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Reply #240 posted 06/26/17 3:21pm

Genesia

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rdhull said:

Doesn't anyone remember the interview where he speaks of giving Dance Electric to Andre? He mocks talking to Andre saying "You want this..its a iht, you know its a hit" in mock holier than thou speak. I think it may have been that France interview with all the extras surrounding him. Prince knew the song was a stone cold jam. And was wiling to give it up for his friend.


Yup - it was on MTV. He said that, "You want this..." in his Jamie Starr voice. It was awesome.

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Reply #241 posted 06/26/17 3:23pm

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Genesia said:

rdhull said:

Doesn't anyone remember the interview where he speaks of giving Dance Electric to Andre? He mocks talking to Andre saying "You want this..its a iht, you know its a hit" in mock holier than thou speak. I think it may have been that France interview with all the extras surrounding him. Prince knew the song was a stone cold jam. And was wiling to give it up for his friend.


Yup - it was on MTV. He said that, "You want this..." in his Jamie Starr voice. It was awesome.

Yes! that way! ..I said mock holier than thou lol

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Reply #242 posted 06/26/17 3:27pm

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I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it
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Reply #243 posted 06/26/17 3:29pm

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carlluv said:

I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it

it reminds me of "Who's paying for this Morris"

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Reply #244 posted 06/26/17 3:44pm

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EddieC said:

There could be. We just haven't heard of it yet. lol

Believe me there isn't, i own the vault, so i know what i am talkin about.

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Reply #245 posted 06/26/17 3:48pm

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carlluv said:

I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it

Its good but ...the production of the other one was just a little better to me. This is more fitting for the album however because this was the one that was in the movie.

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Reply #246 posted 06/26/17 3:48pm

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Just catching up on folks comments, interesting stuff and a good read ...

... not getting much love for The Dance Electric though. The more I listen to this, the more I have to place it in my top ten Prince songs of all time, its just banging. Such urgency in the chord progression, amazing driving beat ... honestly Prince could have rinsed this groove for thirty minutes and I'd still be in Prince heaven. This must sound so good in a club on the dancefloor.

And he didn't even released this!! I mean ... damn ... genius beyond anything that came before or we'll see again.

There's been a fair amount of love for it--on the earlier thread, before the actual separate threads for each disc. However, it's been tempered by the amount of love people have for a leaked version of the track that has extra guitar and vocals, so that they're let down by this one, since they expected that one. The leak was already pretty good quality sound, though, so I'm happy with this on its own merits.

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Reply #247 posted 06/26/17 3:53pm

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EddieC said:

DaveT said:

Just catching up on folks comments, interesting stuff and a good read ...

... not getting much love for The Dance Electric though. The more I listen to this, the more I have to place it in my top ten Prince songs of all time, its just banging. Such urgency in the chord progression, amazing driving beat ... honestly Prince could have rinsed this groove for thirty minutes and I'd still be in Prince heaven. This must sound so good in a club on the dancefloor.

And he didn't even released this!! I mean ... damn ... genius beyond anything that came before or we'll see again.

There's been a fair amount of love for it--on the earlier thread, before the actual separate threads for each disc. However, it's been tempered by the amount of love people have for a leaked version of the track that has extra guitar and vocals, so that they're let down by this one, since they expected that one. The leak was already pretty good quality sound, though, so I'm happy with this on its own merits.


Wow!! That version sounds insane ... is it easy to track down?

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Reply #248 posted 06/26/17 4:12pm

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paisleypark4 said:[quote]



carlluv said:


I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it


Its good but ...the production of the other one was just a little better to me. This is more fitting for the album however because this was the one that was in the movie.

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I guess that is the reason I love the other version better than this one. This song itself reminds of those early 80's club records. I guess that is why it has grown on me these past couple of days
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Reply #249 posted 06/26/17 5:19pm

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rdhull said:



carlluv said:


I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it

it reminds me of "Who's paying for this Morris"



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Reply #250 posted 06/26/17 7:29pm

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carlluv said:[quote]

paisleypark4 said:



carlluv said:


I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it


Its good but ...the production of the other one was just a little better to me. This is more fitting for the album however because this was the one that was in the movie.

