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Reply #30 posted 11/18/17 3:46pm

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Reverend said:

As mentioned above by Duane, you can download the first chapter for free to wet your appetite.


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Reply #31 posted 11/18/17 3:54pm

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ThePanther said:


There are indeed a lot of bad Prince books, but don't overlook Let's Go Crazy (2014) by Alan Light, which is a wonderful recounting of the c.1983-1985 Purple Rain-era recordings and movie. It's outstanding, though it sounds like (based on a cursory glance) this new one goes into finer detail about the recording sessions.

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Alan's book pathetically barely talks about how the music was created, but does spend an entire chapter on his memories of watching the movie in theatres.

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His book is a retread of already well-worn stories; if he did any interviews for it, he didn't go beyond the usual suspects and never bothers to challenge their stories. There are some jarring inserts of new information in the text, mostly published by local Minneapolis publications who did bother to look up people who were involved in the movie but weren't interviewed previously. Funny how they managed to dig up new stories while Light just rehashes "the greatest hits".

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IMHO the book is at best a compilation of a bunch of information, but if you're spending money, spend it on books like Per Nilsen's DMSR.

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Reply #32 posted 11/18/17 4:22pm

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TheVaultKeeper said:

Now Amazon says they are temporarily out of stock!


I just got it through kindle
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Reply #33 posted 11/18/17 4:23pm

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I started working through the digital version. Hardcover on backorder.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #34 posted 11/18/17 6:51pm

TheVaultKeeper

Strawberrylova123 said:

TheVaultKeeper said:

Now Amazon says they are temporarily out of stock!

I just got it through kindle

LOL! Please tell me your joking, right? Obviously, I'm talking about physical copies of the book being out of stock. Digital copies are never out of stock.

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Reply #35 posted 11/18/17 9:27pm

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TheVaultKeeper said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


TheVaultKeeper said:

Now Amazon says they are temporarily out of stock!



I just got it through kindle

LOL! Please tell me your joking, right? Obviously, I'm talking about physical copies of the book being out of stock. Digital copies are never out of stock.


Uhhh..yeah i know what you meant calm down, i was going to get a physical copy to but i didn't want to wait so i just downloaded the book instead
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Reply #36 posted 11/18/17 9:38pm

TheVaultKeeper

Strawberrylova123 said:

TheVaultKeeper said:

LOL! Please tell me your joking, right? Obviously, I'm talking about physical copies of the book being out of stock. Digital copies are never out of stock.

Uhhh..yeah i know what you meant calm down, i was going to get a physical copy to but i didn't want to wait so i just downloaded the book instead

Okay, cool. wink

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Reply #37 posted 11/18/17 9:52pm

madhouseman

EddieC said:

madhouseman said:

The coupon is for the publisher, not for Amazon. It is another way of getting the book, but at a discount. I want everyone who wants to get a copy to have a way of getting it.

Pre-ordered from Amazon myself--I wish this release were going more smoothly. You've been whetting my appetite for years with this thing, madhouseman--I'm ready for the actual feast. Any idea on when we'll get it from them? (If you've given information somewhere else, Duane, I haven't seen it).


Thank you for asking! I've been told that it should get to Amazon this Tuesday. Again, this is what I've been told by the publisher. Since I only write the book, I don't print or ship it, I have to rely on their word for this. Supposedly the publisher has their copies and will be shipping them out very soon as well to people who ordered them directly from the publisher. It sounds like the hardcover versions will be arriving next week sometime, but I'm sure that Thanksgiving isn't going to help when it comes to deliveries.


I've been waiting for everyone to read this for 20 years, so I feel your frustration! lol


I can't wait to hear everyone's reactions. Thank you again, and I hope this helps.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #38 posted 11/19/17 6:28am

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Thanks for explaining, Duane. So excited to read it!!!!!

madhouseman said:

EddieC said:

Pre-ordered from Amazon myself--I wish this release were going more smoothly. You've been whetting my appetite for years with this thing, madhouseman--I'm ready for the actual feast. Any idea on when we'll get it from them? (If you've given information somewhere else, Duane, I haven't seen it).

Thank you for asking! I've been told that it should get to Amazon this Tuesday. Again, this is what I've been told by the publisher. Since I only write the book, I don't print or ship it, I have to rely on their word for this. Supposedly the publisher has their copies and will be shipping them out very soon as well to people who ordered them directly from the publisher. It sounds like the hardcover versions will be arriving next week sometime, but I'm sure that Thanksgiving isn't going to help when it comes to deliveries.

