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donnyenglish

Prince’s Focus on Great Intros

Prince clearly put a lot of effort into the intros to his songs. So many of his songs have killer intros. Doves, Let's Work, Get It Up, Bell of St. Mark, 7779311, Stare, Endorphine Machine, DMSR, etc. Too many to name.

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Reply #1 posted 10/22/19 5:16pm

LoveGalore

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The OP is talking about SONG intro's the opening/start of songs

Are you waiting for us to disagree with you?

I'll up the ante and say he put a great amount of effort into the structure of entire albums. Not just the flow of a tracklist, but having a title song usually as the first or last track, a quirky but killer track 2, a quirky or epic balled for the penultimate track (which usually meant the closer was extra funky for a ballad or a ballad following a quirky track).

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G'wan ahead and look at how he placed certain types of songs in a specific flow. Rarely did he ever change from title tracks at the beginning or end.

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And usually the title tracks were either epic rock anthems (Planet Earth/Purple Rain style), epic ballads (Diamonds and Pearls), or fonky tracks that put the orgasm on you (Dirty Mind, Controversy, Lovesexy).

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Reply #2 posted 10/23/19 1:54am

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LoveGalore said:

Are you waiting for us to disagree with you?

I'll up the ante and say he put a great amount of effort into the structure of entire albums. Not just the flow of a tracklist, but having a title song usually as the first or last track, a quirky but killer track 2, a quirky or epic balled for the penultimate track (which usually meant the closer was extra funky for a ballad or a ballad following a quirky track).

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G'wan ahead and look at how he placed certain types of songs in a specific flow. Rarely did he ever change from title tracks at the beginning or end.

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And usually the title tracks were either epic rock anthems (Planet Earth/Purple Rain style), epic ballads (Diamonds and Pearls), or fonky tracks that put the orgasm on you (Dirty Mind, Controversy, Lovesexy).

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I'm not disagreeing with what you wrote, but I think you misread the OP's comment. You're talking about an entirely different subject than him. His comment had nothing to do with album sequencing or title tracks.

He was referencing the start of individual songs, not of albums. For instance, he mentioned When Doves Cry. I assume he means it starts off with that awesome guitar solo. When Doves Cry does not kick off the album, nor is it the title song.

The same is true of his other examples: Endorphin Machine, DMSR, etc. He's saying that specific song has a great intro, not that the song kicks off the album or is a title track (none of his examples fit those discriptions).

So you're both right, but you're talking about two different subjects.





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Reply #3 posted 10/23/19 2:50am

TheFman

DMSR? Sounds very common to me; no special intro. But of course, many other songs do have. But that's not anything specific Princey; most or many of the big names have great intro's. It's part of what makes them great.

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Reply #4 posted 10/23/19 2:57am

LoveGalore

lurker316 said:



LoveGalore said:


Are you waiting for us to disagree with you?



I'll up the ante and say he put a great amount of effort into the structure of entire albums. Not just the flow of a tracklist, but having a title song usually as the first or last track, a quirky but killer track 2, a quirky or epic balled for the penultimate track (which usually meant the closer was extra funky for a ballad or a ballad following a quirky track).


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G'wan ahead and look at how he placed certain types of songs in a specific flow. Rarely did he ever change from title tracks at the beginning or end.


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And usually the title tracks were either epic rock anthems (Planet Earth/Purple Rain style), epic ballads (Diamonds and Pearls), or fonky tracks that put the orgasm on you (Dirty Mind, Controversy, Lovesexy).


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I'm not disagreeing with what you wrote, but I think you misread the OP's comment. You're talking about an entirely different subject than him. His comment had nothing to do with album sequencing or title tracks.

He was referencing the start of individual songs, not of albums. For instance, he mentioned When Doves Cry. I assume he means it starts off with that awesome guitar solo. When Doves Cry does not kick off the album, nor is it the title song.

The same is true of his other examples: Endorphin Machine, DMSR, etc. He's saying that specific song has a great intro, not that the song kicks off the album or is a title track (none of his examples fit those discriptions).

