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Thread started 09/17/19 4:59am

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are emancipation and chaos legacy releases remastered?

A question for anyone who has bought the cd versions of the legacy releases and had the old ones, have you noticed any diference sound wise between those and these? I don´t see any evidence of a remaster and would like to know it before buying them again

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Reply #1 posted 09/17/19 5:09am

ian

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On CD? Apparently they are unchanged from the originals. They are just re-issues.

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Reply #2 posted 09/17/19 9:00am

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No, they aren't. They're issued on vinyl for the first time and on purple vinyl. That's the selling point. Nothing is remastered.

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Reply #3 posted 09/17/19 4:34pm

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Multiple people were claiming in the old sticky that the Rave/3121/Musicology/Planet Earth LP reissues sound less compressed and/or "different," so I dunno as it relates to the Sony vinyl.

[Edited 9/17/19 16:34pm]

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Reply #4 posted 09/18/19 11:37am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Multiple people were claiming in the old sticky that the Rave/3121/Musicology/Planet Earth LP reissues sound less compressed and/or "different," so I dunno as it relates to the Sony vinyl.

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Reply #5 posted 09/18/19 1:19pm

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NO.
I have the planet earth Vinyl and it sounds garbage just like the original CD release.
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This is even highly doubtful they got the originals files for the artwork.
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Reply #6 posted 09/20/19 12:23pm

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RODSERLING said:

NO. I have the planet earth Vinyl and it sounds garbage just like the original CD release. . This is even highly doubtful they got the originals files for the artwork.

If your vinyl copy sounds like garbage you should have returned it for a replacement.

There were known to be some faulty copies... but the pressing overall was much MUCH better than the brickwalled original CD.

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Reply #7 posted 09/21/19 2:12am

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leadline said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Multiple people were claiming in the old sticky that the Rave/3121/Musicology/Planet Earth LP reissues sound less compressed and/or "different," so I dunno as it relates to the Sony vinyl.

[Edited 9/17/19 16:34pm]


Psychosomatic

I can dig it, but I wish we could get some waveforms to be sure. It would be really easy to tell if they just took those CD brickwalls and pressed them to vinyl.

[Edited 9/21/19 2:12am]

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Reply #8 posted 09/21/19 3:50am

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I’m listening to chaos and Disorder now on vinyl and it sounds pretty great! And better to me!
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Reply #9 posted 09/21/19 5:37am

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My understanding is that labels make different masters for different formats, so if they did the work seriously they should have made a vinyl master for those albums that were never released on vinyl before. Now did they? IDK. And does that qualify as a "remaster"? I guess not, since it's a new master for a new format, not a new master for a similar format.

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Reply #10 posted 09/21/19 5:49am

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Rimshottbob said:

RODSERLING said:

NO. I have the planet earth Vinyl and it sounds garbage just like the original CD release. . This is even highly doubtful they got the originals files for the artwork.

If your vinyl copy sounds like garbage you should have returned it for a replacement.

There were known to be some faulty copies... but the pressing overall was much MUCH better than the brickwalled original CD.


Chaos And Disorder sounds better than the CD and 3121 sounds MUCHMUCHMUCH better than the CD. As Rimshottbob says, the discs are brickwalled, the LPs are not.

For that matter, Originals also sounds waaaaaaaaay better than the CD for the same reasons.

Haven't compared the rest.

This is not "psychosomatic". This is fact.

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Reply #11 posted 09/21/19 1:05pm

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djThunderfunk said:

Rimshottbob said:

If your vinyl copy sounds like garbage you should have returned it for a replacement.

There were known to be some faulty copies... but the pressing overall was much MUCH better than the brickwalled original CD.


Chaos And Disorder sounds better than the CD and 3121 sounds MUCHMUCHMUCH better than the CD. As Rimshottbob says, the discs are brickwalled, the LPs are not.

For that matter, Originals also sounds waaaaaaaaay better than the CD for the same reasons.

Haven't compared the rest.

This is not "psychosomatic". This is fact.

Yeah, saying this is 'psychosomatic' is nonsense, insulting and just plain wrong.

Emancipation, Chaos & Disorder, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic, Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic.

The original CD pressings of these albums were all brickwalled. They all sound like shit. GET IT? When you were originally sold these albums, you were sold music that had ACTUALLY BEEN DAMAGED sonically before you got it.

The vinyl masters made for these same releases are different. The music is not brickwalled. It is undamaged in the way the original CDs were. That's why I keep saying that the vinyl editions of these albums are the BEST WAY to hear these albums - the closest way there is of hearing them as they were supposed to be heard.

And seperately, yes, Originals also sounds great in the vinyl mastering that has been produced, and crap, thin and harsh in the CD/online version.

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Reply #12 posted 09/21/19 11:29pm

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Yes, the vinyl re-issues of course have been mastered for vinyl, so sound different.

The OP was asking about the CD releases, which have not been re-mastered.

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Reply #13 posted 09/22/19 12:23pm

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ian said:

Yes, the vinyl re-issues of course have been mastered for vinyl, so sound different.

The OP was asking about the CD releases, which have not been re-mastered.

Yeah.

And several others in the thread have mentioned the vinyl editions.

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