I've been waiting for everyone to read this for 20 years, so I feel your frustration! lol

I can't wait to hear everyone's reactions. Thank you again, and I hope this helps.

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Reply #39 posted 11/19/17 7:53am

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sebastian said:

I preordered it directory from the publisher. They die not ship it until now. It seems to be out of stock sad

I also preordered it from the publisher. I was able to use a 35% coupon. I'm highly anticipating its release!!! biggrin

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Reply #40 posted 11/19/17 9:33am

mediumdry

Finished reading it over the weekend. Bought it from google play as an epub. Will go for the hardcover in a local bookstore later on.

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It was well worth the wait. It is more a story of Prince's life than what you'd expect if you are used to the Beatles Sessions. Of course, they had their administration properly done, which allows more detail. Also, they had many more takes and less tracks. smile

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Duane, thank you so much.

.

However, there is a BIG problem with this book. I now cannot wait for 85/86 and 87 (less interested in 88 onward for now).

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What's the advance that's needed to let Duane drop everything else he's got going on? razz

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Reply #41 posted 11/19/17 10:29am

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ThePanther said:



bashraka said:


I cannot wait to get my hands on this book. I look forward to reading people's thoughts on the book. Finally a book about Prince after his death that is not exploitative and self-serving by an ex-wife or other associate.




There are indeed a lot of bad Prince books, but don't overlook Let's Go Crazy (2014) by Alan Light, which is a wonderful recounting of the c.1983-1985 Purple Rain-era recordings and movie. It's outstanding, though it sounds like (based on a cursory glance) this new one goes into finer detail about the recording sessions.

Still, I recommend Light's book to everyone. Not only is it the fantastic story of Prince's finest hour, it also has a chapter discussing the confluence of pop-culture and pop-music in 1984 that was unique in American history, and which contributed to the Purple Rain phenomenon.

Can be found here:


https://www.amazon.com/Lets-Go-Crazy-Prince-Making/dp/147677675X/ref=la_B00CBKO4O0_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510966988&sr=1-1


Alan Light's book is serviceable. It haven't read the entire book but he didn't speak much on the music itself rather, he focused more on the movie and pop cultural significance he had (which was nice too).

The chapter I enjoyed the most is the one in which he speaks in PR's pop cultural significance and talks succinctly about the mainstream music landscape of the time and where the album fit in. I'd love to see him write a book dedicated to the subject of 1984's music scene; if there's anyone out there who could truly speak on that spectacular year in music, it's him.
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Reply #42 posted 11/19/17 12:49pm

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mediumdry said:

Finished reading it over the weekend. Bought it from google play as an epub. Will go for the hardcover in a local bookstore later on.


.


It was well worth the wait. It is more a story of Prince's life than what you'd expect if you are used to the Beatles Sessions. Of course, they had their administration properly done, which allows more detail. Also, they had many more takes and less tracks. smile


.


Duane, thank you so much.


.


However, there is a BIG problem with this book. I now cannot wait for 85/86 and 87 (less interested in 88 onward for now).


.


What's the advance that's needed to let Duane drop everything else he's got going on? razz


The brenda Bennett and vanity fight had me like eek
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Reply #43 posted 11/19/17 5:06pm

madhouseman

mediumdry said:

Finished reading it over the weekend. Bought it from google play as an epub. Will go for the hardcover in a local bookstore later on.

.

It was well worth the wait. It is more a story of Prince's life than what you'd expect if you are used to the Beatles Sessions. Of course, they had their administration properly done, which allows more detail. Also, they had many more takes and less tracks. smile

.

Duane, thank you so much.

.

However, there is a BIG problem with this book. I now cannot wait for 85/86 and 87 (less interested in 88 onward for now).

.

What's the advance that's needed to let Duane drop everything else he's got going on? razz

Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. One of the ways to help getting the word out there and for me to be able to do more books is to write a review on Amazon and on Goodreads.com. That would be great and I hope to be able to do 85/86 because it is an amazing story behind it.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #44 posted 11/19/17 9:47pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

mediumdry said:

Finished reading it over the weekend. Bought it from google play as an epub. Will go for the hardcover in a local bookstore later on.

.

It was well worth the wait. It is more a story of Prince's life than what you'd expect if you are used to the Beatles Sessions. Of course, they had their administration properly done, which allows more detail. Also, they had many more takes and less tracks. smile

.

Duane, thank you so much.

.

However, there is a BIG problem with this book. I now cannot wait for 85/86 and 87 (less interested in 88 onward for now).

.

