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Thread started 11/26/19 11:36am

GiggityGoo

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Best thing about the eventual "Sign 'O' The Times" deluxe edition...

On the eve of hearing all the vault tracks on the "1999" deluxe set, I've been thinking about what I'm hoping will be on future reissues.

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I only really have one big "holy grail": a clean, remastered (hopefully) version of "In A Large Room With No Light". My favorite unreleased track. I'm fiending for this. Recorded in June 1986 and initially planned for the "Dream Factory" album, it should fall under the "Sign" sessions timeline. ("Parade" was released in March 1986, so there's no way it could be on that set.)

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Man, if I get that in the next few years... I'm gonna be one happy camper.

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Reply #1 posted 11/26/19 12:04pm

Strive

As much as I like the concept of super deluxe editions, it feels like a waste putting these gems on there instead of compiling a brand new album that would get much more attention.


Compare the Johnny Cash boxset Unearthed to the American V and VI albums. The latter had way more reach culturally.


[Edited 11/26/19 12:11pm]

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Reply #2 posted 11/26/19 12:13pm

AZStreet

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GiggityGoo said:

On the eve of hearing all the vault tracks on the "1999" deluxe set, I've been thinking about what I'm hoping will be on future reissues.

.

I only really have one big "holy grail": a clean, remastered (hopefully) version of "In A Large Room With No Light". My favorite unreleased track. I'm fiending for this. Recorded in June 1986 and initially planned for the "Dream Factory" album, it should fall under the "Sign" sessions timeline. ("Parade" was released in March 1986, so there's no way it could be on that set.)

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Man, if I get that in the next few years... I'm gonna be one happy camper.

An orger after my own heart...it quite literally is my favorote unreleased as well. And is in my top 10 songs by him.

The Montreux 09 version never did quite move me the way the 86 version did. Atlanta, Eric and Norbert were phenomenal and really drove the song for me.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

"Who's the foo singing will it's would"
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Reply #3 posted 11/26/19 12:41pm

GiggityGoo

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Strive said:

As much as I like the concept of super deluxe editions, it feels like a waste putting these gems on there instead of compiling a brand new album that would get much more attention.


Compare the Johnny Cash boxset Unearthed to the American V and VI albums. The latter had way more reach culturally.


[Edited 11/26/19 12:11pm]

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I actually agree with you! It would be cool to hear every configuration of "Dream Factory", or "Crystal Ball", in super-clear remastered sound. (I know people have assembled these versions from bootleg songs, but it's just not the same.) But if all we can get are a few unreleased songs here and there, then I'm okay with that.

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While we're at it, I should mention I'd love the aborted "Camille" album in all its glory, too.

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Reply #4 posted 11/26/19 2:03pm

Strive

GiggityGoo said:

I actually agree with you! It would be cool to hear every configuration of "Dream Factory", or "Crystal Ball", in super-clear remastered sound. (I know people have assembled these versions from bootleg songs, but it's just not the same.) But if all we can get are a few unreleased songs here and there, then I'm okay with that.

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While we're at it, I should mention I'd love the aborted "Camille" album in all its glory, too.

I was talking more about the Estate compiling a brand new album out of outtakes from that period.



Look at the songs that were left on the cutting room floor in 86.

A Place In Heaven
Adonis & Bathsheba
And That Says What? (instrumental)
Baby Doll House
The Ball (evolved into Eye No)
Big Tall Wall
Blanche
Boy U Bad

Coco Boys

Conversation Piece

Cosmic Day

Eggplant

Emotional Pump

Euphoria Highway

Everybody Want What They Don't Got

Frustration

Funny Love

It Ain't Over 'Til The Fat Lady Sings

It's A Wonderful Day

Love And Sex (different to the 1984 released track)

Nine (instrumental) (different to the released Madhouse track)

Pony Ride

Soulpsychodelicide

Susannah's Blues (instrumental)

Twosday

Venus De Milo (Instrumental)

Walkin' In Glory

Wally

When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes

Witness 4 The Prosecution


(In A Large Room With No Light, Crystal Ball, Data Bank, Easy Does It, Joy In Repitition, If I Could Get Your Attention, Last Heart, Make Your Mama Happy, Movie Star, Power Fantastic, Rebirth Of The Flesh, Train, Yah You Know, Yo Mister are songs that were recorded in 86 but not listed above because they recieved a release elsewhere. There's also the cover of Rescue Me that he recorded for Dolly Parton in October 86.)


