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Thread started 12/04/16 1:55pm

BillieBalloon

Princes band members were afraid of confronting him directly..

I read an excerpt from a guy that said Prince's band members were so afraid to approach him about an issue that they would send messages through a spokesperson (another band member) rather than confront him themselves. The guy was so surprised that he carrying a gun or what?. Obviously he wasn't but still they would never approach him themselves. Why do you think this is? I'll try to find the excerpt



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But I didn’t really understand what he had over them, or why they feared him. One day I went down there, and I was saying to Prince about the complaints of certain individuals in the band. I turned around and said to Bobby and André, you know, “Isn’t that right, guys?”, and no one said nothing. It totally amazed me. I looked at them and said, “Jesus, does he have a gun on him or something?”
- Pepe Willie , Prince: A Pop Life by Dave Hill






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Reply #1 posted 12/04/16 2:29pm

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BillieBalloon said:

he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?.

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Reply #2 posted 12/04/16 2:32pm

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FragileUndertow said:

BillieBalloon said:

he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?.

lol

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Reply #3 posted 12/04/16 2:45pm

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BillieBalloon said:

I read an excerpt from a guy that said Prince's band members were so afraid to approach him about an issue that they would send messages through a spokesperson (another band member) rather than confront him themselves. The guy was so surprised that he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?. Obviously he wasn't but still they would never approach him themselves. Why do you think this is? I'll try to find the excerpt.
[Edited 12/4/16 14:14pm]

I'm assuming this was during the 90s. I know Rolling Stone once ran a piece with quotes from the 90s-era NPG band members and after reading it I wondered how any of them managed to stick around. By the time of Musicology I definitely think Prince had mellowed out a bit (even though he still had that silly gun microphone).
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Reply #4 posted 12/04/16 2:45pm

malbena

FragileUndertow said:

BillieBalloon said:

he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?.

Here you go! lol lol

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Reply #5 posted 12/04/16 2:48pm

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Well? He is considered The Godfather of music lol
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rogifan said:

BillieBalloon said:
I read an excerpt from a guy that said Prince's band members were so afraid to approach him about an issue that they would send messages through a spokesperson (another band member) rather than confront him themselves. The guy was so surprised that he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?. Obviously he wasn't but still they would never approach him themselves. Why do you think this is? I'll try to find the excerpt. [Edited 12/4/16 14:14pm]
I'm assuming this was during the 90s. I know Rolling Stone once ran a piece with quotes from the 90s-era NPG band members and after reading it I wondered how any of them managed to stick around. By the time of Musicology I definitely think Prince had mellowed out a bit (even though he still had that silly gun microphone).

There was also an article about the airplane captain who was told all communication be done through a third party. It seems Prince was who wanted to have a spokesperson to receive and give information.

As for wondering why some of the band members stick around that long, it could very well be for many reasons such as money, fame, experience, learning...as difficult as situations be have been.

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Reply #7 posted 12/04/16 2:56pm

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BillieBalloon said:

I read an excerpt from a guy that said Prince's band members were so afraid to approach him about an issue that they would send messages through a spokesperson (another band member) rather than confront him themselves. The guy was so surprised that he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?. Obviously he wasn't but still they would never approach him themselves. Why do you think this is? I'll try to find the excerpt.
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I'd say it's most likely due to a fear of being fired or replaced rather than actually being afraid of Prince. Obviously we don't know the details but it's possible that Prince may have hinted that anyone asking unnecessary questions or making demands he finds unreasonable would be replaced with someone more "agreeable". I suppose that scenario is possible but like I said, nobody can know for sure. And for that matter, nobody really knows how true the stories of bandmembers fearing him actually are. Could be just blown out of proportion.
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Reply #8 posted 12/04/16 2:58pm

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So... Basically all we have here is rumours, hearsay... Might as well have a dance party here, baby! lockdance lockdance
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Reply #9 posted 12/04/16 2:58pm

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malbena said:



rogifan said:


BillieBalloon said:
I read an excerpt from a guy that said Prince's band members were so afraid to approach him about an issue that they would send messages through a spokesperson (another band member) rather than confront him themselves. The guy was so surprised that he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?. Obviously he wasn't but still they would never approach him themselves. Why do you think this is? I'll try to find the excerpt. [Edited 12/4/16 14:14pm]

I'm assuming this was during the 90s. I know Rolling Stone once ran a piece with quotes from the 90s-era NPG band members and after reading it I wondered how any of them managed to stick around. By the time of Musicology I definitely think Prince had mellowed out a bit (even though he still had that silly gun microphone).


There was also an article about the airplane captain who was told all communication be done through a third party. It seems Prince was who wanted to have a spokesperson to receive and give information.


