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Thread started 09/16/16 6:51am

bluegangsta

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What did Prince see in 'Come'?

Obviously it's an amazing track. You don't need to tell me that.

- Recorded at least 4 versions of this song.
- Remixed it a multitude of times.
- Created another version of it (18 & Over) and rerecorded it for Madhouse.
- Did several remixes of if (for an abandoned single)
- Included it on a number of configurations between 1993 and 1994, including 2 planned EPs.

Prince has never really shown this much persistence with a single track, so what is it about the song exactly?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/16 6:53am

Genesia

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I think it's just very rich aurally. (Pun intended.)

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Reply #2 posted 09/16/16 7:18am

dodger

Great song. My favourite version is probably the one on 10,000 Wallpaper that segues into Endorphinmachine.

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Shame the EP/single never happened. He was into his remixes and maxi's round this time with the likes of TMBGIW, Space, I Hate U, The Good Life, Get Wild etc

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Reply #3 posted 09/16/16 7:19am

BoraBora

bluegangsta said:


- Created another version of it (18 & Over) and rerecorded it for Madhouse.


I think you're referring to "Space", not "Come".

Anyway you're right in sayin' P was particularly interested in the development of this tune.
Probably he was seein' it as some kind of "key track" in his artistic evolution.

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Reply #4 posted 09/16/16 7:22am

BoraBora

dodger said:

Great song. My favourite version is probably the one on 10,000 Wallpaper that segues into Endorphinmachine.

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Shame the EP/single never happened. He was into his remixes and maxi's round this time with the likes of TMBGIW, Space, I Hate U, The Good Life, Get Wild etc


My favourite version is undoubtly the album version. Just Epic.

But I like also the other versions, apart from "The Beautiful Experience" remix that I find somewhat less interesting and enjoyable.

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Reply #5 posted 09/16/16 7:23am

bluegangsta

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BoraBora said:

bluegangsta said:


- Created another version of it (18 & Over) and rerecorded it for Madhouse.


I think you're referring to "Space", not "Come".

Nope.

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Reply #6 posted 09/16/16 7:24am

BoraBora

bluegangsta said:

BoraBora said:


I think you're referring to "Space", not "Come".

Nope.


Am I missing something?!?!?!?

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Reply #7 posted 09/16/16 7:30am

bluegangsta

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BoraBora said:

bluegangsta said:

Nope.


Am I missing something?!?!?!?

If I were to guess, the Google toolbar?

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Reply #8 posted 09/16/16 7:33am

BoraBora

bluegangsta said:

BoraBora said:


Am I missing something?!?!?!?

If I were to guess, the Google toolbar?


There's no need of the Google toolbar when you got knowledge.

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Reply #9 posted 09/16/16 2:39pm

NorthC

BoraBora said:



bluegangsta said:



- Created another version of it (18 & Over) and rerecorded it for Madhouse.




I think you're referring to "Space", not "Come".

Anyway you're right in sayin' P was particularly interested in the development of this tune.
Probably he was seein' it as some kind of "key track" in his artistic evolution.


Or maybe it was the exact opposite and he was struggling with it. Sometimes that happens. You have a good idea and you just don't know how to work it out. But yes, he must have thought the track was important enough to keep trying. My favourite version is the early one, which he played live in 1993. It's got a haunting, hypnotic vibe that's missing from the album version.
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Reply #10 posted 09/17/16 10:46am

Noodled24

bluegangsta said:

Obviously it's an amazing track. You don't need to tell me that.

- Recorded at least 4 versions of this song.
- Remixed it a multitude of times.
- Created another version of it (18 & Over) and rerecorded it for Madhouse.
- Did several remixes of if (for an abandoned single)
- Included it on a number of configurations between 1993 and 1994, including 2 planned EPs.

Prince has never really shown this much persistence with a single track, so what is it about the song exactly?


I have 5 versions... A couple sound like they could have been taken from live performances, in one there is some audible noise from the audience.

I think it says something that when he performed the song live it was rarely, if ever the Album version. It tended to be the swirling hypnotic beat, bass & occasional horn riff.

I think back in 93/94 the original would have definitely had legs as a single. Especially in countries where songs like SexyMF had done well. It would have almost certainly been a huge hit in the clubs specially had there been a Max-single with all the remixes etc.

