independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Sat 14th Dec 2019 9:20pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Parade ranked as no.2 greatest Prince album
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 06/03/16 10:59am

FUNKYNESS

Parade ranked as no.2 greatest Prince album

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/22/prince-every-album-rated-and-ranked

I always thought is never got the credit it deserved. I balked at this list placing it over Purple Rain but I certain does belong in the top 5. What say U about this ranking?

Save America - Stop Illegal Immigration. God bless America. PEACE
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 06/03/16 11:10am

Cloreen

avatar

.

I could see that. I would have "Purple Rain" at #1, and "Parade" at #2. It really is a great album.

.

For me "Sign O The Times" is like The Beatles "White Album." Yes, some absolutely brilliant stuff on there, but the double album aspect of it hurts it. Not the knockout punch that a single album could have delivered. More like jabs just looking to score points along the way.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 06/03/16 11:16am

emesem

The Vault waaaay too high and 20ten waaaaay too low.

Otherwise not a crazy list.

Parade is 1 2 3 or 4 depending on my mood. Its really hard to rank 1999, PR, Parade and SOTT.

Gun to my head I'd put 1999/PR as tied for 1 and Parade/SOTT as tied for #2.

[Edited 6/3/16 11:16am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 06/03/16 11:20am

movielover40

I would put it in top 5 but not # 2.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 06/03/16 11:27am

FUNKYNESS

Cloreen said:

.

I could see that. I would have "Purple Rain" at #1, and "Parade" at #2. It really is a great album.

.

For me "Sign O The Times" is like The Beatles "White Album." Yes, some absolutely brilliant stuff on there, but the double album aspect of it hurts it. Not the knockout punch that a single album could have delivered. More like jabs just looking to score points along the way.

I have never bought that worn cliche about it should have been a single album. The reason it is amazing is because it is a double album - the same goes for other iconic double albums like Steve's Songs in the Key of Life or Hendrix's Electric Landyland. Geniuses need double albums.

Save America - Stop Illegal Immigration. God bless America. PEACE
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 06/03/16 11:30am

pdiddy2011

emesem said:

The Vault waaaay too high and 20ten waaaaay too low.

Otherwise not a crazy list.

Parade is 1 2 3 or 4 depending on my mood. Its really hard to rank 1999, PR, Parade and SOTT.

Gun to my head I'd put 1999/PR as tied for 1 and Parade/SOTT as tied for #2.

[Edited 6/3/16 11:16am]

Gun to my head I'd probably go:

SOTT 1

Parade 2

PR 3 (it is unbelievably difficult to process Purple Rain being 3rd)

1999 4

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 06/03/16 11:30am

maplesyrupnjam

avatar

FUNKYNESS said:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/22/prince-every-album-rated-and-ranked

I always thought is never got the credit it deserved. I balked at this list placing it over Purple Rain but I certain does belong in the top 5. What say U about this ranking?

Sign is the greatest double by anyone ever in my view. No filler. So it deserves no 1. Parade is definately top 5.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 06/03/16 11:39am

Cloreen

avatar

FUNKYNESS said:

I have never bought that worn cliche about it should have been a single album.

.

Nah, come on. More is not always better.

.

For an example just take "Emancipation." You really think that works well as a three disc set? Don't you think it would have been a more enjoyable listen if it had been just two? How about just one? Now look at the flip side of that. Suppose "Purple Rain" - the tightest of all Prince albums - had been released as a double album? The tight perfection of that nine song album might then have become a bloated album.

.

The Clash released a triple album called "Sandinista." Incredible work. But I once found and bought a promotional release of that record that CBS put out before the triple album set. The promo release is a single album....and it is phenomenal. The single album version is streamlined, removes the fat...an incredible record.

.

Sure double albums serve a purpose. A double album like "Tommy" or "Jesus Christ Superstar" seems to work best because the breadth of the story needs a longer listening experience.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 06/03/16 11:45am

Poplife88

avatar

Parade is awesome... Agree it should be #2 I would rank The Black Album, Gold Experience, and AOA higher. Rest of list is pretty good.
We're gonna need a bigger boat
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 06/03/16 11:45am

Cloreen

avatar

maplesyrupnjam said:

Sign is the greatest double by anyone ever in my view. No filler.

.

