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26ten

Scandalous Sex Suite (+favorite EPs?)

I found and bought a copy on Amazon and it's got some seriously sick guitar playing.

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It's weird to have Kim Basinger on it - I keep reminding myself that I'm not listening to audio samples of the film. It's really weird. But her voice work is good actually - better than Prince's spoken word parts imo. I feel like I'm listening to something I probably shouldn't be haha

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It's such a strange EP - but it's cool. People just don't put out EPs like they used to anymore - and it's too bad!

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What are your thoughts on this thing? Also - what are your favorite Prince EPs?

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Edit: The Passion is so freakin' good - trippy and smooth at the same time. Just incredible work all over this thing. I will defend this EP and the Batman album until the end.

[Edited 9/28/16 18:38pm]

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Reply #1 posted 09/28/16 9:04pm

VanGogh

I'm with you, 26ten. When I first got this EP back in like 1992 I thought it was a really interesting concept to package up a remix like this as a suite. It still is a great concept! It's so cinematic.

Other EPs...I guess I like The Beautiful Experience. Doesn't even feel like it's the same song.
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Reply #3 posted 09/28/16 9:50pm

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I really like the "Space" ep
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Reply #4 posted 09/28/16 9:57pm

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Listening to it as I type.

Yay!

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Reply #5 posted 09/28/16 11:32pm

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The Scandalous Sex Suite is prime Prince. "The Passion" is one of his best guitar solos, and often overlooked. It's not weird at all to me, but it is Prince taking one song and really expanding on it. He'd not really done that before. The music really became the backdrop to the feeling and the mood of what was going on. It's a bit like Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite, whereas it's a concept, not just a bunch of remixes. There's a story there. It's pretty amazing stuff.

Most of his other stuff is really just maxi singles, not EPs, per se. But, the exceptions are Gett Off, New Power Generation, Cream, and The Beautiful Experience. Cream flows from one song to the other, and it's an interesting take on the main track. New Power Generation has the same synergy in the last 3 tracks alone (I live for "Loveleft, Loveright"). Gett Off has such great takes on the vibe of the main song. I love "Violet The Organ Grinder", "Gangsta Glam" and "Clockin' The Jizz".

Space is just a bunch of remixes, although some of them are primo.

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
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Reply #6 posted 09/29/16 4:10am

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TrivialPursuit said:

The Scandalous Sex Suite is prime Prince. "The Passion" is one of his best guitar solos, and often overlooked. It's not weird at all to me, but it is Prince taking one song and really expanding on it. He'd not really done that before. The music really became the backdrop to the feeling and the mood of what was going on. It's a bit like Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite, whereas it's a concept, not just a bunch of remixes. There's a story there. It's pretty amazing stuff.

Most of his other stuff is really just maxi singles, not EPs, per se. But, the exceptions are Gett Off, New Power Generation, Cream, and The Beautiful Experience. Cream flows from one song to the other, and it's an interesting take on the main track. New Power Generation has the same synergy in the last 3 tracks alone (I live for "Loveleft, Loveright"). Gett Off has such great takes on the vibe of the main song. I love "Violet The Organ Grinder", "Gangsta Glam" and "Clockin' The Jizz".

Space is just a bunch of remixes, although some of them are primo.

Agree with these. The Space maxi is worth it for the Universal Love Remix alone.

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I'd also add The Good Life maxi for the Big City Remix.

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Reply #7 posted 09/29/16 6:24am

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Clearing that "The Scandalous Sex Suite" is one of my favourite P EP....


.... am I the only one who think that "conceptually" for this remix P was inspired from the full lenght 12" version of George Michael's "I Want Your Sex"?!?!?


I'm not talkin' musically, obvious. Only "conceptually", in the structure of the remix.

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Reply #8 posted 09/29/16 9:22am

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BoraBora said:


Clearing that "The Scandalous Sex Suite" is one of my favourite P EP....

