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Reply #30 posted 08/31/19 12:54pm

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The movie Purple Rain

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Reply #31 posted 08/31/19 1:28pm

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I was at that show too. I gotta say if I think about that opening too long, I get teary... sad
Great that you both got to attend this concert. I have to say, whether or not he legit got teary, and despite an incoherent Amy W, his guitar playing on this song makes me teary. It’s a beautiful song and melody (Love is a Losing Game). How Prince can interpret the sadness of this song via this achingly beautiful guitar solo just leaves me in awe. It’s as if his guitar is speaking. So impressive...

You weren't the only one in awe. The look on Amy's face as he played was one of complete awe. A great show with an amazing opening. When the curtain went back and she was standing there I got goose bumps. It was an awesome night and a fantastic way to end an absolutely amazing summer of shows.

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Reply #32 posted 08/31/19 2:22pm

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Solemn Melancholy. When I think of Prince in my head, my inner voice, refers to him as Solemn Melancholy, because I would talk to him during the wee hours, and that would be his mood, you know? I never could wrap my head around how much of this was natural to him, and how much of it was stress, or pain, or whatever? Is the joyous bubbly Prince his natural state or is this other thing? I was never sure.

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Both are valid natural states that coexist in the same person, if you let them. Each twin feeds the other.


True and the thing about Prince... no matter what.. there will be a contrast. He is without effort always of two minds.


Thank you for posting this. Solemn Melancholy is such a poetic way to express your understanding of those personal conversations.

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Reply #33 posted 08/31/19 2:52pm

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How emotional was he at the first Piano & a Microphone show in Melbourne after Vanity died?

It's largely reported that he was very emotional that night. Many of the fans who was actually there said he was really emotional and crying. There's so many articles and comments out there about how emotional he was, but here's an article from The Herald Sun that sums it up and Dr Funkenberry posts about it and some of the fans comments who were there to see the show.

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They had such a bond; both spiritual beings. She loved him.

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Reply #34 posted 08/31/19 3:47pm

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The Breakdown - Montreux 2013

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Reply #35 posted 08/31/19 4:31pm

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There have been so many people coming out of the woodwork and telling Prince stories since his passing. Has anyone of them mentioned this? Morris Hayes talked about Prince at his front door on his knees thanking him for his friendship; I can't remember if he said Prince got teary-eyed. I'm just curious. Don't chop me up people of the Org.

hey klick, ive never heard of this story can you send me the source? Also when was this?

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Reply #36 posted 08/31/19 11:03pm

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Dilan said:



klick2me said:


There have been so many people coming out of the woodwork and telling Prince stories since his passing. Has anyone of them mentioned this? Morris Hayes talked about Prince at his front door on his knees thanking him for his friendship; I can't remember if he said Prince got teary-eyed. I'm just curious. Don't chop me up people of the Org.



hey klick, ive never heard of this story can you send me the source? Also when was this?


https://www.abc.net.au/do...n/10266132
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Reply #37 posted 08/31/19 11:28pm

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At the very first P&M show at Paisley Park I was there in the front row and he shed a tear over the passing of David Bowie. He said something long the lines that he met him once and he was "nice to me...seems like he was nice to everybody...peace to David Bowie" and I distincly saw him wipe a tear from his face. Others in the crowd saw it as well. Very touching tribute.

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Reply #38 posted 09/01/19 9:02am

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mediumdry said:

Of course, most of us have only seen him during performances. That means that you are in a very concentrated state. And there are many things in such a performance that are put in there to seem spontaneous. Prince used to drill his bands to the point of being able to look spontaneous with choreographed things.

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Showing emotion is a time-tested way of making a show more special for the audience.

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Not saying Prince faked it often, but he did have acting lessons and was a very good performed, using all kinds of tricks.

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All that to say that it is very difficult to be certain that emotion that is shown is "real".

I've see him "stage" his emotion many times & always felt it was corny & unecessary.

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Reply #39 posted 09/01/19 10:35am

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I feel Prince was an emotional, passionate fellow at heart. One needs to be patient and wait for his

'moments' where he is less guarded.

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Reply #40 posted 09/01/19 11:32am

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delirious said:

At the very first P&M show at Paisley Park I was there in the front row and he shed a tear over the passing of David Bowie. He said something long the lines that he met him once and he was "nice to me...seems like he was nice to everybody...peace to David Bowie" and I distincly saw him wipe a tear from his face. Others in the crowd saw it as well. Very touching tribute.

I think he let his guard down a bit more in the 2-3 years prior to his death. He seemed to be wiping away tears after his performance of Breakdown at Montreux in 2013. He called for "lights OFF" on stage multiple times. I don't think he wanted the audience to know he had become so emotional.

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Reply #41 posted 09/01/19 3:55pm

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PeggyO said:

I feel Prince was an emotional, passionate fellow at heart. One needs to be patient and wait for his

'moments' where he is less guarded.

