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Reply #120 posted 01/13/17 4:33pm

gandorb

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Do Yourself A Favor

Nice and energetic and pop-y enough to get the majority of non-fams to like.

Absolutely love this song but don't think it is downloadable from the mainstream places???

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Reply #121 posted 01/13/17 4:36pm

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I believe I am chanelling Prince himself when I shudder at such campaigns.

“I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.”
-Robert Anton Wilson
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Reply #122 posted 01/13/17 4:51pm

gandorb

CherryMoon57 said:

RODSERLING said:

Yes. Billboard rules and the vast us market make a campaign impossible in this chart. That's why these rules are for...

Even if your campaign makes some noise in the whole country and make it to #1, you can be sure that the Billboard staff will prevent it from charting in the hot 100.

[Edited 1/10/17 1:49am]

What if we used a recent track or one that has never entered the charts at all?

Remeber how Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody re-charted after the 1991 rules and did fantastic not too loing after Freddie died. Of course, we will need to get our designated song in a Wayne's World sequel lol !

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Reply #123 posted 01/13/17 5:06pm

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XSX said:

I believe I am chanelling Prince himself when I shudder at such campaigns.

See my reply on the other thread prince.org/msg/7/437343?j...sg_9827852

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Reply #124 posted 01/13/17 5:11pm

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gandorb said:

AnonymousFan said:

Do Yourself A Favor

Nice and energetic and pop-y enough to get the majority of non-fams to like.

Absolutely love this song but don't think it is downloadable from the mainstream places???

eek sad Ah yes you're right, but don't worry, we will remove it in time before the final poll, after all the criteria has been applied.

Still nice to see the list of all the tracks that people have chosen.

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Reply #125 posted 01/13/17 5:12pm

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gandorb said:

CherryMoon57 said:

What if we used a recent track or one that has never entered the charts at all?

Remeber how Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody re-charted after the 1991 rules and did fantastic not too loing after Freddie died. Of course, we will need to get our designated song in a Wayne's World sequel lol !

lol Yeah! Let's Go Crazy! headbang

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Reply #126 posted 01/13/17 5:37pm

gandorb

I am looking forward to being able to participate in this campaign given it is for all of the citizens of the world. I appreciate your hard work, Cherrymoon, as well as the efforts of all involved.

A couple of ideas:

(1) I support the notion that a recent song might be the best way to go, as they have been overlooked, would not have any Billboard chart rules issues, and there is a great one available that has been mentioned: Black Muse. The fact that it is from Prince's last studio album, exhibits that he was a genuis right up to the end of his life, and is so relevant with all that is going on in the world right now make it an excellent choice. It may get more people to finally listen to the album as well.

(2) If by chance that we get a pleasant surprise and the PR Deluxe is released while the campaign is in gear, then it may be advisable to capitalize on it's publicity (and possible streaming availability) and select one of the previously unreleased songs on it. I imagine they will release the song list several weeks prior to the release of the actual CDs. If there is no clear choice, then the remastered PR would be an obvious choice. People love this song around the world, and there would be interest in getting the remastered version.

(3) For sentimental and musical reasons, I could get behind Paisley Park if #1 and #2 aren't viable. I think the song is more significant now then when it was released given that even the general public now knows the connection between Prince and his Paisley Park compound. The inspiration for PP is so beautifully rendered in the song. It was also overlooked becaause there was a full scale backlash against Prince when ATWIAD was released.

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Reply #127 posted 01/13/17 6:06pm

CherryMoon57

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gandorb said:

I am looking forward to being able to participate in this campaign given it is for all of the citizens of the world. I appreciate your hard work, Cherrymoon, as well as the efforts of all involved.

A couple of ideas:

(1) I support the notion that a recent song might be the best way to go, as they have been overlooked, would not have any Billboard chart rules issues, and there is a great one available that has been mentioned: Black Muse. The fact that it is from Prince's last studio album, exhibits that he was a genuis right up to the end of his life, and is so relevant with all that is going on in the world right now make it an excellent choice. It may get more people to finally listen to the album as well.

