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Reply #30 posted 12/30/18 4:37pm

EmmaMcG

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Militant said:

It's interesting that people speak so highly of "Future Soul Song", since it actually was written back in the 90s, as confirmed in my interview with Hans-Martin Buff.




I honestly don't see what's interesting about that. I don't mean to be a smartarse or anything, I just genuinely don't see what one thing has to do with another.
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Reply #31 posted 12/30/18 5:11pm

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Beginning Endlessly is one tight track cool

20Ten is amazing from beginning to end.

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Reply #32 posted 12/30/18 7:39pm

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Militant said:

It's interesting that people speak so highly of "Future Soul Song", since it actually was written back in the 90s, as confirmed in my interview with Hans-Martin Buff.



There's some prophetic inception shit going on there. lol

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #33 posted 12/30/18 11:46pm

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dodger said:



Great post.
Even though I think he probably threw the album together in a couple of hours I agree with almost every line. Especially about Everybody Loves Me; I've always thought it could have been a Muppets song. It's that bad it's almost good.

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Reply #34 posted 12/31/18 2:37am

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EmmaMcG said:

Militant said:

It's interesting that people speak so highly of "Future Soul Song", since it actually was written back in the 90s, as confirmed in my interview with Hans-Martin Buff.


I honestly don't see what's interesting about that. I don't mean to be a smartarse or anything, I just genuinely don't see what one thing has to do with another.

If I must spell it out, time and chronology are interesting to some of us. I like the musical context of a song, some people just want to enjoy the music within their own little world and good for them, but some of us want to know what was going on around the artist musically when a song was written. Others want to know about the personal stories that lead to songs, I'm less interested in that myself but i'm not going to tell them they're not allowed do it either.


Anyway, re: 20Ten, I like it well enough. I don't know if I'd call it lightweight but in my head it's kind of akin to Chaos & Disorder or The Vault in that it's a set of enjoyable songs in a broadly similar style that isn't trying to change the world. The ballads hold up well, Laydown is a cool track that was better live, Lavaux is interesting lyrically and a cool breezy groove, even if it's blatantly lifted from the Pointer Sisters. Better than MPLSound but still not exactly a career highlight. I like how the end of Laydown kind of loops directly into the start of Compassion.

[Edited 12/31/18 2:51am]

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Reply #35 posted 12/31/18 3:07am

stpaisios

Anyone noticed how ‘Act of God’ & ‘Free Uself’ have some similarities? They go se well 2gether. When ‘Free Urself’ was released i thought, man, this is some new Prince era with cute jams and bold messages. — “Love urself so we can love U too’ i mean strong is that?
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Reply #36 posted 12/31/18 3:23am

Urine

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I love this record and always have. I genuinely don't get why the fans didn't like it. I get why MPLSound gets shitted on, but not this one. He was trying to go for a retro Prince sound, much like MPLSound, but came with much better songs. It was almost like an apology for the way that record turned out, with a note attached that said, "This is what it should have been." Heck, maybe that's why it was free. Or maybe I'm projecting. I did often wonder how many of these songs, besides Future Soul Song (W. 1999), were actually new compositions.

Compassion - A nice album opener, with a positive energy and message. A bit like a Let's Go Crazy-lite, missing the guitars. Prince admitting there are things that piss him off, too, like turning on the radio and only hearing, "electro-magnetic pop," or the lack of rightousness on "the right," and no sanctity on "the left." Compassion shoud be a "new international anthem," damn it, especially right now. These lyrics have proven to be prophetic,

"When ego, fear, and judgment
Become the rule of law
Watch the polar ice caps
Heat up, melt down, and thaw
When the greedy one forgets
That he's the reason for it all."

Beginning Endlessly - Such a great musical build on this song, with a fabulous payoff (the rhythm guitar breakdown). The lyrics referencing the beginning of humanity, and connecting with someone on that kind of basic, molecular level (Space) are interesting, and deep, if you let yourself go there with him. I love the live version he opened that one LA show with back around this time.

Future Soul Song - A definite highlight. Wonderful melody, with a thoughtful concept, and lyrics. My thought is that a "future soul song" is a song about a time when our bodies are gone, and only our souls are left. A place where I like to think he is now that he's gone. Verse 2 always spoke to me,"

"And when my voice rose, so did the sun
When the trees sang the harmony as one
Every living soul sang the most beautiful
Melody ever sung."

And I like when he references the eyerolls he got for being a man of faith. "I hear sighs. I hear whispers. But I don't care. This is between me and my Lord. U can go right on ahead and stare." He didn't apologize for who he was when he was nasty, why should he apologize for who he is now? I like that.

