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Thread started 12/29/18 9:41am

2freaky4church
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Let me be frank. New songs on Crystal Ball better than older boots.

Goodbye, Ripoff, She Gave Her Angels, 2Morrow, DaBang, Calhoun Square, Acknowledge Me, pure bombs. Sure, Crystall Ball and Last Heart are better but these newer ones dominate. Dream Factory is excellent but Goodbye creams it.

Prince was making a statement. Dissing my new jams is ignorant.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 12/29/18 9:54am

novabrkr

I happen to think that the DF / CB / SOTT era tracks on the release would still be considered a TOP5 album by most had they been released on a record on their own.

Sure, I love tracks like "Acknowledge Me" and "Days Of Wild" ("Goodbye" is also a guilty pleasure"), but on that 3CD set it's pretty easy to observe how his music got more juvenile in the 90s.

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Reply #2 posted 12/29/18 2:56pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Goodbye, Ripoff, She Gave Her Angels, 2Morrow, DaBang, Calhoun Square, Acknowledge Me, pure bombs. Sure, Crystall Ball and Last Heart are better but these newer ones dominate. Dream Factory is excellent but Goodbye creams it.

Prince was making a statement. Dissing my new jams is ignorant.


"Well tell me somethin' I don't know, Two-Four!"

Always thought so. "She Gave" and "Strays", not to mention what's his name,
And the Bone, I almost forgot the Bone, how could I.

I'm late on building the track list below.
It's a statement alright.




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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #3 posted 12/30/18 12:13am

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novabrkr said:

I happen to think that the DF / CB / SOTT era tracks on the release would still be considered a TOP5 album by most had they been released on a record on their own.

Sure, I love tracks like "Acknowledge Me" and "Days Of Wild" ("Goodbye" is also a guilty pleasure"), but on that 3CD set it's pretty easy to observe how his music got more juvenile in the 90s.


Why is Goodbye a "guilty pleasure"? It's a great track.

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Reply #4 posted 12/30/18 1:53am

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Well I think he purposely held off a lot from CB for whatever reason - because it was an experiment, because he wanted to concentrate on more recent material (whilst still trading on the cache of the Crystal Ball name though), didn't want to blow his Vault load too early, whatever.

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Something like Make Yo Mama Happy whilst chirpy enough is hardly top drawer material, there's dozens of songs that could've been included over it. I also think the mixed bag approach to the tracklisting doesn't help individual tracks shine. Dream Factory is a fun pop number, but out of its original context sounds completely throwaway. Crystal Ball itself is majestic, but glimmers far less on this set despite being the title track. Most of us knew CB, DF, Last Heart and had had years to get to know those songs, whereas Da Bang, Calhoun Square were not widely circulating previously iirc.

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The 93/94 tracks remain great standalone pop songs and should've been on their respective albums for the most part and don't feel spoiled as much by the loud mastering on the set.

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Reply #5 posted 12/30/18 2:38am

novabrkr

MattyJam said:

novabrkr said:

I happen to think that the DF / CB / SOTT era tracks on the release would still be considered a TOP5 album by most had they been released on a record on their own.

Sure, I love tracks like "Acknowledge Me" and "Days Of Wild" ("Goodbye" is also a guilty pleasure"), but on that 3CD set it's pretty easy to observe how his music got more juvenile in the 90s.


Why is Goodbye a "guilty pleasure"? It's a great track.


It's a very,very cheesy track. The mid-90s R&P / pop beat doesn't help toning down the impression either.

But it works and is an emjoyable track to me, nevertheless.

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Reply #6 posted 12/30/18 8:25am

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The funny thing is if we think he s looking at his new unreleased stuff being superior he used AN OLD title to sell it and push it. Also most of the new songs were also kind of older, Goodbye was held off Emancipation What’s my Name and Strays were on COME and should have stayed on it. I think all these songs are really good and time period wise I don’t really care I think you grow and you try new things as you grow, people will dig it and not dig it. Also Ripop was supposed to be on GOLD
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"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #7 posted 12/30/18 10:59am

Urine

Along with Anthology it's my fave album.
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Reply #8 posted 12/30/18 1:32pm

Freek99999

I'm so glad Ripopgodazippa wasn't on TGE, I hate that track and love that album.

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Reply #9 posted 12/30/18 2:00pm

EmmaMcG

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I thought your name was 2freaky4church1 but if you want people to call you Frank, then so be it.
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Reply #10 posted 12/30/18 2:40pm

pinkcashmere23

I loved the newer songs along with the older boots and I think it's a nice mix of both.

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Reply #11 posted 12/31/18 3:40am

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novabrkr said:



MattyJam said:




novabrkr said:


I happen to think that the DF / CB / SOTT era tracks on the release would still be considered a TOP5 album by most had they been released on a record on their own.



Sure, I love tracks like "Acknowledge Me" and "Days Of Wild" ("Goodbye" is also a guilty pleasure"), but on that 3CD set it's pretty easy to observe how his music got more juvenile in the 90s.




Why is Goodbye a "guilty pleasure"? It's a great track.




It's a very,very cheesy track. The mid-90s R&P / pop beat doesn't help toning down the impression either.



But it works and is an emjoyable track to me, nevertheless.





I don't really see it as any cheesier than the other ballads he was producing around that time. It's certainly not Arms of Orion levels of cheese (but then, what is?).

The only thing dated about it is the cheap ass drum programming. The rest of the song is fine as it is, and miles better than any of the ballads you'll find on Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth and AOA imo.
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/18 11:37am

steakfinger

I don't know who Frank is, but he's mostly wrong.

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Reply #13 posted 12/31/18 12:57pm

dodger

I agree Frank. I was very happy to get the 93-96 tracks. Especially Acknowledge Me; I couldn't get enough of that on my shitty bootleg cassette and Beautiful Experience VHS.
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Reply #14 posted 01/01/19 2:35am

Romeoblu

I used to listen to it split up. 80' tracks separated on disc 90's on another and ditched the remixes.

However a couple of years ago I started just listening to it as it is and find highly enjoyable. I really love disc 2.
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Reply #15 posted 01/01/19 9:14am

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I could do without Cloreen Bacon Skin but the rest is mostly great with the odd few good ones in there for good measure.

RIP sad
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