(2) If by chance that we get a pleasant surprise and the PR Deluxe is released while the campaign is in gear, then it may be advisable to capitalize on it's publicity (and possible streaming availability) and select one of the previously unreleased songs on it. I imagine they will release the song list several weeks prior to the release of the actual CDs. If there is no clear choice, then the remastered PR would be an obvious choice. People love this song around the world, and there would be interest in getting the remastered version.

(3) For sentimental and musical reasons, I could get behind Paisley Park if #1 and #2 aren't viable. I think the song is more significant now then when it was released given that even the general public now knows the connection between Prince and his Paisley Park compound. The inspiration for PP is so beautifully rendered in the song. It was also overlooked becaause there was a full scale backlash against Prince when ATWIAD was released.


Thank you for your support and suggestions.

1) I have taken your vote for 'Black Muse' (I love this song!) and I agree, his last album sounds fresh and ready to be showed off and so it should be! I have been listening to the two Hitnrun phases a lot lately, and I like them both, the energy of the first one and the chillness of the other. I am surprised that 'Big City' - another great track - hasn't been mentioned yet!

2) That was actually the plan from the start, so we'll just have to wait and see how it all evolves in the coming weeks/months... But I am already thinking that there should be a 'Summer' campaign too wink

As for 3) 'Paisley Park' is the most favoured track so far, but as I said before, the participants votes are just used to guide us in our selection for the final poll and so not a definite determinant. Which means that Prince4Everyone will apply other criteria to determine the suitability of each track (the length of track being one).

Thanks again for your great input smile

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Reply #128 posted 01/14/17 1:31am

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What about 1000 X's & O's? It's one of his finest ballads of recent years, it's hypnotic, it's modern...

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Reply #129 posted 01/14/17 2:58am

RODSERLING

gandorb said:

CherryMoon57 said:

What if we used a recent track or one that has never entered the charts at all?

Remeber how Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody re-charted after the 1991 rules and did fantastic not too loing after Freddie died. Of course, we will need to get our designated song in a Wayne's World sequel lol !

It was a the time where pure sales counted more than anything.
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Reply #130 posted 01/14/17 4:55am

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CherryMoon57 said:

Someone recently suggested 'Anna Stesia' though I am not entirely sure that this song is widely available as a separate download, since Lovesexy is normally presented as one whole track containing the nine songs of the album. I know that there are later releases with the tracks not joined together, but are those available as downloads too? And apart from 'Glam Slam' and 'Alphabet Street' (both included in Prince4Ever), what else is there from Lovesexy that could be used for this campaign?


I'm not sure - I remember "Glam Slam" was the second most popular download from 4ever in Australia, and my guess is because the individual Lovesexy tracks perhaps can't be downloaded individually. "Anna Stesia" is one of Prince's very best songs, in my opinion, but if it can't be downloaded individually, it would be a wasted effort.

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #131 posted 01/14/17 5:25am

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My vote would be for One U Wanna C - also with the video that's leaked recently I think it would be ideal. Bouncy, poppy, positive and uplifting. What a way to celebrate him. And as it's recent money wouldn't go to WB.
Comin str8 outta Preston...
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Reply #132 posted 01/14/17 8:00am

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MattyJam said:

What about 1000 X's & O's? It's one of his finest ballads of recent years, it's hypnotic, it's modern...

A wonderful track! Also our pick of the day today on FB in celebration of our 1,000 page likes! biggrin

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Reply #133 posted 01/14/17 8:07am

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Moonbeam said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Someone recently suggested 'Anna Stesia' though I am not entirely sure that this song is widely available as a separate download, since Lovesexy is normally presented as one whole track containing the nine songs of the album. I know that there are later releases with the tracks not joined together, but are those available as downloads too? And apart from 'Glam Slam' and 'Alphabet Street' (both included in Prince4Ever), what else is there from Lovesexy that could be used for this campaign?