So you're both right, but you're talking about two different subjects.







I thought my first two sentences made it clear I was referring to a different subject.

His post alone doesn't really offer much of an entry point for discussion. Yes, he put a lot of effort into his songs, including intros, and the list is probably too numerous to name. Next subject?
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/19 3:09am

nextedition

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The intro of I know is amazing. Its one of the best beginnings of a Song ever.
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/19 3:11am

nextedition

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donnyenglish said:

Prince clearly put a lot of effort into the intros to his songs. So many of his songs have killer intros. Doves, Let's Work, Get It Up, Bell of St. Mark, 7779311, Stare, Endorphine Machine, DMSR, etc. Too many to name.


Lets work and 7779311 dont really have intros, its just a beat that starts, right? I dont think he put a lot of effort into them
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/19 3:25am

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Shhh and 1999 need to be added to the list.

RIP sad
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Reply #8 posted 10/23/19 3:46am

TheFman

Kiss is the first one that comes to mind.

The first note of Purple Rain.

Let's go crazy doesn't fit in the 'intro' category, as it's more an epilogue or something.

Pop life is nice, ATWIAD works - but both aren't in the 'memorable' category.

Do U lie is actually pretty neat.

Get Off is memorable.

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Reply #9 posted 10/23/19 4:55am

donnyenglish

nextedition said:

donnyenglish said:

Prince clearly put a lot of effort into the intros to his songs. So many of his songs have killer intros. Doves, Let's Work, Get It Up, Bell of St. Mark, 7779311, Stare, Endorphine Machine, DMSR, etc. Too many to name.

Lets work and 7779311 dont really have intros, its just a beat that starts, right? I dont think he put a lot of effort into them

Let's Work really stands out to me. I count the bass line in the intro. He kinda of rehashed it on the Gold Standard in a way that only he can. 777 stands out to me because it is so unique with the drums and then how everything else comes in. There are so many more great intros, but I just named a few that stood out to me.

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Reply #10 posted 10/23/19 5:00am

kindofblue

I like the a capella intros a lot, like 7, Thunder, Violet The Organ Grinder. And that includes the scream to Gett Off.

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Reply #11 posted 10/23/19 5:02am

donnyenglish

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Shhh and 1999 need to be added to the list.

Definitely. Kiss and I'm Yours too He has many intros that grab you from the start instead of building up.

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Reply #12 posted 10/23/19 5:04am

donnyenglish

LoveGalore said:

Are you waiting for us to disagree with you?

I'll up the ante and say he put a great amount of effort into the structure of entire albums. Not just the flow of a tracklist, but having a title song usually as the first or last track, a quirky but killer track 2, a quirky or epic balled for the penultimate track (which usually meant the closer was extra funky for a ballad or a ballad following a quirky track).

.

G'wan ahead and look at how he placed certain types of songs in a specific flow. Rarely did he ever change from title tracks at the beginning or end.

.

And usually the title tracks were either epic rock anthems (Planet Earth/Purple Rain style), epic ballads (Diamonds and Pearls), or fonky tracks that put the orgasm on you (Dirty Mind, Controversy, Lovesexy).

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I agree that he put a lot of thought into the structure of his albums. There are a few where that was missing like some of the NPGMC releases.

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Reply #13 posted 10/23/19 5:50am

dodger

The first two that spring to mind are Shhh and the NPG version of Love...Thy Will Be Done

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Reply #14 posted 10/23/19 8:03am

Genesia

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You wanna talk about insanely good intros? Try Condition of the Heart and When the Lights Go Down.

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Reply #15 posted 10/23/19 8:04am

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The OP is clearly talking about song intro's?

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You can go ahead a create your own topic on what you posted.

LoveGalore said:

Are you waiting for us to disagree with you?

