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Darling Nickie What the song might really be about.

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie about a loose women or was the song really about the music industry/devil?

A couple of things to keep in mind.

Nikki lives in a castle= Do most loose women/hookers live in lavish homes? Could this be the devil's den or a corporate building?

Sign on the dotted line.-- Do most guys have to sign a contract when they are with a women? You do have to sign a contract with a record lable or a contract with the devil.

This song would have been a good way of Prince mixing the music industry/loose women/ deal with the devil all togther in one song as the road to hell.

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Discuss if you like I have always been interested in Prince as a song writer and what he may have really meant as to what we actually think from the first listen. Remember "Let's Go Crazy" is about trying to escape from the devil.

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Reply #1 posted 02/26/17 11:38am

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Reply #2 posted 02/26/17 11:39am

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Makes sense
"love's the only drug we do in here"-Prince
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Reply #3 posted 02/26/17 11:45am

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Iamtheorg said:

Do have a single brain cell in your head?

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Poorlovelycomputer said:

Makes sense

The author of the story put it in the story and I thought it was interesting.

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Reply #5 posted 02/26/17 11:47am

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laurarichardson said:

Iamtheorg said:

Do have a single brain cell in your head?

You of all people shouldnt be asking that q with that cocamamie theory of Darling Nik"ie" meaning lol.

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Reply #6 posted 02/26/17 11:55am

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Iamtheorg said:

laurarichardson said:

Do have a single brain cell in your head?

You of all people shouldnt be asking that q with that cocamamie theory of Darling Nik"ie" meaning lol.

But it is not my theory and I explained that. If you cannot add anything move the fuck on.

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Reply #7 posted 02/26/17 11:57am

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laurarichardson said:

Iamtheorg said:

You of all people shouldnt be asking that q with that cocamamie theory of Darling Nik"ie" meaning lol.

But it is not my theory and I explained that. If you cannot add anything move the fuck on.

....K..moving on even though I dont believe its a metaphor for the biz especially since he screams "come back Nikki, come back!"

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Reply #8 posted 02/26/17 12:48pm

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laurarichardson said:

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie [snip]


What is a darling nickie?

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
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Reply #9 posted 02/26/17 1:34pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie [snip]


What is a darling nickie?

Just think about it

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Reply #10 posted 02/26/17 2:09pm

RJOrion

i always thought it was about the devil/evil...selling his soul maybe...
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Reply #11 posted 02/26/17 2:24pm

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This theory of "Darling Nikki" actually does make a bit more sense when you apply it to the context of where it falls within the story/plot of Purple Rain: Prince is angry with Appolonia for joining Morris' group, a venture that he sees as a pure money-grab, selling out just to "make it" ("Is that what turns you on," Prince asks her derisively when they first meet, "makin' it?"). Of course, to "make it" quick you need something like a record company, or in the case of the Purple Rain narrative, the First-Avenue-Industrial Complex of Billy pressuring Morris and company to give him something that will sell.

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Reply #12 posted 02/26/17 2:33pm

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he also tells Appolonia that she "wouldnt pass the initiation"... initiation to what?....gives even more reason for some people to think there is some secret society to be initiated into...
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RJOrion said:

he also tells Appolonia that she "wouldnt pass the initiation"... initiation to what?....gives even more reason for some people to think there is some secret society to be initiated into...

Initiated into the music industry/hell? I have always wondered at one point did Prince really sour on the business of music? At one point did he realize he had put all his eggs in one basket?

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Reply #14 posted 02/26/17 3:38pm

AnnaSantana

laurarichardson said:

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie about a loose women or was the song really about the music industry/devil?

A couple of things to keep in mind.

Nikki lives in a castle= Do most loose women/hookers live in lavish homes? Could this be the devil's den or a corporate building?

Sign on the dotted line.-- Do most guys have to sign a contract when they are with a women? You do have to sign a contract with a record lable or a contract with the devil.

This song would have been a good way of Prince mixing the music industry/loose women/ deal with the devil all togther in one song as the road to hell.

-----

Discuss if you like I have always been interested in Prince as a song writer and what he may have really meant as to what we actually think from the first listen. Remember "Let's Go Crazy" is about trying to escape from the devil.

what prince fanfiction are you reading?

finger DONALD TRUMP
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Reply #15 posted 02/26/17 3:46pm

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AnnaSantana said:

laurarichardson said:

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie about a loose women or was the song really about the music industry/devil?

A couple of things to keep in mind.

Nikki lives in a castle= Do most loose women/hookers live in lavish homes? Could this be the devil's den or a corporate building?

Sign on the dotted line.-- Do most guys have to sign a contract when they are with a women? You do have to sign a contract with a record lable or a contract with the devil.

This song would have been a good way of Prince mixing the music industry/loose women/ deal with the devil all togther in one song as the road to hell.

