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Thread started 12/12/17 7:48am

PURPLEIZED3121

RE Bootlegs: Do U agree that P's choice of tracks for most of his classic albums was spot on?

I have lost count over the years as to how many unreleased tracks we have. In all honesty & as much as I love them [especially the last few sets] I can't say that any album released would have benefitted from the tracks left off.

P.Rain - 9 tracks of utter perfection

Dirty Mind - 8 tracks ofutter perfection!

SOTT - we could configure it a million time sover BUT WB pressure was great..the set is perfect

Parade - we could easily add / chop & change...BUT the released version is stunning

LoveSexy - come on - we aint touching that!

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The list goes on. I wouldn't change a thing!

[Edited 12/12/17 9:18am]

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Reply #1 posted 12/12/17 7:54am

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Parade is my favorite Prince album, please don't touch it. It too is pure perfection wink

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Reply #2 posted 12/12/17 8:12am

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Mostly... yes. Few of the unreleased tracks are as good as the ones that were released- in the 1980s that is. (Except for No Light In a Large Room, which I think is one of his best songs ever.)
In the 1990s, for some reason, he gave some of his best songs away to singers that since then have been forgotten. Who remembers Martika or Jevetta Steele? Yet who wouldn't agree that Love Thy Will Be Done and Open Book are superior to anything on Diamonds & Pearls?
And I can understand that he thought songs like Wally and Old Friends 4 Sale were a little too personal to be released.
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Reply #3 posted 12/12/17 9:37am

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Well.. even Around The World In A Day and Parade (either one is my favorite depending on the day you ask me) have tracks I could do without. So... I may change the tracks and feel it is a better overall record, but that would cut somebody else's favorite.

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In the end, this is how Prince wanted it released so that's how it is. (apart from SOTT, the triple album Crystal Ball would have been so much better if it had been released instead)

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So... Prince's choice was his choice. That's how he presented his artistic vision. And it was great (for the most part), but I am a different person with different experiences and tastes, my choice would have been different. And probably interesting for a much smaller subset of people. smile

(I would have never released the song Purple Rain, for instance)

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Reply #4 posted 12/12/17 10:08am

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I think he could have improved:

Controversy (Tick Tick Bang, Lisa, Feel U up, Irresistible Bitch > Ronnie, Anna Stesia)

ATWIAD (Girl, Hello, SAIMH, Wonderful Ass, We can Fuck, and most of the Family album > temptation, the ladder, and tamborine)

Lovesexy: (so many songs from 86-88 > Glam Slam, Dance On, I wish u heaven)

I always swap Love Bizzare for Christopher Tracy's Parade.

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Reply #5 posted 12/12/17 10:51am

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I think he did a great job. The only track I really wish he could have found a place for is Moonbeam Levels - but I totally understand why he swapped that out for Free on 1999.

Oh - and I still think Kiss sounds horribly out of place on Parade (even Prince thought so), but I don't know what I'd replace it with.

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Reply #6 posted 12/12/17 11:20am

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LoveSexy 'imo' =

**the proverbial beginning of the end**

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Reply #7 posted 12/12/17 12:14pm

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Pretty much, yes.

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Reply #8 posted 12/12/17 1:18pm

luvsexy4all

wouldnt change anything ...just add more

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Reply #9 posted 12/12/17 1:21pm

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Hmmm, it's a great question. Not sure i would change any albums, but there are definitely some fantastic unreleased albums worth of material to be made from the bootlegs we know (configured by Prince or otherwise). I would like to hear the original Rave album for instance.

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Reply #10 posted 12/12/17 2:47pm

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Genesia said:

I think he did a great job. The only track I really wish he could have found a place for is Moonbeam Levels - but I totally understand why he swapped that out for Free on 1999.

Oh - and I still think Kiss sounds horribly out of place on Parade (even Prince thought so), but I don't know what I'd replace it with.

so do i, i've always thought In All My Dreams would've fitted on Parade

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Reply #11 posted 12/12/17 2:48pm

PURPLEIZED3121

Even a real fan splitter like Diamonds & Pearls IMHO was tracked perfectly...dare I say it...even............Jughead!...yes I went there! Look at the tracks left off ie Something Funky This House Comes, School Yard etc..non would have added any more to the album?

