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Reply #180 posted 10/16/16 6:56pm

rogifan

Iamtheorg said:

Once again some minor dramatics displayed in the prince world and the orgers raise it to nth levels


I think these photos are disgusting but I agree with this statement. PP management is aware of the situation and said it's not acceptable. Let's move on and stop giving these people the attention they want.
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Reply #181 posted 10/16/16 7:09pm

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callimnate said:

This is the problem with society nowadays.

People here are arguing that what these idiots did was within the law. "They paid for the experience" rolleyes

Well, its within my rights to call your mamma a big fat whore!!


Yes, it is!

no no no! People here are arguing that what these idiots did was ALLOWED. "They paid for the experience" rolleyes

nod


As it would be well within my rights to respond...any way I see fit...as long as it's within the law. Right? hmmm

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Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #182 posted 10/16/16 7:44pm

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rogifan said:

Iamtheorg said:

Once again some minor dramatics displayed in the prince world and the orgers raise it to nth levels

I think these photos are disgusting but I agree with this statement. PP management is aware of the situation and said it's not acceptable. Let's move on and stop giving these people the attention they want.



i agree. for the sake of Paisley Park, we have to trust the managing company to adjust as they go and hope for the best.

even if things are getting off to a sort of bumpy start, it's important for us all to remember that Prince wanted a museum and as fans we should support the folks working directly to make that happen. i do believe management will immediately respond to this issue.

as you rightly remind us, EPE is a skilled and capable organization, well able to adapt to the circumstances and challenges of running Paisley Park.

all of this is too weird. too hard to realize he's really, truly gone. we should cherish his memory and images as preserved for the tourists by the staff.

i'm just feeling sorry we're even having any of these conversations at all because Prince passed away sad we should be talking about upcoming concerts and events instead sad

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Reply #183 posted 10/16/16 7:51pm

setecastronomy

All of the cloud guitars I saw there are replicas (Schecter). The only real cloud guitar I saw was in the "Sign O the Times' room. I would question if the instruments in Studio A were swaped out too. This doesn't make it ok to disrespect Prince's equipment and house, though. Shame on the photographers and employees. Also, Don't ask too many questions, most of the tour guides are not very knowledgable. Some of the equipment looks like it was just pulled out of the garage.. lol. I'm glad P kept all of his gear. On another note, I was also surprised to see his new guitar just sitting at the front of the stage. You can pick it up for a quick jam real quick if you wanted to. Actually, it looked like it had finger prints all over it.

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Reply #184 posted 10/16/16 8:55pm

Victor761993

In my opinion, I think normally we can't touch everything, why is everything is not protected from people?

If everybody touch his clothes, guitar, piano, in one year, all of this things will be in a bad condition.

More respect for him, please.
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Reply #185 posted 10/16/16 9:27pm

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Management schould know that mmuseums use white glove treatment to handle the objects,archives, to have fingerprints and people able to destroy what is left has got to be handled quick. I'm sure things are out in the open left unattended. As far as uninformed tour guides, if they can't get that well tuned by hiring seasoned fans or folks with real interest let them do prerecorded audio instead ,that will guide you through the experience with correct information and give a historic glimpse, instead of fumbling with notecards and being ignorant like amatuers to what there talking about. Management can take more time to fine tune this and make sure nobody touchs a guitar or lay on his last piano, which in my opinion just shows this was a quick trick ,too quick and they risk permanent damage to now what has become rare and beloved artifacts. These items need to bE preserved and handled with white gloves,to be admired for another 50 years.like Christies and Sotheby's handles fine items these items need to be treated the same.At least they put his costumes in acid free tissue otherwise, those would literally fall apart over time. And some are from the 80 s they will literally crumble in your hand if not preserved properly.
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Reply #186 posted 10/16/16 9:36pm

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CherryMoon57 said:



Wow.....a picture says a thousands words. Never a truer statement.

