) Girls & Boys
06) Life Can Be So Nice
07) Venus De Milo
08) Mountains
09) Do U Lie?
10) Kiss
11) Anotherloverholenyohead
12) Sometimes It Snows In April

1 May 1985 configuration:

13) Wendy's Parade
14) New Position
15) I Wonder U
16) Under The Cherry Moon
17) Others Here With Us
18) Life Can Be So Nice
19) Sometimes It Snows In April
20) Old Friends 4 Sale
21) All My Dreams


CD 2: Singles, Edits, B-Sides


7" Edits:

01) Kiss (3:45)
02) Girls & Boys (3:27)
03) Anotherloverholenyohead (3:23)
04) ♥ Or $ (3:57)
05) Alexa De Paris (3:20)

Extended Version:

06) Kiss (7:16)
07) Mountains (9:56)
08) Anotherloverholenyohead (7:52)
09) ♥ Or $ (6:49)
10) Alexa De Paris (4:54)


CD 3: The Vault Part 1

01) Love or Money (original version)
02) Girls & Boys (original version)
03) Tibet
04) Heaven
05) Neon Telephone
06) Evolsidog
07) God Is Everywhere
08) Come Elektra Tuesday
09) Stella And Charles
10) Call Of The Wild


CD 4: The Vault Part 2

01) Go
02) Splash '85
03) My Sex
04) (U Got The) Good Drawers
05) Killin' At The Soda Shop
06) Polka-Dot Tiger
07) Living Doll
08) Palomino Pleasure Ride
09) Sexual Suicide
10) Empty Room


CD 5: The Vault Part 3 - Paisley Jam session

01) Madrid
02) Breathless
03) Slaughterhouse
04) U Just Can't Stop
05) Run Amok
06) 12 Keys
07) High Calonic
08) Mobile


CD 6: Parade Live, Yokohama, 9 Sep. 1986 (part 1)

01) Around The World In A Day
02) Christopher Tracy's Parade
03) New Position
04) I Wonder U
05) Raspberry Beret
06) Delirious
07) Controversy
08) A Love Bizarre
09) Do Me, Baby
10) (How Much Is) That Doggie In The Window?
11) Lady Cab Driver (instrumental)
12) Automatic
13) D.M.S.R.
14) When Doves Cry
15) Little Red Corvette
16) Do U Lie?
17) The Ladder
18) Condition Of The Heart
19) Under The Cherry Moon


CD 7: Parade Live, Yokohama, 9 Sep. 1986 (part 2)

01) Anotherloverholenyohead
02) ♥ Or $
03) Head
04) Pop Life
05) Girls & Boys
06) Life Can Be So Nice
07) 1999
08) America
09) Kiss
10) Sometimes It Snows In April
11) Purple Rain


DVD:
Hit n Run Birthday Show (7 June 1986)
Plus bonus: A Love Bizarre (8th March 1986)

- - - - -


Sign 'O' The Times (Super Deluxe)



CD 1: Crystal Ball I

01) Rebirth Of The Flesh
02) Play In The Sunshine
03) Housequake
04) The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
05) It
06) Starfish And Coffee
07) Slow Love
08) Hot Thing
09) Crystal Ball
10) If I Was Your Girlfriend
11) Rockhard In A Funky Place


CD 2: Crystal Ball II

01) The Ball
02) Joy In Repetition
03) Strange Relationship
04) I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
05) Shockadelica
06) Good Love
07) Forever In My Life
08) Sign O' The Times
09) The Cross
10) It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night
11) Adore (Until The End Of Time)


CD 3: Singles, Edits, B-Sides


7" Edits:

01) Sign O' The Times (Edit) (3:42)
02) La, La, La, He, He, Hee (3:21)
03) If I Was Your Girlfriend (Edit) (3:46)
04) Shockadelica (3:30)
05) U Got The Look (3:46)
06) Housequake (Edit) (3:24)
07) Hot Thing (Edit) (3:40)
08) I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Fade) (3:39)
09) Feel U Up (3:44)

Extended Versions:

10) La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) (10:32)
11) U Got The Look (Long Look) (6:45)
12) Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake) (7:15)
13) Hot Thing (Extended Remix) (8:32)
14) Hot Thing (Dub Version) (6:53)
15) Feel U Up (Long Stroke)
16) The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker (Extended Version)


CD 4: The Dream Factory Sessions

01) Visions
02) Dream Factory
03) It's A Wonderful Day
04) Train
05) Big Tall Wall
06) And That Says What?
07) Strange Relationship
08) Teacher, Teacher
09) Interlude
10) In A Large Room With No Light
11) Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A
12) Sexual Suicide
13) Crystal Ball
14) Power Fantastic
15) Last Heart
16) Witness 4 The Prosecution
17) Movie Star
18) A Place In Heaven (Lisa’s Vocal)
19) All My Dreams


CD 5: The Vault Part 1 (May 1986 - Sep 1986)

01) Splash '86
02) Baby Go Go
03) Get On Up
04) Eggplant
05) Everybody Wants What They Don't Got
06) Coco Boys
07) Adonis and Batsheeba
08) Joy in Repetition (unsegued)
09) Soulpsychodelicide '86
10) Data Bank
11) Girl 'O' My Dreams
12) Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
13) We Can Funk


CD 6: The Vault Part 2 (Sep 1986 - Feb 1987)

01) When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes
02) Crucial (Eric Leeds mix)
03) Witness 4 The Prosecution (new recording)
04) Telepathy
05) Emotional Pump
06) Eternity
07) Cosmic Day
08) Crucial
09) Walkin' In Glory
10) 3 Nigs Watchin' A Kung Fu Movie
11) Come Home
12) 101
13) Wally


CD 7: Sign O' The Times Live (Paris)



DVD1: 4 Those Of U On Valium



DVD2: Sign O The Times Concert Movie

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Damn...what an amazing conceptual track list!!!!
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Reply #20 posted 01/04/20 1:27pm

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Don't forget about the 1985 take of "Velvet Kitty Cat" which, if the cassette belonging to a former bandmember is any indication, was at least considered for use on an early configuration of Parade. It's drastically different from what was released on Purple Rain Deluxe. It sounds like he's channeling Jerry Lee Lewis or Little Richard.
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Phase3 said:

To VaultCurator,doesn't "Feel U Up" belong on the Batman deluxe editions.I know the songs dates back to 82 but didn't get a official release until 89.
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Hi Phase3,

I wanted to include all the tracks from Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball, since that was the development journey of Sign O' The Times. Since Feel U Up was the only Camille song not to make the album and a Batman Super Deluxe was unlikely I decided to include it on the singles / B sides disc. wink
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Reply #22 posted 01/04/20 2:49pm

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soladeo1 said:

Damn...what an amazing conceptual track list!!!!


Thank you. I really hope they pull out all the stops when it comes to these two albums. Sign especially.
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Reply #23 posted 01/04/20 2:54pm

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Mindbells9 said:

Don't forget about the 1985 take of "Velvet Kitty Cat" which, if the cassette belonging to a former bandmember is any indication, was at least considered for use on an early configuration of Parade. It's drastically different from what was released on Purple Rain Deluxe. It sounds like he's channeling Jerry Lee Lewis or Little Richard.


Cool. First I've heard of this one. Thanks for the info. I'll have to do a bit of research on it.

If you don't mind me asking did this band members tape just contain the one song, or was it part of a sequence?
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Reply #24 posted 01/04/20 3:03pm

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Phase3 said:

doesn't "Feel U Up" belong on the Batman deluxe editions.I know the songs dates back to 82 but didn't get a official release until 89.


It was simply used as a b-side. It wasn't anything inherent to that stream of music. It's on 1999 Deluxe where it belongs.

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The 84 to 87 period was always going to be the hardest to split out across 'deluxe' type albums as the content creation spanned multiple projects/ideas.

Personally, I think WB would miss a trick if they didn't use this phase to release 'lost albums' as opposed to multiple discs tied to previous releases.

Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball could stand on their own feet. There is still plenty of material to fill vault discs in deluxe sets.

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Reply #26 posted 01/04/20 6:13pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

The 84 to 87 period was always going to be the hardest to split out across 'deluxe' type albums as the content creation spanned multiple projects/ideas.

Personally, I think WB would miss a trick if they didn't use this phase to release 'lost albums' as opposed to multiple discs tied to previous releases.

Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball could stand on their own feet. There is still plenty of material to fill vault discs in deluxe sets.

What is the absolute point of releasing Camille when every song on Camille has been released except one song that was included on Crystal Ball?

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LoveGalore said:

SquirrelMeat said:

The 84 to 87 period was always going to be the hardest to split out across 'deluxe' type albums as the content creation spanned multiple projects/ideas.

Personally, I think WB would miss a trick if they didn't use this phase to release 'lost albums' as opposed to multiple discs tied to previous releases.

Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball could stand on their own feet. There is still plenty of material to fill vault discs in deluxe sets.

What is the absolute point of releasing Camille when every song on Camille has been released except one song that was included on Crystal Ball?


Marketing. Hardcore will buy it for Rebirth alone (it wasn't on CB, are you thinking of Good Love?)

Casuals won't know where the other tracks are pulled from. It's a mystery that can be spun. It's commercial; Good Love, Shockadelica and Strange Relationship would be strong singles to promote it.

Coupled with an extra disc of missing Camille tracks, alt mixes and possibly regular vocal versions, we'll lap it up.

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Reply #28 posted 01/04/20 7:35pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

LoveGalore said:

What is the absolute point of releasing Camille when every song on Camille has been released except one song that was included on Crystal Ball?


Marketing. Hardcore will buy it for Rebirth alone (it wasn't on CB, are you thinking of Good Love?)

Casuals won't know where the other tracks are pulled from. It's a mystery that can be spun. It's commercial; Good Love, Shockadelica and Strange Relationship would be strong singles to promote it.

Coupled with an extra disc of missing Camille tracks, alt mixes and possibly regular vocal versions, we'll lap it up.

I think they meant that Rebirth was on Crystal Ball (1986) but was the only Camille track to never be officially released.

Crystal Ball is cool for what it is, but given how much it shares with SOTT, I'd rather see the 86-87 material broken up differently. I'd love a set including Dream Factory, Camille, The Black Album, and a disc of relevant outtakes (like "The Ball" and "Joy In Repetition"). Even better if everything is remastered to be consistent in volume and quality, so that fans can put together Crystal Ball on their own if they so desire.

Of course, if they decided to release Crystal Ball in addition to the aforementioned albums, I'd probably still buy it anyway lol

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Reply #29 posted 01/04/20 7:45pm

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mbdtyler said:

SquirrelMeat said:


Marketing. Hardcore will buy it for Rebirth alone (it wasn't on CB, are you thinking of Good Love?)

Casuals won't know where the other tracks are pulled from. It's a mystery that can be spun. It's commercial; Good Love, Shockadelica and Strange Relationship would be strong singles to promote it.

Coupled with an extra disc of missing Camille tracks, alt mixes and possibly regular vocal versions, we'll lap it up.

I think they meant that Rebirth was on Crystal Ball (1986) but was the only Camille track to never be officially released.

Crystal Ball is cool for what it is, but given how much it shares with SOTT, I'd rather see the 86-87 material broken up differently. I'd love a set including Dream Factory, Camille, The Black Album, and a disc of relevant outtakes (like "The Ball" and "Joy In Repetition"). Even better if everything is remastered to be consistent in volume and quality, so that fans can put together Crystal Ball on their own if they so desire.

Of course, if they decided to release Crystal Ball in addition to the aforementioned albums, I'd probably still buy it anyway lol



That got me thinking. What about a new website that allows you to click on a playlist that configures the tracks to match a particular project? You could click for 'Camille' and it configures. Click for 'Crystal Ball' and you see the tracks visually reconfigure. Again for Dream Factory.

That would be a novel way of dealing with the cross overs.

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