Sticky Like Glue - So tight and funky it almost hurts. There are musical moments in this song that sound straight out of 1982. I love that about it. And lyrics you can "see," which I always appreciate. I love the line, "Out of town - I had 2 go, but now I need a cup of something black and strong." He needed a strong black woman back in his life, and it sounds like he found her. Yes, the rap is one of his worst, but what comes after is so good, it's easily forgiven. The 10 minute rehearsal version is still one my most treasured Prince items.

Act Of God - The groove always reminded me of Computer Blue, but with with a juke joint feel. Mavis could have done some major justice to this. More thoughtful lyrics - "I got news 4 ya. Freedom ain't free. They lock U in a cell if U try 2 be." I could actually quote whole thing, I love it so much.

Lavaux - More classic early 80s musicality. I love the line, "A paradox's box's key. I am the Y in MYSTERY. U can unlock the secrets if U please." The "assembly in New York," sounds like a JW rally, of which I'll pass, but he does make it sound funky. Now where's that 10 minute version???

Walk In Sand - A lovely melody, with a sweet vocal from Prince. Could he write a song like this in his sleep? Yes. But that doesn't mean it isn't earnest.

Sea Of Everything - Cut from the cloth of Scandalous, but with the vulnerability and insecurities of a man who is no longer young. "Will U still feel the same when the spotlight fades?" "U wander the wilderness, searching 4 a king. Will U settle 4 a Prince, and a sea of everything?" Ironic, cocky. So Prince.

Everybody Loves Me - This song always made me chuckle. That he would even have the balls to record it, let alone release it. But that's always been one of the things I love about him - his sheer audacity. The song is clearly a novelty number, sounding like a childrens television show theme song, but with a Dirty Mind sort of synth groove to it. You can almost see Muppets singing the chorus.

Laydown - "From the heart of Minnesota, here come the purple Yoda." I mean...that's just classic. Corny? Definitely. But he could get away with it, because he was a purple Yoda, damn it. An absolute musical Jedi Master. So where's the lie?

God, I miss him. sigh

[Edited 12/30/18 9:14am]



This made me want to check this album out again
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Reply #37 posted 12/31/18 4:26am

3stori3s

EmmaMcG said:

Militant said:

It's interesting that people speak so highly of "Future Soul Song", since it actually was written back in the 90s, as confirmed in my interview with Hans-Martin Buff.




I honestly don't see what's interesting about that. I don't mean to be a smartarse or anything, I just genuinely don't see what one thing has to do with another.



It doesn’t, Militant’s staggering narcissism makes him have to try to make everything about him somehow.
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Reply #38 posted 12/31/18 4:33am

stpaisios

Militant said:

It's interesting that people speak so highly of "Future Soul Song", since it actually was written back in the 90s, as confirmed in my interview with Hans-Martin Buff.




I heard something about that. Is there early version of song circulating?
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Reply #39 posted 12/31/18 6:32am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I love this record and always have. I genuinely don't get why the fans didn't like it. I get why MPLSound gets shitted on, but not this one. He was trying to go for a retro Prince sound, much like MPLSound, but came with much better songs. It was almost like an apology for the way that record turned out, with a note attached that said, "This is what it should have been." Heck, maybe that's why it was free. Or maybe I'm projecting. I did often wonder how many of these songs, besides Future Soul Song (W. 1999), were actually new compositions.

Compassion - A nice album opener, with a positive energy and message. A bit like a Let's Go Crazy-lite, missing the guitars. Prince admitting there are things that piss him off, too, like turning on the radio and only hearing, "electro-magnetic pop," or the lack of rightousness on "the right," and no sanctity on "the left." Compassion shoud be a "new international anthem," damn it, especially right now. These lyrics have proven to be prophetic,

"When ego, fear, and judgment
Become the rule of law
Watch the polar ice caps
Heat up, melt down, and thaw
When the greedy one forgets
That he's the reason for it all."

Beginning Endlessly - Such a great musical build on this song, with a fabulous payoff (the rhythm guitar breakdown). The lyrics referencing the beginning of humanity, and connecting with someone on that kind of basic, molecular level (Space) are interesting, and deep, if you let yourself go there with him. I love the live version he opened that one LA show with back around this time.

Future Soul Song - A definite highlight. Wonderful melody, with a thoughtful concept, and lyrics. My thought is that a "future soul song" is a song about a time when our bodies are gone, and only our souls are left. A place where I like to think he is now that he's gone. Verse 2 always spoke to me,"

"And when my voice rose, so did the sun
When the trees sang the harmony as one
Every living soul sang the most beautiful
Melody ever sung."

