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Thread started 10/17/16 6:24pm

gandorb

Shout out for Beginning Endlessly

I have been infatuated with the song Beginning Endlessly ever since I first heard it about 4 months ago. The vocals immediately reminded of Revolution era Prince, with that special blend of Prince and female voices. The song is just crazy catchy, like many of the singles of that era. Any time I play the 20ten Cd, it gets stuck in my head for days. In addition to the song's catchiness, beginning endlessly is a great phrase to describe life itself!!! Prince + catchiness + depth = great song. Not many people have commented on this song either positively or negatively here, so I am curious to read other people's comments.

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Reply #1 posted 10/17/16 7:35pm

CalhounSq

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YESSSSS!!! Love this track!!!!

"Open up, baby..." biggrin
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #2 posted 10/17/16 7:37pm

Ingela

Great track. love how it stands out among his new music. Love the thick crunchy synth chords. They stay with you forever.
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Reply #3 posted 10/17/16 7:40pm

IstenSzek

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love this song. love

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/16 7:51pm

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Interesting the phrase "if you and I could ever open up our dirty hearts..."
Made me think about how often "dirty" is used by him. Quite a bit!
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/16 8:05pm

gandorb

fms said:

Interesting the phrase "if you and I could ever open up our dirty hearts..." Made me think about how often "dirty" is used by him. Quite a bit!

It is interesting how he used dirty here, which doesn't seem in the sexual way that he typically used it. It was another aspect of the song that gave it depth, the struggle for people to keep their hearts open no matter what they have gone through IMO, It is part of the positive message of the song and album.

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Reply #6 posted 10/17/16 8:45pm

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Loooove this track! I slept on 20ten for far too long, but when I re-visited it, this and "Sticky Like Glue" instantly hooked me.
"...'IN A SENSE,' he said, 'you're alone here... so if you jump, you best jump far'..."
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Reply #7 posted 10/17/16 9:14pm

CalhounSq

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gandorb said:



fms said:


Interesting the phrase "if you and I could ever open up our dirty hearts..." Made me think about how often "dirty" is used by him. Quite a bit!

It is interesting how he used dirty here, which doesn't seem in the sexual way that he typically used it. It was another aspect of the song that gave it depth, the struggle for people to keep their hearts open no matter what they have gone through IMO, It is part of the positive message of the song and album.


Yea, not sexual at all, which is why I love the "open up" line - it's not about what you'd think given who's saying it, makes me love it even more.
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #8 posted 10/17/16 9:29pm

Xarina

This was actually my first favorite from 20ten. biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 10/18/16 2:47am

CherryMoon57

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I love this track, it has a great dimension and a real funky groove too. cool heart

Open your heart open your mind
A train is leaving all day
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Reply #10 posted 10/18/16 6:50am

DarkKnight1

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Great track. 2nd only to Future Soul Song on that album.

(Insert something clever here)
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Reply #11 posted 10/18/16 6:58am

dodger

I love the rhythm guitar in the last minute or so, same with Sticky Like Glue

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Reply #12 posted 10/18/16 8:45am

pah

Somehow I missed this song. I heard it for the first time last week when The Current did their A to Z marathon, and I've been listening to it constantly. The sound was an instant hit with me as well.

Prince's use of language has always been his biggest draw for me, and in addition to the lyrics mentioned here, I'm kind of fascinated with the title. Lyrically, this is a fairly deep, insightful "pick-up line" song. So, with the title, are we beginning endlessly in that this is the beginning of a permanent relationship (one that will not end), or is there a sense of endless beginnings (because none of the relationships are permanent)?

I love that it can be read either way, depending on your level of optimism.
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Reply #13 posted 10/18/16 8:56am

3stori3s

One of my favorite songs of all time. I am happy I got the chance to tell him how great I think it is.

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Reply #14 posted 10/18/16 11:15am

wavesofbliss

Xarina said:

This was actually my first favorite from 20ten. biggrin

hmph! u know i said that when it first came out and everyone poo-pooed. said 'sticky like glue' was better.

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Reply #15 posted 10/18/16 11:53am

gandorb

3stori3s said:

One of my favorite songs of all time. I am happy I got the chance to tell him how great I think it is.


:hmm2:please tell more
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Reply #16 posted 10/18/16 11:53am

jdcxc

Brilliant song...proof that there are so many classics after 1988.
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Reply #17 posted 10/18/16 12:04pm

Xarina

wavesofbliss said:



Xarina said:


This was actually my first favorite from 20ten. biggrin

hmph! u know i said that when it first came out and everyone poo-pooed. said 'sticky like glue' was better.


Sticky like glue is ok, but it isn't a favorite for me like Beginning Endlessly. There's something special that grabs me. Guess that is what makes music magic. cool
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Reply #18 posted 10/18/16 5:26pm

gandorb

It is great to see that others share in the love for this song. As it plays in my head "endlessly", I will know that I'm not alone in my appreciation for it!

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Reply #19 posted 10/18/16 5:33pm

luvgirl

my favorite track on 20ten is 'Sticky Like Glue' but Beginning Endlessly has a great beat. It just makes you want to dance..
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Reply #20 posted 10/18/16 5:39pm

gandorb

luvgirl said:

my favorite track on 20ten is 'Sticky Like Glue' but Beginning Endlessly has a great beat. It just makes you want to dance..

