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Thread started 09/19/19 11:19am

Astasheiks

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Do Me Baby actually written by Andre Cymone?

Seems like Do Me Baby might have actually been written by Andre Cymone? hhhhmmm What u think?

"The final straw, according to many of Prince’s and André’s associates, came when Prince decided to dig up a song his partner had written back in 1979. “Do Me, Baby” originated from the same February 17, 1979 sessions as “If You Feel Like Dancin’,” “One Man Jam,” and early versions of André’s “Thrill You or Kill You” and Prince’s “I Feel for You”; at the time, however, it was unambiguously an André Cymone joint. “I had written it for a girlfriend,” Cymone recalled on a recent episode of the Dr. Funk Podcast, and had “forgot about the song” by the time he heard it again at a band rehearsal–introduced as a new composition by Prince (Funkenberry 2017).

“André called me up on that song,” recalled Pepé Willie, who had been present at its recording in 1979. “He said, ‘Hey, you remember I did it in New York?’ I said, ‘What, the slow jam?’ He said, ‘Yeah, well, Prince has taken it for his album’” (Hill 38). For Cymone, the sticking point seemed to have been less about Prince’s appropriation of the song–this was, after all, not the first time his friend had borrowed his licks–and more about his cavalier attitude toward the act. Terry Jackson, another mutual friend from the Grand Central days, told Hahn and Tiebert that André confronted Prince the first time he heard “Do Me, Baby” in rehearsal, asking, “Why are you doing this, man?” Prince responded bluntly: “Because I’m a star and you’re not” (Hahn 2017)."

https://princesongs.org/2...o-me-baby/

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Reply #1 posted 09/19/19 11:36am

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Bart is gonna kill you lol lol lol
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Reply #2 posted 09/19/19 11:51am

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You know damn well that story's been around for decades. Why you trolling so hard sometimes?

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Reply #3 posted 09/19/19 12:32pm

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https://www.princevault.c...o_Me,_Baby


The song was written by André Cymone, but credited to Prince.

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Reply #4 posted 09/19/19 3:28pm

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I bet P’s version is better though?
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Reply #5 posted 09/19/19 6:18pm

SoulAlive

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.
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Reply #6 posted 09/19/19 6:59pm

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SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

You nailed my it friend (you must be a true Funkateer)! I would be willing to bet money Andre ( and Prince) had heard that cut back in the day. Andre may have subconsciously stole it from Eddie and then Prince consciously stole it from Andre! lol Anyone that doesn't hear the similarities is deaf.

I remember my older brother playing this album all hours of the night when it first came out (we were true Maggot Brains)! Eddie Hazel was the man.

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Reply #7 posted 09/19/19 7:33pm

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Eddie Hazel's a name in all the guitar thread when people are going off, "Obviously directly influenced by Hendrix, OBVIOUSLY. No question. Hendrix all day." I'm thinking like uhh... He couldn't have just been a huge Eddie Hazel fanboy growing up?

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Reply #8 posted 09/20/19 12:55am

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BalladofPeterParker said:

SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

You nailed my it friend (you must be a true Funkateer)! I would be willing to bet money Andre ( and Prince) had heard that cut back in the day. Andre may have subconsciously stole it from Eddie and then Prince consciously stole it from Andre! lol Anyone that doesn't hear the similarities is deaf.

I remember my older brother playing this album all hours of the night when it first came out (we were true Maggot Brains)! Eddie Hazel was the man.

yep,I am a Funkateer and a huge fan of Eddie Hazel nod

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Reply #9 posted 09/20/19 11:11am

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Astasheiks said:

Seems like Do Me Baby might have actually been written by Andre Cymone? hhhhmmm What u think?

"The final straw, according to many of Prince’s and André’s associates, came when Prince decided to dig up a song his partner had written back in 1979. “Do Me, Baby” originated from the same February 17, 1979 sessions as “If You Feel Like Dancin’,” “One Man Jam,” and early versions of André’s “Thrill You or Kill You” and Prince’s “I Feel for You”; at the time, however, it was unambiguously an André Cymone joint. “I had written it for a girlfriend,” Cymone recalled on a recent episode of the Dr. Funk Podcast, and had “forgot about the song” by the time he heard it again at a band rehearsal–introduced as a new composition by Prince (Funkenberry 2017).

“André called me up on that song,” recalled Pepé Willie, who had been present at its recording in 1979. “He said, ‘Hey, you remember I did it in New York?’ I said, ‘What, the slow jam?’ He said, ‘Yeah, well, Prince has taken it for his album’” (Hill 38). For Cymone, the sticking point seemed to have been less about Prince’s appropriation of the song–this was, after all, not the first time his friend had borrowed his licks–and more about his cavalier attitude toward the act. Terry Jackson, another mutual friend from the Grand Central days, told Hahn and Tiebert that André confronted Prince the first time he heard “Do Me, Baby” in rehearsal, asking, “Why are you doing this, man?” Prince responded bluntly: “Because I’m a star and you’re not” (Hahn 2017)."

https://princesongs.org/2...o-me-baby/

I've heard this for years..Prince took Andre's song. I don't care...he more than proved how great a writer he was over the next 4 decades. Sheeeeeeet...he prob made it better.

hahah

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Reply #10 posted 09/21/19 11:38pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Eddie Hazel's a name in all the guitar thread when people are going off, "Obviously directly influenced by Hendrix, OBVIOUSLY. No question. Hendrix all day." I'm thinking like uhh... He couldn't have just been a huge Eddie Hazel fanboy growing up?