-----

Discuss if you like I have always been interested in Prince as a song writer and what he may have really meant as to what we actually think from the first listen. Remember "Let's Go Crazy" is about trying to escape from the devil.

what prince fanfiction are you reading?

https://www.wattpad.com/340257705-my-sister%27s-boyfriend-the-rest-of-our-lives

My Sister's Boyfriend.

[Edited 2/26/17 16:23pm]

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Reply #16 posted 02/26/17 3:48pm

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Could Nikki also be a nickname for a 'nickle' as in a US coin and therefore also represent 'money'?

We know Prince loved playing with words and was often cryptic too...

Open your heart open your mind
A train is leaving all day
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Reply #17 posted 02/26/17 3:57pm

TrivialPursuit

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laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:


What is a darling nickie?

Just think about it


Nah, I'm good. I have books to read.

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
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Reply #18 posted 02/26/17 4:00pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

Just think about it


Nah, I'm good. I have books to read.

then beat it and go read them.

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Reply #19 posted 02/26/17 4:15pm

TrivialPursuit

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laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Nah, I'm good. I have books to read.

then beat it and go read them.


LOL You try, I'll give ya that.



It's Sunday, so I'm not going to Remy Ma out on ya.

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http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
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Reply #20 posted 02/26/17 4:22pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

then beat it and go read them.


LOL You try, I'll give ya that.



It's Sunday, so I'm not going to Remy Ma out on ya.

Grown people are talking go on out of the room.

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Reply #21 posted 02/26/17 4:24pm

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CherryMoon57 said:

Could Nikki also be a nickname for a 'nickle' as in a US coin and therefore also represent 'money'?

We know Prince loved playing with words and was often cryptic too...

Maybe money = business.

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Reply #22 posted 02/26/17 4:25pm

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Old Nick is also an English name for the devil. I believe the song is definitely a representation of sin and the devil.
There's always a rainbow 🌈 , at the end of every rain ☔️
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Reply #23 posted 02/26/17 4:28pm

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laurarichardson said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Could Nikki also be a nickname for a 'nickle' as in a US coin and therefore also represent 'money'?

We know Prince loved playing with words and was often cryptic too...

Maybe money = business.

Yep, same thing.

Open your heart open your mind
A train is leaving all day
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Reply #24 posted 02/26/17 5:42pm

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Interesting theory.

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Reply #25 posted 02/26/17 7:50pm

robertgeorge

laurarichardson said:

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie about a loose women or was the song really about the music industry/devil?

A couple of things to keep in mind.

Nikki lives in a castle= Do most loose women/hookers live in lavish homes? Could this be the devil's den or a corporate building?

Sign on the dotted line.-- Do most guys have to sign a contract when they are with a women? You do have to sign a contract with a record lable or a contract with the devil.

This song would have been a good way of Prince mixing the music industry/loose women/ deal with the devil all togther in one song as the road to hell.

-----

Discuss if you like I have always been interested in Prince as a song writer and what he may have really meant as to what we actually think from the first listen. Remember "Let's Go Crazy" is about trying to escape from the devil.



First up all of the asshats on this thread. Apparently it takes longer to ignore a thread than to make a snarky comment about how this thread sucks. It is these people and not "dubious" threads that will kill the org deader than the Purple one.

I think this theory has legs. It is the sin of the industry that creates the "temptation" that will destroy the Prince. I feel that Nikki is as much of a victim as Prince.

Prince is being tempted and destroyed by the sin of lustful, loveless sex that has him enthralled.

Nikki is destroying herself by being a groupie. Ultimaltely she will be destroyed by her greed and lust for fame and money. The film paralells these in how Prince sees Apollonia in her seeking Morris Day's help and how Francis L, no doubt distrusts his wife with any man.

It is powerful symbolically to see Nikki as a demon (a succubus) to take Prince's soul and talent. I however prefer to see it as a sin borne inside of humans. A honey trap set once the original sin was committed. The industry will consume people, and lust, greed and distrust of each other will wither the souls of those tainted by this pain. This is what it sounds like when doves cry means inherently loving people hurting those they love. The worst pain.

Please not this is not written from an evangelical or spirtual bent personally. I am just looking at how the images are presented, and creating an interpretation, more from a literature perspective.

It interests me when Prince spoke about trolley cars that juggle 17 as in tamborine or the lyrics of sexuality We live in a world overrun by tourists
Tourists - 89 flowers on their back...inventors of the Accu-jack
They look at life through a pocket camera... What? No flash again?
They're all a bunch of double drags who teach their kids that Love is bad
Half of the staff of their brain is on vacation
Mama, are u listening?

Prince liked people that leapt for meaning (or even looked for the ladder) even if we occassionally fell on our butts.

