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MMJas

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Paisley Park Confessions

Just came across this site. What's with that?? Anyone know? Is it really written by a former employee? eek

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Reply #1 posted 02/25/17 4:29pm

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eek WOW

Cat Glover - Mainly to mess with Sheila. Accused him of fathering her son who looks just like Prince ('88)

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Reply #2 posted 02/25/17 5:39pm

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MMJas said:

Just came across this site. What's with that?? Anyone know? Is it really written by a former employee? eek


Some of these stories turned up on Lipstick Alley a few years ago. We now know some of these are true.
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Reply #3 posted 02/25/17 5:54pm

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I love reading all that salacious stuff, it makes me happy!
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Reply #4 posted 02/25/17 6:49pm

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do people exagerrate Prince's sexual conquests?

I just read that Paisley Park confessions page. I do think a lot of it is probably true but there was a post that listed everyone the source claims could be conferred that he had sexual relations with. The list seemed a bit OTT to me. I mean it had "Kristen Scott Thomas" on it as well as "sheena Easton""Tamar Davis" "Rosario Dawson"-- people I doubt he did more than flirt with.

After all, how privy could employees be to his private sexual liasons? Was it possible his employees were just as much into rumor mongering/speculation as the tabloids were? Plus, isn't it kind of insulting to all the women to assume that every woman he mentored, he was fucking.

The shit about Electra must have some truth in it because even P referenced being sent used condoms in one of his songs but the extent of both of their philanderings might be exagerrated.

I mean Susan Rogers talks about prince working 20 hours a day on recording. Really, when did he have the time or energy to do that much playing?

Plus, the same site called Elisa Fiorello a talentless latino chick. yeah, she was talented and Italian. But close enough I guess.

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Reply #5 posted 02/25/17 7:04pm

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purplerabbithole said:

do people exagerrate Prince's sexual conquests?

I just read that Paisley Park confessions page. I do think a lot of it is probably true but there was a post that listed everyone the source claims could be conferred that he had sexual relations with. The list seemed a bit OTT to me. I mean it had "Kristen Scott Thomas" on it as well as "sheena Easton""Tamar Davis" "Rosario Dawson"-- people I doubt he did more than flirt with.

After all, how privy could employees be to his private sexual liasons? Was it possible his employees were just as much into rumor mongering/speculation as the tabloids were? Plus, isn't it kind of insulting to all the women to assume that every woman he mentored, he was fucking.

The shit about Electra must have some truth in it because even P referenced being sent used condoms in one of his songs but the extent of both of their philanderings might be exagerrated.

I mean Susan Rogers talks about prince working 20 hours a day on recording. Really, when did he have the time or energy to do that much playing?

Plus, the same site called Elisa Fiorello a talentless latino chick. yeah, she was talented and Italian. But close enough I guess.

I saw your original post. I wish it hadn't got locked.

But, yeah. I'm really confused and conflicted on the subject. On one hand, I don't think it's possible that he could work as much he was said to and still sleep with everybody. I don't think he slept with all of the people it's said he did. But, at the same time, I think he slept with a lot of them and just can't come to a conclusion on which ones he didn't sleep with. So, the other half of me believes in the mythology of Prince and thinks he slept with every named and unnamed pretty woman he came across. Maybe, he really was working all those hours and hours if you know what I mean. Many of the women from about 2005 on, I don't think he slept with. But, prior to that I think it's fair game. They say, in the works of his persona in the early days, that he wanted to become sex - maybe he did that and either personally committed to it or we just bought into too deeply.

I don't know. He's such an enigma.

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Reply #6 posted 02/25/17 7:10pm

luvgirl

Not buying some of them. The one about Susan's mother not liking Prince because he was black doesn't make sense because Susan is not only Indian but also BLACK! Half Indian half Black...
[Edited 2/25/17 19:26pm]
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Reply #7 posted 02/25/17 7:15pm

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I think some of it might be true but it reads more like Fan Fiction to me.

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Reply #8 posted 02/25/17 7:35pm

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luvgirl said:

Not buying some of them. The one about Susan's mother not liking Prince because he was black doesn't make sense because Susan is not only Indian but also BLACK! Half Indian half Black...
[Edited 2/25/17 19:26pm]

-/- But her mom was not black. This list has been around for a while and we only found out about Elisa a few weeks ago. Some of this may be true and we know one night jump off do not take up that much time.
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Reply #9 posted 02/25/17 7:49pm

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oh come on, give the ladies a bit more credit than that. I think he would have to at least perfect his game a bit and put the women at ease. When was he doing this, during rehearsal? In the four hours, he had to sleep. They weren't all desperate star fuckers who would jump to sucking him off with a snap of the fingers.

laurarichardson said:

luvgirl said:
Not buying some of them. The one about Susan's mother not liking Prince because he was black doesn't make sense because Susan is not only Indian but also BLACK! Half Indian half Black... [Edited 2/25/17 19:26pm]
-/- But her mom was not black. This list has been around for a while and we only found out about Elisa a few weeks ago. Some of this may be true and we know one night jump off do not take up that much time.