[/quote
I guess that is the reason I love the other version better than this one. This song itself reminds of those early 80's club records. I guess that is why it has grown on me these past couple of days

This disc 2 version of Possessed is great. It's right up there with the live versions, and I definitely like it more than the previous studio version bootlegs. The disc 2 one has great urgency and really interesting musical landscape.
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Reply #251 posted 06/26/17 8:54pm

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"Love and Sex" is insane...Another potential hit.
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Reply #252 posted 06/26/17 11:10pm

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Disc 2 is worth the price of admission for this whole package. I was a little worried that I wouldn't like this disc, particularly after I heard the three tracks released before the full package. Plus I have enough boots to have heard versions of possessed, the dance electric, we can fuck/funk, and computer blue (hallway speech). That didn't leave much new material. But it turns out that the tracks I hadn't heard before are great, and the new (to my ears) versions are mostly better than what I heard before. The order of the tracks isn't great, but that's a very minor concern.

1. The Dance Electric
8/10
This is good, but way too repetitive. The vocals are passionate in places, but they drag a bit elsewhere. The best is cool, a monster groove, but then it doesn't go anywhere. Maybe it could've been a hit for P back in the day with a radio edit and then a longer version on a 12" or as an album track.

2. Love and Sex
10/10
Fantastic. I love the vocal delivery. The lyrics are interesting. The sha-la-la-la is cool. Disc 2 should have started with this song, imo.

3. Computer Blue (hallway)
10/10
This is a great, epic track. I love the three distinct sections of the guitar solo. First, there's the part where Wendy is on her knees in the movie. Then there's the father's song, very melodic section. And then this longer version adds a wild and free section after he yells "breakdown". The hallway speech reminds me in some odd way of the Doors. There is some cheesiness to this long version ("wave your hands in the air"), but the awesomeness of 95% of the track make up for it. I, like many others on the Org, have been spoiled by listening to this as a bootleg many times. As a result, I'm not playing this as much as I expected I would.

4. Electric Intercourse
7/10
The wobbly falsetto gets old fast. I don't feel much passion. The whole thing just pales in comparison to the live at First Ave version. I'm really glad this was replaced by The Beautiful Ones.

5a. Our Destiny
5/10
This is my least favorite track on the whole deluxe set. The vocals are just not up to par, from the muddy mix to Lisa's relatively weak delivery. And even the music isn't great.

5b. Roadhouse Garden
9/10
This is great. It's sparse in terms of instrumentation, which works ok because Prince's vocals are really strong and the lyrics are cool. Putting this on the back end of Our Destiny is a real shame.

6. Possessed
10/10
Wow. This is awesome. It's my favorite version, followed by the live versions, and then the studio bootlegs. The vocals really communicate a possessed, infatuated, and desperate mood. I love it. And the music is fantastic. It sounds way ahead of its time. The previous studio bootlegs always seemed like an unfinished demo, lacking punch. The guitar and drums were cool but too low energy for the lyrical content. With this new version, I was disappointed for about 30 seconds because it wasn't bringing the James Brown funk I was expecting, but then I quickly understood the brilliance of this disc 2 version.

7. Wonderful Ass
10/10
The interplay of the beat, keyboard, and guitar on this are awesome. It gets my toes tapping, my legs bouncing, and then my whole body jamming with the music. I already have it as a bootleg, but I'm listening to it a lot anyway. The only thing stopping this from being a hit, imo, is the cheeky title and chorus (see what I did there smile )

8. Velvet Kitty Cat
9/10
Yes, it's kind of slight, but it's better than what I expected. I like the new rockabilly vocal delivery.

9. Katrina's Paper Dolls
10/10
This is really cool. There's a nice melody in the chorus that makes me think this could do decently on radio, not a #1 but more like a #20 or so which would give the whole set a little more exposure. The lyrics do a nice job of communicating sadness.

10. We Can Fuck
10/10
This is awesome, deep funk. I already like the Grafitti Bridge version which follows the first 5 plus minutes of this pretty closely. The rehearsal bootleg is cool, but this disc 2 version is my favorite. The pillow talk is cool, definitely better than the Do Me Baby stuff. The groove on this is just jamming. I'm bopping my head and feet as I type, and the song isn't even playing.

11. Father's Song
7/10
This is ok. I like the main melody that made it into Computer Blue, but there's not much else happening and the instrumentation is pretty clunky. This is a bit of letdown after the previous several tracks.