The estate could put together a killer single (or double album if they pulled a little from 85/87 too) from this material. Obviously they can't know what Prince would've done with it if he had the chance to put it together but it would have more of an impact than letting their first official release of some of these songs be on a $100+ Sign O The Times Super Deluxe Edition.


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Reply #5 posted 11/26/19 3:15pm

djThunderfunk

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It would be better to limit vault tracks on these super deluxe releases to alternate versions of tracks from the project and maybe tracks that were verified to at one time be on an alternate configuration of the album.

The rest should be part of a Vault series. In my not-so-humble opinion, of course... wink

But I'll take what I can get, buy and celebrate this 1999 release. It's not perfect but it's more than I expected after the Purple Rain release. I'm for encouraging them to get better and better hoping that the SOTT set is the one to beat them all and set the standard going forward.

We'll see if my optimism pans out. lol




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Reply #6 posted 11/26/19 3:17pm

jfenster

Strive said:

GiggityGoo said:

I actually agree with you! It would be cool to hear every configuration of "Dream Factory", or "Crystal Ball", in super-clear remastered sound. (I know people have assembled these versions from bootleg songs, but it's just not the same.) But if all we can get are a few unreleased songs here and there, then I'm okay with that.

.

While we're at it, I should mention I'd love the aborted "Camille" album in all its glory, too.

I was talking more about the Estate compiling a brand new album out of outtakes from that period.



Look at the songs that were left on the cutting room floor in 86.

A Place In Heaven
Adonis & Bathsheba
And That Says What? (instrumental)
Baby Doll House
The Ball (evolved into Eye No)
Big Tall Wall
Blanche
Boy U Bad

Coco Boys

Conversation Piece

Cosmic Day

Eggplant

Emotional Pump

Euphoria Highway

Everybody Want What They Don't Got

Frustration

Funny Love

It Ain't Over 'Til The Fat Lady Sings

It's A Wonderful Day

Love And Sex (different to the 1984 released track)

Nine (instrumental) (different to the released Madhouse track)

Pony Ride

Soulpsychodelicide

Susannah's Blues (instrumental)

Twosday

Venus De Milo (Instrumental)

Walkin' In Glory

Wally

When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes

Witness 4 The Prosecution


(In A Large Room With No Light, Crystal Ball, Data Bank, Easy Does It, Joy In Repitition, If I Could Get Your Attention, Last Heart, Make Your Mama Happy, Movie Star, Power Fantastic, Rebirth Of The Flesh, Train, Yah You Know, Yo Mister are songs that were recorded in 86 but not listed above because they recieved a release elsewhere. There's also the cover of Rescue Me that he recorded for Dolly Parton in October 86.)


The estate could put together a killer single (or double album if they pulled a little from 85/87 too) from this material. Obviously they can't know what Prince would've done with it if he had the chance to put it together but it would have more of an impact than letting their first official release of some of these songs be on a $100+ Sign O The Times Super Deluxe Edition.


[Edited 11/26/19 14:40pm]

we dont know how many more tracks r available besides these....so let them find them all first

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Reply #7 posted 11/27/19 2:01am

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Bearing in mind that SOTT is a double album and the sheer amount of possible vault material, I think they would/should limit the vault tracks on that one. They definitely need to do something else with the vault rather than just deluxe sets
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Reply #8 posted 11/27/19 4:20am

JoeTyler

All Prince albums of 1978-1992 should be remastered and re-released, SOTT getting a deluxe/box-set treatment (Camille and Dream Factory tunes , B-sides, remixes, rarities, unreleased, demos, live, etc),like 1999.

Damn, if Chaos and Disorder is being re-released, SOTT should as well.
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Reply #9 posted 11/27/19 5:01am

goosepumble

In a Large Room with No Light is also my favourite unreleased track too, and 1986-1987 is my favourite Prince period. Everything he released and didn't release (that I've heard) during this era is just pure gold. There must have been something in the water at this time. As much as I enjoy 1999 and Purple Rain, it's Sign O' the Times and Parade that I want to see expanded and remastered most.

It's my belief that releasing well-circulated stellar unreleased tracks like Rebirth of the Flesh, Witness 4 the Prosecution, In a Large Room..., Cosmic Day, etc., would really wow casual Prince fans and the general public more than any other unreleased song they've put out since Price's passing.

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