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Reply #10 posted 02/25/17 8:00pm

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purplerabbithole said:

oh come on, give the ladies a bit more credit than that. I think he would have to at least perfect his game a bit and put the women at ease. When was he doing this, during rehearsal? In the four hours, he had to sleep. They weren't all desperate star fuckers who would jump to sucking him off with a snap of the fingers.

laurarichardson said:

luvgirl said: -/- But her mom was not black. This list has been around for a while and we only found out about Elisa a few weeks ago. Some of this may be true and we know one night jump off do not take up that much time.

I was under the assumption that Prince's game was impeccable and that he was a master at putting women at ease from some of the stories that've been told and the footage with that one reporter. And, didn't he get and try to marry Shelia E on tour? Wasn't it common for him not to sleep at all? Were they not all desperate to sleep with Prince? How does one resist 20 to 40 something Prince? From the women's end, I don't think there's much resistance. But, at the same time, it does sound kind of implausible that he would be willing to sleep with all these women.

[Edited 2/25/17 20:01pm]

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Reply #11 posted 02/25/17 8:24pm

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He was a charming MF with clout and power, but he was also a man with a reputation for short-lived relationships, and many of these girls were a bit more intelligent and self-respecting than your average bimbo. Mayte was a bit naive to say the least but the rest were a bit brighter. And he took his time with Mayte it seems (partly due to her age and circumstances).

What I find weird is that any woman after 1985 would think that hooking up with Prince alone would result in a long-term career. Really, which of his proteges actually achieved anything approaching long-term success (sheila E, Wendy and Lisa being exceptions,, but these ladies are not exactly Madonna-famous) . Without P's support or without being long-term employees of his, they flaundered on their own or turned their back on the industry (see Vanity).. I think in many cases, they worked with him first, he then flirted and came on to them, and sometimes a relationship developed and when it did, he rewarded those particular women with nepotism and further support. Then he left it up to them to proceed with their careers. He didn't sabotage their careers (Jill Jones being a slight exception) but he stopped going out of his way. Prince related to people through music and sex. I think he fell in love with women with talent (or in Carmen Electra's case beauty and star power) but he also just accepted that in this industry ambition trumped long term relationships for both himself and the ladies he was helping (maybe the reason he was impelled to sabotage his relationship with Susannah at times and then subsequently feel bad about his behavior and sad about the end of their relationshp..see the songs "Strange Relationship" and "Empty Room".. Maybe, Prince thought he would eventually find a woman who would put her career/ambitions aside and tolerate any philanderings on his part..of course, that never happened (and I am not sure he wouldn't get bored with a women that passive and accepting.)

The list I have trouble believing even included Martika (she said she barely met him) and Carol King...Carol King?--the lady who wrote Tapestry...this carol king?--th?id=OIP.bN__g3GS55GhNuZdDHQTIwEsEs&w=212&h=212&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&dpr=1.05&pid=1.7 I suprised they didn't say JOni Mitchell.

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purplerabbithole said:

oh come on, give the ladies a bit more credit than that. I think he would have to at least perfect his game a bit and put the women at ease. When was he doing this, during rehearsal? In the four hours, he had to sleep. They weren't all desperate star fuckers who would jump to sucking him off with a snap of the fingers.

I was under the assumption that Prince's game was impeccable and that he was a master at putting women at ease from some of the stories that've been told and the footage with that one reporter. And, didn't he get and try to marry Shelia E on tour? Wasn't it common for him not to sleep at all? Were they not all desperate to sleep with Prince? How does one resist 20 to 40 something Prince?

[Edited 2/25/17 20:34pm]

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Reply #12 posted 02/25/17 8:32pm

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Is everything copied and pasted from the Lipstick Alley thread or is there new info on this blog?

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Reply #13 posted 02/25/17 9:49pm

luvgirl

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luvgirl said:

Not buying some of them. The one about Susan's mother not liking Prince because he was black doesn't make sense because Susan is not only Indian but also BLACK! Half Indian half Black...
[Edited 2/25/17 19:26pm]

-/- But her mom was not black. This list has been around for a while and we only found out about Elisa a few weeks ago. Some of this may be true and we know one night jump off do not take up that much time.


