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Reply #420 posted 04/28/17 7:53am

fen

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TheEnglishGent said:

djThunderfunk said:


Don't remember if it was from a press release, rumour, or if somebody here just pulled it out of their ass... but, pretty sure that's how it was being described at one point.

That said, so many different things have been said and so much has been wrong, so, whatevs... wink

I'm sure it was a Warner press release which stated there would be two albums of unreleased music.


Here's the Rolling Stone article about it : http://www.rollingstone.c...ic-w466431

[Edited 4/28/17 7:44am]

Well, that was the only “source” that I ever saw. A case of lazy, inaccurate reporting and Chinese Whispers?

http://www.rollingstone.c...ic-w466431

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Reply #421 posted 04/28/17 8:07am

Romeoblu

Really pleased to finally be able to pre order this set.

I just hope Sifi is wrong and Our Destiny does have a Prince vocal.

Electric Intercourse is great, I'm kind of pleased how it differs from the live version, not sure which I prefer but it's great to have both.

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Reply #422 posted 04/28/17 8:10am

Romeoblu

Really pleased to finally be able to pre order this set.

I just hope Sifi is wrong and Our Destiny does have a Prince vocal.

Electric Intercourse is great, I'm kind of pleased how it differs from the live version, not sure which I prefer but it's great to have both.

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Reply #423 posted 04/28/17 8:11am

IstenSzek

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Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #424 posted 04/28/17 8:13am

Romeoblu

BoraBora said:

JudasSmile said:

From the press release:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.

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I'm looking forward to hearing all of CD 3.



Well, they listed 5 tracks and there is also as 6th "Love & Sex" that AFAIK isn't circulating in any version.

So "Velvet Kitty Cat" is exactly the same recently leaked?!?!?


It says Katrinas Paper Dolls has only previously circulated as a demo. I've never heard that before.

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Reply #425 posted 04/28/17 8:22am

fen

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Romeoblu said:

BoraBora said:



Well, they listed 5 tracks and there is also as 6th "Love & Sex" that AFAIK isn't circulating in any version.

So "Velvet Kitty Cat" is exactly the same recently leaked?!?!?


It says Katrinas Paper Dolls has only previously circulated as a demo. I've never heard that before.

No, neither have I (apart from an inaccurately labelled, unrelated track). Some here appear to have heard it though, so I guess they're referring to a demo circulating among elite collectors. Or I've missed something.

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Reply #426 posted 04/28/17 8:23am

7salles

I liked very much this version of EI. But somehow it sounds like he recorded an harmony line instead of the main melody line.

Like this: he did harmony over the original melody and then took out the main melody and we are hearing him singing the second voice. lol

Maybe i am tripping.

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Reply #427 posted 04/28/17 8:36am

SuperFurryAnim
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Mother fucking Warner Bros

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #428 posted 04/28/17 8:54am

jjam

Atty said:

So we've gone from two albums of unreleased material and two live concert DVDs, to one album and one concert?

This is fucking ridiculous.

It is.

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Reply #429 posted 04/28/17 8:55am

Romeoblu

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.




I do wonder if this release is where those leaks came from. I really like the recent leaked version of roadhouse but was kind of hoping this version would be different and more in line with the much harder funky live version. Also I need Prince to be on lead vocals for our destiny.
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Reply #430 posted 04/28/17 8:56am

E319

Can SiFi provide any inside info on what happened to the 2nd live concert dvd? Was that ever really planned or was that just a rumor? And if it was planned, what happened to it?

[Edited 4/28/17 8:57am]

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Reply #431 posted 04/28/17 8:56am

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So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

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Reply #432 posted 04/28/17 9:01am

tmcjb

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

Physical copies are on Amazon now, but you can't pre-order it yet. Probably by the end of the day.

Personally I'm surprised that there isn't any package with the movie in it.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:01am]

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
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Reply #433 posted 04/28/17 9:03am

brassneck

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tmcjb said:

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

Physical copies are on Amazon now, but you can't pre-order it yet. Probably by the end of the day.

