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Reply #30 posted 02/28/19 1:09pm

ufoclub

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iZsaZsa said:

Or, rather, ask Bart about Carmen. He used to get teased about her back in the day.


Bart?

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Reply #31 posted 02/28/19 1:26pm

iZsaZsa

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ufoclub said:

iZsaZsa said:

Or, rather, ask Bart about Carmen. He used to get teased about her back in the day.


Bart?

VanHemelen.

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Reply #32 posted 02/28/19 2:05pm

ufoclub

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iZsaZsa said:

ufoclub said:


Bart?

VanHemelen.

Bart gets his info from books and articles (which are often inaccurate). There's people online that actually worked for Prince and were there.

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Reply #33 posted 02/28/19 2:08pm

laytonian

dodger said:

iZsaZsa said:



TrivialPursuit said:




iZsaZsa said:


Alan said why...



"Meanwhile, you’re spending millions of dollars on a girlfriend who can’t sing!”

That means Prince was whipped. And you cannot reason with a man like that, even telling him he's the only one who thinks she's great. Or, rather, ask Bart about Carmen. He used to get teased about her back in the day.





He wasn't whipped by her, but he was constantly blinded by a good piece. lol



lol I've heard that she blinded him out of a million bucks.



Yes people speculated that line in I Hate U Remix was about that

He put that young pussy on a pedestal that’s for sure


"A million 8"
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Reply #34 posted 02/28/19 2:22pm

iZsaZsa

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ufoclub said:



iZsaZsa said:




ufoclub said:




Bart?



VanHemelen.



Bart gets his info from books and articles (which are often inaccurate). There's people online that actually worked for Prince and were there.


No, I mean about being Carmen’s biggest fan on the Org. lol
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Reply #35 posted 02/28/19 2:24pm

iZsaZsa

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laytonian said:

dodger said:



Yes people speculated that line in I Hate U Remix was about that

He put that young pussy on a pedestal that’s for sure


"A million 8"
😲

That’s not whipped? lol
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Reply #36 posted 02/28/19 2:30pm

ufoclub

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iZsaZsa said:

ufoclub said:

Bart gets his info from books and articles (which are often inaccurate). There's people online that actually worked for Prince and were there.

No, I mean about being Carmen’s biggest fan on the Org. lol

oh... lol

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Reply #37 posted 02/28/19 3:15pm

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Reply #38 posted 02/28/19 3:40pm

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iZsaZsa said:

laytonian said:



"A million 8"
😲

That’s not whipped? lol


I guarantee most of his protégés and girlfriends owed him "a million 8" or more when they left. smile
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Reply #39 posted 02/28/19 4:08pm

TrivialPursuit

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iZsaZsa said:

ufoclub said:

Bart gets his info from books and articles (which are often inaccurate). There's people online that actually worked for Prince and were there.

No, I mean about being Carmen’s biggest fan on the Org. lol


I must have missed this over the years on a.m.p. and the Org. But if that's true, I'm LOLing like never before. His penchant for being an insufferable bore is only magnified with his defense of Carmen Electra's "music".

Y'all know he's spanked it to videos of Carmen, right?

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Reply #40 posted 02/28/19 4:54pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

iZsaZsa said:

ufoclub said: No, I mean about being Carmen’s biggest fan on the Org. lol


I must have missed this over the years on a.m.p. and the Org. But if that's true, I'm LOLing like never before. His penchant for being an insufferable bore is only magnified with his defense of Carmen Electra's "music".

Y'all know he's spanked it to videos of Carmen, right?

I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol

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Reply #41 posted 02/28/19 6:06pm

violetcrush

iZsaZsa said:



TrivialPursuit said:




iZsaZsa said:


ufoclub said: No, I mean about being Carmen’s biggest fan on the Org. lol


I must have missed this over the years on a.m.p. and the Org. But if that's true, I'm LOLing like never before. His penchant for being an insufferable bore is only magnified with his defense of Carmen Electra's "music".

Y'all know he's spanked it to videos of Carmen, right?



I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol


What they saw in her is the same as what Hugh Hefner and all of the Playboy mag customers, and the Baywatch producers saw in her - a pretty piece of T (well after the boob job) and A biggrin
[Edited 2/28/19 18:09pm]
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Reply #42 posted 02/28/19 9:27pm

eugenius

This guy had the opportunity to ask Chavez a question about the night she met Prince for the first time he took her to Paisley Park, goofed up on goofballs, and didn't even broach the subject?

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That was Prince's crossroads moment: Had he been able to handle his high, The Black Album would have been released and he would have continued in the trajectory he was headed in. Except he had a bad trip and his music gradually became predictible and safe.