Looking at this makes my heart hurt; however, I thank you, CherryMoon57, for posting it.

What an exquisite man...

I agree oh my.. this pic says it all
Thank you
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Reply #187 posted 10/17/16 5:31am

smetje

I was in the queue for the photo last week when this happened. The reaction of the 'real' fans was heavy, we reacted but it took moren than 10 minutes before someone from the security was on the place. The person who was taken the photo's didn't react in anyway, they also should have known that this is not done. Lots of people where grabbing the tambourines and did stupid things with them, putting some ones around their neck etc...I think they should put a person there who looks over the place. This was really NOT DONE ! I think those people were not Prince fans but only wanted to impress their friends with taking such stupid photo's. Please respect Paisley Park and enjoy the place with respect. A fan from Belgium. And by the way : Lenny looks much better and has a lot of respect for Prince.

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Reply #188 posted 10/17/16 5:40am

Noodled24

FUNKNROLL said:

Fools carrying on like this... they planned their photo to get attention. And they're only inspiring someone else to try and top them. For those that think these fools should have "the right" to do this, what comes next? Some other fool standing on the piano because Prince did that and they paid for a VIP experience?! Give me a break.


SNIP -OF4S


If anything the fault lies with Paisley Park staff who not only allowed it but took pictures then put the pictures on a USB drive and gave it to the people in question.

[Edited 10/17/16 5:47am]

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Reply #189 posted 10/17/16 6:11am

Purplestar88

Noodled24 said:

FUNKNROLL said:

Fools carrying on like this... they planned their photo to get attention. And they're only inspiring someone else to try and top them. For those that think these fools should have "the right" to do this, what comes next? Some other fool standing on the piano because Prince did that and they paid for a VIP experience?! Give me a break.


They planned for a moderator on Prince.org to attempt to publically shame them for doing something a Paisley Park employee allowed? Because obviously if Luv4U hadn't started this hate campaign these pctures wouldn't have got any attention.

If anything the fault lies with Paisley Park staff who not only allowed it but took pictures then put the pictures on a USB drive and gave it to the people in question.

[Edited 10/17/16 5:47am]

Hate campaign? I don't about that. Paisley Park staff needs look over their policy if they think it's ok to take pic of fan touching and climbing on items like that. It does not matter if the items are replicates or not. The issue need to be pointed out because people will demage and steal items at the rate they are running the musum.

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Reply #190 posted 10/17/16 6:27am

Noodled24

Purplestar88 said:

Noodled24 said:


SNIP - OF4S

If anything the fault lies with Paisley Park staff who not only allowed it but took pictures then put the pictures on a USB drive and gave it to the people in question.

[Edited 10/17/16 5:47am]


Hate campaign? I don't about that.


Really? they went on a PP guided tour and did nothing the guide didn't allow. Because of that they've been labeled disgusting and disrespectful on here and on twitter.

Paisley Park staff needs look over their policy if they think it's ok to take pic of fan touching and climbing on items like that. It does not matter if the items are replicates or not. The issue need to be pointed out because people will demage and steal items at the rate they are running the musum.


Of course it matters if they're replicas.

If an authentic guitar was damaged. Thats bad. If a replica guitar is damaged, it's not as bad is it? They put another replica there in iit's place. No big deal.

People getting angry because fans are touching things they're allowed to touch. Lewis Hamilton (F1 Driver) paid $100k for a guitar Prince played once (it wasn't even a cloud or symbol). So the benchmark has been set in terms of financial value of instruments that actually belonged to Prince. As if the people running PP would let the great unwashed walk up and touch a piano that could be worth hundreds of thousands.

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Reply #191 posted 10/17/16 7:49am

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Noodled24 said:

callimnate said:

This is the problem with society nowadays.

People here are arguing that what these idiots did was within the law. "They paid for the experience" rolleyes

Well, its within my rights to call your mamma a big fat whore!!
But I would never say that, even if she was, because my parents taugh me about RESPECT.