I've read them before but brushed them off because some of them seemed to have jumped the shark. Maaaaby a few might have some truth to them (everyone has always thought the backwards girl on the tape was Vanity) but definitely not all. I'm still reluctant on the Susan one because her father is black, therefore why would her mother not like black men? I guess if she was burned by him in the past, but her father being black makes it kind of hard to give it credence. Also the one with Apples and Prince in the sex scene have been circulating for a while, but I never believed it from the get go, and still don't. Come on... having real sex in front of everyone like that?? (And she was married to boot!) shake Doubt it... lol
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Reply #14 posted 02/25/17 10:31pm

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Yeah, its almost unheard of for actors to have real sex during sex scenes. The few times it happened (the movie Brown Bunny), it created an uproar. Her husband was probably on set somewhere during it.

luvgirl said:

laurarichardson said:
-/- But her mom was not black. This list has been around for a while and we only found out about Elisa a few weeks ago. Some of this may be true and we know one night jump off do not take up that much time.
I've read them before but brushed them off because some of them seemed to have jumped the shark. Maaaaby a few might have some truth to them (everyone has always thought the backwards girl on the tape was Vanity) but definitely not all. I'm still reluctant on the Susan one because her father is black, therefore why would her mother not like black men? I guess if she was burned by him in the past, but her father being black makes it kind of hard to give it credence. Also the one with Apples and Prince in the sex scene have been circulating for a while, but I never believed it from the get go, and still don't. Come on... having real sex in front of everyone like that?? (And she was married to boot!) shake Doubt it... lol [Edited 2/25/17 22:15pm]

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Reply #15 posted 02/25/17 11:27pm

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I've read them. I'm sure there's some truth, and I'm sure there's some urban legend.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #16 posted 02/26/17 12:43am

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laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Just came across this site. What's with that?? Anyone know? Is it really written by a former employee? eek

Some of these stories turned up on Lipstick Alley a few years ago. We now know some of these are true.

It seems more like fan fiction to me. The fact that in some post the woman comments she felt hot or jealous after witnessing some of the purple antics makes me think it's all made up. A person doing it for the gossip would only diss out the juice and be done with it. I think...

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Reply #17 posted 02/26/17 5:59am

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MMJas said:



laurarichardson said:


MMJas said:

Just came across this site. What's with that?? Anyone know? Is it really written by a former employee? eek



Some of these stories turned up on Lipstick Alley a few years ago. We now know some of these are true.


It seems more like fan fiction to me. The fact that in some post the woman comments she felt hot or jealous after witnessing some of the purple antics makes me think it's all made up. A person doing it for the gossip would only diss out the juice and be done with it. I think...


--See this guy who worked at Paisley Park in the 90s https://m.youtube.com/wat...5oGxS_BUTQ
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Reply #18 posted 02/26/17 9:53am

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laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:



laurarichardson said:


MMJas said:

Just came across this site. What's with that?? Anyone know? Is it really written by a former employee? eek



Some of these stories turned up on Lipstick Alley a few years ago. We now know some of these are true.


It seems more like fan fiction to me. The fact that in some post the woman comments she felt hot or jealous after witnessing some of the purple antics makes me think it's all made up. A person doing it for the gossip would only diss out the juice and be done with it. I think...


--See this guy who worked at Paisley Park in the 90s https://m.youtube.com/wat...5oGxS_BUTQ


Wow! Thanks Laura, talk about persistence paying off! This was a great story. OMG, the story about his lace outfit coming from a guy! Rumors confirmed... falloff
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Reply #19 posted 02/26/17 11:09am

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I just started reading some of the stories there...good lawd! I feel I need to take an shower! Sheesh

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Reply #20 posted 02/26/17 11:13am

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luvgirl said:

laurarichardson said:
--See this guy who worked at Paisley Park in the 90s https://m.youtube.com/wat...5oGxS_BUTQ
Wow! Thanks Laura, talk about persistence paying off! This was a great story. OMG, the story about his lace outfit coming from a guy! Rumors confirmed... falloff [Edited 2/26/17 10:35am]

In the 90s he was busy but by all accounts he settled down a bit later. It does not appear that he was juggling as many women as he was in the 90s.

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Reply #21 posted 02/26/17 1:05pm

luvgirl

NewpowerScarfo said:

I just started reading some of the stories there...good lawd! I feel I need to take an shower! Sheesh



It's the way it was told too, so crassly. It felt dirty, lol.
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Reply #22 posted 02/26/17 1:57pm

SoulAlive

I just spent a half hour on that site nuts lol some crazy stories....WOW!!