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This guy dropped the ball. Maybe she wouldn't have answered in full (although she's spoken on the subject before), but he could've given it a shot.

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Reply #43 posted 02/28/19 9:32pm

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iZsaZsa said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I must have missed this over the years on a.m.p. and the Org. But if that's true, I'm LOLing like never before. His penchant for being an insufferable bore is only magnified with his defense of Carmen Electra's "music".

Y'all know he's spanked it to videos of Carmen, right?

I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol

I don't see any power in her as a musical artist really, but I don't see much power in most of the singers/rappers that reach the top of the charts either. Crap sells if it's well packaged.

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Reply #44 posted 02/28/19 9:34pm

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ufoclub said:

iZsaZsa said:

VanHemelen.

Bart gets his info from books and articles (which are often inaccurate). There's people online that actually worked for Prince and were there.

For all his lack of manners, Bart actually provides a lot of useful info. Sources are what they are, they're not always accurate but it's up to us to figure out what's true and what's inaccurate.

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Reply #45 posted 02/28/19 10:37pm

dodger

iZsaZsa said:



TrivialPursuit said:




iZsaZsa said:


ufoclub said: No, I mean about being Carmen’s biggest fan on the Org. lol


I must have missed this over the years on a.m.p. and the Org. But if that's true, I'm LOLing like never before. His penchant for being an insufferable bore is only magnified with his defense of Carmen Electra's "music".

Y'all know he's spanked it to videos of Carmen, right?



I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol



Didn’t we all see the power.

SHE IS THE SCARIEST FEMALE ON THE PLANET...
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Reply #46 posted 02/28/19 11:05pm

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dodger said:

iZsaZsa said:

I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol

Didn’t we all see the power. SHE IS THE SCARIEST FEMALE ON THE PLANET...

I was actually so disappointed because of this.

I was only 15 and really impressed by this video teaser with all those slogans at the D&P Tour, then prince got released and it blew my mind so I really expected CE to be another epic record.

Then came 1993 and I purchased it and at that stage I'd never heard a note of it because I hadn't seen the Ryde Dyvine or the first music video yet, so my expectations were still high. After a minute of Go-Go Dancer I was like WTF??!!! Then came Good Judy GF and by that point I was really depressed. Most of the album grew on me eventually, but it still was such a disappointment.

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Reply #47 posted 03/01/19 3:19am

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violetcrush said:

iZsaZsa said:

I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol

What they saw in her is the same as what Hugh Hefner and all of the Playboy mag customers, and the Baywatch producers saw in her - a pretty piece of T (well after the boob job) and A biggrin [Edited 2/28/19 18:09pm]

Now I wonder if I gave Carmen a chance.

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Reply #48 posted 03/01/19 3:24am

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dodger said:

iZsaZsa said:

I was saying to Databank that Bart saw in Carmen what Prince saw in Carmen. And in post #20 of this thread I noticed Data sees the power in her too. Whatever it was is why Alan inherited Ingrid, and went off. lol

Didn’t we all see the power. SHE IS THE SCARIEST FEMALE ON THE PLANET...

That means every man wants her, and every woman wants to be her, right?

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Reply #49 posted 03/01/19 3:28am

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databank said:

dodger said:

iZsaZsa said: Didn’t we all see the power. SHE IS THE SCARIEST FEMALE ON THE PLANET...

I was actually so disappointed because of this.

I was only 15 and really impressed by this video teaser with all those slogans at the D&P Tour, then prince got released and it blew my mind so I really expected CE to be another epic record.

Then came 1993 and I purchased it and at that stage I'd never heard a note of it because I hadn't seen the Ryde Dyvine or the first music video yet, so my expectations were still high. After a minute of Go-Go Dancer I was like WTF??!!! Then came Good Judy GF and by that point I was really depressed. Most of the album grew on me eventually, but it still was such a disappointment.

Are we calling her a bad singer or a good rapper?

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Reply #50 posted 03/01/19 3:49am

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iZsaZsa said:

dodger said:

iZsaZsa said: Didn’t we all see the power. SHE IS THE SCARIEST FEMALE ON THE PLANET...

That means every man wants her, and every woman wants to be her, right?

Prince also said 'SHE IS THE FUTURE, SHE IS ADDICTIVE' so it's a yes from me

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Reply #51 posted 03/01/19 3:59am

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dodger said:

iZsaZsa said:

That means every man wants her, and every woman wants to be her, right?

Prince also said 'SHE IS THE FUTURE, SHE IS ADDICTIVE' so it's a yes from me

Maybe Prince was right about her. At the 1:11 mark she sounds good. And I think she stands out of the Dolls.