This disc has a lot of great songs. It doesn't hold together as a separate album, nor does that appear to be the intention. I question the connection of some of these to Purple Rain, especially Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden which sound to me like a better fit with Around the World in a Day. But those are minor issues when we get to hear so many good, previously unreleased songs.
[Edited 6/26/17 23:28pm]
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Reply #253 posted 06/26/17 11:22pm

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DaveT said:

EddieC said:

There's been a fair amount of love for it--on the earlier thread, before the actual separate threads for each disc. However, it's been tempered by the amount of love people have for a leaked version of the track that has extra guitar and vocals, so that they're let down by this one, since they expected that one. The leak was already pretty good quality sound, though, so I'm happy with this on its own merits.


Wow!! That version sounds insane ... is it easy to track down?

My friend, its simply one of P's best. Fairly easy.

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Reply #254 posted 06/27/17 3:27am

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Maybe Mathieu Bitton (Tangerine17) has some info regarding why The Dance Electric on the set is not the finished version (IIRC he said it was taken directly from the master, so maybe he knows the reason behind the choice)...

[Edited 6/27/17 3:27am]

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Reply #255 posted 06/27/17 9:08am

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Romeoblu said:

Disc two is awesome. I kinda wish it were released separately from the main album and given a title. It's too good to be known as disc 2. From now on I'll know it as The Dance Electric album.

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Reply #256 posted 06/27/17 9:09am

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Excuse me if it has been asked before, but... who actually wrote Fathers's Song? According to both film and reissue's credits, it was John L. Nelson, but it seems that Princevault doesn't think so. Until yesterday, it was a Prince song, now it's co-written by father and son.
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Reply #257 posted 06/27/17 9:09am

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maceoparker007 said:

Havent listened to it all yet but Computer Blue....WOW just WOW

cool biggrin Gotta brother excited, haven't heard it yet, stuck out in the country, back in the city on the weekend hopefully to check it out! sad razz eye wildsign

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Reply #258 posted 06/27/17 9:19am

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rdhull said:



carlluv said:


I see that Possessed doesn't get too much love on this thread. I like it even though I like the other version better. It's still a good song and IMHO if that song was released in 83 or 84 black radio would have played the shit out of it

it reminds me of "Who's paying for this Morris"



I wanna know how the drums on that track were done? I assume it's a triggered Linn? But someone's playing that kick haaaardd.
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Reply #259 posted 06/27/17 10:23am

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We Can F*ck is awesome. Title makes you think it may be gimmicky.... quite the opposite. This is greatest hits material. I'm actually quite blown away by all the unreleased tracks, I'm now trying to understand how he picked his tracks when they were all so solid.
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Reply #260 posted 06/27/17 11:23am

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Ok, don't tell anyone but The Dance Electric is really growing on me. lol

RIP sad
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Reply #261 posted 06/27/17 11:35am

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I'm so glad We Can Fuck was included.


Al the holier than though fams the last 10 years mimicking Prince's conversion to abstaining from "bad" language fucking annoy me. It'll be delicious seeing them dismiss that sentiment now and trip over this nasty delicious stuff.

WCF is demo bliss
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Reply #262 posted 06/27/17 12:06pm

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I wonder what is God's opinion on this? razz confused

I guess P knew they could release this one day after he had changed and if something happen to him (expired) So out of his control.

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Reply #263 posted 06/27/17 1:16pm

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1. The Dance Electric: I loved this song already a lot when Andre Cymone release it on his AC album. This one has Prince singing, which is very nice to have. It also seems to be an earlier version musically (although I didn't do a 1 on 1 comparison to be honest), the beat sounds somewhat different to me which is interesting to me. I don't care the song goes on for 11.30 minutes, this groove is so strong!! 10/10

2. Love and Sex: Great jam, although a bit busy. I like the Linndrum beat, the bass, the passionate vocals, the synths, the guitar with all the effects, classic Prince shizzle! What snare sound is this though? It doesn't sound like the stock Linnndrum snare to me. Did he double it with a live snare maybe? Or did he use another snare EPROM in the Linndrum? 8/10

3. Computer Blue (hallway version): Fantastic, absolutely amazing to hear in this quality! I am also very happy about the fact I haven't worn out too many bootlegs in the past (because I find it hard to enjoy lower quality recordings). This really pays off for me now that these former bootleg tracks will all (hopefully) become available in decent studio quality. I haven't played these songs to death yet in low quality, so this gives me the advantage of not really knowing songs like this hallway version and be really able to enjoy them as 'new' songs in decent quality. Yay!!! 10/10