I'm not sure - I remember "Glam Slam" was the second most popular download from 4ever in Australia, and my guess is because the individual Lovesexy tracks perhaps can't be downloaded individually. "Anna Stesia" is one of Prince's very best songs, in my opinion, but if it can't be downloaded individually, it would be a wasted effort.

Was it really? How interesting... Yes that could be the reason why. Anna Stesia is a beautiful song even if a bit sad... 💜

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Reply #134 posted 01/14/17 8:12am

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mikeyaddict said:

My vote would be for One U Wanna C - also with the video that's leaked recently I think it would be ideal. Bouncy, poppy, positive and uplifting. What a way to celebrate him. And as it's recent money wouldn't go to WB.

Now just reading the title takes straight me back to those Summer nights at the O2 cloud9 I've added it to the list, thanks mikkey!

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Reply #135 posted 01/14/17 12:30pm

MrWilson

It's got to be Paisley Park.....

1, 2, 1, 2, 3

There is a park that is known
4 the face it attracts
Colorful people whose hair
On 1 side is swept back
The smile on their faces
It speaks of profound inner peace
Ask where they're going
They'll tell U nowhere
They've taken a lifetime lease
On Paisley Park

The girl on the seesaw is laughing
4 love is the color
This place imparts (Paisley Park)
Admission is easy, just say U
Believe and come 2 this
Place in your heart
Paisley Park is in your heart

There is a woman who sits
All alone by the pier
Her husband was naughty
And caused his wife so many tears
He died without knowing forgiveness
And now she is sad, so sad
Maybe she'll come 2 the park
And forgive him
And life won't be so bad
In Paisley Park

The girl on the seesaw is laughing
4 love is the color
This place imparts (Paisley Park)
Admission is easy, just say U
Believe and come 2 this
Place in your heart
Paisley Park is in your heart

See the man cry as the city
Condemns where he lives
Memories die but taxes
He'll still have 2 give
(who) Whoever said that elephants
Were stronger than mules?
Come 2 the park
And play with us
There aren't any rules
In Paisley Park

The girl on the seesaw is laughing
4 love is the color
This place imparts (Paisley Park)
Admission is easy, just say U
Believe and come 2 this
Place in your heart
Paisley Park is in your heart

The girl on the seesaw is laughing
4 love is the color
This place imparts (Paisley Park)
Admission is easy, just say U
Believe and come 2 this
Place in your heart
Paisley Park is in your heart

Your heart, your heart
Paisley Park
Your heart, your heart, your heart (sing, sing it)
Paisley Park
Paisley Park
Paisley Park

As far as I know Elvis never released a song about his spiritual home Graceland or Michael also with his Neverland Ranch.

How about we all get behind an attempt to raise awareness to the general public of the one place that to Prince was his spiritual home.
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Reply #136 posted 01/14/17 3:23pm

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^Paul Simon wrote a song about Graceland ...

'In Graceland, in Graceland
I'm going to Graceland
For reasons I cannot explain
There's some part of me wants to see
Graceland
And I may be obliged to defend
Every love, every ending
Or maybe there's no obligations now
Maybe I've a reason to believe
We all will be received
In Graceland'

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Reply #137 posted 01/15/17 1:06am

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mikeyaddict said:

My vote would be for One U Wanna C - also with the video that's leaked recently I think it would be ideal. Bouncy, poppy, positive and uplifting. What a way to celebrate him. And as it's recent money wouldn't go to WB.


Trouble is, you can't download that song on iTunes.

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Reply #138 posted 01/15/17 3:21pm

CherryMoon57

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MattyJam said:

mikeyaddict said:

My vote would be for One U Wanna C - also with the video that's leaked recently I think it would be ideal. Bouncy, poppy, positive and uplifting. What a way to celebrate him. And as it's recent money wouldn't go to WB.


Trouble is, you can't download that song on iTunes.


Oh, you're right! I'm gonna have to remove Chelsea Rodgers too.