And I like when he references the eyerolls he got for being a man of faith. "I hear sighs. I hear whispers. But I don't care. This is between me and my Lord. U can go right on ahead and stare." He didn't apologize for who he was when he was nasty, why should he apologize for who he is now? I like that.

Sticky Like Glue - So tight and funky it almost hurts. There are musical moments in this song that sound straight out of 1982. I love that about it. And lyrics you can "see," which I always appreciate. I love the line, "Out of town - I had 2 go, but now I need a cup of something black and strong." He needed a strong black woman back in his life, and it sounds like he found her. Yes, the rap is one of his worst, but what comes after is so good, it's easily forgiven. The 10 minute rehearsal version is still one my most treasured Prince items.

Act Of God - The groove always reminded me of Computer Blue, but with with a juke joint feel. Mavis could have done some major justice to this. More thoughtful lyrics - "I got news 4 ya. Freedom ain't free. They lock U in a cell if U try 2 be." I could actually quote whole thing, I love it so much.

Lavaux - More classic early 80s musicality. I love the line, "A paradox's box's key. I am the Y in MYSTERY. U can unlock the secrets if U please." The "assembly in New York," sounds like a JW rally, of which I'll pass, but he does make it sound funky. Now where's that 10 minute version???

Walk In Sand - A lovely melody, with a sweet vocal from Prince. Could he write a song like this in his sleep? Yes. But that doesn't mean it isn't earnest.

Sea Of Everything - Cut from the cloth of Scandalous, but with the vulnerability and insecurities of a man who is no longer young. "Will U still feel the same when the spotlight fades?" "U wander the wilderness, searching 4 a king. Will U settle 4 a Prince, and a sea of everything?" Ironic, cocky. So Prince.

Everybody Loves Me - This song always made me chuckle. That he would even have the balls to record it, let alone release it. But that's always been one of the things I love about him - his sheer audacity. The song is clearly a novelty number, sounding like a childrens television show theme song, but with a Dirty Mind sort of synth groove to it. You can almost see Muppets singing the chorus.

Laydown - "From the heart of Minnesota, here come the purple Yoda." I mean...that's just classic. Corny? Definitely. But he could get away with it, because he was a purple Yoda, damn it. An absolute musical Jedi Master. So where's the lie?

God, I miss him. sigh


love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #40 posted 12/31/18 6:34am

Urine

3stori3s said:

EmmaMcG said:



I honestly don't see what's interesting about that. I don't mean to be a smartarse or anything, I just genuinely don't see what one thing has to do with another.



It doesn’t, Militant’s staggering narcissism makes him have to try to make everything about him somehow.


Is Militant the one who looks Prince?
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Reply #41 posted 12/31/18 7:02am

pinkcashmere23

IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I love this record and always have. I genuinely don't get why the fans didn't like it. I get why MPLSound gets shitted on, but not this one. He was trying to go for a retro Prince sound, much like MPLSound, but came with much better songs. It was almost like an apology for the way that record turned out, with a note attached that said, "This is what it should have been." Heck, maybe that's why it was free. Or maybe I'm projecting. I did often wonder how many of these songs, besides Future Soul Song (W. 1999), were actually new compositions.

Compassion - A nice album opener, with a positive energy and message. A bit like a Let's Go Crazy-lite, missing the guitars. Prince admitting there are things that piss him off, too, like turning on the radio and only hearing, "electro-magnetic pop," or the lack of rightousness on "the right," and no sanctity on "the left." Compassion shoud be a "new international anthem," damn it, especially right now. These lyrics have proven to be prophetic,

"When ego, fear, and judgment
Become the rule of law
Watch the polar ice caps
Heat up, melt down, and thaw
When the greedy one forgets
That he's the reason for it all."

Beginning Endlessly - Such a great musical build on this song, with a fabulous payoff (the rhythm guitar breakdown). The lyrics referencing the beginning of humanity, and connecting with someone on that kind of basic, molecular level (Space) are interesting, and deep, if you let yourself go there with him. I love the live version he opened that one LA show with back around this time.

Future Soul Song - A definite highlight. Wonderful melody, with a thoughtful concept, and lyrics. My thought is that a "future soul song" is a song about a time when our bodies are gone, and only our souls are left. A place where I like to think he is now that he's gone. Verse 2 always spoke to me,"

"And when my voice rose, so did the sun
When the trees sang the harmony as one
Every living soul sang the most beautiful
Melody ever sung."

And I like when he references the eyerolls he got for being a man of faith. "I hear sighs. I hear whispers. But I don't care. This is between me and my Lord. U can go right on ahead and stare." He didn't apologize for who he was when he was nasty, why should he apologize for who he is now? I like that.