4. Electric Intercourse: this version doesn't really sound finished to me. This is a recording where the Linndrum sounds pretty poor and that is very rare for Prince. The snare sound is totally shit! Besides that I enjoy having it, it is a pretty decent Prince song. I would enjoy it more if it had a better mix. The song itself reminds me a bit of International Lover, which is one of my least favorite songs from 1999. I have always liked his mid- or uptempo funk shit more than his ballads (there are some exceptions though). 7/10
5. Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden: Also sounds unfinished to me. Still nice to have. 6/10

6. Posessed: Pure voodoo magic, I love this one!! Much more interesting than the live renditions to me. I am loving the kickass Linndrum electrofunk pattern, with the cowbell pattern indeed reminding me of The Future. The song has a certain 'creepy' vibe which I absolutely adore. The beat sounds a bit like "The Glamourous Life" beat IMO. 9/10

7. Wonderful Ass: One of my favorite bootleg tracks, glad to have it in this quality now! 9/10

8. Velvet Kitty Cat: A bit of a throwaway unfinished sounding track, but nice to listen to anyway. 6.5/10

9. Katrina's Paper Dolls: Another throwaway track, but a bit less nice to listen to. 5/10

10. We Can Fuck: Wow, this is excellent!! So much more interesting than the overproduced version that was released with George Clinton on it. One of my favorite Prince songs ever by now already. 10/10

11. Father's Song: Nice addition to close out the disc, but it sounds like a demo to me. I don't think Prince would have ever let this be released in this way. 7/10

[Edited 6/27/17 14:28pm]

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Reply #264 posted 06/27/17 1:18pm

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imago said:

I'm so glad We Can Fuck was included. Al the holier than though fams the last 10 years mimicking Prince's conversion to abstaining from "bad" language fucking annoy me. It'll be delicious seeing them dismiss that sentiment now and trip over this nasty delicious stuff. WCF is demo bliss

A lot of door-knocking necessary to repent for that one. smile

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Reply #265 posted 06/27/17 2:05pm

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funkaholic1972 said:

1. The Dance Electric: I loved this song already a lot when Andre Cymone release it on his AC album. This one has Prince singing, which is very nice to have. It also seems to be an earlier version musically (although I didn't do a 1 on 1 comparison to be honest), the beat sounds somewhat different to me which is interesting to me. I don't care the song goes on for 11.30 minutes, this groove is so strong!! 10/10

2. Love and Sex: Great jam, although a bit busy. I like the Linndrum beat, the bass, the passionate vocals, the synths, the guitar with all the effects, classic Prince shizzle! What snare sound is this though? It doesn't sound like the stock Linnndrum snare to me. Did he double it with a live snare maybe? Or did he use another snare EPROM in the Linndrum? 8/10

3. Computer Blue (hallway version): Fantastic, absolutely amazing to hear in this quality! I am also very happy about the fact I haven't worn out too many bootlegs in the past (because I find it hard to enjoy lower quality recordings). This really pays off for me now that these former bootleg tracks will all (hopefully) become available in decent studio quality. I haven't played these songs to death yet in low quality, so this gives me the advantage of not really knowing songs like this hallway version and be really able to enjoy them as 'new' songs in decent quality. Yay!!! 10/10

4. Electric Intercourse: this version doesn't really sound finished to me. This is a recording where the Linndrum sounds pretty poor and that is very rare for Prince. The snare sound is totally shit! Besides that I enjoy having it, it is a pretty decent Prince song. I would enjoy it more if it had a better mix. The song itself reminds me a bit of International Lover, which is one of my least favorite songs from 1999. I have always liked his mid- or uptempo funk shit more than his ballads (there are some exceptions though). 7/10
5. Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden: Also sounds unfinished to me. Still nice to have. 6/10

6. Posessed: Pure voodoo magic, I love this one!! Much more interesting than the live renditions to me. I am loving the kickass Linndrum electrofunk pattern, with the cowbell pattern indeed reminding me of The Future. The song has a certain 'creepy' vibe which I absolutely adore. The beat sounds a bit like "The Glamourous Life" beat IMO. 9/10

7. Wonderful Ass: One of my favorite bootleg tracks, glad to have it in this quality now! 9/10

8. Velvet Kitty Cat: A bit of a throwaway unfinished sounding track, but nice to listen to anyway. 6.5/10

9. Katrina's Paper Dolls: Another throwaway track, but a bit less nice to listen to. 5/5

10. We Can Fuck: Wow, this is excellent!! So much more interesting than the overproduced version that was released with George Clinton on it. One of my favorite Prince songs ever by now already. 10/10