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Reply #139 posted 01/15/17 3:40pm

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A useful link for those interested: Prince's full Official Charts history (UK)

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

'Paisley Park' had reached #18!

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Reply #140 posted 01/16/17 4:25am

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Here is the list of the current most popular 10 choices:


1. Paisley Park

2. Way Back Home

3. 1000 X's & 0's / Purple Rain

4. Sign 'O' The Times

5. 7

6. Hardrocklover

7. Free Urself

8. When You Were Mine / When Doves Cry / Nothing Compares 2 U

9. Black Muse

10. Funknroll



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Reply #141 posted 01/16/17 4:35am

RODSERLING

CherryMoon57 said:

A useful link for those interested: Prince's full Official Charts history (UK)

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

'Paisley Park' had reached #18!

Yes, it sold 95.000 ex in the UK, more than CREAM for instance (80.000 ex) !
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Reply #142 posted 01/16/17 6:41am

Spayne

CherryMoon57 said:

A useful link for those interested: Prince's full Official Charts history (UK)

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

'Paisley Park' had reached #18!

Interesting thing to note from those UK single chart positions is the most recent 3....

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A. Raspberry Beret (Paisley Park records) - charted for the first time in 2016.

Raspberry Beret (WEA) - charted in 1985 and probably 2016.

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That means that the record companies (never requested them combined for sales)

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B. 1999 & Little Red Corvette was a double A-Side back in 1985 but as they were downloaded separately they've now got their own position.

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C. Purple Rain has always been Warner/WEA so therefore no matter what album you bought it from it was combined. Hence the New chart high of No 6 that was reached last year but recorded against the 1984 release (I think previously it reached No 7 or 8)

.

.

Basically when choosing a song it may be best for the song to have only been released by one record company (to avoid confusion from consumers buying from multiple albums/companies).

Also to avoid a double A-Side which will now get split.

[Edited 1/16/17 6:42am]

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Reply #143 posted 01/16/17 7:01am

RODSERLING

Spayne said:

CherryMoon57 said:

A useful link for those interested: Prince's full Official Charts history (UK)

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

'Paisley Park' had reached #18!

Interesting thing to note from those UK single chart positions is the most recent 3....

.

A. Raspberry Beret (Paisley Park records) - charted for the first time in 2016.

Raspberry Beret (WEA) - charted in 1985 and probably 2016.

.

That means that the record companies (never requested them combined for sales)

.

B. 1999 & Little Red Corvette was a double A-Side back in 1985 but as they were downloaded separately they've now got their own position.

.

C. Purple Rain has always been Warner/WEA so therefore no matter what album you bought it from it was combined. Hence the New chart high of No 6 that was reached last year but recorded against the 1984 release (I think previously it reached No 7 or 8)

.

.

Basically when choosing a song it may be best for the song to have only been released by one record company (to avoid confusion from consumers buying from multiple albums/companies).

Also to avoid a double A-Side which will now get split.

[Edited 1/16/17 6:42am]

A new rule in the uk chart, since the death of Bowie and Prince, allowed old tracks to be combined with the chartrun of the old. That's why George Michael re-entry are combined within the old chartrun.

That is to say, if Purple rain (for instance or another already charted song) enters the uk charts, it won't be considered as a 2017 reentry in this official charts link :

.

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

Hence the interest in getting a never-charted song.

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Reply #144 posted 01/16/17 3:27pm

CherryMoon57

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Spayne said:

CherryMoon57 said:

A useful link for those interested: Prince's full Official Charts history (UK)

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

'Paisley Park' had reached #18!

Interesting thing to note from those UK single chart positions is the most recent 3....

.

A. Raspberry Beret (Paisley Park records) - charted for the first time in 2016.

Raspberry Beret (WEA) - charted in 1985 and probably 2016.

.

That means that the record companies (never requested them combined for sales)

.

B. 1999 & Little Red Corvette was a double A-Side back in 1985 but as they were downloaded separately they've now got their own position.

.