As for wondering why some of the band members stick around that long, it could very well be for many reasons such as money, fame, experience, learning...as difficult as situations be have been.


And then there was that story from the Musicology bus driver who had many nice conversations with Prince. Like I said I think he mellowed after the crazy 90s period.
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Reply #10 posted 12/04/16 3:17pm

BillieBalloon

NorthC said:

So... Basically all we have here is rumours, hearsay... Might as well have a dance party here, baby! lockdance lockdance


Calm down. I'm not asking this to be disrespectful. I love the man!
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Reply #11 posted 12/04/16 3:19pm

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FragileUndertow said:



BillieBalloon said:


he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?.




Oh yes! forgot about that falloff
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Reply #12 posted 12/04/16 3:22pm

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anangellooksdown said:

Well? He is considered The Godfather of music lol



Maybe he would make them an offer they couldn't refuse eek
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Reply #13 posted 12/04/16 3:24pm

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BillieBalloon said:

FragileUndertow said:

Oh yes! forgot about that falloff

Gotta wipe the fingerprints!

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Reply #14 posted 12/04/16 3:28pm

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rogifan said:

malbena said:

There was also an article about the airplane captain who was told all communication be done through a third party. It seems Prince was who wanted to have a spokesperson to receive and give information.

As for wondering why some of the band members stick around that long, it could very well be for many reasons such as money, fame, experience, learning...as difficult as situations be have been.

And then there was that story from the Musicology bus driver who had many nice conversations with Prince. Like I said I think he mellowed after the crazy 90s period.

I agree. He seemed more open with people and fans during the celebrations onward. I wasn't a fan of his music in the 90s after the Diamond and Pearls album. Musicology was my call back!

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Reply #15 posted 12/04/16 3:38pm

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LOL lol

FragileUndertow said:

BillieBalloon said:

he thought..what the eff is he carrying a gun or what?.

Admission is easy, just say you believe and come to this place in your heart... <3
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Reply #16 posted 12/04/16 4:10pm

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I think it's safe to say that the earlier Prince would be intimidating and seemed to have no problem firing people, so I'm sure it would have been scary to confront him directly back in the day.

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According to this interview of Jesse Johnson: https://youtu.be/gIy6eB0C350 "it was hell to work for Prince"! But as Prince matured I think he mellowed and was more rational.

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bigtimefan said:

I think it's safe to say that the earlier Prince would be intimidating and seemed to have no problem firing people, so I'm sure it would have been scary to confront him directly back in the day.

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According to this interview of Jesse Johnson: https://youtu.be/gIy6eB0C350 "it was hell to work for Prince"! But as Prince matured I think he mellowed and was more rational.

He was in his early 20s with a tremendous amount of responsiblity on his shoulders and we have heard people from his camp say that WB gave him shit all the time. I am sure he was not fun to be around all the time but those people complaining were not in his shoes. Even Mark Brown said he would not have made as long as he did in the industry if he was not tough. It is a tough industry.

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Reply #18 posted 12/04/16 6:40pm

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laurarichardson said:

bigtimefan said:

I think it's safe to say that the earlier Prince would be intimidating and seemed to have no problem firing people, so I'm sure it would have been scary to confront him directly back in the day.

.

According to this interview of Jesse Johnson: https://youtu.be/gIy6eB0C350 "it was hell to work for Prince"! But as Prince matured I think he mellowed and was more rational.

He was in his early 20s with a tremendous amount of responsiblity on his shoulders and we have heard people from his camp say that WB gave him shit all the time. I am sure he was not fun to be around all the time but those people complaining were not in his shoes. Even Mark Brown said he would not have made as long as he did in the industry if he was not tough. It is a tough industry.

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Reply #19 posted 12/04/16 9:43pm

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anangellooksdown said:

Well? He is considered The Godfather of music lol

Image result for james brown interview gif

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Reply #20 posted 12/04/16 10:10pm

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laurarichardson said:

bigtimefan said:

I think it's safe to say that the earlier Prince would be intimidating and seemed to have no problem firing people, so I'm sure it would have been scary to confront him directly back in the day.

.

According to this interview of Jesse Johnson: https://youtu.be/gIy6eB0C350 "it was hell to work for Prince"! But as Prince matured I think he mellowed and was more rational.

He was in his early 20s with a tremendous amount of responsiblity on his shoulders and we have heard people from his camp say that WB gave him shit all the time. I am sure he was not fun to be around all the time but those people complaining were not in his shoes. Even Mark Brown said he would not have made as long as he did in the industry if he was not tough. It is a tough industry.