11. Father's Song: Nice addition to close out the disc, but it sounds like a demo to me. I don't think Prince would have ever let this be released in this way. 7/10

Sounds very interesting Funkaholic! cool biggrin

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Reply #266 posted 06/27/17 2:09pm

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fen said:

imago said:

I'm so glad We Can Fuck was included. Al the holier than though fams the last 10 years mimicking Prince's conversion to abstaining from "bad" language fucking annoy me. It'll be delicious seeing them dismiss that sentiment now and trip over this nasty delicious stuff. WCF is demo bliss

A lot of door-knocking necessary to repent for that one. smile

For Who, For people listening to it? biggrin

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Reply #267 posted 06/27/17 2:16pm

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imago said:

I'm so glad We Can Fuck was included. Al the holier than though fams the last 10 years mimicking Prince's conversion to abstaining from "bad" language fucking annoy me. It'll be delicious seeing them dismiss that sentiment now and trip over this nasty delicious stuff. WCF is demo bliss


I don't object to the swearing but this would have been no less epic if it was funk instead of fuck.

RIP sad
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Reply #268 posted 06/27/17 2:27pm

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rdhull said:

Doesn't anyone remember the interview where he speaks of giving Dance Electric to Andre? He mocks talking to Andre saying "You want this..its a iht, you know its a hit" in mock holier than thou speak. I think it may have been that France interview with all the extras surrounding him. Prince knew the song was a stone cold jam. And was wiling to give it up for his friend.

It's 7:59 into the 1985 Mtv interview, while on break from filming under the cherry moon

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Reply #269 posted 06/27/17 2:30pm

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Astasheiks said:

funkaholic1972 said:

1. The Dance Electric: I loved this song already a lot when Andre Cymone release it on his AC album. This one has Prince singing, which is very nice to have. It also seems to be an earlier version musically (although I didn't do a 1 on 1 comparison to be honest), the beat sounds somewhat different to me which is interesting to me. I don't care the song goes on for 11.30 minutes, this groove is so strong!! 10/10

2. Love and Sex: Great jam, although a bit busy. I like the Linndrum beat, the bass, the passionate vocals, the synths, the guitar with all the effects, classic Prince shizzle! What snare sound is this though? It doesn't sound like the stock Linnndrum snare to me. Did he double it with a live snare maybe? Or did he use another snare EPROM in the Linndrum? 8/10

3. Computer Blue (hallway version): Fantastic, absolutely amazing to hear in this quality! I am also very happy about the fact I haven't worn out too many bootlegs in the past (because I find it hard to enjoy lower quality recordings). This really pays off for me now that these former bootleg tracks will all (hopefully) become available in decent studio quality. I haven't played these songs to death yet in low quality, so this gives me the advantage of not really knowing songs like this hallway version and be really able to enjoy them as 'new' songs in decent quality. Yay!!! 10/10

4. Electric Intercourse: this version doesn't really sound finished to me. This is a recording where the Linndrum sounds pretty poor and that is very rare for Prince. The snare sound is totally shit! Besides that I enjoy having it, it is a pretty decent Prince song. I would enjoy it more if it had a better mix. The song itself reminds me a bit of International Lover, which is one of my least favorite songs from 1999. I have always liked his mid- or uptempo funk shit more than his ballads (there are some exceptions though). 7/10
5. Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden: Also sounds unfinished to me. Still nice to have. 6/10

6. Posessed: Pure voodoo magic, I love this one!! Much more interesting than the live renditions to me. I am loving the kickass Linndrum electrofunk pattern, with the cowbell pattern indeed reminding me of The Future. The song has a certain 'creepy' vibe which I absolutely adore. The beat sounds a bit like "The Glamourous Life" beat IMO. 9/10

7. Wonderful Ass: One of my favorite bootleg tracks, glad to have it in this quality now! 9/10

8. Velvet Kitty Cat: A bit of a throwaway unfinished sounding track, but nice to listen to anyway. 6.5/10

9. Katrina's Paper Dolls: Another throwaway track, but a bit less nice to listen to. 5/5

10. We Can Fuck: Wow, this is excellent!! So much more interesting than the overproduced version that was released with George Clinton on it. One of my favorite Prince songs ever by now already. 10/10

11. Father's Song: Nice addition to close out the disc, but it sounds like a demo to me. I don't think Prince would have ever let this be released in this way. 7/10

Sounds very interesting Funkaholic! cool biggrin

It sure is an interesting compilation! I for one am glad to have it, some top tunes in there for sure.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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