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Thread started 02/23/18 9:55pm

williamb610

Prince was at the top of his game on...'The Glamorous Life'!

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."

"Without love...it ain't much!"

Thoughts?

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Reply #1 posted 02/24/18 8:29am

kingricefan

To me it's an atypical Prince song- full of contradictions:

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

She don't need

A man's touch

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

Without Love

It ain't much!

So the female protoganist wants fame and fortune but thinks she doesn't need love to complete her life. Prince knew even at that young age that all the money, fame, etc. wasn't worth it if you had no love in your life.

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

I think he meant that by her 7th orgasm that she was falling in love with the provider of said waves and that it was going to mess up her plans of fame and fortune.

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Reply #2 posted 02/24/18 10:08am

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I believe it's love is forever....

williamb610 said:

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."

"Without love...it ain't much!"

Thoughts?

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Reply #3 posted 02/24/18 10:35am

bwaaatch

kingricefan said:

To me it's an atypical Prince song- full of contradictions:



She wants to lead


The Glamorous Life


She don't need


A man's touch


She wants to lead


The Glamorous Life


Without Love


It ain't much!



So the female protoganist wants fame and fortune but thinks she doesn't need love to complete her life. Prince knew even at that young age that all the money, fame, etc. wasn't worth it if you had no love in your life.



The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?



I think he meant that by her 7th orgasm that she was falling in love with the provider of said waves and that it was going to mess up her plans of fame and fortune.



I agree, I always felt it was contradictory, but if you replace “lead” with “leave” it all makes perfect sense. How confident are we that it is “lead”? Is there an official lyric sheet? And can it be trusted?
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Reply #4 posted 02/24/18 11:52am

coldasice

williamb610 said:

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).



The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?



"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."



"Without love...it ain't much!"



Thoughts?




I believe prince played drums. Sheila only played percussion.
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Reply #5 posted 02/24/18 11:53am

coldasice

coldasice said:

williamb610 said:

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).



The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?



"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."



"Without love...it ain't much!"



Thoughts?




I believe prince played drums. Sheila only played percussion.

I’m assuming you haven’t heard P’s version that dropped last year.
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Reply #6 posted 02/24/18 12:08pm

PeteSilas

williamb610 said:

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."

"Without love...it ain't much!"

Thoughts?

he was, but also like the second sheila album and i absolutely loved her third album i thought it was way beyond the other two, i played it in my car for a couple months i liked it that much. It's a lesson really, you need more than great songs to have a hit.

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Reply #7 posted 02/24/18 1:55pm

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It means that a women can live the glamorous life with or without having a man( boyfriend or husband by her side) The woman can vaildate her ownself.

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Reply #8 posted 02/24/18 2:12pm

PeteSilas

williamb610 said:

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."

"Without love...it ain't much!"

Thoughts?

oh, it's an old notion in love songs but it isn't true, that "life without love is so very lonely" as Smokey sang, and that money without love is nothing, i don't think it's true in terms of how people actually live. prince certainly never put love before business did he? anyway, "she had a problem" falling in love is a problem because it's so disruptive to your life and plans, and on the other side, isn't it things like love, joy, peace that make life meaningful?

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Reply #9 posted 02/24/18 2:48pm

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PeteSilas said:

williamb610 said:

To think, P produced and wrote this...just awesome! Of course, Sheila was on the drums and vocals(with P singing here and there).

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

"Real love...is real scary...money only pays the rent. Love me forever and that's all your life. Love is heaven sent. It's glamorous. Lead..."

"Without love...it ain't much!"

Thoughts?

oh, it's an old notion in love songs but it isn't true, that "life without love is so very lonely" as Smokey sang, and that money without love is nothing, i don't think it's true in terms of how people actually live. prince certainly never put love before business did he? anyway, "she had a problem" falling in love is a problem because it's so disruptive to your life and plans, and on the other side, isn't it things like love, joy, peace that make life meaningful?

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That was a big hit for Sheila--you couldn't get away from that song.

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She wants the glamorous life, but she also wants love at the same time -- she can't have both.

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Sounds like Prince is describing himself, LOL lol

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Reply #10 posted 02/24/18 3:09pm

williamb610

coldasice said:

coldasice said:
I believe prince played drums. Sheila only played percussion.
I’m assuming you haven’t heard P’s version that dropped last year.

Is P's version easily found like on You-usual-tubes or do I have to dig?

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Reply #11 posted 02/24/18 5:23pm

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williamb610 said:

coldasice said:

coldasice said: I’m assuming you haven’t heard P’s version that dropped last year.

