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Reply #60 posted 07/31/17 11:52am

carmela3

Menes said:



carmela3 said:


Menes said:


What do you mean by "let it go"? What did she say that would warrant "letting it go"?


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lol u silly

I kinda made a boo boo on responding to that post. Sorry. The sauce. Thanks.




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Reply #61 posted 07/31/17 5:22pm

Misslink88

From the Rolling Stone 1985 interview, Prince Talks, by Neal Karlen

Across the street from McDonald’s, Prince spies a smaller landmark. He points to a vacant corner phone booth and remembers a teenage fight with a strict and unforgiving father. “That’s where I called my dad and begged him to take me back after he kicked me out,” he begins softly. “He said no, so I called my sister and asked her to ask him. So she did, and afterward told me that all I had to do was call him back, tell him I was sorry, and he’s take me back. So I did, and he still said no. I sat crying at that phone booth for two hours. That’s the last time I cried.”

In the years between that phone-booth breakdown and today’s pool game came forgiveness. Says Prince, “Once I made it, got my first record contract, got my name on a piece of paper and a little money in my pocket, I was able to forgive. Once I was eating every day, I became a much nicer person.” But it took many more years for the son to understand what a jazzman father needed to survive. Prince figured it out when he moved into his purple house.

“I can be upstairs at the piano, and Rande [his cook] can come in,” he says. “Her footsteps will be in a different time, and it’s real weird when you hear something that’s a totally different rhythm than what you’re playing. A lot of times that’s mistaken for conceit or not having a heart. But it’s not. And my dad’s the same way, and that’s why it was hard for him to live with anybody. I didn’t realize that until recently. When he was working or thinking, he had a private pulse going constantly inside him. I don’t know, your bloodstream beats differently.”

Pretty much like most people, his relationship with his parents was a mixture of a lot of things. I believe it was in the Oprah interview where he said something along the lines of "we each have our own journey; I respect his" when asked if they were close.

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Reply #62 posted 08/01/17 7:15pm

Menes

carmela3 said:

Menes said:

I kinda made a boo boo on responding to that post. Sorry. The sauce. Thanks.

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All is forgiven. wink

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Reply #63 posted 08/02/17 9:04am

carmela3

Menes said:



carmela3 said:


Menes said:


I kinda made a boo boo on responding to that post. Sorry. The sauce. Thanks.



lol wink

All is forgiven. wink



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Reply #64 posted 08/02/17 3:35pm

206Michelle

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Superfan1984 said:

yes! I hope she does. I meant to ask her about this but forgot. I would also like to know how John felt about the way he was portrayed in Purple Rain (and Graffiti Bridge) as a failed musician? That had to hurt...




This is what Prince had to say about it:

"That stuff about my dad was part of [director-cowriter] Al Magnoli's story," Prince explains."We used parts of my past and present to make the story pop more, but it was a story. My dad wouldn't have nothing to do with guns. He never swore, still doesn't, and never drinks." Prince looks in his rearview mirror at the car tailing him."He don't look sixty-nine, do he? He's so cool. He's got girlfriends, lots of 'em."

And he also said this:

"Nearing the turnoff that leads from Minneapolis to suburban Eden Prairie, Prince flips in another tape and peeks in the rearview mirror. John Nelson is still right behind. "It's real hard for my father to show emotion," says Prince, heading onto the highway. "He never says, 'I love you,' and when we hug or something, we bang our heads together like in some Charlie Chaplin movie. But a while ago, he was telling me how I always had to be careful. My father told me, 'If anything happens to you, I'm gone.' All I thought at first was that it was a real nice thing to say. But then I thought about it for a while and realized something. That was my father's way of saying 'I love you.'"