I'll up the ante and say he put a great amount of effort into the structure of entire albums. Not just the flow of a tracklist, but having a title song usually as the first or last track, a quirky but killer track 2, a quirky or epic balled for the penultimate track (which usually meant the closer was extra funky for a ballad or a ballad following a quirky track).

.

G'wan ahead and look at how he placed certain types of songs in a specific flow. Rarely did he ever change from title tracks at the beginning or end.

.

And usually the title tracks were either epic rock anthems (Planet Earth/Purple Rain style), epic ballads (Diamonds and Pearls), or fonky tracks that put the orgasm on you (Dirty Mind, Controversy, Lovesexy).

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#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #16 posted 10/23/19 8:07am

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Power Fantastic Intro

I Wonder U

if the piano prelude-soloing on Condition of the Heart is an intro then this one too

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #17 posted 10/23/19 8:28am

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Although "The 1 U Wanna C" never gets much love, it's got one of the hardest-grabbing intros that I know of. I really love it, especially the slap bass.

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Reply #18 posted 10/23/19 8:35am

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Genesia said:

You wanna talk about insanely good intros? Try Condition of the Heart and When the Lights Go Down.

When The Lights Go Down is so underrated.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #19 posted 10/23/19 8:37am

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nextedition said:

donnyenglish said:

Prince clearly put a lot of effort into the intros to his songs. So many of his songs have killer intros. Doves, Let's Work, Get It Up, Bell of St. Mark, 7779311, Stare, Endorphine Machine, DMSR, etc. Too many to name.

Lets work and 7779311 dont really have intros, its just a beat that starts, right? I dont think he put a lot of effort into them

Sheeeeit...777-9311 is a badass intro music wise

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #20 posted 10/23/19 8:37am

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The Dance ..very dramatic, like aww shit, some shits about to happen lol.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #21 posted 10/23/19 8:47am

LoveGalore

OldFriends4Sale said:

The OP is clearly talking about song intro's

.

You can go ahead a create your own topic on what you posted.

LoveGalore said:

Are you waiting for us to disagree with you?

I'll up the ante and say he put a great amount of effort into the structure of entire albums. Not just the flow of a tracklist, but having a title song usually as the first or last track, a quirky but killer track 2, a quirky or epic balled for the penultimate track (which usually meant the closer was extra funky for a ballad or a ballad following a quirky track).

.

G'wan ahead and look at how he placed certain types of songs in a specific flow. Rarely did he ever change from title tracks at the beginning or end.

.

And usually the title tracks were either epic rock anthems (Planet Earth/Purple Rain style), epic ballads (Diamonds and Pearls), or fonky tracks that put the orgasm on you (Dirty Mind, Controversy, Lovesexy).

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[Edited 10/22/19 17:19pm]

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Reply #22 posted 10/23/19 8:53am

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rdhull said:

The Dance ..very dramatic, like aww shit, some shits about to happen lol.


Agreed.

I still like The Chocolate Invasion version the best, though - intro and all. All tentative and vulnerable.

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Reply #23 posted 10/23/19 9:03am

TheFman

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Power Fantastic Intro

absolutely belongs to the selected top intros of his!

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Reply #24 posted 10/23/19 10:22am

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I know a lot of people don't like it, but it's a track I love and it's got an awesome intro.

P Control

RIP sad
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Reply #25 posted 10/23/19 11:02am

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TheEnglishGent said:

I know a lot of people don't like it, but it's a track I love and it's got an awesome intro.

P Control

I love it too.

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Reply #26 posted 10/23/19 11:08am

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I know a lot of people don't like it, but it's a track I love and it's got an awesome intro.

P Control



Agree. Similar applies to My Name Is Prince for me
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Reply #27 posted 10/24/19 4:43am

donnyenglish

Nast Girl was always a crowd favorite when he did the sampler set. That one is in my top 3 intros. Makes me want to dance every time and I don't dance.

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Reply #28 posted 10/25/19 11:30am

RJP1205

Dearly Beloved, we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life.
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RJP1205 said:

Dearly Beloved, we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life.

THIS!
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