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Reply #120 posted 09/27/16 10:27pm

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Half of my brain thinks I'm going to see Prince next week at Paisley Park. neutral
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #121 posted 09/27/16 10:30pm

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Mumio said:



Genesia said:




Are you suggesting that Prince could have been revived? eek





eek lol eek


Nobody is dead until they are warm and dead. People have come back to life at the morgue, so I heard. Prince was a very special electric man. Maybe he could have been revived with a jolt
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #122 posted 09/27/16 10:36pm

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I agree, it's really sad how they cremated him so fast. If only they could have revived him back to life..he'd still be here with us. But then again, they say he was dead for 6 hours when they found him in the elevator? Do you think it would have even be possible for them to revive him back? This whole thing is sad sad
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Reply #123 posted 09/28/16 12:12am

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I haven't. It's still hard... I feel terrible that I pissed away 29 years of never going to Paisley Park 15 minutes down the road... Thank God though (or Prince) for getting me in there for the last year. On October 6th I am taking the VIP Tour at Paisley Park. The tour is the last thing on my mind, I'm going is to mourn, to try and deal with him being gone. It is not going to be easy walking through those doors knowing he'll never be in there again. - Mike Rendahl (Mpls.)

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Reply #124 posted 09/28/16 4:35am

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Far from it, but I've made baby steps. Today is the first time I have listened to any 80's material since that day. I have been stuck on HitNRun II.

There are times I think I accept it, then there are times I realize he isn't with us anymore.

'A pillow covered in all our tears'
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Reply #125 posted 09/28/16 4:45am

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Hell NO!

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Reply #126 posted 09/28/16 7:01am

Genesia

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oliviacamron said:

Mumio said:



eek lol eek

Nobody is dead until they are warm and dead. People have come back to life at the morgue, so I heard. Prince was a very special electric man. Maybe he could have been revived with a jolt


I think you mean COLD and dead. Which he was, by all accounts. They determined by how the blood had pooled in his body (which caused bruising) that he'd been dead for several hours when they found him. Ain't nobody coming back from that.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #127 posted 09/28/16 8:19am

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BreakfastCanWaitXXX said:

I agree, it's really sad how they cremated him so fast. If only they could have revived him back to life..he'd still be here with us. But then again, they say he was dead for 6 hours when they found him in the elevator? Do you think it would have even be possible for them to revive him back? This whole thing is sad sad




Cremated him so fast. I mean, if he's gone, he's gone. Why leave the body lingering around in a morgue or something? Would people say the same thing if he were Jewish, where it's required that the body be taken care of very quickly post-mortem?

If they only revived him back to life... Well, he'd been dead for a good six hours. Even you recognize this. There is no coming back from that. He wasn't passed out, or in a coma. He was gone. Yeah it's sad. It breaks my heart, but let's all stay in a circle of truth here. As stated in the thread, the blood had already begun to pool in his body. That means no heart activity was going, and the blood stops being pumped. It starts to naturally move by force of gravity, into the lowermost part of his body (depending how the body is positioned). It causes was we see as a "bruise"; a bruise is broken blood vessels that cause blood to pool in an area of the body. That's most certainly a sign that he's gone.

Do you think it would have even be possible for them to revive him back? Have you ever heard of someone being dead for six hours, having no oxygen to the brain (brain damage starts to happen after , heart or brain activity, being revived back to life with CPR or whatever? No. Irreversible brain damage starts after about 5 minutes of no oxygen to the brain.

It's amazing how sensitive our bodies are to things, and how quickly they deteriorate when deprived. I wish they could have done something to bring him back. It'd have been my biggest wish on that day.

Just when U think U've got more than enough, that's when it all up and flies away.
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Reply #128 posted 09/28/16 8:32am

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I accepted it more or less straight away. I was sad and found it hard to get my head round him being on TV24/7 for a few days but I accepted it.

I still get twinges of 'what if's all the time, but I try not to live my life wit hwhat ifs and shoulda woulda couldas in it.

You've got to look forward, and at the moment I'm looking straight forward, trying to ignore the conspiracy theories and ungracious scramble for his money and property and his legacy and this and that - it's a whole ugly mess.

I understand they have a tax bill to pay but they could have done it with a bit more class.

Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy
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Reply #129 posted 09/28/16 10:26am

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alas neither. Unlike the sad passing of David Bowie where he died with dgnity & a definite cause with his family around him we have a truly awful situation with Prince. Every time I get close to acceptance there's some new drama [wall around PPark, mess with the memorial gig, 6 new heirs appearing, constant speculation about his death, bitching from those around the Prince camp etc]

I gain so much joy from watching & listening to him on youtube etc BUT there's always something around the corner like a slap in the face!

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Reply #130 posted 09/28/16 11:00am

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Genesia said:



oliviacamron said:


Mumio said:




eek lol eek



Nobody is dead until they are warm and dead. People have come back to life at the morgue, so I heard. Prince was a very special electric man. Maybe he could have been revived with a jolt


I think you mean COLD and dead. Which he was, by all accounts. They determined by how the blood had pooled in his body (which caused bruising) that he'd been dead for several hours when they found him. Ain't nobody coming back from that.