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Reply #23 posted 02/26/17 2:10pm

PeteSilas

why would he fuck Carole King, that's one that doesn't make sense.

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Reply #24 posted 02/26/17 2:34pm

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why would he fuck Carole King, that's one that doesn't make sense.

exactly, this did not make any sense to me either.

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Reply #25 posted 02/26/17 3:29pm

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I don't doubt he did all that but I have to say as a musician and as a man who loves women, only he could do that and still get anything done. People period want time and attention if they are in your life, women are no acception, they demand lots of attention so it really boggles the mind how he did all that and didn't get rape accusations and jealous boyfriends or shots fired at him or knives directed towards him like most of history's past great musicians. Most of them had to deal with grave violence over women, from women or had to deal with accusations over lovers spurned. So how he did it I don't know, maybe because his image was so feminine and he was so small no one could really take him seriously as a predator, i don't know. I do know we can get a whole list of top male entertainers and they have often had to deal with some serious problems over their love lives. As a musician, I've pretty much cut women out of my life, too much distraction for too much drama. When I see men needing that many women, I think often times it's just their ego that needs it, with prince, i wouldn't doubt he really was highly sexed as well as having an insatiable ego.

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Reply #26 posted 02/26/17 3:44pm

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I do doubt he did to that extent. If he did half of what they listed (more likely) , it would still give Frank sinatra a run for his money. He looked to be putting up Wilt Chamberlain numbers with that amount. I simply don't see how he fit them all in...casual encounters or not.

His lack of size wouldnt necessarily stop people from bringing up charges if they wanted to. Also in reference to Frank Sinatra, one friend once stated that "he wasn't a womanizer. He was womanized." Maybe a bit of that went on with Prince. Maybe, women gravitated toward him a bit. However, Sinatra did get accusations of abuse and being a baby daddy thrown at him posthumously...not particularly believable ones, but still.

PeteSilas said:

I don't doubt he did all that but I have to say as a musician and as a man who loves women, only he could do that and still get anything done. People period want time and attention if they are in your life, women are no acception, they demand lots of attention so it really boggles the mind how he did all that and didn't get rape accusations and jealous boyfriends or shots fired at him or knives directed towards him like most of history's past great musicians. Most of them had to deal with grave violence over women, from women or had to deal with accusations over lovers spurned. So how he did it I don't know, maybe because his image was so feminine and he was so small no one could really take him seriously as a predator, i don't know. I do know we can get a whole list of top male entertainers and they have often had to deal with some serious problems over their love lives. As a musician, I've pretty much cut women out of my life, too much distraction for too much drama. When I see men needing that many women, I think often times it's just their ego that needs it, with prince, i wouldn't doubt he really was highly sexed as well as having an insatiable ego.

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Reply #27 posted 02/26/17 3:56pm

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PeteSilas said:

why would he fuck Carole King, that's one that doesn't make sense.

http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=Slow_Love

It is not Carole King it is Carole Davis the lady who wrote Slow Love with.

Long rumors about her and I can tell you she wrote some nasty crap on her twitter the day he died so no love between those two.

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Reply #28 posted 02/26/17 3:57pm

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Ian Halprin said the women prince had been with was in the thousands, seems unlikely, but how many women wanted to be with prince ?(at any age no less) surely in the millions, so maybe??...what would it be like to be the person that could have anyone, buy anything, go everywhere. What an awesome life, prince had an awesome life, prince is awesome...
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Reply #29 posted 02/26/17 3:59pm

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PeteSilas said:

I don't doubt he did all that but I have to say as a musician and as a man who loves women, only he could do that and still get anything done. People period want time and attention if they are in your life, women are no acception, they demand lots of attention so it really boggles the mind how he did all that and didn't get rape accusations and jealous boyfriends or shots fired at him or knives directed towards him like most of history's past great musicians. Most of them had to deal with grave violence over women, from women or had to deal with accusations over lovers spurned. So how he did it I don't know, maybe because his image was so feminine and he was so small no one could really take him seriously as a predator, i don't know. I do know we can get a whole list of top male entertainers and they have often had to deal with some serious problems over their love lives. As a musician, I've pretty much cut women out of my life, too much distraction for too much drama. When I see men needing that many women, I think often times it's just their ego that needs it, with prince, i wouldn't doubt he really was highly sexed as well as having an insatiable ego.

Remember what Alan Leeds said he had in house groupies. A lot of these women worked for him and during the 1999 tour Vanity, Susan and Jill were all riding on the same bus. He would get off of his bus and go take one to his bus on different days.

I believe along with employees/dates he had his jumpoffs. Nothing serious or long term so as not to interfere with the music.

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