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Thread started 07/27/18 6:15am

PURPLEIZED3121

How much did drugs affect P's crazy decisions that baffled US over the years?

Mods happy for you to lock this up BUT i think its a very valid point to debate?

Thus far I think we can comfortably summise that P used drugs for pain relief for many years. The use of which grew & ended with its tragic & inevitable conclusion. I now wonder how much his commercial, artistic & creative decisons were driven / influenced by drugs in general & gave us a journey of frustration & pure joy in equal measure. Specifically I am thinking about:

the name change

bad commercial decsions on singles / lack of videos

treatment of staff inc engineers / band mates etc - who oft noted his huge mood swings

his intense ability to work lonnnng hours & expect the same from others...was his stamina driven by drugs?

Bat shit crazy / genius songs - Wedding Song surely was from a bad trip!

Endless projects started & stopped

etc

The thought of his creative genius being somehow influenced by drugs upsets me greatly...yes it helped the Beatles & I guess countless others BUT I dont want it to be OUR Prince.

[Discussion over here - luv4u http://prince.org/msg/7/455747

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Reply #1 posted 07/27/18 6:28am

PennyPurple

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Well a drug convinced him to pull the Black Album.

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Reply #2 posted 07/27/18 6:36am

paulludvig

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Mods happy for you to lock this up BUT i think its a very valid point to debate?



Thus far I think we can comfortably summise that P used drugs for pain relief for many years. The use of which grew & ended with its tragic & inevitable conclusion. I now wonder how much his commercial, artistic & creative decisons were driven / influenced by drugs in general & gave us a journey of frustration & pure joy in equal measure. Specifically I am thinking about:



the name change


bad commercial decsions on singles / lack of videos


treatment of staff inc engineers / band mates etc - who oft noted his huge mood swings


his intense ability to work lonnnng hours & expect the same from others...was his stamina driven by drugs?


Bat shit crazy / genius songs - Wedding Song surely was from a bad trip!


Endless projects started & stopped


etc



The thought of his creative genius being somehow influenced by drugs upsets me greatly...yes it helped the Beatles & I guess countless others BUT I dont want it to be OUR Prince.





Many, if not most, of the peculiarities you mention were typical of Prince from the start. It is who he was.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #3 posted 07/27/18 7:08am

rogifan

Arggggg..... make it stop.....
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #4 posted 07/27/18 7:46am

rdhull

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rogifan said:

Argggggg...... make it stop.....

you can usually tell what type of thread/thought pocess is going to be by the orgers chosen screen name lol

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #5 posted 07/27/18 8:39am

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Geniuses you know are often a little different than most. Einstein apaarently used to stink up the whole house but we dont remember that lol.

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Reply #6 posted 07/27/18 11:45am

IstenSzek

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rdhull said:

rogifan said:

Argggggg...... make it stop.....

you can usually tell what type of thread/thought pocess is going to be by the orgers chosen screen name lol


the thing i'm noticing more and more is that all the 'cough' special 'cough' posters
have usernames that are very similar. it's all just a bunch of caps n numbers to me
at this point. i don't even bother to actually read what it says. i do stumble into the
threads they make from time to time, just to see if we're making progress as people.

i guess you know how often i'm disappointed smile


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #7 posted 07/27/18 12:25pm

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Actually, learning he had a long term drug addiction , looking back in retrospect SO much of what he did makes sense now.
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Reply #8 posted 07/27/18 12:36pm

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rogifan said:

Argggggg...... make it stop.....

No kidding. confused

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #9 posted 07/27/18 12:55pm

rogifan

purplethunder3121 said:



rogifan said:


Arggggg..... make it stop.....

No kidding. confused


I swear 10 years from now there will still be a drug investigation thread with people spouting off their theories/conspiracies. sigh
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Reply #10 posted 07/27/18 1:09pm

thedoorkeeper

Don't care.
Not interested.
All I'm interested in is the product he made.
As with any artist I love/admire its their work that I have a connection with not their private life.
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Reply #11 posted 07/27/18 1:30pm

luvsexy4all

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Mods happy for you to lock this up BUT i think its a very valid point to debate?