What's the advance that's needed to let Duane drop everything else he's got going on? razz

The brenda Bennett and vanity fight had me like eek

There's a fight omfg lol ??????? how much are The Time & Vanity 6 covered in this book?, because most of the articles I've read in the last year they are a footnote (which pisses me off)

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #45 posted 11/19/17 10:01pm

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Goddess4Real said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


mediumdry said:

Finished reading it over the weekend. Bought it from google play as an epub. Will go for the hardcover in a local bookstore later on.


.


It was well worth the wait. It is more a story of Prince's life than what you'd expect if you are used to the Beatles Sessions. Of course, they had their administration properly done, which allows more detail. Also, they had many more takes and less tracks. smile


.


Duane, thank you so much.


.


However, there is a BIG problem with this book. I now cannot wait for 85/86 and 87 (less interested in 88 onward for now).


.


What's the advance that's needed to let Duane drop everything else he's got going on? razz



The brenda Bennett and vanity fight had me like eek


There's a fight omfg lol ????? how much are The Time & Vanity 6 covered in this book?, because most of the articles I've read in the last year they are a footnote (which pisses me off)


There's a LOT of info regarding vanity 6 the Time and Apollonia 6, for the people who said they're not interested in this book are missing out BIG time.
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Reply #46 posted 11/20/17 12:40am

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madhouseman said:



mediumdry said:


Finished reading it over the weekend. Bought it from google play as an epub. Will go for the hardcover in a local bookstore later on.


.


It was well worth the wait. It is more a story of Prince's life than what you'd expect if you are used to the Beatles Sessions. Of course, they had their administration properly done, which allows more detail. Also, they had many more takes and less tracks. smile


.


Duane, thank you so much.


.


However, there is a BIG problem with this book. I now cannot wait for 85/86 and 87 (less interested in 88 onward for now).


.


What's the advance that's needed to let Duane drop everything else he's got going on? razz




Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. One of the ways to help getting the word out there and for me to be able to do more books is to write a review on Amazon and on Goodreads.com. That would be great and I hope to be able to do 85/86 because it is an amazing story behind it.


I have a question, there's a quote from matt fink from a BBC documentary, do you recall what that documentary is titled?
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Reply #47 posted 11/20/17 10:41am

madhouseman

Strawberrylova123 said:

Goddess4Real said:

There's a fight omfg lol ??????? how much are The Time & Vanity 6 covered in this book?, because most of the articles I've read in the last year they are a footnote (which pisses me off)

There's a LOT of info regarding vanity 6 the Time and Apollonia 6, for the people who said they're not interested in this book are missing out BIG time.

Agreed! The entire first several chapters are filled with the backstory and behind the scenes of the 1999 tour. Never before published interviews highlight the story of the world of those around Prince, and Vanity 6's and The Time's stories are very well documented. In fact, there are details about songs recorded for Vanity 6's second album as well as songs for The Time that were released years later.

I'm looking forward to people reading about how closely related their stories were with Prince's.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #48 posted 11/20/17 10:47am

madhouseman

Strawberrylova123 said:

madhouseman said:

Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. One of the ways to help getting the word out there and for me to be able to do more books is to write a review on Amazon and on Goodreads.com. That would be great and I hope to be able to do 85/86 because it is an amazing story behind it.

I have a question, there's a quote from matt fink from a BBC documentary, do you recall what that documentary is titled?

Not sure which quote you are talking about but there were two BBC docs that were quoted and both are worth your time.

Prince, A Purple Reign, produced by BBC, documentary, 2011,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w

and

Purple Reign: The Story of Prince, part 2, BBC Radio, January 25, 2003, http://www.bbc.co.uk/prog...s/b00svtj7

I think the second link is no longer valid, but it may be on youtube or floating around if you are trying to find it.

Hope you enjoyed the book.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #49 posted 11/20/17 10:49am

JoeyCococo

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Now Amazon says they are temporarily out of stock!

relax all...I also ordered mine a couple of weeks ago and i just learned today, it's on the way....being shipped today. The reason seems to be high initial sales...this is a GREAT thing. If Duane makes $$...we'll get more.

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Reply #50 posted 11/20/17 11:03am

Strawberrylova
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madhouseman said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


madhouseman said:



Thank you very much! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. One of the ways to help getting the word out there and for me to be able to do more books is to write a review on Amazon and on Goodreads.com. That would be great and I hope to be able to do 85/86 because it is an amazing story behind it.



I have a question, there's a quote from matt fink from a BBC documentary, do you recall what that documentary is titled?


Not sure which quote you are talking about but there were two BBC docs that were quoted and both are worth your time.