"Play In The Sunshine" and "Slow Love" are filler. Susan Rogers herself admits to that. Go read that interview where she speaks of the "Sign O' The Times" album. She calls those two songs "transition" songs; she specifically states that they were not "core songs" of the album. They were placed on the album just to get you from one core song to the next core song.

.

http://daddyrockstar.tumb...times-part

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 06/03/16 11:53am

PeteSilas

the albums of that period could go in any order.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 06/03/16 11:57am

wishlish

Rainbow Children at 36 out of 37? No.

20TEN has grown on me.

And I'm still Purple Rain #1, SOTT #2, and the gap is sizable before getting to 3. Parade's a damn good album, but it's not better than those first two.

This is a fun discussion, though.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 06/03/16 12:23pm

jayspud

Cloreen said:



maplesyrupnjam said:







Sign is the greatest double by anyone ever in my view. No filler.



.


"Play In The Sunshine" and "Slow Love" are filler. Susan Rogers herself admits to that. Go read that interview where she speaks of the "Sign O' The Times" album. She calls those two songs "transition" songs; she specifically states that they were not "core songs" of the album. They were placed on the album just to get you from one core song to the next core song.


.


http://daddyrockstar.tumb...times-part



I am surprised, whilst it is sandwiched between two great songs, I adore Play in the Sunshine, the vibrancy, the sense of fun, the energy.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 06/03/16 12:26pm

PeteSilas

jayspud said:

Cloreen said:

.

"Play In The Sunshine" and "Slow Love" are filler. Susan Rogers herself admits to that. Go read that interview where she speaks of the "Sign O' The Times" album. She calls those two songs "transition" songs; she specifically states that they were not "core songs" of the album. They were placed on the album just to get you from one core song to the next core song.

.

http://daddyrockstar.tumb...times-part

I am surprised, whilst it is sandwiched between two great songs, I adore Play in the Sunshine, the vibrancy, the sense of fun, the energy.

susan don't know everything, i loved slow love, play in the sunshine? ok, that was garbage. susan said it was her dumb idea to release if i was your girlfriend as a single, great song, dumb idea. She says women want to hear that? not all women, some women hear that and go "what is this guys problem".

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 06/03/16 12:26pm

databank

avatar

Cloreen said:

maplesyrupnjam said:

Sign is the greatest double by anyone ever in my view. No filler.

.

"Play In The Sunshine" and "Slow Love" are filler. Susan Rogers herself admits to that. Go read that interview where she speaks of the "Sign O' The Times" album. She calls those two songs "transition" songs; she specifically states that they were not "core songs" of the album. They were placed on the album just to get you from one core song to the next core song.

.

http://daddyrockstar.tumb...times-part

I do not like the use of the term "filler", it implies weak songs that should remain outtakes are added just to fill in space because an artist doesn't have enough good songs. This is not what Susan says. Those songs served a purpose in the sequencing of the album and though Prince may not have considered them essential I doubt he considered them weak. I don't think the word "filler" even existed in his mind.

I also question the validity of what Susan says: before it was the song after SOTT, PITS was the song after Rebirth Of The Flesh. Maybe it served the same transition purpose but it certainly wasn't placed there on the tracklist to "get us out of SOTT and into the rest of the record". I'm also shocked that she doesn't even remember the title of Parade and that she believes Beautiful Night was recorded at the Nice 85 show when it was the Paris 86 one, a year later! She seems a bit confused about the details (but that was 30 years ago so I can't blame her).

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 06/03/16 12:27pm

databank

avatar

PeteSilas said:

jayspud said:

Cloreen said: I am surprised, whilst it is sandwiched between two great songs, I adore Play in the Sunshine, the vibrancy, the sense of fun, the energy.

susan don't know everything, i loved slow love, play in the sunshine? ok, that was garbage. susan said it was her dumb idea to release if i was your girlfriend as a single, great song, dumb idea. She says women want to hear that? not all women, some women hear that and go "what is this guys problem".

She doesn't say it was her idea.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 06/03/16 12:28pm

databank

avatar

Cloreen said:

FUNKYNESS said:

I have never bought that worn cliche about it should have been a single album.

.

Nah, come on. More is not always better.

.

For an example just take "Emancipation." You really think that works well as a three disc set?

Fuck YEAH! biggrin

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 06/03/16 12:28pm

PeteSilas

databank said:

PeteSilas said:

susan don't know everything, i loved slow love, play in the sunshine? ok, that was garbage. susan said it was her dumb idea to release if i was your girlfriend as a single, great song, dumb idea. She says women want to hear that? not all women, some women hear that and go "what is this guys problem".