Thus far I think we can comfortably summise that P used drugs for pain relief for many years. The use of which grew & ended with its tragic & inevitable conclusion. I now wonder how much his commercial, artistic & creative decisons were driven / influenced by drugs in general & gave us a journey of frustration & pure joy in equal measure. Specifically I am thinking about:

the name change

bad commercial decsions on singles / lack of videos

treatment of staff inc engineers / band mates etc - who oft noted his huge mood swings

his intense ability to work lonnnng hours & expect the same from others...was his stamina driven by drugs?

Bat shit crazy / genius songs - Wedding Song surely was from a bad trip!

Endless projects started & stopped

etc

The thought of his creative genius being somehow influenced by drugs upsets me greatly...yes it helped the Beatles & I guess countless others BUT I dont want it to be OUR Prince.

dont worry wont get locked...i didnt start it

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Reply #12 posted 07/27/18 1:30pm

OperatingTheta
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None.

You're referring to the artistic temperament.
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Reply #13 posted 07/27/18 3:13pm

PURPLEIZED3121

rogifan said:

Argggggg...... make it stop.....

it will never stop!..it's only just starting my friend!

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Reply #14 posted 07/27/18 3:14pm

PURPLEIZED3121

IstenSzek said:

rdhull said:

you can usually tell what type of thread/thought pocess is going to be by the orgers chosen screen name lol


the thing i'm noticing more and more is that all the 'cough' special 'cough' posters
have usernames that are very similar. it's all just a bunch of caps n numbers to me
at this point. i don't even bother to actually read what it says. i do stumble into the
threads they make from time to time, just to see if we're making progress as people.

i guess you know how often i'm disappointed smile


much appreciated....yep I am indeed a 'special' poster !

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Reply #15 posted 07/27/18 3:17pm

rdhull

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

IstenSzek said:


the thing i'm noticing more and more is that all the 'cough' special 'cough' posters
have usernames that are very similar. it's all just a bunch of caps n numbers to me
at this point. i don't even bother to actually read what it says. i do stumble into the
threads they make from time to time, just to see if we're making progress as people.

i guess you know how often i'm disappointed smile


much appreciated....yep I am indeed a 'special' poster !

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #16 posted 07/27/18 3:18pm

PURPLEIZED3121

Krystalkisses said:

Actually, learning he had a long term drug addiction , looking back in retrospect SO much of what he did makes sense now.

ahhh, a sensible reply. Exactly the point of this thread...as more info comes out the more many start to revaluate Prince as an artist, as a person & re-assess what made him the way he was.

He was a HUGE part of most of our lives & we invested time, $ & emotion...re-evaluation shows more emotional intelligence rather than the blind continued hate of prince OR likewise the obsessive love / he can do no wrong that is oft displayed on here.

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Reply #17 posted 07/27/18 3:29pm

rdhull

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Krystalkisses said:

Actually, learning he had a long term drug addiction , looking back in retrospect SO much of what he did makes sense now.

ahhh, a sensible reply. Exactly the point of this thread...

except from jump street the ridiculousness of your title etc leaves out all the positive and creativity he put out when he was supposedly on drugs etc or whatever your trying to push..its Philosophy 101..or Critical Thinking 101..

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #18 posted 07/27/18 3:31pm

PURPLEIZED3121

rdhull said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

ahhh, a sensible reply. Exactly the point of this thread...

except from jump street the ridiculousness of your title etc leaves out all the positive and creativity he put out when he was supposedly on drugs etc or whatever your trying to push..its Philosophy 101..or Critical Thinking 101..

well jump off the thread then & read a book perhaps...buh bye!