Sticky Like Glue - So tight and funky it almost hurts. There are musical moments in this song that sound straight out of 1982. I love that about it. And lyrics you can "see," which I always appreciate. I love the line, "Out of town - I had 2 go, but now I need a cup of something black and strong." He needed a strong black woman back in his life, and it sounds like he found her. Yes, the rap is one of his worst, but what comes after is so good, it's easily forgiven. The 10 minute rehearsal version is still one my most treasured Prince items.

Act Of God - The groove always reminded me of Computer Blue, but with with a juke joint feel. Mavis could have done some major justice to this. More thoughtful lyrics - "I got news 4 ya. Freedom ain't free. They lock U in a cell if U try 2 be." I could actually quote whole thing, I love it so much.

Lavaux - More classic early 80s musicality. I love the line, "A paradox's box's key. I am the Y in MYSTERY. U can unlock the secrets if U please." The "assembly in New York," sounds like a JW rally, of which I'll pass, but he does make it sound funky. Now where's that 10 minute version???

Walk In Sand - A lovely melody, with a sweet vocal from Prince. Could he write a song like this in his sleep? Yes. But that doesn't mean it isn't earnest.

Sea Of Everything - Cut from the cloth of Scandalous, but with the vulnerability and insecurities of a man who is no longer young. "Will U still feel the same when the spotlight fades?" "U wander the wilderness, searching 4 a king. Will U settle 4 a Prince, and a sea of everything?" Ironic, cocky. So Prince.

Everybody Loves Me - This song always made me chuckle. That he would even have the balls to record it, let alone release it. But that's always been one of the things I love about him - his sheer audacity. The song is clearly a novelty number, sounding like a childrens television show theme song, but with a Dirty Mind sort of synth groove to it. You can almost see Muppets singing the chorus.

Laydown - "From the heart of Minnesota, here come the purple Yoda." I mean...that's just classic. Corny? Definitely. But he could get away with it, because he was a purple Yoda, damn it. An absolute musical Jedi Master. So where's the lie?

God, I miss him. sigh


love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.


Yes,I think Rich Friends would have fit well. I would have also loved if he had included Cause and Effect and as someone here said,opened the album with it instead of Compassion.

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Reply #42 posted 12/31/18 7:06am

peedub

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pinkcashmere23 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I love this record and always have. I genuinely don't get why the fans didn't like it. I get why MPLSound gets shitted on, but not this one. He was trying to go for a retro Prince sound, much like MPLSound, but came with much better songs. It was almost like an apology for the way that record turned out, with a note attached that said, "This is what it should have been." Heck, maybe that's why it was free. Or maybe I'm projecting. I did often wonder how many of these songs, besides Future Soul Song (W. 1999), were actually new compositions.

Compassion - A nice album opener, with a positive energy and message. A bit like a Let's Go Crazy-lite, missing the guitars. Prince admitting there are things that piss him off, too, like turning on the radio and only hearing, "electro-magnetic pop," or the lack of rightousness on "the right," and no sanctity on "the left." Compassion shoud be a "new international anthem," damn it, especially right now. These lyrics have proven to be prophetic,

"When ego, fear, and judgment
Become the rule of law
Watch the polar ice caps
Heat up, melt down, and thaw
When the greedy one forgets
That he's the reason for it all."

Beginning Endlessly - Such a great musical build on this song, with a fabulous payoff (the rhythm guitar breakdown). The lyrics referencing the beginning of humanity, and connecting with someone on that kind of basic, molecular level (Space) are interesting, and deep, if you let yourself go there with him. I love the live version he opened that one LA show with back around this time.

Future Soul Song - A definite highlight. Wonderful melody, with a thoughtful concept, and lyrics. My thought is that a "future soul song" is a song about a time when our bodies are gone, and only our souls are left. A place where I like to think he is now that he's gone. Verse 2 always spoke to me,"

"And when my voice rose, so did the sun
When the trees sang the harmony as one
Every living soul sang the most beautiful
Melody ever sung."

And I like when he references the eyerolls he got for being a man of faith. "I hear sighs. I hear whispers. But I don't care. This is between me and my Lord. U can go right on ahead and stare." He didn't apologize for who he was when he was nasty, why should he apologize for who he is now? I like that.

Sticky Like Glue - So tight and funky it almost hurts. There are musical moments in this song that sound straight out of 1982. I love that about it. And lyrics you can "see," which I always appreciate. I love the line, "Out of town - I had 2 go, but now I need a cup of something black and strong." He needed a strong black woman back in his life, and it sounds like he found her. Yes, the rap is one of his worst, but what comes after is so good, it's easily forgiven. The 10 minute rehearsal version is still one my most treasured Prince items.