Space has various versions, Album, Acoustic, Universal Love, Funky Stuff, Madhouse

TMBGITW has multiple versions too.


[Edited 9/17/16 14:05pm]

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Reply #11 posted 09/17/16 11:04am

Noodled24

NorthC said:

BoraBora said:


I think you're referring to "Space", not "Come".

Anyway you're right in sayin' P was particularly interested in the development of this tune.
Probably he was seein' it as some kind of "key track" in his artistic evolution.

Or maybe it was the exact opposite and he was struggling with it. Sometimes that happens. You have a good idea and you just don't know how to work it out. But yes, he must have thought the track was important enough to keep trying. My favourite version is the early one, which he played live in 1993. It's got a haunting, hypnotic vibe that's missing from the album version.


When he played the song live, he usually played the original version. Suggesting he had a preference. I can't ever recall hearing the album version live.

Also there is no question the early versions would have been dancefloor fillers. The Album version was stripped of any radio potential and turned into an extended overly explicit R'n'B song. Like he'd deconstructed the song and rebuilt it to be interesting enough fans would like it, but also ensuring WB couldn't do anything with it.

[Edited 9/17/16 11:05am]

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Reply #12 posted 09/17/16 11:25am

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I think he did see something special in this song, and to me it's spelled out in the beginning of the earlier versions of the track: "This is the dawning of a new spiritual revolution."

The energy in this song is amazing, and it's all about him filling the room and creating love, and sex, and spirituality with his music. The comparisons between an ejaculation and a "Fender jazz mashed potato fuzztone" remains one of my favorite lyrics of his ever.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #13 posted 09/17/16 12:30pm

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bluegangsta said:



BoraBora said:




bluegangsta said:



- Created another version of it (18 & Over) and rerecorded it for Madhouse.




I think you're referring to "Space", not "Come".



Nope.



There is no Madhouse version of Come in circulation and I've never read anything suggesting one exists. What's your source?
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Reply #14 posted 09/17/16 12:48pm

Noodled24

The May 1995 Configuration of the NPG incarnation of Madhouse has a version of "18 & Over". Given it's built from samples of Come... it could easily be mistaken.


I've got no idea if it's in circulation though. "24" certainly is but I'm not sure about the alternate tracklist.

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Reply #15 posted 09/17/16 12:49pm

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sounds like it was going to be a foray into something bigger , obviously we got two seperate albums. The album version is the best. The others are pale in comparison.

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Reply #16 posted 09/17/16 1:02pm

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I love both polished versions of "Come" the techno retro club mix and the album "macho" mix (those horns!)... and I appreciate the more natural muscle funk version that was first mixed up.

I think Prince hit on a song idea that sounded fresh to his growing grab bag, so he really played around with it.

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Reply #17 posted 09/17/16 1:30pm

dodger

The best live version has to be from the 93 DNA after-show. The way he has the crowd chanting it cool
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Reply #18 posted 09/27/16 10:22am

26ten

Dodger I've never heard that version before.

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Honesly - it's my favorite track of his most of the time - the long album opening version. I don't mind the initial version but I heard the epic first and I loved all the things about it that were not done with the previous version. I just can't have it any other way now.

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The most badass album opener he EVER did - I can't believe he didn't show love for this album in general. Anyone with ears can hear that it is some of the best work he ever did - especially when compared to his other 90s work.

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I like The Gold Experience too - a lot - but Come is just so close to my heart. Total genius - performace wise (vocals, bass, horns especially), songwriting and arrangements.

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Top pantheon of Prince songs IMO.

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Reply #19 posted 09/27/16 2:12pm

SquirrelMeat

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I always felt the album version was the weakest of the bunch.

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Reply #20 posted 09/27/16 6:22pm

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theblueangel said:

I think he did see something special in this song, and to me it's spelled out in the beginning of the earlier versions of the track: "This is the dawning of a new spiritual revolution." The energy in this song is amazing, and it's all about him filling the room and creating love, and sex, and spirituality with his music. The comparisons between an ejaculation and a "Fender jazz mashed potato fuzztone" remains one of my favorite lyrics of his ever.

Same.

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