I agree. I know he had this image of being cool, confident, mysterious and stoic but he was still human afterall.

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Reply #42 posted 09/02/19 4:53am

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He defintely cared about what people (his fans) thought about his music right up to the end... The last small club I saw him in during 2014--he played two back to back concerts ( eek) with hardly a break... Waited until most people left...but I knew to wait. wink Then he had Third Eye Girl introduce some new songs that he was going to release (one of those was The Breakdown) played over the speakers... There weren't many people left in the venue...but I saw Prince peep around the curtain to see how people were reacting to the new songs. He was always about music...and totally cared how they were received by his listeners...

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Reply #43 posted 09/02/19 6:58am

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He defintely cared about what people (his fans) thought about his music right up to the end... The last small club I saw him in during 2014--he played two back to back concerts ( eek) with hardly a break... Waited until most people left...but I knew to wait. wink Then he had Third Eye Girl introduce some new songs that he was going to release (one of those was The Breakdown) played over the speakers... There weren't many people left in the venue...but I saw Prince peep around the curtain to see how people were reacting to the new songs. He was always about music...and totally cared how they were received by his listeners...

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Thanks for sharing. Was Third Eye Girl live- playing or was it a recording? I was asking as I was wondering who was singing The Breakdown if he was peering around the curtain?

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Reply #44 posted 09/02/19 3:58pm

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muchtoofast said:

Dilan said:

hey klick, ive never heard of this story can you send me the source? Also when was this?

https://www.abc.net.au/do...n/10266132

it doesnt say he got on his knees and cried, its says he came to the door..

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Reply #45 posted 09/03/19 6:38am

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mediumdry said:

Of course, most of us have only seen him during performances. That means that you are in a very concentrated state. And there are many things in such a performance that are put in there to seem spontaneous. Prince used to drill his bands to the point of being able to look spontaneous with choreographed things.

.

Showing emotion is a time-tested way of making a show more special for the audience.

.

Not saying Prince faked it often, but he did have acting lessons and was a very good performed, using all kinds of tricks.

.

All that to say that it is very difficult to be certain that emotion that is shown is "real".

Yes, but he never wanted to show vulnerability, and crying is the ultimate emotionally vulnerable state. Very hard to fake that, and he rarely showed that on stage. I mentioned that '87 1st Ave performance of FIML which seems authentic, but when you watch the SOTT film which they shot several months later you can see he's clearly faking the emotion when playing the song. He acts like he's wiping away tears, but of course there are no tears, because it wasn't spontaneous or "in the moment".

He's not faking emotion there. When he screams like he does during that song (or any others), that really gut wrenching, high-pitched scream is so demanding on the vocal cords that it makes his eyes water up. A lot of singers expeience this side effect but Cat confirmed it years ago in a chance encounter I had with her.

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Reply #46 posted 09/03/19 2:23pm

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didnt he say when his father threw him out and he wasn the phone with him crying ..that was the last time he cried

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Reply #47 posted 09/03/19 2:28pm

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Dilan said:



muchtoofast said:


Dilan said:




hey klick, ive never heard of this story can you send me the source? Also when was this?



https://www.abc.net.au/do...n/10266132


it doesnt say he got on his knees and cried, its says he came to the door..



I've been trying to find the video. Give me some time. Morris mentioned he knelt down, thanking him for his friendship. I believe he was holding his hand as well. I've heard Morris talk about this a couple of times.
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Reply #48 posted 09/03/19 2:35pm

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klick2me said:

Dilan said:



muchtoofast said:


Dilan said:




hey klick, ive never heard of this story can you send me the source? Also when was this?



https://www.abc.net.au/do...n/10266132


it doesnt say he got on his knees and cried, its says he came to the door..



I've been trying to find the video. Give me some time. Morris mentioned he knelt down, thanking him for his friendship. I believe he was holding his hand as well. I've heard Morris talk about this a couple of times.


Ok, found it.

https://youtu.be/YQPRq745fHE
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Reply #49 posted 09/03/19 2:43pm

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didnt he say when his father threw him out and he wasn the phone with him crying ..that was the last time he cried


That might be true - IF you believe anything anybody ever says.

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Reply #50 posted 09/03/19 4:59pm

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PeggyO said:

During Patti La Belle's performance of Purple Rain at the 2010 BET lifetime achievement awards.

He was standing and holding back tears. She really sang it well.

are you sure? I didn't think she did it well, she messed up in the build

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Reply #51 posted 09/03/19 5:09pm

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PeggyO said:

During Patti La Belle's performance of Purple Rain at the 2010 BET lifetime achievement awards.

He was standing and holding back tears. She really sang it well.

are you sure? I didn't think she did it well, she messed up in the build

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Reply #52 posted 09/03/19 6:57pm

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PeggyO said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

are you sure? I didn't think she did it well, she messed up in the build

He did seem 'emotional' at the end, though I think you're right...maybe he was wincing!