Act Of God - The groove always reminded me of Computer Blue, but with with a juke joint feel. Mavis could have done some major justice to this. More thoughtful lyrics - "I got news 4 ya. Freedom ain't free. They lock U in a cell if U try 2 be." I could actually quote whole thing, I love it so much.

Lavaux - More classic early 80s musicality. I love the line, "A paradox's box's key. I am the Y in MYSTERY. U can unlock the secrets if U please." The "assembly in New York," sounds like a JW rally, of which I'll pass, but he does make it sound funky. Now where's that 10 minute version???

Walk In Sand - A lovely melody, with a sweet vocal from Prince. Could he write a song like this in his sleep? Yes. But that doesn't mean it isn't earnest.

Sea Of Everything - Cut from the cloth of Scandalous, but with the vulnerability and insecurities of a man who is no longer young. "Will U still feel the same when the spotlight fades?" "U wander the wilderness, searching 4 a king. Will U settle 4 a Prince, and a sea of everything?" Ironic, cocky. So Prince.

Everybody Loves Me - This song always made me chuckle. That he would even have the balls to record it, let alone release it. But that's always been one of the things I love about him - his sheer audacity. The song is clearly a novelty number, sounding like a childrens television show theme song, but with a Dirty Mind sort of synth groove to it. You can almost see Muppets singing the chorus.

Laydown - "From the heart of Minnesota, here come the purple Yoda." I mean...that's just classic. Corny? Definitely. But he could get away with it, because he was a purple Yoda, damn it. An absolute musical Jedi Master. So where's the lie?

God, I miss him. sigh

[Edited 12/30/18 9:14am]

yes


yeah, man...i'm not even gonna read the rest of the thread after this post. i run the whole 'prince in the studio movie' in my head for the duration of this album. and it's so simple and clever.

he spoiled us.

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Reply #43 posted 12/31/18 7:11am

EmmaMcG

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jaawwnn said:



EmmaMcG said:


Militant said:

It's interesting that people speak so highly of "Future Soul Song", since it actually was written back in the 90s, as confirmed in my interview with Hans-Martin Buff.




I honestly don't see what's interesting about that. I don't mean to be a smartarse or anything, I just genuinely don't see what one thing has to do with another.

If I must spell it out, time and chronology are interesting to some of us. I like the musical context of a song, some people just want to enjoy the music within their own little world and good for them, but some of us want to know what was going on around the artist musically when a song was written. Others want to know about the personal stories that lead to songs, I'm less interested in that myself but i'm not going to tell them they're not allowed do it either.


Anyway, re: 20Ten, I like it well enough. I don't know if I'd call it lightweight but in my head it's kind of akin to Chaos & Disorder or The Vault in that it's a set of enjoyable songs in a broadly similar style that isn't trying to change the world. The ballads hold up well, Laydown is a cool track that was better live, Lavaux is interesting lyrically and a cool breezy groove, even if it's blatantly lifted from the Pointer Sisters. Better than MPLSound but still not exactly a career highlight. I like how the end of Laydown kind of loops directly into the start of Compassion.


[Edited 12/31/18 2:51am]



That doesn't answer my question at all. I know people may be interested in when the song was written and where it came from and all that. That's not what I'm talking about though. Militant said that it was interesting that people were praising the song because it was written in the 90s. What I'm wondering is why is praise for a song that was written in the 90s so interesting?
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Reply #44 posted 12/31/18 7:16am

dodger

IstenSzek said:





love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.




I've always thought Rich Friends was terrible but if you're saying its 'a superb song' I'll have to revisit...
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Reply #45 posted 12/31/18 7:22am

SchlomoThaHomo

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IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I love this record and always have. I genuinely don't get why the fans didn't like it. I get why MPLSound gets shitted on, but not this one. He was trying to go for a retro Prince sound, much like MPLSound, but came with much better songs. It was almost like an apology for the way that record turned out, with a note attached that said, "This is what it should have been." Heck, maybe that's why it was free. Or maybe I'm projecting. I did often wonder how many of these songs, besides Future Soul Song (W. 1999), were actually new compositions.

Compassion - A nice album opener, with a positive energy and message. A bit like a Let's Go Crazy-lite, missing the guitars. Prince admitting there are things that piss him off, too, like turning on the radio and only hearing, "electro-magnetic pop," or the lack of rightousness on "the right," and no sanctity on "the left." Compassion shoud be a "new international anthem," damn it, especially right now. These lyrics have proven to be prophetic,

"When ego, fear, and judgment
Become the rule of law
Watch the polar ice caps
Heat up, melt down, and thaw
When the greedy one forgets
That he's the reason for it all."