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Reply #19 posted 07/27/18 3:33pm

rdhull

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

rdhull said:

except from jump street the ridiculousness of your title etc leaves out all the positive and creativity he put out when he was supposedly on drugs etc or whatever your trying to push..its Philosophy 101..or Critical Thinking 101..

well jump off the thread then & read a book perhaps...buh bye!

Im compelled to stop trolling. I admit I need help.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #20 posted 07/27/18 3:42pm

PURPLEIZED3121

rdhull said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

well jump off the thread then & read a book perhaps...buh bye!

Im compelled to stop trolling. I admit I need help.

i'll get you LG's number!

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Reply #21 posted 07/27/18 3:54pm

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luvsexy4all said:

dont worry wont get locked...i didnt start it

lol I feel your pain.

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Reply #22 posted 07/27/18 3:57pm

rdhull

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

rdhull said:

Im compelled to stop trolling. I admit I need help.

i'll get you LG's number!

who's LG?

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #23 posted 07/27/18 4:17pm

precioux

rdhull said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

i'll get you LG's number!

who's LG?

Larry Grahm... admitting you have a problem is the first step... falloff - just stirthepot ...don't mind me lol

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Reply #24 posted 07/27/18 4:40pm

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rdhull said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

much appreciated....yep I am indeed a 'special' poster !


you're too kind rd. some people just shouldn't try at all nod smile

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Reply #25 posted 07/27/18 5:19pm

SkipperLove

Probably a hybrid of his own temperment/issues and drugs depending on what we are talking about. Illogical behavior usually comes from dysfunction. But unconventional thinking if it seems backed up by some kind of rationale isn't necessarily illogical. That's what makes it a bit hard to tell. I imagine its something in between.

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Reply #26 posted 07/27/18 5:21pm

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Oh what a sad thread.. confused confused confused

ps to me being in pain and taking medicin to find peace,

that's not drug addiction (imho)

P wasn't a drug addict, shame shame shame on those who think so neutral


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Reply #27 posted 07/27/18 7:10pm

che777x

Leave Prince alone, already. He was the ultimate artist. Artists do things most of us would not dare do. That’s one of the many reasons we follow, admire them, emulate and envy them.

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Reply #28 posted 07/27/18 7:21pm

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We’ll obviously never know, and believe what we want. I think, given the facts of his death, and the nature of his life, the OP is asking fair questions, which will linger and multiply as time goes on. It was, for me, one of the tragedies of his death - that the myth of the hyper productive / how did he do it? / does he even sleep? sober-minded genius would be questioned.
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Another fact: for someone stone cold sober, he sure sang about (not doing) drugs a lot. After sex, love, god, music, and dancing - probably about as much as he mentioned money. Pretty often, for something he never touched or needed. How often do you, who have never touched drugs, find yourself talking about doing it or not doing it?
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The first time I ever suspected anything truly drug-related was when I heard the lyrics to “clouds”. The use of clouds as a means of getting high is just too insidery for me to call it a coincidence. I joked about how he’s able to stay awake for all those after shows.
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Reply #29 posted 07/27/18 7:33pm

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Mintchip said:

We’ll obviously never know, and believe what we want. I think, given the facts of his death, and the nature of his life, the OP is asking fair questions, which will linger and multiply as time goes on. It was, for me, one of the tragedies of his death - that the myth of the hyper productive / how did he do it? / does he even sleep? sober-minded genius would be questioned. . Another fact: for someone stone cold sober, he sure sang about (not doing) drugs a lot. After sex, love, god, music, and dancing - probably about as much as he mentioned money. Pretty often, for something he never touched or needed. How often do you, who have never touched drugs, find yourself talking about doing it or not doing it? . The first time I ever suspected anything truly drug-related was when I heard the lyrics to “clouds”. The use of clouds as a means of getting high is just too insidery for me to call it a coincidence. I joked about how he’s able to stay awake for all those after shows.


what people seem to forget is that his band members were also awake for the rehearsal,
the soundcheck, the main show and the aftershow.

and they were mere mortals lol oh wait i guess they were all on drugs, too.



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