She doesn't say it was her idea.

i read she did

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 06/03/16 12:30pm

PeteSilas

databank said:

Cloreen said:

.

Nah, come on. More is not always better.

.

For an example just take "Emancipation." You really think that works well as a three disc set?

Fuck YEAH! biggrin

i loved emancipation, i don't get let little quibbles that i read here get in my way. of course not every song was a gem, but a good 2/3's i loved.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 06/03/16 12:30pm

Ingela

Parade has aged so well. I can see that. It has a permanent spot on my cars cd changer.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 06/03/16 12:32pm

PeteSilas

Ingela said:

Parade has aged so well. I can see that. It has a permanent spot on my cars cd changer.

you know what I loved about Parade? I recently bought the mp3 and I could hear the bass lines, as funky as fuck, and they say he lost his funk. Brown Mark/Mark Brown brought his a game.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 06/03/16 12:41pm

maplesyrupnjam

avatar

Cloreen said:

maplesyrupnjam said:

Sign is the greatest double by anyone ever in my view. No filler.

.

"Play In The Sunshine" and "Slow Love" are filler. Susan Rogers herself admits to that. Go read that interview where she speaks of the "Sign O' The Times" album. She calls those two songs "transition" songs; she specifically states that they were not "core songs" of the album. They were placed on the album just to get you from one core song to the next core song.

.

http://daddyrockstar.tumb...times-part

I don't care. Core songs or not core songs. They are not filler to me. Susan Rodgers or you don't influence my listening of this record. The best double ever made.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 06/03/16 12:43pm

Fizer

avatar

Considering that Parade is my second favorite Prince album, I agree. cool

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 06/03/16 12:53pm

FUNKYNESS

The Black Album at number 11????? eek

Save America - Stop Illegal Immigration. God bless America. PEACE
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 06/03/16 12:58pm

FUNKYNESS

And Phase 2 ranked as number 15 - most satisfying since Lovesexy????? eek eek

Save America - Stop Illegal Immigration. God bless America. PEACE
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 06/03/16 1:15pm

214

This album has grown on me, it's a beautiful album, do you think Alexa and Love Or Money should had been in this album?

[Edited 6/3/16 13:52pm]

[Edited 6/3/16 13:54pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 06/03/16 1:37pm

mtlfan

Cloreen said:

maplesyrupnjam said:

Sign is the greatest double by anyone ever in my view. No filler.

.

"Play In The Sunshine" and "Slow Love" are filler. Susan Rogers herself admits to that. Go read that interview where she speaks of the "Sign O' The Times" album. She calls those two songs "transition" songs; she specifically states that they were not "core songs" of the album. They were placed on the album just to get you from one core song to the next core song.

.

http://daddyrockstar.tumb...times-part

Albums need sequences - songs have to progress from certain keys, with a variety of tempos and moods to avoid monotony (a word I've never heard used to describe SOTT). So what if they were last minute adds? If "Play in the Sunshine" is filler, the world could use more filler.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 06/03/16 1:50pm

purplejizz

The top 15 is pretty good as a top 15 (I would personally have those 15 in mostly a completely different order) but after that it seems kind of random, like they didn't even listen to the albums. Rave Un2 should be last

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 06/03/16 2:34pm

mtlfan

I'm under the same impression they didn't listen to the albums - anyone on here could write better reviews, and I haven't listened to them all either. I will say Parade is not in my top four, though maybe my top five, I feel like there are four albums that are a cut above the others so those would be my five-star albums. Then a whole bunch tie below that. Although I admire Dirty Mind for its demo-version punk-funk attitude, its lyrical game-changing, and the origin of MLPSound, no matter how many strong tunes on that release, it's more sophomoric than 1999 and Lovesexy. Choosing between PR and SOTT is impossible: PR is tighter, SOTT has more voluptuous curves. Lovesexy is probably his most complex and ambitious, 1999 perhaps his most groundbreaking, the rosetta stone of EDM. Lovesexy gets the most plays on my headphones because I've listened to it the least. Come and Emancipation are too low.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 06/03/16 2:36pm

SPYZFAN1

"Parade" is number 2 on my personal P favorite list, so I'm OK with that.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Parade ranked as no.2 greatest Prince album