Beginning Endlessly - Such a great musical build on this song, with a fabulous payoff (the rhythm guitar breakdown). The lyrics referencing the beginning of humanity, and connecting with someone on that kind of basic, molecular level (Space) are interesting, and deep, if you let yourself go there with him. I love the live version he opened that one LA show with back around this time.

Future Soul Song - A definite highlight. Wonderful melody, with a thoughtful concept, and lyrics. My thought is that a "future soul song" is a song about a time when our bodies are gone, and only our souls are left. A place where I like to think he is now that he's gone. Verse 2 always spoke to me,"

"And when my voice rose, so did the sun
When the trees sang the harmony as one
Every living soul sang the most beautiful
Melody ever sung."

And I like when he references the eyerolls he got for being a man of faith. "I hear sighs. I hear whispers. But I don't care. This is between me and my Lord. U can go right on ahead and stare." He didn't apologize for who he was when he was nasty, why should he apologize for who he is now? I like that.

Sticky Like Glue - So tight and funky it almost hurts. There are musical moments in this song that sound straight out of 1982. I love that about it. And lyrics you can "see," which I always appreciate. I love the line, "Out of town - I had 2 go, but now I need a cup of something black and strong." He needed a strong black woman back in his life, and it sounds like he found her. Yes, the rap is one of his worst, but what comes after is so good, it's easily forgiven. The 10 minute rehearsal version is still one my most treasured Prince items.

Act Of God - The groove always reminded me of Computer Blue, but with with a juke joint feel. Mavis could have done some major justice to this. More thoughtful lyrics - "I got news 4 ya. Freedom ain't free. They lock U in a cell if U try 2 be." I could actually quote whole thing, I love it so much.

Lavaux - More classic early 80s musicality. I love the line, "A paradox's box's key. I am the Y in MYSTERY. U can unlock the secrets if U please." The "assembly in New York," sounds like a JW rally, of which I'll pass, but he does make it sound funky. Now where's that 10 minute version???

Walk In Sand - A lovely melody, with a sweet vocal from Prince. Could he write a song like this in his sleep? Yes. But that doesn't mean it isn't earnest.

Sea Of Everything - Cut from the cloth of Scandalous, but with the vulnerability and insecurities of a man who is no longer young. "Will U still feel the same when the spotlight fades?" "U wander the wilderness, searching 4 a king. Will U settle 4 a Prince, and a sea of everything?" Ironic, cocky. So Prince.

Everybody Loves Me - This song always made me chuckle. That he would even have the balls to record it, let alone release it. But that's always been one of the things I love about him - his sheer audacity. The song is clearly a novelty number, sounding like a childrens television show theme song, but with a Dirty Mind sort of synth groove to it. You can almost see Muppets singing the chorus.

Laydown - "From the heart of Minnesota, here come the purple Yoda." I mean...that's just classic. Corny? Definitely. But he could get away with it, because he was a purple Yoda, damn it. An absolute musical Jedi Master. So where's the lie?

God, I miss him. sigh


love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.



Yea I love Rich Friends as well. It's quite an interesting listen on headphones, too. Lots of little things going on. I feel like the 2010-11 era in general is very underrated. Lots of stuff he recorded back then I personally rate quite highly, aside from 20Ten and the associated songs - Black Muse, Same Page, When She Comes, Welcome 2 America, Big City, 2Y2D, etc.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #46 posted 12/31/18 9:43am

luvsexy4all

EmmaMcG said:

kookooman73 said:
He was without a record deal & yet again exploring the best way (for him) to get the product to the consumer. Was Planet Earth any less of an album because it was also included in a newspaper? Was the Undertaker album any less because he intended to include it with a guitar magazine? Was The Truth album any less because he bundled it with the Crystal Ball compilation? Was Musicolgy inferior because he gave it away with concert tix? I greatly admired these unconventional methods where he got his music out there & got the lion share of the profit. IIRC he got an advance of $400,000 for the album plus tons of publicity. Personally also I love the album. My brother runs a newsagents & gave me about 30 copies. I posted them out for free to fans all over the world. 💜
Planet Earth seemed like an album of outtakes from the 3121 sessions. He even references 3121 on one of the songs. There's some good songs on Planet Earth but it's far from being a strong album. I think the price of a newspaper was just about the right price point for it. The Undertaker wasn't really a complete album either. Six and a half songs, three of which were recycled from other projects and one was a cover. He'd have had some nerve releasing that and charging full price for it. The Truth was a mainly acoustic album recorded during a time when his popularity was at an all time low. Releasing that seperately from The Crystal Ball wouldn't have done him, or the album, any favours at all. It would have been an even harder sell than it already was. Musicology was him "comeback" album and in order for him to regain a fraction of the popularity he once had, giving the album away with concert tickets was a shrewd move. It also helped that by doing that, he fiddled the charts so it appeared that his album was a bigger seller than it actually was. Again, great promotional move for the tour, but that's all it was. No artist, not even Prince, is going to give away something for free if they feel it's good enough to charge for it. Unless, as was the case with Musicology, it helped to promote another venture.