Speaking as a guitar player, I honestly don't think so tbh. Clearly both loved their high-gain tone but the style is so different. I love the P-Funk mob and Eddie's playing too, but he's just so different from Prince. Clearly Prince listened to all sorts growing up, and you can hear THAT in his playing. Even his rhythm parts feel like a mad cocktail mixture of lots of thing of the era, not just the usual lazy James Brown band comparisons.

Maybe time for us all to start living with the fact that Prince isn't easily comparable to another lead guitarist smile

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Reply #11 posted 09/23/19 11:44am

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SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.



hell yeah... its so obvious
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Reply #12 posted 09/23/19 12:03pm

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JoeyCococo said:

Astasheiks said:

Seems like Do Me Baby might have actually been written by Andre Cymone? hhhhmmm What u think?

"The final straw, according to many of Prince’s and André’s associates, came when Prince decided to dig up a song his partner had written back in 1979. “Do Me, Baby” originated from the same February 17, 1979 sessions as “If You Feel Like Dancin’,” “One Man Jam,” and early versions of André’s “Thrill You or Kill You” and Prince’s “I Feel for You”; at the time, however, it was unambiguously an André Cymone joint. “I had written it for a girlfriend,” Cymone recalled on a recent episode of the Dr. Funk Podcast, and had “forgot about the song” by the time he heard it again at a band rehearsal–introduced as a new composition by Prince (Funkenberry 2017).

“André called me up on that song,” recalled Pepé Willie, who had been present at its recording in 1979. “He said, ‘Hey, you remember I did it in New York?’ I said, ‘What, the slow jam?’ He said, ‘Yeah, well, Prince has taken it for his album’” (Hill 38). For Cymone, the sticking point seemed to have been less about Prince’s appropriation of the song–this was, after all, not the first time his friend had borrowed his licks–and more about his cavalier attitude toward the act. Terry Jackson, another mutual friend from the Grand Central days, told Hahn and Tiebert that André confronted Prince the first time he heard “Do Me, Baby” in rehearsal, asking, “Why are you doing this, man?” Prince responded bluntly: “Because I’m a star and you’re not” (Hahn 2017)."

https://princesongs.org/2...o-me-baby/

I've heard this for years..Prince took Andre's song. I don't care...he more than proved how great a writer he was over the next 4 decades. Sheeeeeeet...he prob made it better.

hahah

Do Me Baby is THE SONG BECAUSE OF PRINCE.......if not, who would care?

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Reply #13 posted 09/23/19 2:11pm

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SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

"borrowed"? Shit is note 4 note.

I pointed that out here on the org and mofo's lost their minds calling me a liar.

[Edited 9/23/19 14:12pm]

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Reply #14 posted 09/23/19 2:56pm

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Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

"borrowed"? Shit is note 4 note.

I pointed that out here on the org and mofo's lost their minds calling me a liar.

[Edited 9/23/19 14:12pm]

I've just listened to both back to back? What the fuck are you talking about?

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Reply #15 posted 09/23/19 3:34pm

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TwiliteKid said:



Graycap23 said:




SoulAlive said:


*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

"borrowed"? Shit is note 4 note.


I pointed that out here on the org and mofo's lost their minds calling me a liar.


[Edited 9/23/19 14:12pm]




I've just listened to both back to back? What the fuck are you talking about?




if you cant hear it, then you clearly didnt listen to both songs back to back
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Reply #16 posted 09/23/19 3:46pm

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Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

"borrowed"? Shit is note 4 note.

I pointed that out here on the org and mofo's lost their minds calling me a liar.

[Edited 9/23/19 14:12pm]


Listening to it now. Definitely hear the chords in the beginning. They are so quiet, though. Surprising that anyone could identify it.

[Edited 9/23/19 15:47pm]

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Reply #17 posted 09/23/19 4:42pm

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SoulAlive said:

*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

Interesting hmmm the song reminds me somewhat of "Alright" by Zapp & Roger too.

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Reply #18 posted 09/23/19 5:11pm

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RJOrion said:

TwiliteKid said:



Graycap23 said:




SoulAlive said:


*Whoever* wrote this song may have borrowed the melody from Eddie Hazel’s 1977 song “Frantic Moment”.

"borrowed"? Shit is note 4 note.


I pointed that out here on the org and mofo's lost their minds calling me a liar.


[Edited 9/23/19 14:12pm]




I've just listened to both back to back? What the fuck are you talking about?




if you cant hear it, then you clearly didnt listen to both songs back to back


Which instrument is carrying this melody?
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Reply #19 posted 09/23/19 10:06pm

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TwiliteKid said:

Graycap23 said:

"borrowed"? Shit is note 4 note.

I pointed that out here on the org and mofo's lost their minds calling me a liar.

[Edited 9/23/19 14:12pm]

I've just listened to both back to back? What the fuck are you talking about?

It isn't the entire song. There is a 10-15 second segment of the song that is note 4 note.

I'll have 2 take a listen again and let u know what part it is.

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Reply #20 posted 09/23/19 10:21pm

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My original post in 2006:

https://prince.org/msg/7/179066?&pg=1

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Reply #21 posted 09/24/19 6:16am

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Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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