.... am I the only one who think that "conceptually" for this remix P was inspired from the full lenght 12" version of George Michael's "I Want Your Sex"?!?!?

I'm not talkin' musically, obvious. Only "conceptually", in the structure of the remix.


It's certainly something that could be considered. Although Prince was playing with 'sections' in music before with stuff like "Computer Blue", and even the first four tracks on Parade with the way they were recorded and segued. For me, the Parade stuff borrowed heavily from the way Moody Blues sectioned and segued their music. Radio stations hated them because there was no beginning or end to some songs - not enough for radio. Rush had a time of it too.

I don't know how popular the maxi of "I Want Your Sex" was back then, though. It was more about the first section on radio and the controversy around it. I never heard anyone playing the whole thing on radio, and there was certainly no video for it. So I wonder if Prince ever knew about the full 3 sections on the maxi. Perhaps he did.

The lack of a longer video confuses me because GM was such a pioneer in video, and with MJ doing lengthy videos, and even Styx making a long form video, I wonder why GM never took the whole "I Want Your Sex" maxi to a new place on film. God, can you even imagine that in the late 80s???

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Reply #9 posted 10/01/16 11:37pm

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26ten said:

I found and bought a copy on Amazon and it's got some seriously sick guitar playing.


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It's weird to have Kim Basinger on it - I keep reminding myself that I'm not listening to audio samples of the film. It's really weird. But her voice work is good actually - better than Prince's spoken word parts imo. I feel like I'm listening to something I probably shouldn't be haha


.


It's such a strange EP - but it's cool. People just don't put out EPs like they used to anymore - and it's too bad!


.


What are your thoughts on this thing? Also - what are your favorite Prince EPs?


.


Edit: The Passion is so freakin' good - trippy and smooth at the same time. Just incredible work all over this thing. I will defend this EP and the Batman album until the end.

[Edited 9/28/16 18:38pm]



It's a strange and fantastic piece of work at the same time. Thank you for bringing this EP to my attention, cause I have it since it came out and haven't listened to it for I don't know how long. I will listen to it today
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Reply #10 posted 10/02/16 2:12am

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It's a great EP, even though I don't really like Sex and we got When 2R In Love again.

Part of the concept I guess.

The Passion is better than the album version imo with those extra background vocals.

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And a bit off topic about GM I Want Your Sex, never thought of it that way, but yes same subject and also 3 parts. Strange thing by the way that the first part (the hit single edit) was never released again, not even on hits compilations (just part 2 or left out at all).

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Reply #11 posted 10/03/16 6:59am

leecaldon

I have a recollection that the guitar solo on The Passion was taken from another song and slowed down. Something like Alexa de Paris. But I can't remember!

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Reply #12 posted 10/03/16 7:03am

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Yes, The Rapture is my favorite on this EP. But my all-time favorite is the Space Maxi-single.

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #13 posted 10/03/16 8:21am

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26ten said:

People just don't put out EPs like they used to anymore - and it's too bad!

Er... yes they do, all the time, you could even say there's been a massive EP resurgence since the beginning of the decade.

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Reply #14 posted 10/03/16 8:24am

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leecaldon said:

I have a recollection that the guitar solo on The Passion was taken from another song and slowed down. Something like Alexa de Paris. But I can't remember!

I've never heard of that and Princevault doesn't mention it either. If confirmed it'd be great if u could find what song it is.

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Reply #15 posted 10/03/16 8:51am

imprimis

The allegation was that it was borrowing the guitar part of 'Dear Michaelangelo' on 'Romance 1600'.

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I haven't spent the time cross-listening to compare the two to determine whether it is using the same underlying instrumental recording, or whether it is simply based off of or influenced by the same solo.

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[Edited 10/3/16 8:52am]

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Reply #16 posted 10/03/16 10:09am

CoolMF

Over the years, Loveleft, Loveright has really grown on me.

