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Thread started 10/15/17 9:56pm

williamb610

We need a proper Prince documentary...

We need a good Prince documentary, in the same vein as Netflix's 'Mr. Dynamite: The Rise of James Brown'.

Just a feel good documentary about the happy times of Prince in concert and his life and him playing instruments and discussions with his former bandmembers.

Estate, if you're listening, heed my words, please.

Something celebrating the wonderful life of P. No sadness, but happiness!

Peace...

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Reply #1 posted 10/15/17 10:03pm

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I just saw the "The Prince Story: Icon, Genius... Slave" docu-drama last night. Very depressing! I know that sadness and tragedy are an important part of his story, but we wouldn't be fans if it weren't for the glory and majesty of his craft. I'd like to see something focusing more on that side of things.

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Reply #2 posted 10/15/17 10:10pm

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Maybe, I'll change my mind on the James Brown documentary. Some of the band members are giving their opinions on him and it's less than flattering. I'm watching it as I type this.

We need a lovefest of Prince on video from people who loved him, like we do. I don't want to hear the negative opinions of band members. We get enough negativity from the news.

Any recent documentaries on Prince are not from people who love him but opportunists(The Prince Story: Icon, etc.) who want to exploit his death. I want a positive documentary that doesn't even mention his death, just his undying love of music.

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Reply #3 posted 10/15/17 10:37pm

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I’ve said it before, but I’d love to see a serious documentary by a director capable of creating a work art in its own right. I agree that it should focus on Prince’s impact as an artist and cultural figure, but I find documentaries that are purely celebratory slightly tacky. Prince’s work and career raises all sorts of interesting questions regarding art, race, identity, freedom of expression and individuality, and not all of them are easy or comfortable. I’d just like to see a serious, thoughtful document of his importance as an artist.

Personally, I think that someone like Steve McQueen would be a perfect candidate (Hunger, 12 Years a Slave). He’s a respected artist in his own right and an admirer of Prince. Part of me doubts that he would consider it a good move for him personally, but he’d approach the project with intelligence and taste.


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Reply #4 posted 10/15/17 10:43pm

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I'm still waiting on the Betty Davis documentary... confused

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Reply #5 posted 10/15/17 10:53pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

I'm still waiting on the Betty Davis documentary... confused

Yes, me too - she really deserves wider recognition.

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Reply #6 posted 10/16/17 5:22pm

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Unless it's done by Spike Lee or one of the Burns brothers, I don't want to see it .

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Reply #7 posted 10/16/17 5:47pm

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Still too early. Once the estate is settled and all rights are secured then we can have a proper documentary with old footages of concerts, rehearsals, never seen before behind the scenes footage on movie sets along with interviews and more. Until that estate stuff dust settles - then I can patiently wait. In addition, I am sure Prince had some unreleased documentaries in that vault that's ready to go.
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Reply #8 posted 10/16/17 9:33pm

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Reply #9 posted 10/16/17 11:50pm

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fen said:

I’ve said it before, but I’d love to see a serious documentary by a director capable of creating a work art in its own right. I agree that it should focus on Prince’s impact as an artist and cultural figure, but I find documentaries that are purely celebratory slightly tacky. Prince’s work and career raises all sorts of interesting questions regarding art, race, identity, freedom of expression and individuality, and not all of them are easy or comfortable. I’d just like to see a serious, thoughtful document of his importance as an artist.

Personally, I think that someone like Steve McQueen would be a perfect candidate (Hunger, 12 Years a Slave). He’s a respected artist in his own right and an admirer of Prince. Part of me doubts that he would consider it a good move for him personally, but he’d approach the project with intelligence and taste.


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Agree with the thread - there's yet to be a documentary to satisfy us here on the org, apart for the BBC Omnibus documentary which was great at the time - but that was back in the early 90's. That's what the BBC are the best at - making documentaries (most of the time, ahem).

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I was always envious when Scorcese made great documentaries on Bob Dylan & The Rolling Stones, why a Prince documentary doesn't get this level of detail and quality in its' crafting. Steve McQueen seems like a good shout though.

