I think Susan Rogers is just confusing people, she didn't mean filler as in poor quality, which is what everyone bar her means when they say filler!
well he did play Starfish & Coffee on and off quite a bit but I know what you mean. I'd speculate PITS is possibly a bit too complicated to be able to play any way except the way it is on record so he didn't feel the need to revisit but i'm just guessing here. If he really wanted to he'd find a way.
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I think I did Susan Rogers a disservice by mis quoting her about Play In The Sunshine. It was mentioned in relation to what songs are the defining tracks for an album. And you need to have a flow in an album, so you need to have songs that take you from one place to another. Play In The Sunshine was written as a song to take you from place A to place B. . Doesn't mean it is exactly filler, but does mean that it was written to serve a particular function, as opposed to his sunday songs (more spiritual) or deeply meaningful. . As to wether or not you (dis)like PITS... I've never much cared for the song. It's the weakest track on side 1 by far, for me. Much like U Got The Look on side 3. To me, that song is filler, yet it was released as a single, so I don't think we'll be able to determine what is filler. . It would be interesting to talk to people that helped create the albums/tracking to find out what function the different songs had and how they were talked about. I am certain Prince cared more for some songs than others, but what he played or put on records was as much about the fans, the record execs and his mood of the day as the reason why he recorded particular songs, imo. Paisley Park is in your heart - Love Is Here! | |
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rdhull said: Come and Chaos n Disorder seem like filler songs as albums mostly.
During the classic era though:
Glam Slam The Max Arrogance It Hot Thing Tick Tick Bang Trust Lemon Crush I have to agree with the first two: the albums Come and Chaos & Disorder as a whole. The rest of this list are no fillers to me, though. The album The Vault...Old Friends 4 Sale is on the same level as the first two mentioned albums. 'Liberate My Mind' | |
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The entire Truth album was a filler in the CB box. .
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. I've NEVER believed any artist would write a song to be a filler. . It's fair to say Prince had a bit of talent, so I really don't believe he was sat in his studio thinking, "this next song is going to be a killer hit" and then thinking, "I'm going to write this next song as a filler". . I think people are to obsessed when critiquing albums and add beliefs that don't exists. . Also not all albums are made to flow. For example, Slaughterhouse and Chocolate Invasion are mere compilations. . So in answer to the thread's question.... NO! .
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Ridiculous statement | |
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I call you bluff on the basis of the following songs alone (and there are more that are worth the mention):
Love 2 The 9's The Morning Papers Damn U And God Created Woman
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On The Couch & Satisfied.
The pair of them are just paint-by-numbers throwback soul ballads. I don't hear any particular inspiration in either of them. | |
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NorthC said: If you start an album with "Come" and end with "Orgasm", I think that makes perfect sense. So... Once again... No filler... [Edited 5/4/17 14:23pm] ![]() ![]() | |
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rdhull said: Come and Chaos n Disorder seem like filler songs as albums mostly.
During the classic era though:
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rdhull said: Come and Chaos n Disorder seem like filler songs as albums mostly.
During the classic era though:
Glam Slam The Max Arrogance It Hot Thing Tick Tick Bang Trust Lemon Crush Seriously? ![]() | |
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I love how subjective this conversation is: for me, Sleep Around is one of the standout tracks off Emancipation (Style on the other hand, couldn't sing that for you right now). | |
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This thread might be more clear cut, but still as subjective, if it was titled, "What Prince songs did not live up to the other material on their respective albums?" And I don't hear much in the classic period. I think "Do It All Night" and, to a lesser extent, "Got a Broken Heart Again," don't live up to the rest of Dirty Mind, thematically or musically (I thought "Soft and Wet" sounded ahead of the disco era and "Do It All Night" sounds like a holdover). "Tamborine" gets mad hate but I think it's novel enough and I don't think Around the World in a Day is his strongest from the period. I skip "Christopher Tracy's Parade" but admit it has merits. For me, "Arms of Orion" is the real what the fuck? moment. It works as what it is, but blegh... | |
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Great answers from everyone! I've really enjoyed reading them. | |
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When it comes to Prince fans, it´s funny because a song/album that is a masterpiece to some are almost trash to others. Dont know if it happens to other artists´ fans.
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The Max is one Prince has been regularly performing in his later years as well as 7. As well, its so cool to hear The Max incorporating Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic. Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Other way around. Rave came first. | |
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I object to blanket statements like these. This guy obviously knows nothing about either album. Funky alien | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: i think every album post SOTT had filler... (well maybe not the black album) 100% agree BOB4theFUNK | |
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Funkyalien said:
I object to blanket statements like these. This guy obviously knows nothing about either album. This guy knows that these albums were only made as contractual obligation to WB, so yes, they could be called "filler". | |
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Tambourine was my first thought. Hot Thing and even Glam Slam are no filler imo
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BTW, I love the Symbol album. Its a great collection of SONGS (with some fillers, yes, and too much segues) with a great band. One of the first albums I would play for a non fan. [Edited 5/8/17 10:55am] Peace
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80-88 flawless. Plenty of filler on GB all the none Prince songs and the title song GB. | |
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Uh, Come was a fully realized project that Prince worked on for about 2 years. The flipside of the Gold Experience, essentially, with Chaos and Disorder housing many of the outtakes from those sessions (and some tracks never considered for either project). Those are not songs that Prince went into the studio to record just to take up space. They were songs he believed in and rotated on these tracklists multiple times ("Chaos and Disorder" was originally a Gold Experience song, etc). So while people might not feel the material is up to snuff, that is irrelevant. Prince believed in the material enough to want it out there. | |
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