he got paid up front for those "giveaways"....so dont think he didnt "charge" for it

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Reply #47 posted 12/31/18 11:30am

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luvsexy4all said:



EmmaMcG said:


kookooman73 said:
He was without a record deal & yet again exploring the best way (for him) to get the product to the consumer. Was Planet Earth any less of an album because it was also included in a newspaper? Was the Undertaker album any less because he intended to include it with a guitar magazine? Was The Truth album any less because he bundled it with the Crystal Ball compilation? Was Musicolgy inferior because he gave it away with concert tix? I greatly admired these unconventional methods where he got his music out there & got the lion share of the profit. IIRC he got an advance of $400,000 for the album plus tons of publicity. Personally also I love the album. My brother runs a newsagents & gave me about 30 copies. I posted them out for free to fans all over the world. 💜

Planet Earth seemed like an album of outtakes from the 3121 sessions. He even references 3121 on one of the songs. There's some good songs on Planet Earth but it's far from being a strong album. I think the price of a newspaper was just about the right price point for it. The Undertaker wasn't really a complete album either. Six and a half songs, three of which were recycled from other projects and one was a cover. He'd have had some nerve releasing that and charging full price for it. The Truth was a mainly acoustic album recorded during a time when his popularity was at an all time low. Releasing that seperately from The Crystal Ball wouldn't have done him, or the album, any favours at all. It would have been an even harder sell than it already was. Musicology was him "comeback" album and in order for him to regain a fraction of the popularity he once had, giving the album away with concert tickets was a shrewd move. It also helped that by doing that, he fiddled the charts so it appeared that his album was a bigger seller than it actually was. Again, great promotional move for the tour, but that's all it was. No artist, not even Prince, is going to give away something for free if they feel it's good enough to charge for it. Unless, as was the case with Musicology, it helped to promote another venture.

he got paid up front for those "giveaways"....so dont think he didnt "charge" for it



He didn't charge the general public, is what I meant. Because he's not stupid. He knew the likes of The Undertaker or The Truth wouldn't sell to anyone but his hardcore fanbase, which wasn't all that big at that time.
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Reply #48 posted 12/31/18 11:35am

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Act of God sports some very ignorant lyrics, but I love the music. Compassion makes me laugh. That's some silly shit. Beginning Endlessly doesn't do much for me. From Future Soul Song on, I love the album aside from his typical lyric issues.

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Reply #49 posted 12/31/18 12:28pm

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Lavaux, Act of God, Laydown, Sticky like glue.

Some good songs on that album. I would have liked to have got it with a newspaper if I was in Europe at the time.

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Reply #50 posted 12/31/18 5:14pm

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20ten is a decent album with a few really good songs on it like Sticky like glue, Future Soul Song, Walk In Sand and Sea Of Everything smile
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Reply #51 posted 01/01/19 3:43am

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:


love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.


I've always thought Rich Friends was terrible but if you're saying its 'a superb song' I'll have to revisit...


so what happened? smile did you like rich friends, or did you downgrade your opinion of me? biggrin

it's the latter, isn't it neutral

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Reply #52 posted 01/01/19 3:46am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

IstenSzek said:


love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.



Yea I love Rich Friends as well. It's quite an interesting listen on headphones, too. Lots of little things going on. I feel like the 2010-11 era in general is very underrated. Lots of stuff he recorded back then I personally rate quite highly, aside from 20Ten and the associated songs - Black Muse, Same Page, When She Comes, Welcome 2 America, Big City, 2Y2D, etc.


yup, it's great to listen to on headphones nod and further, agreed on all the rest as well smile

i love "same page" too, it's another one of those songs that fell between the cracks but i'm
listening to it quite often. it does go on a bit too long imo, but it's a good cut.


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Reply #53 posted 01/01/19 4:37am

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For a long time, my interest in this album began and ended with Future Soul Song, which I consider to be one of the finest ballads he ever wrote.

But lately I've been enjoying other cuts like Sticky Like Glue, Laydown and Act of God as well.

What are everyones thoughts on Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything? They feel a little Prince-by-numbers and not really amongst his most inspired ballads, but are nice enough if you're in the mood.