No Genesia, I learned in medic school no one is dead until they are warm and dead. This usually refers to a person who has drowned or suffered from hypothermia.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #131 posted 09/28/16 11:03am

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TrivialPursuit said:



BreakfastCanWaitXXX said:


I agree, it's really sad how they cremated him so fast. If only they could have revived him back to life..he'd still be here with us. But then again, they say he was dead for 6 hours when they found him in the elevator? Do you think it would have even be possible for them to revive him back? This whole thing is sad sad




Cremated him so fast. I mean, if he's gone, he's gone. Why leave the body lingering around in a morgue or something? Would people say the same thing if he were Jewish, where it's required that the body be taken care of very quickly post-mortem?

If they only revived him back to life... Well, he'd been dead for a good six hours. Even you recognize this. There is no coming back from that. He wasn't passed out, or in a coma. He was gone. Yeah it's sad. It breaks my heart, but let's all stay in a circle of truth here. As stated in the thread, the blood had already begun to pool in his body. That means no heart activity was going, and the blood stops being pumped. It starts to naturally move by force of gravity, into the lowermost part of his body (depending how the body is positioned). It causes was we see as a "bruise"; a bruise is broken blood vessels that cause blood to pool in an area of the body. That's most certainly a sign that he's gone.

Do you think it would have even be possible for them to revive him back? Have you ever heard of someone being dead for six hours, having no oxygen to the brain (brain damage starts to happen after , heart or brain activity, being revived back to life with CPR or whatever? No. Irreversible brain damage starts after about 5 minutes of no oxygen to the brain.

It's amazing how sensitive our bodies are to things, and how quickly they deteriorate when deprived. I wish they could have done something to bring him back. It'd have been my biggest wish on that day.

I think all were are saying is that it would have been worth a try to shock him if medics did not do that. I know they performed CPR. It would have also been worth a try to give him narcan . I don't know how Fentanyl poisoning affects the cell in your body as you die. I would have to look that up and see if so much Fentanyl could actually slow the process of decomposing due to lack of oxygen. Doubt it though, just a thought. I actually never thought about any of this until some of the above threads but yes, a shock, narcan, adrenaline, would have been worth a try.
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I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #132 posted 09/28/16 11:14am

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oliviacamron said:

Genesia said:


I think you mean COLD and dead. Which he was, by all accounts. They determined by how the blood had pooled in his body (which caused bruising) that he'd been dead for several hours when they found him. Ain't nobody coming back from that.

No Genesia, I learned in medic school no one is dead until they are warm and dead. This usually refers to a person who has drowned or suffered from hypothermia.


Except that Prince didn't die of drowning or hypothermia. So he would have become colder. Room temperature is generally a good 20 degrees cooler than normal body temperature. And it takes awhile to assume room temperature - probably hours.

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Reply #133 posted 09/28/16 11:16am

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Genesia said:[quote]



oliviacamron said:


Genesia said:



I think you mean COLD and dead. Which he was, by all accounts. They determined by how the blood had pooled in his body (which caused bruising) that he'd been dead for several hours when they found him. Ain't nobody coming back from that.



No Genesia, I learned in medic school no one is dead until they are warm and dead. This usually refers to a person who has drowned or suffered from hypothermia.


Except that Prince didn't die of drowning or hypothermia. So he would have become colder. Room temperature is generally a good 20 degrees cooler than normal body temperature. And it takes awhile to assume room temperature - probably hours.

[/quo. I know that. Duh
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #134 posted 09/28/16 11:16am

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Every time I think I have I find myself getting choked up...tha fuq is wrong with me?!!! mad cry hrmph disbelief sigh wall grouphug

I guess heaven really is keeping score...the cosmos are right handed and I am sucker for that right hook.
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Reply #135 posted 09/28/16 11:24am

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4anothertime said:

Every time I think I have I find myself getting choked up...tha fuq is wrong with me?!!! mad cry hrmph disbelief sigh wall grouphug

You are not alone!! We all feel this way. We just gotta lean on each other. hug grouphug

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Reply #136 posted 09/28/16 11:24am

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oliviacamron said:

Genesia said:

No Genesia, I learned in medic school no one is dead until they are warm and dead. This usually refers to a person who has drowned or suffered from hypothermia.


Except that Prince didn't die of drowning or hypothermia. So he would have become colder. Room temperature is generally a good 20 degrees cooler than normal body temperature. And it takes awhile to assume room temperature - probably hours.

[/quo. I know that. Duh


Then why even bring it up when it has absolutely no bearing on anything?

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Reply #137 posted 09/28/16 11:38am

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Reply #138 posted 09/28/16 11:41am

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morningsong said:

hmm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #139 posted 09/28/16 12:31pm

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zenarose said:

4anothertime said:

Every time I think I have I find myself getting choked up...tha fuq is wrong with me?!!! mad cry hrmph disbelief sigh wall grouphug

You are not alone!! We all feel this way. We just gotta lean on each other. hug grouphug

pat Yes, you are not alone. Had a tear-session just this morning sigh

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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