I think Beginning Endlessly adnd Sticky Like Glue definitely hang well together and pack a collective punch that elevated 20ten considerably.

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Reply #21 posted 10/18/16 5:42pm

3rdeyeboy

wavesofbliss said:

Xarina said:

This was actually my first favorite from 20ten. biggrin

hmph! u know i said that when it first came out and everyone poo-pooed. said 'sticky like glue' was better.


There is a lot of love for most of the post 1996 material on here now. Its like the lifting of a collective amnesia and transfer of guilt rolled into one.

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Reply #22 posted 10/18/16 6:26pm

ufoclub

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One of his instant classics in my book. I loved the first four tracks of this album.
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Reply #23 posted 10/18/16 7:30pm

Ingela

ufoclub said:

One of his instant classics in my book. I loved the first four tracks of this album.


It's a great track but far from a classic. It suffers from all the same terrible production that has crippled his best works. But the basis for a classic track is there. He just couldn't pull it off anymore it his later years. But the genius is still there like sketches and unpolished gems.
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Reply #24 posted 10/18/16 7:44pm

purplepoppy

3rdeyeboy said:

wavesofbliss said:

hmph! u know i said that when it first came out and everyone poo-pooed. said 'sticky like glue' was better.


There is a lot of love for most of the post 1996 material on here now. Its like the lifting of a collective amnesia and transfer of guilt rolled into one.

Well said.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #25 posted 10/18/16 10:44pm

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Ingela said:

ufoclub said:

One of his instant classics in my book. I loved the first four tracks of this album.


It's a great track but far from a classic. It suffers from all the same terrible production that has crippled his best works. But the basis for a classic track is there. He just couldn't pull it off anymore it his later years. But the genius is still there like sketches and unpolished gems.


"Terrible production"... could you be more specific?
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Reply #26 posted 10/19/16 4:24am

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The outro with the rhythm guitar licks is chunky funky perfection...

Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #27 posted 10/19/16 6:22am

26ten

I love the whole 20ten album so much. I wanted it for a long time and when I finally got it I had forgotten mostly what the tracks all sounded like, so I got to re-experience them again. Glorious haha

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Wish so bad he'd have released it in the US physically before. I know it's on Tidal now but so many people outside of this forum don't know it!

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Reply #28 posted 10/19/16 7:04am

Ingela

ufoclub said:

Ingela said:



It's a great track but far from a classic. It suffers from all the same terrible production that has crippled his best works. But the basis for a classic track is there. He just couldn't pull it off anymore it his later years. But the genius is still there like sketches and unpolished gems.


"Terrible production"... could you be more specific?



Yeah terrible. Amateurish. But like I said it's a great track, but more like a great sketch that shows Prince still had great ideas, but the execution like most newer songs, just pretty awfully. Lacking.

And honestly, beyond the rare album like the single "lotusflow3r" sophistication is something he threw out the window. Whether it was he didn't care that much anymore, medical issues or drug abuse, it's pretty clear something major happened after the 80's for his music as a whole with exceptions to sound so half-ass.
It's an obvious blatant undeniable thing thing that happened to his recorded albums.
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Reply #29 posted 10/19/16 12:01pm

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Ingela said:

ufoclub said:



"Terrible production"... could you be more specific?



Yeah terrible. Amateurish. But like I said it's a great track, but more like a great sketch that shows Prince still had great ideas, but the execution like most newer songs, just pretty awfully. Lacking.

And honestly, beyond the rare album like the single "lotusflow3r" sophistication is something he threw out the window. Whether it was he didn't care that much anymore, medical issues or drug abuse, it's pretty clear something major happened after the 80's for his music as a whole with exceptions to sound so half-ass.
It's an obvious blatant undeniable thing thing that happened to his recorded albums.
[Edited 10/19/16 7:32am]


You still didn't point out what you think is amateurish. Actually "Beginning Endlessly' is great, professional with a creative concept behind the production, where he is taking the demo vibe of Dirty Mind all the way to a progressive barebones clarity. I think the production is excellent, from the dryness which makes it fresh to the clear attitude of not hiding the core elements with an almost thorny in your face attitude. It's completely there and strong. I think you're fooled by Lotusflow3r because it has the exact same production style outside of the effects heavy layered vamping on 2 or 3 tracks. Are you getting wrapped up in reverb?

If you take a track from the 80's like Let's Go Crazy and simply went back to the raw tracks minus the reverb, echo, and flange, I think you would be surprised by how simple it really is. I'm guessing if he had used more conventional 80's style sweetening effects on any track from 20ten you would have liked it better.

I loved when he really started to release some tracks in this dry bare bones minimal style, especially in the Npgmc days. It was like he was trying to make the musical ideas naked and certainly it was not a conservative attitude. He took this attitude live as well by performing a song like 'the beautiful ones' on tv with a dry lead vocal. It was like a dare. He was always trying to push his sound to what he felt was progressive and different from the mixing trend even if his 'genre' idea was conventional or touching upon popular cliches.
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