Prince, A Purple Reign, produced by BBC, documentary, 2011,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w



and



Purple Reign: The Story of Prince, part 2, BBC Radio, January 25, 2003, http://www.bbc.co.uk/prog...s/b00svtj7



I think the second link is no longer valid, but it may be on youtube or floating around if you are trying to find it.



Hope you enjoyed the book.



It's the quote where matt was talking about prince and John L nelsons relationship
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Reply #51 posted 11/20/17 12:03pm

madhouseman

Strawberrylova123 said:

madhouseman said:

Not sure which quote you are talking about but there were two BBC docs that were quoted and both are worth your time.

Prince, A Purple Reign, produced by BBC, documentary, 2011,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w

and

Purple Reign: The Story of Prince, part 2, BBC Radio, January 25, 2003, http://www.bbc.co.uk/prog...s/b00svtj7

I think the second link is no longer valid, but it may be on youtube or floating around if you are trying to find it.

Hope you enjoyed the book.

It's the quote where matt was talking about prince and John L nelsons relationship

Are you looking at the ebook? Can you note where it is and if there is a citation after that? Thanx.

[Edited 11/20/17 12:11pm]

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #52 posted 11/20/17 12:18pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

ThePanther said:


There are indeed a lot of bad Prince books, but don't overlook Let's Go Crazy (2014) by Alan Light, which is a wonderful recounting of the c.1983-1985 Purple Rain-era recordings and movie. It's outstanding, though it sounds like (based on a cursory glance) this new one goes into finer detail about the recording sessions.

.

Alan's book pathetically barely talks about how the music was created, but does spend an entire chapter on his memories of watching the movie in theatres.

.

His book is a retread of already well-worn stories; if he did any interviews for it, he didn't go beyond the usual suspects and never bothers to challenge their stories. There are some jarring inserts of new information in the text, mostly published by local Minneapolis publications who did bother to look up people who were involved in the movie but weren't interviewed previously. Funny how they managed to dig up new stories while Light just rehashes "the greatest hits".

.

IMHO the book is at best a compilation of a bunch of information, but if you're spending money, spend it on books like Per Nilsen's DMSR.

I definitely need to re-read Let's Go Crazy in light of your comments because I remember it being well written, concise and focused. Yes there was a lot of re-threading of familiar stuff but that only makes sense since it was focusing on Prince's most famous period.

Compared to the likes of Matt Thorne's "here's my tedious description of and opinion on loads of unreleased songs" or utter dreck like Chaos, Disorder and Revolution I would generally consider it a better introduction than even DMSR for any new fan.

[Edited 11/20/17 12:19pm]

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Reply #53 posted 11/20/17 1:11pm

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madhouseman said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


madhouseman said:



Not sure which quote you are talking about but there were two BBC docs that were quoted and both are worth your time.



Prince, A Purple Reign, produced by BBC, documentary, 2011,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w



and



Purple Reign: The Story of Prince, part 2, BBC Radio, January 25, 2003, http://www.bbc.co.uk/prog...s/b00svtj7



I think the second link is no longer valid, but it may be on youtube or floating around if you are trying to find it.



Hope you enjoyed the book.




It's the quote where matt was talking about prince and John L nelsons relationship



Are you looking at the ebook? Can you note where it is and if there is a citation after that? Thanx.

[Edited 11/20/17 12:11pm]


No i have a knook, the quote is on page #272
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Reply #54 posted 11/20/17 1:24pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

Here is a super thread so the fans can discuss 😊 book has a lot of info

[list]
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Reply #55 posted 11/20/17 1:37pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:
Here is a super thread so the fans can discuss 😊 book has a lot of info
[list]



Strawberrylova123, did you ask a mod to sticky this thread?

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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #56 posted 11/20/17 1:52pm

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Mumio said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


Strawberrylova123 said:
Here is a super thread so the fans can discuss 😊 book has a lot of info

[list]



Strawberrylova123, did you ask a mod to sticky this thread?

[Edited 11/20/17 13:40pm]


No, how do i do that??
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Reply #57 posted 11/20/17 2:34pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

Mumio said:



Strawberrylova123, did you ask a mod to sticky this thread?

[Edited 11/20/17 13:40pm]

No, how do i do that??


If you go to the top of the forum page, you'll see the names of the mods there. You can pick one, but go with either Luv, or Old Friends 4 Sale, Langebleu, or Militant (because we see them here frequently) and send an org note asking them to sticky this thread.

[Edited 11/20/17 14:36pm]

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Yaay a sticky
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