Neal Karlen RS 1985

It was common for people of John Nelson's generation not to say I love you. There was some variation, especially due to the large numbers of immigrant communities that existed in the early 1900s. My paternal grandmother (born 1922) was of German descent and spent part of her childhood living in St. Michael, MN, which was a German-American community for the first half of the 20th century. She lived there during the 1930s. Her parents were very good parents, but they weren't touchy feely and didn't say 'I love you.' My great-grandparents were no-nonsense type of people. That kind of demeanor was common back the, not universal, but common.
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I think that parents of many different ethnic groups in the USA are much warmer and more lovey dovey than 2 or 3 generations ago. The average family size is smaller today and having children is more of a choice today than it was 90 to 100 years ago.
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Reply #65 posted 08/02/17 6:42pm

Misslink88

I remember P tweeted a pic of him and his father with the caption "Pops always had my back." Whatever went on between them, they seemed to have found a resolution and a relationship.

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Reply #66 posted 08/02/17 7:10pm

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link? pic?

Misslink88 said:

I remember P tweeted a pic of him and his father with the caption "Pops always had my back." Whatever went on between them, they seemed to have found a resolution and a relationship.

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Reply #67 posted 08/02/17 7:18pm

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It's on Princestagram and the picture of him and his father was posted on October 22nd, 2015.

MD431Madcat said:

link? pic?

Misslink88 said:

I remember P tweeted a pic of him and his father with the caption "Pops always had my back." Whatever went on between them, they seemed to have found a resolution and a relationship.

I am here! Where R U?! Gotta broken heart again...
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Reply #68 posted 08/02/17 7:22pm

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Misslink88 said:

I remember P tweeted a pic of him and his father with the caption "Pops always had my back." Whatever went on between them, they seemed to have found a resolution and a relationship.

from what very little I saw of P's dad, I got the impression he was kooky, yes, but much more easygoing than his famous son. I doubt he had any real animosity going on during their non-speaking times.

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Reply #69 posted 08/02/17 7:25pm

carmela3

His last tour was dedicated to his dad. It's written in the tour program. Very touching.
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Reply #70 posted 08/03/17 8:33am

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Dysfunction. I can only imagine there was a lot of it with all the previous relationships and children of his parents. Blending families is rarely easy.
Age. His dad was middle-aged by the time Prince came along. I dont imagine expecting another child was met with a ton of enthusiasm. Then add in the old school mentality towards discipline and showing affection mentioned already.
Dad left family. Divorce is hard for kids. I think its especially hard for boys when dad leaves. Little boys (and big boys too) want their fathers approval. They need their fathers in their lives. They spend their entire lives living up to their fathers expectations whether they are real or imagined.
Prince's dad sounds like he was also a bit of a player. Perhaps Prince felt that was disrespectful as it relates to his mother. Perhaps his dad made more time for women than for his son. All of the above would have a negative effect on the children.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #71 posted 08/03/17 8:52am

Misslink88

sonshine said:

Dysfunction. I can only imagine there was a lot of it with all the previous relationships and children of his parents. Blending families is rarely easy. Age. His dad was middle-aged by the time Prince came along. I dont imagine expecting another child was met with a ton of enthusiasm. Then add in the old school mentality towards discipline and showing affection mentioned already. Dad left family. Divorce is hard for kids. I think its especially hard for boys when dad leaves. Little boys (and big boys too) want their fathers approval. They need their fathers in their lives. They spend their entire lives living up to their fathers expectations whether they are real or imagined. Prince's dad sounds like he was also a bit of a player. Perhaps Prince felt that was disrespectful as it relates to his mother. Perhaps his dad made more time for women than for his son. All of the above would have a negative effect on the children.

Aye, there's the rub. If he had lived in a loving, supportive, co-hesive family and enjoyed stability, he'd probably have been a plumber. His father's "hand-off" attitude towards the piano would make it irresistable. The distance between them could only have been bridged (pun intended) through music. The events he experienced, fodder for his lyrics. The deeper the pain, the farther he had to dig within.

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Reply #72 posted 08/03/17 8:57am

Misslink88

PeteSilas said:

Misslink88 said:

I remember P tweeted a pic of him and his father with the caption "Pops always had my back." Whatever went on between them, they seemed to have found a resolution and a relationship.

from what very little I saw of P's dad, I got the impression he was kooky, yes, but much more easygoing than his famous son. I doubt he had any real animosity going on during their non-speaking times.