How come it takes you like a decade to evaluate an album?
Future soul song is a piece of crap, that could only appeal to Americans.
It competes with sea of everything in the top 10 of Prince all time worst song.
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Walk in Sand is a great ballad.
LayDown is a masterpiece.
Compassion is like a pop hit escaped from the 80's, it s great.
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Beginning endlessly could have been a MJ track, if he were alive and well.
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Speaking of it,Lavaux is an obvious plagiarism of Shake Your Body.
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Tracks 10 to 76 are underrated for some.
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Reply #54 posted 01/01/19 5:08am

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RODSERLING said:

MattyJam said:

For a long time, my interest in this album began and ended with Future Soul Song, which I consider to be one of the finest ballads he ever wrote.

But lately I've been enjoying other cuts like Sticky Like Glue, Laydown and Act of God as well.

What are everyones thoughts on Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything? They feel a little Prince-by-numbers and not really amongst his most inspired ballads, but are nice enough if you're in the mood.

How come it takes you like a decade to evaluate an album? Future soul song is a piece of crap, that could only appeal to Americans. It competes with sea of everything in the top 10 of Prince all time worst song. . Walk in Sand is a great ballad. LayDown is a masterpiece. Compassion is like a pop hit escaped from the 80's, it s great. . Beginning endlessly could have been a MJ track, if he were alive and well. . Speaking of it,Lavaux is an obvious plagiarism of Shake Your Body. . Tracks 10 to 76 are underrated for some. [Edited 1/1/19 4:41am]

It's an even more obvious plagiarism of Automatic by the Pointer Sisters.

although he was playing Shake Your Body live at lot circa 2010, maybe it grew out of that jam.

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Reply #55 posted 01/01/19 5:13am

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RODSERLING said:

MattyJam said:

For a long time, my interest in this album began and ended with Future Soul Song, which I consider to be one of the finest ballads he ever wrote.

But lately I've been enjoying other cuts like Sticky Like Glue, Laydown and Act of God as well.

What are everyones thoughts on Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything? They feel a little Prince-by-numbers and not really amongst his most inspired ballads, but are nice enough if you're in the mood.

How come it takes you like a decade to evaluate an album? Future soul song is a piece of crap, that could only appeal to Americans. It competes with sea of everything in the top 10 of Prince all time worst song. . Walk in Sand is a great ballad. LayDown is a masterpiece. Compassion is like a pop hit escaped from the 80's, it s great. . Beginning endlessly could have been a MJ track, if he were alive and well. . Speaking of it,Lavaux is an obvious plagiarism of Shake Your Body. . Tracks 10 to 76 are underrated for some. [Edited 1/1/19 4:41am]


I'm always discovering new things in Prince's music, albums or songs I've known for years that I had written off or thought I didn't like, and then one day it just clicks.

How you can say Future Soul Song is a piece of crap is beyond me. It is without a doubt the best song he released 00-16 imo and for the record, I'm not American. Even the man himself acknowledged it as the best song on the album.

[Edited 1/1/19 5:18am]

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Reply #56 posted 01/01/19 5:21am

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It is one of his most purely enjoyable albums. It's hard not to sing the whole thing from beginning to end when it is on, with an exception being I can only last for about a third of Everybody Loves Me. Beginning Endlessly is a classic!

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Reply #57 posted 01/01/19 7:12am

dodger

IstenSzek said:



dodger said:


IstenSzek said:




love

yeah, i miss him too neutral

also, this album really needs the added bonus of "rich friends" which is a superb song.

i've listened to it about a thousand times and i still find new things in it, it's a very good
cut that is completely overlooked or even hated on.




I've always thought Rich Friends was terrible but if you're saying its 'a superb song' I'll have to revisit...


so what happened? smile did you like rich friends, or did you downgrade your opinion of me? biggrin

it's the latter, isn't it neutral




biggrin listening now on my new airpods and it sounds better and more interesting than I remember.
Don't know if I'd call it superb but my opinion of you is still pretty high!

I agree on Same Page Different Book; love it. Even Shelby's rap wink
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Reply #58 posted 01/01/19 9:59am

PliablyPurple

People still think that they were given Musicology for free? Guess that's the genius of P still working razz.

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Reply #59 posted 01/01/19 10:11am

IstenSzek

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:


so what happened? smile did you like rich friends, or did you downgrade your opinion of me? biggrin

it's the latter, isn't it neutral

biggrin listening now on my new airpods and it sounds better and more interesting than I remember. Don't know if I'd call it superb but my opinion of you is still pretty high! I agree on Same Page Different Book; love it. Even Shelby's rap wink


well, i'm prone to just the slightes exaggeration lol



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