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Reply #52 posted 03/01/19 4:14am

dodger

iZsaZsa said:

dodger said:

Prince also said 'SHE IS THE FUTURE, SHE IS ADDICTIVE' so it's a yes from me

Maybe Prince was right about her. At the 1:11 mark she sounds good. And I think she stands out of the Dolls.

A lot better with no sound.

P was right, SHE'S ADDICTIVE!

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Reply #53 posted 03/01/19 4:15am

iZsaZsa

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dodger said:

iZsaZsa said:

Maybe Prince was right about her. At the 1:11 mark she sounds good. And I think she stands out of the Dolls.

A lot better with no sound.

P was right, SHE'S ADDICTIVE!

lol

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Reply #54 posted 03/01/19 5:54am

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databank said:

dodger said:

iZsaZsa said: Didn’t we all see the power. SHE IS THE SCARIEST FEMALE ON THE PLANET...

I was actually so disappointed because of this.

I was only 15 and really impressed by this video teaser with all those slogans at the D&P Tour, then prince got released and it blew my mind so I really expected CE to be another epic record.

Then came 1993 and I purchased it and at that stage I'd never heard a note of it because I hadn't seen the Ryde Dyvine or the first music video yet, so my expectations were still high. After a minute of Go-Go Dancer I was like WTF??!!! Then came Good Judy GF and by that point I was really depressed. Most of the album grew on me eventually, but it still was such a disappointment.

Same here. And Billboard had a whole page of her with the small Paisey Park logo on the bottom. Had me intrigued to who and what this project was. Never got the cd as it wasnt released here in rgular outlets. Found it used in other records stores years later and felt it was meh

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #55 posted 03/01/19 7:02am

dodger

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databank said:

I was actually so disappointed because of this.

I was only 15 and really impressed by this video teaser with all those slogans at the D&P Tour, then prince got released and it blew my mind so I really expected CE to be another epic record.

Then came 1993 and I purchased it and at that stage I'd never heard a note of it because I hadn't seen the Ryde Dyvine or the first music video yet, so my expectations were still high. After a minute of Go-Go Dancer I was like WTF??!!! Then came Good Judy GF and by that point I was really depressed. Most of the album grew on me eventually, but it still was such a disappointment.

Same here. And Billboard had a whole page of her with the small Paisey Park logo on the bottom. Had me intrigued to who and what this project was. Never got the cd as it wasnt released here in rgular outlets. Found it used in other records stores years later and felt it was meh

Similar for me. I was 16 and saw the Carmen promo on the Sexy MF VHS and was intrigued to say the least. Her album was not available in the UK so I didn't get it till years later but I got a bootleg VHS of the Ryde Dyvine and thought she was OK on that.

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Her album is a decent companion to the Symbol album and I do like that live NPG sound on a few of the tracks, especially Just A Little Lovin' for it's cameo in the Sexy MF video.

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Reply #56 posted 03/01/19 7:07am

violetcrush

Prince had Carmen opening for him at the start of the D&P tour. What I have read is that her performance was so bad that he cancelled her gig and fired the guys in the band. I believe her last show was one of the London concerts June 1992.
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Reply #57 posted 03/01/19 7:12am

violetcrush

dodger said:



iZsaZsa said:




dodger said:



Prince also said 'SHE IS THE FUTURE, SHE IS ADDICTIVE' so it's a yes from me



Maybe Prince was right about her. At the 1:11 mark she sounds good. And I think she stands out of the Dolls.



A lot better with no sound.


P was right, SHE'S ADDICTIVE!


You've GOT to be kidding!!! Addictive?? Maybe for horny heterosexual males lol
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Reply #58 posted 03/01/19 7:19am

NorthC

databank said:



ufoclub said:




iZsaZsa said:



VanHemelen.



Bart gets his info from books and articles (which are often inaccurate). There's people online that actually worked for Prince and were there.



For all his lack of manners, Bart actually provides a lot of useful info. Sources are what they are, they're not always accurate but it's up to us to figure out what's true and what's inaccurate.


Spoken like a true historian. cool
About your question, Prince probably thought: sex sells, it worked with Vanity, so it will work again.
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Reply #59 posted 03/01/19 7:27am

dodger

violetcrush said:

dodger said:



iZsaZsa said:




dodger said:



Prince also said 'SHE IS THE FUTURE, SHE IS ADDICTIVE' so it's a yes from me



Maybe Prince was right about her. At the 1:11 mark she sounds good. And I think she stands out of the Dolls.



A lot better with no sound.


P was right, SHE'S ADDICTIVE!


You've GOT to be kidding!!! Addictive?? Maybe for horny heterosexual males lol


I was.
You seen this

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