Personally I'm surprised that there isn't any package with the movie in it.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:01am]

The "official" Prince store is up just now with all physical editions listed: http://store.officialprin...sic-1.html

*** Site also includes a separate Purple Rain picture disc pre-order!

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

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Reply #434 posted 04/28/17 9:07am

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IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


One of the articles in the news today said he worked on this project so if that is true I doubt he stubbled across anything unless that is the story he told WB.

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Reply #435 posted 04/28/17 9:07am

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Atty said:

So we've gone from two albums of unreleased material and two live concert DVDs, to one album and one concert?

This is fucking ridiculous.

confused

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #436 posted 04/28/17 9:11am

IstenSzek

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Romeoblu said:

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


I do wonder if this release is where those leaks came from. I really like the recent leaked version of roadhouse but was kind of hoping this version would be different and more in line with the much harder funky live version. Also I need Prince to be on lead vocals for our destiny.


no matter where the leaks came from, i think it's pretty shitty when people, either traders
with inside info on an upcoming release or even people working on the release at warners
or whomever, leak tracks like these when they know that they will be on the next release.

it's one thing (a glorious, wonderful thing) to get something like "come elektra tuesday" or
"adonis and bathsheba" when a possible release is nowhere in sight on the horizon. but for
someone to leak a track from this project, after holding on to it for a decade or more while
dropping hints here and there, is kind of spoiling the fun for everyone who is waiting for the
official release.

these people have to know we have no fucking self control lol

i've been half expecting someone to leak Katrina any day now. i mean, what's the point at
this stage? just wait until the whole package is out and then leak some of the alternate
versions. but hey, that would be too logical. nothing in prince land is logical, on either side
of the fence, either official or bootleg.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #437 posted 04/28/17 9:15am

IstenSzek

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laurarichardson said:

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


One of the articles in the news today said he worked on this project so if that is true I doubt he stubbled across anything unless that is the story he told WB.



first they said bernie grundman did the remaster, now it's just 'paisley park remaster' done by
prince himself? why is everything about this release so vague?

unless they explain a lot of this shit in the linernotes to the physical release i'll just go on my
gut feeling and see this as a release that they put together with bits and bobs they had in their
own vault since forever. (i.e. disc 2)

too many things don't add up for it to be put together by prince. even if you only look at the
explicit 'new' songs included. no way.

that's not a problem for me either, but just be honest about what it is and who did what.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #438 posted 04/28/17 9:15am

ThirdStrike

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brassneck said:

tmcjb said:

Physical copies are on Amazon now, but you can't pre-order it yet. Probably by the end of the day.

Personally I'm surprised that there isn't any package with the movie in it.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:01am]

The "official" Prince store is up just now with all physical editions listed: http://store.officialprin...sic-1.html

*** Site also includes a separate Purple Rain picture disc pre-order!

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

Cool! Thanks!! It's actually a nice little store. It is official, right? And the expanded set at $33? Very reasonable for sure!

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Reply #439 posted 04/28/17 9:16am

brassneck

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ThirdStrike said:

brassneck said:

The "official" Prince store is up just now with all physical editions listed: http://store.officialprin...sic-1.html

*** Site also includes a separate Purple Rain picture disc pre-order!

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

Cool! Thanks!! It's actually a nice little store. It is official, right? And the expanded set at $33? Very reasonable for sure!

Yep, official. Warner Music charged my card.

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Reply #440 posted 04/28/17 9:16am

DarkKnight1

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Amazing. Goosebumps.

This WB release is a gift and homage to Prince fans and everyone should stfu. So much more to discover in the vault and we always have something to look forward to.