Is P's version easily found like on You-usual-tubes or do I have to dig?

yes it is there and i love it

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Reply #12 posted 02/24/18 5:34pm

kingricefan

It's definately 'lead'. Here's the link to the lyrics:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=the+glamorous+life+lyrics&form=PRUSEN&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=ef20ca8624004716b25b17cfdcc517ef&sp=4&qs=AS&pq=the+glamorous+life&sk=AS1&sc=8-18&cvid=ef20ca8624004716b25b17cfdcc517ef

bwaaatch said:

kingricefan said:

To me it's an atypical Prince song- full of contradictions:

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

She don't need

A man's touch

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

Without Love

It ain't much!

So the female protoganist wants fame and fortune but thinks she doesn't need love to complete her life. Prince knew even at that young age that all the money, fame, etc. wasn't worth it if you had no love in your life.

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

I think he meant that by her 7th orgasm that she was falling in love with the provider of said waves and that it was going to mess up her plans of fame and fortune.

I agree, I always felt it was contradictory, but if you replace “lead” with “leave” it all makes perfect sense. How confident are we that it is “lead”? Is there an official lyric sheet? And can it be trusted?

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Reply #13 posted 02/24/18 7:53pm

williamb610

One of the things that I'm finding about Prince demos is that if somebody is playing some cool/special notes in the demo, Prince doesn't hesitate to use it in the final form of a completed song!

Whoever did the sax on the 'Glamorous Life' demo...Prince made sure that they damn near note for note played it the same way on the finished track. Prince, too, as he made sure to include the same keyboard flourishes on the final track.

You would think he'd change things but I guess if he found a good groove demo wise, he kept it. Same goes for The Time song 'Chocolate', with Morris saying whatever Prince said in the demo and Prince basically keeping all of his guitar and keyboard parts for the final version.

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Reply #14 posted 02/25/18 2:10am

Freek99999

that is because they're the same basic tracks, but lots of stuff was added beofre releasing them.

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Reply #15 posted 02/26/18 2:47am

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that is because they're the same basic tracks, but lots of stuff was added beofre releasing them.

Yes, It's the exact same saxophone recording by Larry Williams. The demo isn't much of a demo in the sense that it's what was used on the final record, only with lots of overdubs.

Williams comments on it in Duane's book, (from memory so forgive me if it ain't an exact quote) he kind of came expecting to record something polished, as he was usually asked to do that as a session musician, and Prince just told him to get wild and weird because that's how he wanted it, and Williams had a ball doing it.

Williamb610 you have to read that book if you're interesting in P's creative process.

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Reply #16 posted 02/26/18 4:04am

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"She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem"


that after having sex 7 times she fell in love and she had to rethink her life plans...


And I also have thought the "leave" "Lead" was intentional.


And never assume online lyrics are correct....


the part I love about Prince's version is when he messes up the 2nd verse...But there are some odd hiss and then clear parts, which makes me wonder its source.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

"She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem"


that after having sex 7 times she fell in love and she had to rethink her life plans...


And I also have thought the "leave" "Lead" was intentional.


And never assume online lyrics are correct....


the part I love about Prince's version is when he messes up the 2nd verse...But there are some odd hiss and then clear parts, which makes me wonder its source.

that 7th wave ...

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this is another timeless MASTERPIECE...purple music is so alive

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Reply #19 posted 02/26/18 6:29am

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Larry William(sax)

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Reply #20 posted 02/26/18 6:32am

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Larry William(sax)

Nice mustache ^^

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Reply #21 posted 02/26/18 7:41am

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bwaaatch said:

kingricefan said:

To me it's an atypical Prince song- full of contradictions:

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

She don't need

A man's touch

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

Without Love

It ain't much!

So the female protoganist wants fame and fortune but thinks she doesn't need love to complete her life. Prince knew even at that young age that all the money, fame, etc. wasn't worth it if you had no love in your life.

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

I think he meant that by her 7th orgasm that she was falling in love with the provider of said waves and that it was going to mess up her plans of fame and fortune.

I agree, I always felt it was contradictory, but if you replace “lead” with “leave” it all makes perfect sense. How confident are we that it is “lead”? Is there an official lyric sheet? And can it be trusted?

[She wants to ]lead

The Glamorous Life

She don't need

A man's touch...

Its just a reprise of the chorus

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Reply #22 posted 02/26/18 7:48am

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bwaaatch said:

kingricefan said:

To me it's an atypical Prince song- full of contradictions:

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

She don't need

A man's touch

She wants to lead

The Glamorous Life

Without Love

It ain't much!

So the female protoganist wants fame and fortune but thinks she doesn't need love to complete her life. Prince knew even at that young age that all the money, fame, etc. wasn't worth it if you had no love in your life.