There you have it! Imagine being twenty-something with huge recording and touring responsibilities, constant hiring of musicians and staffers, meeting payrolls, scheduled meetings with record label, interviews, running multi-millionaire studio PP, and working to constantly meet the demands of fans across the globe. Prince was ONE young man with all this responsibility and he handled it remarkably well.

Living on the road and rarely sleeping in your own bed, having bodyguard with you all the time with no real privacy, not having much time for a love life, but I think he came to understand the many sacrifices early on. Also, he allegedly felt he wasn't treated fairly by his label who extended certain other privileges to some other artists that Prince never saw... Okay, Prince went through a lot, even with the fame and fortune there were incredible sacrifices he made.

I would say that while on the stage and including rehearsals he wanted a peaceful environment to be able to focus on the music and the musicianship, to get their best work out of them and also keep down any drama. So, it makes sense that the best way to direct his band members was with very strict discipline where they talked less and and gave their best work. BTW, I would LOVE to be able to ask his drummer (JB) what his 15-year tour of duty was like!

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Reply #21 posted 12/05/16 8:56am

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That's not a real gun.

That was the way his microphone was designed.

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Reply #22 posted 12/05/16 9:07am

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musicfan77 said:

That's not a real gun.

It's not?

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Reply #23 posted 12/05/16 9:46am

malbena

PRNluv2 said:

laurarichardson said:

He was in his early 20s with a tremendous amount of responsiblity on his shoulders and we have heard people from his camp say that WB gave him shit all the time. I am sure he was not fun to be around all the time but those people complaining were not in his shoes. Even Mark Brown said he would not have made as long as he did in the industry if he was not tough. It is a tough industry.

There you have it! Imagine being twenty-something with huge recording and touring responsibilities, constant hiring of musicians and staffers, meeting payrolls, scheduled meetings with record label, interviews, running multi-millionaire studio PP, and working to constantly meet the demands of fans across the globe. Prince was ONE young man with all this responsibility and he handled it remarkably well.

Living on the road and rarely sleeping in your own bed, having bodyguard with you all the time with no real privacy, not having much time for a love life, but I think he came to understand the many sacrifices early on. Also, he allegedly felt he wasn't treated fairly by his label who extended certain other privileges to some other artists that Prince never saw... Okay, Prince went through a lot, even with the fame and fortune there were incredible sacrifices he made.

I would say that while on the stage and including rehearsals he wanted a peaceful environment to be able to focus on the music and the musicianship, to get their best work out of them and also keep down any drama. So, it makes sense that the best way to direct his band members was with very strict discipline where they talked less and and gave their best work. BTW, I would LOVE to be able to ask his drummer (JB) what his 15-year tour of duty was like!

This perspective makes a lot of sense! Worded nicely! biggrin

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Reply #24 posted 12/05/16 9:50am

malbena

Iamtheorg said:

musicfan77 said:

That's not a real gun.

It's not?

lol lol

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Reply #25 posted 12/05/16 10:38am

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malbena said:

PRNluv2 said:

There you have it! Imagine being twenty-something with huge recording and touring responsibilities, constant hiring of musicians and staffers, meeting payrolls, scheduled meetings with record label, interviews, running multi-millionaire studio PP, and working to constantly meet the demands of fans across the globe. Prince was ONE young man with all this responsibility and he handled it remarkably well.

Living on the road and rarely sleeping in your own bed, having bodyguard with you all the time with no real privacy, not having much time for a love life, but I think he came to understand the many sacrifices early on. Also, he allegedly felt he wasn't treated fairly by his label who extended certain other privileges to some other artists that Prince never saw... Okay, Prince went through a lot, even with the fame and fortune there were incredible sacrifices he made.

I would say that while on the stage and including rehearsals he wanted a peaceful environment to be able to focus on the music and the musicianship, to get their best work out of them and also keep down any drama. So, it makes sense that the best way to direct his band members was with very strict discipline where they talked less and and gave their best work. BTW, I would LOVE to be able to ask his drummer (JB) what his 15-year tour of duty was like!

This perspective makes a lot of sense! Worded nicely! biggrin

I would add that in my experience with artists, they can be spoiled brats. In this case, his musians may have been young spoiled brats. They need a firm hand!

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Reply #26 posted 12/05/16 10:41am

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Prince so cool he simply do a walk-by instead of a drive-by.

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Reply #27 posted 12/05/16 12:27pm

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I added a flash to the gifs lol

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musicfan77 said:

That's not a real gun.

That was the way his microphone was designed.

This looks real

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Reply #28 posted 12/05/16 12:33pm

Scarfo

Somebody say Gun Control (Gun Control).

btw, that Controvery pic is an real gun, not an mic gun like he had in the 90's.

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anangellooksdown said:

Well? He is considered The Godfather of music lol

Considered by whom? James Brown is The Godfather.

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