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Reply #12 posted 12/12/17 3:11pm

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1999, Purple Rain, ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT and Come could have been much better albums with some songs added.

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Reply #13 posted 12/12/17 3:20pm

PURPLEIZED3121

Genesia said:

I think he did a great job. The only track I really wish he could have found a place for is Moonbeam Levels - but I totally understand why he swapped that out for Free on 1999.

Oh - and I still think Kiss sounds horribly out of place on Parade (even Prince thought so), but I don't know what I'd replace it with.

great point re Kiss...but having it as the lead single & that video probably drove a lot of interest in the album. Actually , Parade could probably have had some incredible songs added - you know the ones!..BUT it still stand up IMHO.

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Reply #14 posted 12/12/17 3:21pm

PURPLEIZED3121

How about this..Days of Wild...should it have stayed on the Gold Experience or did he make the right choice to cut it?

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Reply #15 posted 12/12/17 3:34pm

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I do not like the song Glam Slam, it's a corny and weak song and slows down the album. I feel the same about "You Got The Look," it does not match the quality of the other songs on the album.

CoCo Boys would have been a better choice than YGTL (just off the top of my head).

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Reply #16 posted 12/12/17 3:39pm

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

How about this..Days of Wild...should it have stayed on the Gold Experience or did he make the right choice to cut it?

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Stayed. I don't love the song, but it does encapsulate the era, more than Now, We March, Shy, or 319.

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Reply #17 posted 12/12/17 4:20pm

PURPLEIZED3121

Mintchip said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

How about this..Days of Wild...should it have stayed on the Gold Experience or did he make the right choice to cut it?

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Stayed. I don't love the song, but it does encapsulate the era, more than Now, We March, Shy, or 319.

NOW was the reason he left it off, he said DOW was too similar so he had to pick one. I would have tracked them together for a powerfunk double whammy!

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Reply #18 posted 12/12/17 4:22pm

PURPLEIZED3121

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I do not like the song Glam Slam, it's a corny and weak song and slows down the album. I feel the same about "You Got The Look," it does not match the quality of the other songs on the album.

CoCo Boys would have been a better choice than YGTL (just off the top of my head).

Noooooooooooo! I adore Glam Slam...play it extra loud..bit like Life Could be so Nice..a big cluster of sound & melody IMHO. Thankumamn!

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Reply #19 posted 12/12/17 5:07pm

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Mintchip said:

I think he could have improved:

Controversy (Tick Tick Bang, Lisa, Feel U up, Irresistible Bitch > Ronnie, Anna Stesia)

ATWIAD (Girl, Hello, SAIMH, Wonderful Ass, We can Fuck, and most of the Family album > temptation, the ladder, and tamborine)

Lovesexy: (so many songs from 86-88 > Glam Slam, Dance On, I wish u heaven)

I always swap Love Bizzare for Christopher Tracy's Parade.



Got to disagree!

Annie Christian is my favourite song on Controversy, I Wish U Heaven is my favourite song on Lovesexy (well, it shares that spot with Annastesia), and Christopher Tracy's Parade is my favourite opening to a Prince album.



Sign o the Times, as incredible an album as it is could have been even greater. Trade Slow Love, You Got the Look, and It's Going to be a Beautiful Night, with Shockadelica, Rebirth of the Flesh, and Crystal Ball (or many other outtakes actually), and I think the album would be much stronger. Though that isn't a knock on the quality of Sign o the Times, it's a testament to the quality of the material during that period.


For the most part, I agree that Prince's classic albums were spot on. However I don't think it's safe to say that it's because the outtakes weren't as strong. Songs like Lust U Always, Purple Music, Extraloveable, All My Dreams, Others Here With Us, In a Large Room with No Light, Power Fantastic, and many others, don't necessarily belong on or make a better fit on any of his classic albums, but belong on hypothetical classic albums that never were.