This track is on the Hot Tracks of ITunes. It takes some serious spins to be there. Right next to the great Frank Ocean.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:19am]

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Reply #441 posted 04/28/17 9:18am

OnlyNDaUsa

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amazon had the 2CD set on the US site but no price yet

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Reply #442 posted 04/28/17 9:18am

donnyenglish

Deliverance and Montreux 2013 DVD remain the best releases since his passing by a long shot. The dude left a vault of thousands of treasures and the best they can do in over a year is one dvd of vault material? The Syracuse dvd and the singles/12 inch cd are truly disappointments. In the words of Billy Sparks "what a f&cking waste."

They delayed the release to give us this crap? I thought Susan Rodgers said they were taking their time to make it extra special. If this is the best they can do then folks need to just put the good stuff out there for free like they did with Montreux and Deiverance. Someone release Second Coming please. These companies, trustees and estate cant get their acts together.

Electric Intercouse sounds like an early version. It is interesting to hear because it shows how the song evolved. But, it almost ruins the live version for me. This studio version makes it an even bigger travesty that the August 1983 live DVD is not part of the box set. Non-Diehard fans won't know the brilliance of that song.

The absense of songs like G-Spot, Wednesday, etc. is also disappointing. Maybe they will release the August 1983 DVD, alternative cuts of the movie, outtakes from the movie, etc. with the re-release of the movie DVD. WB is good for breadcrumbing Prince fans. I feel like they lost a window of opportunity here.

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Reply #443 posted 04/28/17 9:24am

ThirdStrike

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brassneck said:

ThirdStrike said:

Cool! Thanks!! It's actually a nice little store. It is official, right? And the expanded set at $33? Very reasonable for sure!

Yep, official. Warner Music charged my card.

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

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Reply #444 posted 04/28/17 9:24am

donnyenglish

Think about this. So many Purple Rain Era live recordings and the one chance they get to release a DVD it is a recording that was already released over 30 years ago. Granted, it will be in better quality, but this is the best they can do as the first live DVD release over a year after his death? "Warner Brothers used to be a friend of mine and now they are just a monumental waste of time . . ."

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Reply #445 posted 04/28/17 9:25am

brassneck

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ThirdStrike said:

brassneck said:

Yep, official. Warner Music charged my card.

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

It's "pending." We'll see. I know Amazon doesn't charge until items ship, but not all sites follow that standard.

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Reply #446 posted 04/28/17 9:26am

OnlyNDaUsa

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brassneck said:

ThirdStrike said:

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

It's "pending." We'll see. I know Amazon doesn't charge until items ship, but not all sites follow that standard.

i will wait for amazon they have a better track record but at that price I will get it at wal mart before it is delivered anyway

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Reply #447 posted 04/28/17 9:26am

MIRvmn

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Romeoblu said:

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.




I do wonder if this release is where those leaks came from. I really like the recent leaked version of roadhouse but was kind of hoping this version would be different and more in line with the much harder funky live version. Also I need Prince to be on lead vocals for our destiny.

Yes I was also hoping for a different version of Roadhouse Garden since I have the leaked one. This is turning out to be a major disappointment, to much stuff I already have/heard on PR Deluxe
We are living in Orwell's 1984
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Reply #448 posted 04/28/17 9:26am

laytonian

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...



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THIS.
Amazon only has MP3s available for pre-order and therefore no version with the concert DVD.
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I want a physical copy that I can put in my devices by myself. I do not want to depend on clouds and electronics.
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #449 posted 04/28/17 9:27am

MiceElfAgin

thebiscuit said:

'The two-CD Purple Rain Deluxe set includes the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes from the soundtrack, presenting an unheard vision of the album overseen by Prince himself.' This is interesting. Anyone else think we may get a vastly different version of the album? Jehovah's Witness Prince might have made some big changes to Darling Nikki for example.

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It's labelled as "2015 PP Remaster", not "Remix" or "New Version" – so unless they are totally bonkers and don't know what they're talking about, this was remastered from the stereo master, not remixed from the multitracks, therefore it cannot contain any new recordings nor edits performed only on the vocal track.

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