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Reply #53 posted 09/03/19 6:57pm

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He said in an interview, he and Mayte cried on their wedding night and got down on their knees and thanked God for this time in their life.
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Reply #54 posted 09/03/19 7:54pm

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Across the street from McDonald’s, Prince spies a smaller landmark. He points to a vacant corner phone booth and remembers a teenage fight with a strict and unforgiving father. “That’s where I called my dad and begged him to take me back after he kicked me out,” he begins softly. “He said no, so I called my sister and asked her to ask him. So she did, and afterward told me that all I had to do was call him back, tell him I was sorry, and he’d take me back. So I did, and he still said no. I sat crying at that phone booth for two hours. That’s the last time I cried.”


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Reply #55 posted 09/04/19 6:48am

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Across the street from McDonald’s, Prince spies a smaller landmark. He points to a vacant corner phone booth and remembers a teenage fight with a strict and unforgiving father. “That’s where I called my dad and begged him to take me back after he kicked me out,” he begins softly. “He said no, so I called my sister and asked her to ask him. So she did, and afterward told me that all I had to do was call him back, tell him I was sorry, and he’d take me back. So I did, and he still said no. I sat crying at that phone booth for two hours. That’s the last time I cried.”


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He was 27 when he said that. He lived 30 more years.

No doubt it was a pivotal moment for him becoming an adult. It fits the steeling of yourself as your own person on life's journey. But I don't think he never cried again. Maybe he never cried like that again. There are different kinds of crying. Most of us cry in grief when a loved one passes, even if no one sees us.

Reading the recent New Yorker article by the person he chose to be his co-biographer really makes me think his book would have been from a much different life perspective. He was still working out what he wanted the thrust of the book to to be. I wish he had the time to write it. Even for himself.

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Reply #56 posted 09/04/19 4:07pm

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cb70 said:



violetcrush said:




mediumdry said:


Of course, most of us have only seen him during performances. That means that you are in a very concentrated state. And there are many things in such a performance that are put in there to seem spontaneous. Prince used to drill his bands to the point of being able to look spontaneous with choreographed things.


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Showing emotion is a time-tested way of making a show more special for the audience.


.


Not saying Prince faked it often, but he did have acting lessons and was a very good performed, using all kinds of tricks.


.


All that to say that it is very difficult to be certain that emotion that is shown is "real".




Yes, but he never wanted to show vulnerability, and crying is the ultimate emotionally vulnerable state. Very hard to fake that, and he rarely showed that on stage. I mentioned that '87 1st Ave performance of FIML which seems authentic, but when you watch the SOTT film which they shot several months later you can see he's clearly faking the emotion when playing the song. He acts like he's wiping away tears, but of course there are no tears, because it wasn't spontaneous or "in the moment".




He's not faking emotion there. When he screams like he does during that song (or any others), that really gut wrenching, high-pitched scream is so demanding on the vocal cords that it makes his eyes water up. A lot of singers expeience this side effect but Cat confirmed it years ago in a chance encounter I had with her.


No, you misunderstood me. I meant he was faking the emotion during the filming of the SOTT film, because they were lip syncing to a recording from one of the European shows. I’m sure he was emotional during the actual live show - just like he was during the 1st Ave try-out gig on 3/87. You can tell that he’s not really crying in the movie though.
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Reply #57 posted 09/05/19 12:25am

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poppys said:

benni said:

Across the street from McDonald’s, Prince spies a smaller landmark. He points to a vacant corner phone booth and remembers a teenage fight with a strict and unforgiving father. “That’s where I called my dad and begged him to take me back after he kicked me out,” he begins softly. “He said no, so I called my sister and asked her to ask him. So she did, and afterward told me that all I had to do was call him back, tell him I was sorry, and he’d take me back. So I did, and he still said no. I sat crying at that phone booth for two hours. That’s the last time I cried.”


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He was 27 when he said that. He lived 30 more years.

No doubt it was a pivotal moment for him becoming an adult. It fits the steeling of yourself as your own person on life's journey. But I don't think he never cried again. Maybe he never cried like that again. There are different kinds of crying. Most of us cry in grief when a loved one passes, even if no one sees us.

Reading the recent New Yorker article by the person he chose to be his co-biographer really makes me think his book would have been from a much different life perspective. He was still working out what he wanted the thrust of the book to to be. I wish he had the time to write it. Even for himself.


True. But in a situation like that, speaking from my own experience (not Prince's) when you get that hurt by something, that kind of a cry is a gut wrenching, soul clenching cry. It's the kind of cry where your legs can't support your weight any more, the pain is that intense. I'm sure he probably "cried" after that, but when you've had that kind of cry, from that kind of pain, you don't ever let yourself get back to that point. For the longest time, I wouldn't cry after crying like that. I held back my emotions, shut them down. I could experience the emotions, I could feel them, but when I shut down, they weren't as intense. I might get teary eyed, but I wouldn't cry. It took a long time before I ever really cried again, but never to that intensity.

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