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However, will we ever be fully satisfied? If you're reading this response, you have to be a pretty big Prince fan as it is - and that's a tough ask - although, I'm sure, we all think we could personally make a decent fist of it, so why can't an excellent film-maker?

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My only worry is that one really long bland documentary that reveals nothing we don't already know will come out and put other potentially better documetary-makers off making one.

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Reply #10 posted 10/17/17 5:59am

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I heard the BBC had one in early development but it came unstuck because of issues with the estate / rights.

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I'd love to see a proper documentary - but I worry that Prince's output was so huge, and his career so damn long, it'll be difficult to do it justice in the timeslot likely to given to it by a regular broadcaster. It's not like there are long stretches of his career you can just gloss over when he wasn't doing much. I just hope someone's willing to commit to something on the scale of the ESPN "OJ" doc.

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Reply #11 posted 10/17/17 2:23pm

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There's an awful lot to fit in one documentary, I dunno if it could be done to any level of satisfaction. Alan Light's Purple Rain book alone would make the basis for a great documentary. I'd love to see a dedicated Symbol years doc as well...
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Reply #12 posted 10/17/17 10:33pm

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Channel 5 who made their Prince doc are known for sensationalism which is why it focused on negative aspects. A more mainstream one would have talking heads aka the George Michael documentary and ones who aren't directly or even indirectly connected to Prince. Really you need Spike to make one but again it's likely it would be focused around Purple Rain or the 1999 to Lovesexy era. There should be a Prince documentary series like the Beatles Anthology where everything is covered. It's appeal might be limited but if they find the right director and subject matter it could be great.
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Reply #13 posted 10/18/17 6:57am

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Unless it's done by Spike Lee or one of the Burns brothers, I don't want to see it .

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Yeah, because there are no other capable documentarians out there. Suuuuuure.

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Reply #14 posted 10/19/17 10:44am

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So much matetial to work with it would almost need to be in multiple parts. But i too dream of seeing it done one day.
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Reply #15 posted 10/19/17 10:53am

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Probably only Ken Burns could pull it off, and it would have to span several hours.

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Reply #16 posted 10/19/17 11:07am

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williamb610 said:

We need a good Prince documentary, in the same vein as Netflix's 'Mr. Dynamite: The Rise of James Brown'.



Just a feel good documentary about the happy times of Prince in concert and his life and him playing instruments and discussions with his former bandmembers.



Estate, if you're listening, heed my words, please.



Something celebrating the wonderful life of P. No sadness, but happiness!



Peace...



Thank you so much for saying that. We do not have a proper documentary on Prince. Contrary to Popular belief, "Possessed" or The Rise Of Prince is not it...
[Edited 10/19/17 11:10am]
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Reply #17 posted 10/19/17 11:44am

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purplethunder3121 said:

I'm still waiting on the Betty Davis documentary... confused

Now that is a documentary under Prince as well I would love to see. Her music is so crazy is odd especially for her time period. Talking about whipping a man with a chain with a chain and bar hopping all night. Good sh*t

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Reply #18 posted 10/19/17 8:00pm

williamb610

luvgirl said:

williamb610 said:

We need a good Prince documentary, in the same vein as Netflix's 'Mr. Dynamite: The Rise of James Brown'.

Just a feel good documentary about the happy times of Prince in concert and his life and him playing instruments and discussions with his former bandmembers.

Estate, if you're listening, heed my words, please.

Something celebrating the wonderful life of P. No sadness, but happiness!

Peace...

Thank you so much for saying that. We do not have a proper documentary on Prince. Contrary to Popular belief, "Possessed" or The Rise Of Prince is not it... [Edited 10/19/17 11:10am]

No problemo!

Just saying what most of us who love Prince feel! I was inspired by watching the James Brown documentary!

Listen up, Estate!