C. Purple Rain has always been Warner/WEA so therefore no matter what album you bought it from it was combined. Hence the New chart high of No 6 that was reached last year but recorded against the 1984 release (I think previously it reached No 7 or 8)

.

.

Basically when choosing a song it may be best for the song to have only been released by one record company (to avoid confusion from consumers buying from multiple albums/companies).

Also to avoid a double A-Side which will now get split.

[Edited 1/16/17 6:42am]

Very interesting info Spayne, I'll try to keep all that in mind. thumbs up!

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Reply #145 posted 01/16/17 3:34pm

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RODSERLING said:

Spayne said:

Interesting thing to note from those UK single chart positions is the most recent 3....

.

A. Raspberry Beret (Paisley Park records) - charted for the first time in 2016.

Raspberry Beret (WEA) - charted in 1985 and probably 2016.

.

That means that the record companies (never requested them combined for sales)

.

B. 1999 & Little Red Corvette was a double A-Side back in 1985 but as they were downloaded separately they've now got their own position.

.

C. Purple Rain has always been Warner/WEA so therefore no matter what album you bought it from it was combined. Hence the New chart high of No 6 that was reached last year but recorded against the 1984 release (I think previously it reached No 7 or 8)

.

.

Basically when choosing a song it may be best for the song to have only been released by one record company (to avoid confusion from consumers buying from multiple albums/companies).

Also to avoid a double A-Side which will now get split.

[Edited 1/16/17 6:42am]

A new rule in the uk chart, since the death of Bowie and Prince, allowed old tracks to be combined with the chartrun of the old. That's why George Michael re-entry are combined within the old chartrun.

That is to say, if Purple rain (for instance or another already charted song) enters the uk charts, it won't be considered as a 2017 reentry in this official charts link :

.

http://www.officialcharts...19/prince/

Hence the interest in getting a never-charted song.

Thankfully, a big handful of tracks that never entered the charts are now making their way up the list. cool

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Reply #146 posted 01/16/17 4:48pm

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We've just had the first mention of 'Condition of The Heart' bow

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Reply #147 posted 01/16/17 9:39pm

Dibblekins

If we're going to go for a track that's never charted, I take it 'Empty Room' isn't available to download? I'm not sure it's ever been officially released, has it? It does have an official video, I do know that!

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On the other hand, if Purple Rain: the Remaster, is on sale by then, complete with previously unreleased tracks, my vote would go to 'ELECTRIC INTERCOURSE' without a shadow of a doubt!!!
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Reply #148 posted 01/17/17 2:23am

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Dibblekins said:

If we're going to go for a track that's never charted, I take it 'Empty Room' isn't available to download? I'm not sure it's ever been officially released, has it? It does have an official video, I do know that!

.
On the other hand, if Purple Rain: the Remaster, is on sale by then, complete with previously unreleased tracks, my vote would go to 'ELECTRIC INTERCOURSE' without a shadow of a doubt!!!
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'Empty Room' (from 'C-Note') is another one of these poignant amazing songs (like 'The Love We Make') that are unavailable to officially download - at least not anymore: it was made temporarily available in 2015 but only through the NPGMC, so was never eligible for the charts. I personnally think it even deserves its own release!


Electric Intercourse is great too, let's hope it will be included. smile

[Edited 1/17/17 2:36am]

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Reply #149 posted 01/17/17 5:29am

Dibblekins

CherryMoon57 said:

'Empty Room' (from 'C-Note') is another one of these poignant amazing songs (like 'The Love We Make') that are unavailable to officially download - at least not anymore: it was made temporarily available in 2015 but only through the NPGMC, so was never eligible for the charts. I personnally think it even deserves its own release!


Electric Intercourse is great too, let's hope it will be included. smile

[Edited 1/17/17 2:36am]

Agree with you on all counts, Cherry...Prince really did march to the beat of his own drum, didn't he? Amazing songs never having a chance to soar in the public domain...I believe him when he said that, to him, the success was just having made the song - not seeing it in the charts. Of course, for us mere mortals, it matters that others should hear his magnificence!

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