The lyrics..."She made love...by the seventh wave...she knew she had a problem." What does that even mean?

I think he meant that by her 7th orgasm that she was falling in love with the provider of said waves and that it was going to mess up her plans of fame and fortune.

I agree, I always felt it was contradictory, but if you replace “lead” with “leave” it all makes perfect sense. How confident are we that it is “lead”? Is there an official lyric sheet? And can it be trusted?

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#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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Reply #23 posted 02/26/18 8:00am

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I believe that they were playing with the lead/leave thing...


but then I thought, until maybe a year ago, that she said "Love would only come from the hand" when it is "Love would only conquer my head."

(mine is better)

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Reply #24 posted 02/26/18 8:51am

williamb610

databank said:

Freek99999 said:

that is because they're the same basic tracks, but lots of stuff was added beofre releasing them.

Yes, It's the exact same saxophone recording by Larry Williams. The demo isn't much of a demo in the sense that it's what was used on the final record, only with lots of overdubs.

Williams comments on it in Duane's book, (from memory so forgive me if it ain't an exact quote) he kind of came expecting to record something polished, as he was usually asked to do that as a session musician, and Prince just told him to get wild and weird because that's how he wanted it, and Williams had a ball doing it.

Williamb610 you have to read that book if you're interesting in P's creative process.

I was wondering, if it was essential reading. If it discusses how Prince came up with things, I guess it is. I'll buy an e-Copy on Amazon! Thanks databank!

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OldFriends4Sale said:

this is another timeless MASTERPIECE...purple music is so alive

R-363044-1118742115.jpg.jpg

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Sheila was so pretty!! She has aged very well -- she's still gorgeous! She is such an inspiration to so many women, not just musically, but in the sense that she is still doing her thang, and doing it well. I turned 50 this year and I'm like "I'm getting so old", then I see Sheila......who is like 60, and then I'm like.....whoa, look at what she's doing -- then, I feel better about myself. lol

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Reply #26 posted 02/27/18 8:45am

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cloveringold85 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

this is another timeless MASTERPIECE...purple music is so alive

R-363044-1118742115.jpg.jpg

.

Sheila was so pretty!! She has aged very well -- she's still gorgeous! She is such an inspiration to so many women, not just musically, but in the sense that she is still doing her thang, and doing it well. I turned 50 this year and I'm like "I'm getting so old", then I see Sheila......who is like 60, and then I'm like.....whoa, look at what she's doing -- then, I feel better about myself. lol

Right? i look at all the legends and say..damn they doing it like that at 60, 70? I got no complaints!

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williamb610 said:



databank said:




Freek99999 said:


that is because they're the same basic tracks, but lots of stuff was added beofre releasing them.



Yes, It's the exact same saxophone recording by Larry Williams. The demo isn't much of a demo in the sense that it's what was used on the final record, only with lots of overdubs.


Williams comments on it in Duane's book, (from memory so forgive me if it ain't an exact quote) he kind of came expecting to record something polished, as he was usually asked to do that as a session musician, and Prince just told him to get wild and weird because that's how he wanted it, and Williams had a ball doing it.


Williamb610 you have to read that book if you're interesting in P's creative process.




I was wondering, if it was essential reading. If it discusses how Prince came up with things, I guess it is. I'll buy an e-Copy on Amazon! Thanks databank!


It's the best documented work ever about Prince's creative and recording process. It only covers 2 years but hopefully more will come.
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databank said:

williamb610 said:

I was wondering, if it was essential reading. If it discusses how Prince came up with things, I guess it is. I'll buy an e-Copy on Amazon! Thanks databank!

It's the best documented work ever about Prince's creative and recording process. It only covers 2 years but hopefully more will come.

Yes it is, I was so suprised and happy that we got words from Williams, David Coleman, Jonathan, and others that had key parts like strings etc

Sheila E has yet to ever talk about the recording process in detail.

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A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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databank said:


williamb610 said:



I was wondering, if it was essential reading. If it discusses how Prince came up with things, I guess it is. I'll buy an e-Copy on Amazon! Thanks databank!



It's the best documented work ever about Prince's creative and recording process. It only covers 2 years but hopefully more will come.


Yes it is, I was so suprised and happy that we got words from Williams, David Coleman, Jonathan, and others that had key parts like strings etc



Sheila E has yet to ever talk about the recording process in detail.


Unfortunately she won't. She seems uncomfortable discussing Prince and acknowledging the part he played in her first 2 albums. I don't know why, God knows she had a great career before and since, she has nothing to prove.
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