Simple as that.

If I had all the money in the world, I'd buy a 1st class ticket from Australia to Minneapolis in a private jet, stay in the most expensive hotel, and purchace a VIP to Paisley Park the museum.

BUT EVEN THEN....... I would neve feel that I have the right to jump on Prince's piano to take a farken selfie like that.

WHY!? Because my parents taught me how to be a decent human being.


You can't just ignore the fact these are guided tours. Plus that part of the tour is only open to VIPs. Plus if it turned out the Piano was a replica and Prince had never touched it. Would anyone really give a fuck?

Doesn't he have a Pegasus Piano in the rave DVD? That thing must have cost him well over $100,000 at the time. You'll notice the public are allowed nowhere near it. Would they really let the public touch a piano Prince played? A piano that could be worth hundreds of thousands at auction? I don't think so.

Labeling these people "disgusting and disrespectful" is unfair. They're obviously fans since there is literally no other reason to visit. They're also not actually doing anything disgusting or disrespectful.





Yes, he does have a Pegasus, and it actually IS on display - it's in the room right before the large concert venue. Visitors can get VERY close to it, it's not roped off, but there is at least one PP staff right next to it at all times.

The reasons you don't know this are because 1) You OBVIOUSLY haven't been there, and 2) NO IDIOTS HAVE TRIED TO SNEAK PICS OF IT. no no no!

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Reply #192 posted 10/17/16 8:09am

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Wow. I F'n hate people. Just the worst.

(Insert something clever here)
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Reply #193 posted 10/17/16 9:36am

Noodled24

Bankinherpocket said:

Noodled24 said:


You can't just ignore the fact these are guided tours. Plus that part of the tour is only open to VIPs. Plus if it turned out the Piano was a replica and Prince had never touched it. Would anyone really give a fuck?

Doesn't he have a Pegasus Piano in the rave DVD? That thing must have cost him well over $100,000 at the time. You'll notice the public are allowed nowhere near it. Would they really let the public touch a piano Prince played? A piano that could be worth hundreds of thousands at auction? I don't think so.

Labeling these people "disgusting and disrespectful" is unfair. They're obviously fans since there is literally no other reason to visit. They're also not actually doing anything disgusting or disrespectful.

Yes, he does have a Pegasus, and it actually IS on display - it's in the room right before the large concert venue. Visitors can get VERY close to it, it's not roped off, but there is at least one PP staff right next to it at all times.


So quite an obvious difference then? People aren't invited to sit at the Pegasus? I guess that's the difference between a piano worth hundreds of thousands vs the one in the photo op room which probably isn't worth quite as much.

The reasons you don't know this are because 1) You OBVIOUSLY haven't been there, and 2) NO IDIOTS HAVE TRIED TO SNEAK PICS OF IT. no no no!


1) No I haven't been. Never claimed I had. But I knew these people hadn't jumped a barrier. The first 2 pages of this thread have people cussing Lenny Kravitz.

2) No, as we're quickly finding out, Paisley Park is not a place you go to have fun (anymore).

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Reply #194 posted 10/17/16 9:51am

Purplestar88

Noodled24 said:

Purplestar88 said:


Really? they went on a PP guided tour and did nothing the guide didn't allow. Because of that they've been labeled disgusting and disrespectful on here and on twitter.

Paisley Park staff needs look over their policy if they think it's ok to take pic of fan touching and climbing on items like that. It does not matter if the items are replicates or not. The issue need to be pointed out because people will demage and steal items at the rate they are running the musum.


Of course it matters if they're replicas.

If an authentic guitar was damaged. Thats bad. If a replica guitar is damaged, it's not as bad is it? They put another replica there in iit's place. No big deal.

People getting angry because fans are touching things they're allowed to touch. Lewis Hamilton (F1 Driver) paid $100k for a guitar Prince played once (it wasn't even a cloud or symbol). So the benchmark has been set in terms of financial value of instruments that actually belonged to Prince. As if the people running PP would let the great unwashed walk up and touch a piano that could be worth hundreds of thousands.