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Reply #19 posted 10/19/17 10:41pm

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paisleypark4 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I'm still waiting on the Betty Davis documentary... confused

Now that is a documentary under Prince as well I would love to see. Her music is so crazy is odd especially for her time period. Talking about whipping a man with a chain with a chain and bar hopping all night. Good sh*t

The trailer for the Betty Davis doc looked really good and the film-makers raised funds for it...but didn't quite make the mark. I haven't heard anything since then... sad

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Reply #20 posted 10/19/17 10:42pm

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williamb610 said:

luvgirl said:

williamb610 said: Thank you so much for saying that. We do not have a proper documentary on Prince. Contrary to Popular belief, "Possessed" or The Rise Of Prince is not it... [Edited 10/19/17 11:10am]

No problemo!

Just saying what most of us who love Prince feel! I was inspired by watching the James Brown documentary!

Listen up, Estate!

I wonder how much of that aborted Kevin Smith doc footage was actually completed...

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Reply #21 posted 10/19/17 11:56pm

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Why would we need a documentary?

Isn't stuff documented well enough already?

Would anything new come out?

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Reply #22 posted 10/20/17 12:02am

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udo said:

Why would we need a documentary?

Isn't stuff documented well enough already?

Would anything new come out?

Because really well-done documentaries reveal things we don't know about figures in history that we thought we knew all about... I'm thinking of documentaries I've seen on PBS like those done for American Experience, American Masters, and the great Ken Burn's docs on The Blues and Jazz... Also, The excellent Bob Dylan doc No Direction Home by Scorsese done for American Masters... Another great one came to mind not associated with PBS--Sound City (where Prince recorded).

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Reply #23 posted 10/20/17 1:07am

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A documentary in the vein of "O.J. Simpson: Made In America". 5-6 parts á 1.30 hour long.

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Reply #24 posted 10/20/17 4:43pm

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'Prince: R U Listening?' Due in 2017!

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Reply #25 posted 10/21/17 6:39am

AnnaSantana

chrisslope9 said:

Unless it's done by Spike Lee or one of the Burns brothers, I don't want to see it .


Burns Brothers = yes
Spike Lee = HELL NO.
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Reply #26 posted 10/21/17 6:41am

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RodeoSchro said:

Probably only Ken Burns could pull it off, and it would have to span several hours.



I'd be happy with that.

Anyone see The Beatles Anthology??? That's the kind of Prince documentary I want.
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Reply #27 posted 10/22/17 5:44am

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fen said:

I’ve said it before, but I’d love to see a serious documentary by a director capable of creating a work art in its own right. I agree that it should focus on Prince’s impact as an artist and cultural figure, but I find documentaries that are purely celebratory slightly tacky. Prince’s work and career raises all sorts of interesting questions regarding art, race, identity, freedom of expression and individuality, and not all of them are easy or comfortable. I’d just like to see a serious, thoughtful document of his importance as an artist.

Personally, I think that someone like Steve McQueen would be a perfect candidate (Hunger, 12 Years a Slave). He’s a respected artist in his own right and an admirer of Prince. Part of me doubts that he would consider it a good move for him personally, but he’d approach the project with intelligence and taste.


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Great idea. If he'd do it, you may get a documentary for the ages.

The last few years have seen some great documentaries.

Amy (Winehouse)

What Happened, Miss Simone (N. Simone)

Little Girl Blue (Joplin)

No Direction Home (Dylan)

All Or Nothing At All (Sinatra)

Can I Be Me (Houston)

Living In The Material World (Harrison)

Marley (Bob Marley)

Most of these do not shy away from exploring the frailties of their

subjects. This does not diminish either the document or the subject.

Rather it enlarges them.

A really serious effort on Prince would be at least 2 or 3 hours,

otherwise it's not worth bothering.

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rap said:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7595904/prince-documentary-prince-r-u-listening-due-in-2017-featuring-bono-mick-jagger


What's the status of this Prince: R U Listening documentary? It looks interesting, although the focus appears to be limited to his early years. Press statements say it was due in Q2 of 2017, which is past now.
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Reply #29 posted 10/22/17 12:06pm

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controversy99 said:

rap said:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7595904/prince-documentary-prince-r-u-listening-due-in-2017-featuring-bono-mick-jagger


What's the status of this Prince: R U Listening documentary? It looks interesting, although the focus appears to be limited to his early years. Press statements say it was due in Q2 of 2017, which is past now.

It's been delayed due to legal complications.... Go figure.
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