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Reply #17 posted 10/03/16 10:29am

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CoolMF said:

Over the years, Loveleft, Loveright has really grown on me.


Loooooove that one. In some ways, it sounds like a demo for a pop gospel type song. Prince never had a great upbeat choir song like that. I mean, "Gold" was faster tempo than "Purple Rain", but anytime he used The Steeles or invoked that choir sound, it was never on an uptempo song (unless I'm totally forgetting something). "Loveleft Loveright" could have been embellished and made into something even more grand. But I'll take it the way it stands.

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Reply #18 posted 10/03/16 1:31pm

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imprimis said:

The allegation was that it was borrowing the guitar part of 'Dear Michaelangelo' on 'Romance 1600'.

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I haven't spent the time cross-listening to compare the two to determine whether it is using the same underlying instrumental recording, or whether it is simply based off of or influenced by the same solo.

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[Edited 10/3/16 8:52am]

Time to have a listen!

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Reply #19 posted 10/03/16 4:38pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

The Scandalous Sex Suite is prime Prince. "The Passion" is one of his best guitar solos, and often overlooked. It's not weird at all to me, but it is Prince taking one song and really expanding on it. He'd not really done that before. The music really became the backdrop to the feeling and the mood of what was going on. It's a bit like Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite, whereas it's a concept, not just a bunch of remixes. There's a story there. It's pretty amazing stuff.

Most of his other stuff is really just maxi singles, not EPs, per se. But, the exceptions are Gett Off, New Power Generation, Cream, and The Beautiful Experience. Cream flows from one song to the other, and it's an interesting take on the main track. New Power Generation has the same synergy in the last 3 tracks alone (I live for "Loveleft, Loveright"). Gett Off has such great takes on the vibe of the main song. I love "Violet The Organ Grinder", "Gangsta Glam" and "Clockin' The Jizz".

Space is just a bunch of remixes, although some of them are primo.

Agree with these. The Space maxi is worth it for the Universal Love Remix alone.

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I'd also add The Good Life maxi for the Big City Remix.

Gett Off and THe Breakfast Experience are two of my favorite remixes.

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Reply #20 posted 10/08/16 3:26am

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imprimis said:

The allegation was that it was borrowing the guitar part of 'Dear Michaelangelo' on 'Romance 1600'.

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I haven't spent the time cross-listening to compare the two to determine whether it is using the same underlying instrumental recording, or whether it is simply based off of or influenced by the same solo.


I hadn't listened to Dear Michaelangelo for years. That track got worn out thirty or so years ago as I kept dropping the needle on Prince's guitar and Eddie M.'s sax solos. I can hear some similarities with the style of the guitar on The Rapture, especially when sped up, but they are quite clearly different to my ears.

The Crime, The Passion and The Rapture are simply hypnotic, though I'll admit it took me some time to get into the suite when it came out. It seemed overly long, even tedious, until one day I got lost in its soundscape and woke up to its brilliance. I miss those days of 12" vinyl bliss.

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Reply #21 posted 10/14/16 9:39am

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airth said:

imprimis said:

The allegation was that it was borrowing the guitar part of 'Dear Michaelangelo' on 'Romance 1600'.

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I haven't spent the time cross-listening to compare the two to determine whether it is using the same underlying instrumental recording, or whether it is simply based off of or influenced by the same solo.


I hadn't listened to Dear Michaelangelo for years. That track got worn out thirty or so years ago as I kept dropping the needle on Prince's guitar and Eddie M.'s sax solos. I can hear some similarities with the style of the guitar on The Rapture, especially when sped up, but they are quite clearly different to my ears.

The Crime, The Passion and The Rapture are simply hypnotic, though I'll admit it took me some time to get into the suite when it came out. It seemed overly long, even tedious, until one day I got lost in its soundscape and woke up to its brilliance. I miss those days of 12" vinyl bliss.

Thx for checking smile

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