Replicas cost money right? So it does matter in my opinion. These people are not children. Just because the staff allow it does not mean they should have done what they did. They got carried away. The anger should directed at the staff and not fans. I don't what the people at PP are doing because it seems like the set the place up without setting protocol on how to run it.

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Reply #195 posted 10/17/16 9:53am

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rogifan said:

Iamtheorg said:

Once again some minor dramatics displayed in the prince world and the orgers raise it to nth levels

I think these photos are disgusting but I agree with this statement. PP management is aware of the situation and said it's not acceptable. Let's move on and stop giving these people the attention they want.

nonsense, there is outrage across social media on this..it a total disgrace regardless of the fact that it's our beloved Prince. Stuidity on Prince's family & tour organisers for allowing it & utterly crass from the idiots doing it. Note that text on the piano has already start to wear away.

Get somne standrads & do not defend the indefensible.

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Reply #196 posted 10/17/16 9:55am

PURPLEIZED3121

Noodled24 said:

FUNKNROLL said:

Fools carrying on like this... they planned their photo to get attention. And they're only inspiring someone else to try and top them. For those that think these fools should have "the right" to do this, what comes next? Some other fool standing on the piano because Prince did that and they paid for a VIP experience?! Give me a break.


SNIP - OF4S
If anything the fault lies with Paisley Park staff who not only allowed it but took pictures then put the pictures on a USB drive and gave it to the people in question.

[Edited 10/17/16 5:47am]

very harsh on Luv4u...Luv speaks on behalf of many in this instance & is 100% correct to flag it up. Those pictures are already causing outrage way outside the org with likeminded, decent people.

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Reply #197 posted 10/17/16 9:57am

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Prince took the pics. lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #198 posted 10/17/16 10:10am

Noodled24

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Noodled24 said:


SNIP - OF4S
If anything the fault lies with Paisley Park staff who not only allowed it but took pictures then put the pictures on a USB drive and gave it to the people in question.

[Edited 10/17/16 5:47am]

very harsh on Luv4u...Luv speaks on behalf of many in this instance & is 100% correct to flag it up. Those pictures are already causing outrage way outside the org with likeminded, decent people.


Harsh? Did they ask for permission from these fans in question before posting them here?

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Reply #199 posted 10/17/16 10:16am

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I'm more offended by that crappy Schecter cloud than the ridiculous poses.

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Reply #200 posted 10/17/16 10:20am

steakfinger

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Someone on that facebook post said these are not Princes real pieces but replicas !! What? Ok now that is not right on another level if people paying good money to see replicas? I sure hope these are the real things but they seriously need to be behind glass and roped off.

I can't speak on the piano. It looks legit. The guitar, however, is one of those crappy Schecter replicas. Total POS.

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Reply #201 posted 10/17/16 10:33am

rogifan

PURPLEIZED3121 said:



rogifan said:


Iamtheorg said:

Once again some minor dramatics displayed in the prince world and the orgers raise it to nth levels



I think these photos are disgusting but I agree with this statement. PP management is aware of the situation and said it's not acceptable. Let's move on and stop giving these people the attention they want.

nonsense, there is outrage across social media on this..it a total disgrace regardless of the fact that it's our beloved Prince. Stuidity on Prince's family & tour organisers for allowing it & utterly crass from the idiots doing it. Note that text on the piano has already start to wear away.


Get somne standrads & do not defend the indefensible.


I haven't defended anything. But at this point it's the same instance circulating on social media. But the more it keeps circulating the more people think it's continuing to happen. I think that's grossly unfair to PP management who are aware of the issue and say they're rectifying it. I suspect some who never wanted PP to open to the public and have no time for Graceland running it are all to happy to keep this story alive. wink
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Reply #202 posted 10/17/16 10:37am

rogifan

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Replicas cost money right? So it does matter in my opinion. These people are not children. Just because the staff allow it does not mean they should have done what they did. They got carried away. The anger should directed at the staff and not fans. I don't what the people at PP are doing because it seems like the set the place up without setting protocol on how to run it.