Wasn't his father being cared for by a nurse because he had Alzheimer's? And who knows when it really set in? I agree he was probably more easygoing, perhaps even moreso once his son's career took off, if he lived vicariously through him. But I get the feeling he was genuinely proud of what P accomplished because of his "I named him Prince because I wanted him to have everything" or whatever it was.

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Reply #73 posted 08/03/17 12:04pm

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Misslink88 said:



sonshine said:


Dysfunction. I can only imagine there was a lot of it with all the previous relationships and children of his parents. Blending families is rarely easy. Age. His dad was middle-aged by the time Prince came along. I dont imagine expecting another child was met with a ton of enthusiasm. Then add in the old school mentality towards discipline and showing affection mentioned already. Dad left family. Divorce is hard for kids. I think its especially hard for boys when dad leaves. Little boys (and big boys too) want their fathers approval. They need their fathers in their lives. They spend their entire lives living up to their fathers expectations whether they are real or imagined. Prince's dad sounds like he was also a bit of a player. Perhaps Prince felt that was disrespectful as it relates to his mother. Perhaps his dad made more time for women than for his son. All of the above would have a negative effect on the children.

Aye, there's the rub. If he had lived in a loving, supportive, co-hesive family and enjoyed stability, he'd probably have been a plumber. His father's "hand-off" attitude towards the piano would make it irresistable. The distance between them could only have been bridged (pun intended) through music. The events he experienced, fodder for his lyrics. The deeper the pain, the farther he had to dig within.



You make some good points. Thanks for the reply. So very true!
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #74 posted 08/03/17 2:13pm

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PeteSilas said:



Misslink88 said:


I remember P tweeted a pic of him and his father with the caption "Pops always had my back." Whatever went on between them, they seemed to have found a resolution and a relationship.



from what very little I saw of P's dad, I got the impression he was kooky, yes, but much more easygoing than his famous son. I doubt he had any real animosity going on during their non-speaking times.


--They had some issues or they would have been on speaking terms. I still think "Current Affair" and Lawsuit had a lot to do with it. No reason why they could not have patched things up before he passed.
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Reply #75 posted 08/03/17 5:49pm

Misslink88

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

from what very little I saw of P's dad, I got the impression he was kooky, yes, but much more easygoing than his famous son. I doubt he had any real animosity going on during their non-speaking times.

--They had some issues or they would have been on speaking terms. I still think "Current Affair" and Lawsuit had a lot to do with it. No reason why they could not have patched things up before he passed.

That was in the late 90's wasn't it? I believe they did patch things up long before his father passed away. He was, after all, living in P's old house, being cared for by a nurse and probably visited. There's nothing that I've encountered that indicated they were still on the outs when he passed.

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Reply #76 posted 08/04/17 6:27am

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Misslink88 said:



laurarichardson said:


PeteSilas said:


from what very little I saw of P's dad, I got the impression he was kooky, yes, but much more easygoing than his famous son. I doubt he had any real animosity going on during their non-speaking times.



--They had some issues or they would have been on speaking terms. I still think "Current Affair" and Lawsuit had a lot to do with it. No reason why they could not have patched things up before he passed.

That was in the late 90's wasn't it? I believe they did patch things up long before his father passed away. He was, after all, living in P's old house, being cared for by a nurse and probably visited. There's nothing that I've encountered that indicated they were still on the outs when he passed.


--Nothing has come up to make it appear they were on the outs in the later years of John's life.
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Reply #77 posted 08/04/17 7:16am

carmela3

Misslink88 said:



laurarichardson said:


PeteSilas said:


from what very little I saw of P's dad, I got the impression he was kooky, yes, but much more easygoing than his famous son. I doubt he had any real animosity going on during their non-speaking times.



--They had some issues or they would have been on speaking terms. I still think "Current Affair" and Lawsuit had a lot to do with it. No reason why they could not have patched things up before he passed.

That was in the late 90's wasn't it? I believe they did patch things up long before his father passed away. He was, after all, living in P's old house, being cared for by a nurse and probably visited. There's nothing that I've encountered that indicated they were still on the outs when he passed.


Agreed.
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