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Reply #26 posted 02/26/17 7:52pm

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robertgeorge said:

laurarichardson said:

I was reading fan fiction a few weeks ago and one of the authors has an interesting point in the story.

Was Darling Nickie about a loose women or was the song really about the music industry/devil?

A couple of things to keep in mind.

Nikki lives in a castle= Do most loose women/hookers live in lavish homes? Could this be the devil's den or a corporate building?

Sign on the dotted line.-- Do most guys have to sign a contract when they are with a women? You do have to sign a contract with a record lable or a contract with the devil.

This song would have been a good way of Prince mixing the music industry/loose women/ deal with the devil all togther in one song as the road to hell.

-----

Discuss if you like I have always been interested in Prince as a song writer and what he may have really meant as to what we actually think from the first listen. Remember "Let's Go Crazy" is about trying to escape from the devil.



First up all of the asshats on this thread. Apparently it takes longer to ignore a thread than to make a snarky comment about how this thread sucks. It is these people and not "dubious" threads that will kill the org deader than the Purple one.

I think this theory has legs. It is the sin of the industry that creates the "temptation" that will destroy the Prince. I feel that Nikki is as much of a victim as Prince.

Prince is being tempted and destroyed by the sin of lustful, loveless sex that has him enthralled.

Nikki is destroying herself by being a groupie. Ultimaltely she will be destroyed by her greed and lust for fame and money. The film paralells these in how Prince sees Apollonia in her seeking Morris Day's help and how Francis L, no doubt distrusts his wife with any man.

It is powerful symbolically to see Nikki as a demon (a succubus) to take Prince's soul and talent. I however prefer to see it as a sin borne inside of humans. A honey trap set once the original sin was committed. The industry will consume people, and lust, greed and distrust of each other will wither the souls of those tainted by this pain. This is what it sounds like when doves cry means inherently loving people hurting those they love. The worst pain.

Please not this is not written from an evangelical or spirtual bent personally. I am just looking at how the images are presented, and creating an interpretation, more from a literature perspective.

It interests me when Prince spoke about trolley cars that juggle 17 as in tamborine or the lyrics of sexuality We live in a world overrun by tourists
Tourists - 89 flowers on their back...inventors of the Accu-jack
They look at life through a pocket camera... What? No flash again?
They're all a bunch of double drags who teach their kids that Love is bad
Half of the staff of their brain is on vacation
Mama, are u listening?

Prince liked people that leapt for meaning (or even looked for the ladder) even if we occassionally fell on our butts.

falloff

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Reply #27 posted 02/26/17 8:21pm

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LR, why are you misspelling the song title? What kind of example is that for all the newbies to come here and slaughter Prince songs.
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Reply #28 posted 02/26/17 8:27pm

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I think Positvity also has a similar message.
i think i want ya
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Reply #29 posted 02/26/17 9:35pm

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Iamtheorg said:

robertgeorge said:



First up all of the asshats on this thread. Apparently it takes longer to ignore a thread than to make a snarky comment about how this thread sucks. It is these people and not "dubious" threads that will kill the org deader than the Purple one.

I think this theory has legs. It is the sin of the industry that creates the "temptation" that will destroy the Prince. I feel that Nikki is as much of a victim as Prince.

Prince is being tempted and destroyed by the sin of lustful, loveless sex that has him enthralled.

Nikki is destroying herself by being a groupie. Ultimaltely she will be destroyed by her greed and lust for fame and money. The film paralells these in how Prince sees Apollonia in her seeking Morris Day's help and how Francis L, no doubt distrusts his wife with any man.

It is powerful symbolically to see Nikki as a demon (a succubus) to take Prince's soul and talent. I however prefer to see it as a sin borne inside of humans. A honey trap set once the original sin was committed. The industry will consume people, and lust, greed and distrust of each other will wither the souls of those tainted by this pain. This is what it sounds like when doves cry means inherently loving people hurting those they love. The worst pain.

Please not this is not written from an evangelical or spirtual bent personally. I am just looking at how the images are presented, and creating an interpretation, more from a literature perspective.

It interests me when Prince spoke about trolley cars that juggle 17 as in tamborine or the lyrics of sexuality We live in a world overrun by tourists
Tourists - 89 flowers on their back...inventors of the Accu-jack
They look at life through a pocket camera... What? No flash again?
They're all a bunch of double drags who teach their kids that Love is bad
Half of the staff of their brain is on vacation
Mama, are u listening?

Prince liked people that leapt for meaning (or even looked for the ladder) even if we occassionally fell on our butts.

falloff

So you have no interest in the thread but you want to keep with the condescention. But I suppose you are the org, or at least your name denotes the status without any authority or reason for the sobriquet. If you like I could put some spelling errors or use bad grammar, just so you can correct me. I just offered an interpretation, a possibility. It was not meant to be a claim of what Prince thought, how could it be? Sorry to have offended your cynical and linear basic views.

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