I'm sorry but fans shouldn't be let off the hook. Anyone with half a brain should know to be respectful and not do what they did. Yes shame on the staff for allowing them to do it but shame on them for even thinking of it in the first place.
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Reply #203 posted 10/17/16 10:50am

Purplestar88

I agree will what you said. These people are not children and should know better. But as you see some people think the fans are getting too much criticism.

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Reply #204 posted 10/17/16 10:51am

Purplestar88

rogifan said:

Purplestar88 said:
Replicas cost money right? So it does matter in my opinion. These people are not children. Just because the staff allow it does not mean they should have done what they did. They got carried away. The anger should directed at the staff and not fans. I don't what the people at PP are doing because it seems like the set the place up without setting protocol on how to run it.
I'm sorry but fans shouldn't be let off the hook. Anyone with half a brain should know to be respectful and not do what they did. Yes shame on the staff for allowing them to do it but shame on them for even thinking of it in the first place.

I agree will what you said. These people are not children and should know better. But as you see some people think the fans are getting too much criticism.

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Reply #205 posted 10/17/16 11:00am

rogifan

Purplestar88 said:



rogifan said:


Purplestar88 said:
Replicas cost money right? So it does matter in my opinion. These people are not children. Just because the staff allow it does not mean they should have done what they did. They got carried away. The anger should directed at the staff and not fans. I don't what the people at PP are doing because it seems like the set the place up without setting protocol on how to run it.

I'm sorry but fans shouldn't be let off the hook. Anyone with half a brain should know to be respectful and not do what they did. Yes shame on the staff for allowing them to do it but shame on them for even thinking of it in the first place.

I agree will what you said. These people are not children and should know better. But as you see some people think the fans are getting too much criticism.


Because people are cynical and suspicious of the Estate, Graceland, Londell, etc. Fans can do no wrong. I say BS. If you are a true fan you'd never think to do something like this in the first place. Have some respect.
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Reply #206 posted 10/17/16 11:45am

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The point of it being a Museum is to display the authentic items, not replicas, that's what being a museum means.
Do you think the Liberace museum was letting fools like this take photos at his mirrored Baldwin, his costumes were encased in glass and the pianos were on risers that spun around, The same with Graceland it's all authentic not replicated. And they had fans who loved them and honored the opportunity to finally see it in person. Without acting like they were at Disneyland , so even if they threw a replica in ,these idiots who dishonored what sacred opportunity they just experienced just blew it, as well as the guides there , they are just as much at fault! But I highly doubt that the cloud is a replica. Which makes me want to puke even more.
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Reply #207 posted 10/17/16 11:53am

setecastronomy

The replica guitars were dissapointing, took some of the magic away for me. I wouldn't even call those clouds a replica - they're far from exact. The tour guides pass these off as the real deal and the people in my tour were in Awwee because they thought it was the real white cloud from Purple Rain -- False! Why not just say it's a replica and that he broke the real one? I believe there is room for a lot of improvement. Hopefully, they will offer a private tour in the future.... if it last.

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Reply #208 posted 10/17/16 12:16pm

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This is how you behave in Princes house!

..Hello, who is it?
Yes, this is a prettyman, Princey!
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Reply #209 posted 10/17/16 12:26pm

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i am glad PP is saying they will put an end to it...

but after some thinking about it... and this may do to my money situation... and to being over all lazy...and that i have not really gone into whatever i am going to do over this... as of no i have no desire to go to PP.

a few days after i got suckered into a candle light vigil... a lot of twentey-firsters a few deep fans but mostly just hit fans...


anyway for now I am with Cat on this whole thing.

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