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Reply #20 posted 12/12/17 8:38pm

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I like most Prince albums the way they are. Did someone say they would replace I Wish U Heaven and Christopher Tracy's Parade? Totally changes the mood of both Parade and Lovesexy
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Reply #21 posted 12/13/17 12:45am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

How about this..Days of Wild...should it have stayed on the Gold Experience or did he make the right choice to cut it?

I've always loved DOW live but find the studio version to be lacking in something.

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Reply #22 posted 12/13/17 12:45am

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"Lovesexy" is pure perfection. Untouchable.


"SOTT" is near perfection, but to some extent I would prefer "The Ball/Joy In Repetition" instead of "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night".


The only thing I would change of "Parade" is a less frantic arrangement of "Life Can Be So Nice", as it is is somewhat too chaotic.
Possible additions to the album could be "OldFriends 4 Sale" and "Neon Telephone", but I don't know what they could add to the overall flow of the whole.




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Reply #23 posted 12/13/17 12:51am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

How about this..Days of Wild...should it have stayed on the Gold Experience or did he make the right choice to cut it?

I was disappointed when I saw the final tracklist for TGE mad "Days Of Wild" is such a great song! I couldn't believe that he would remove it.

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Reply #24 posted 12/13/17 1:16am

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"Graffiti Bridge" to me is the only classic album of the gold run that could be really better than what it is.

a) Put the associated tracks (and collaborative tracks like "The Latest Fashion" and "Graffiti Bridge") in a 2nd CD and let alone a proper P album

b) Take away "Tick Tick Bang" and bring in "The Grand Progression" and "God Is Alive"

c) Let alone "Joy In Repetition" not screwing his beginning in a segue with WCF

d) Use the entire "New Power Generation (Pt.1 + Pt.2)" as the closing track, avoiding the recycling of the end of "Positivity"

e) Use the full lenght version (or maybe an edit of it) of "Thieves In The Temple"

So a better tracklist (to me) could be:

1) Can't Stop This Feeling I Got

2) Thieves In The Temple (Full Lenght Version or Edit of FLV)

3) The Question Of U

4) Elephants & Flowers

5) The Grand Progression

6) We Can Funk

7) Joy In Repetition

8) God Is Alive

9) Still Would Stand On Time

10) New Power Generation (Pt.1 + Pt. 2)




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Reply #25 posted 12/13/17 1:54am

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SoulAlive said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

How about this..Days of Wild...should it have stayed on the Gold Experience or did he make the right choice to cut it?

I was disappointed when I saw the final tracklist for TGE mad "Days Of Wild" is such a great song! I couldn't believe that he would remove it.

Yes, same for me. I must have worn out my VHS of The Beautiful Experience watching Days Of Wild then to get TGE and it not be on there was a big disappointment. As it's been said many of times on here; We March should never have made the cut ahead of DOW.

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Reply #26 posted 12/13/17 7:52am

rapper

dodger said:

SoulAlive said:

I was disappointed when I saw the final tracklist for TGE mad "Days Of Wild" is such a great song! I couldn't believe that he would remove it.

Yes, same for me. I must have worn out my VHS of The Beautiful Experience watching Days Of Wild then to get TGE and it not be on there was a big disappointment. As it's been said many of times on here; We March should never have made the cut ahead of DOW.

I agree, though I believe he left it off TGE because it sounded better live.

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Reply #27 posted 12/13/17 7:56am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

rapper said:

I do not like the song Glam Slam, it's a corny and weak song and slows down the album. I feel the same about "You Got The Look," it does not match the quality of the other songs on the album.

CoCo Boys would have been a better choice than YGTL (just off the top of my head).

Noooooooooooo! I adore Glam Slam...play it extra loud..bit like Life Could be so Nice..a big cluster of sound & melody IMHO. Thankumamn!

I totally understand, it just sounds very dated compared to the rest of the album to me.

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Reply #28 posted 12/13/17 12:13pm

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Let's re-write history!

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Reply #29 posted 12/13/17 2:40pm

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Don't be shy, let's make our own tracklist configuration for every album.

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