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Reply #30 posted 06/02/16 12:05pm

Mumio

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In the huge pictures thread, an early pic was posted on pg 134 that shows that hip scar. We were discussing it, but another pic of that area did not show anything...so assumed it was just an anomaly. Apparently not.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #31 posted 06/02/16 12:06pm

terrig

He could have been saved. sad

I have to believe his own resistance is a factor. I have to believe everyone around him did as much as they could.

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Reply #32 posted 06/02/16 12:08pm

Fury

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destinyc1 said:



jillybean said:


Is this real? He weighed 112 lbs. Oh, this is heartbreaking all over again. sad



YES...And many of us on here kept saying he looked bad and thin.




A male 5'3" and 112 pounds would have had a NORMAL BMI

Your BMI is 19.8 (Normal
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Reply #33 posted 06/02/16 12:10pm

DreamRose311

Mumio said:

In the huge pictures thread, an early pic was posted on pg 134 that shows that hip scar. We were discussing it, but another pic of that area did not show anything...so assumed it was just an anomaly. Apparently not.

I never got around to saying this on the picture thread, but with the other image where it looked like there was no scar (on Pg 136), lower down you could see a very thin gold chain, and I think that's what the 'looks like a scar' actually is.

[Edited 6/2/16 12:11pm]

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Reply #34 posted 06/02/16 12:10pm

Conor

This perhaps explains Prince having so little interest in eating.

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Reply #35 posted 06/02/16 12:10pm

limoncello

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Two weeks earlier, in his hometown newspaper:

http://www.startribune.com/officials-sound-the-alarm-over-deadly-synthetic-fentanyl-in-minnesota/374352711/

Preliminary tests by federal investigators have confirmed fears that a deadly synthetic drug nearly 50 times stronger than heroin has arrived in the Upper Midwest — often with fatal consequences for users.

Narcotics seized after a series of overdose deaths last month in the Fargo-Moorhead area — first thought to be heroin — instead turned out to be nearly all fentanyl, federal authorities say. It’s the second time in a decade that synthetic opioids like fentanyl, ordinarily used in medical settings to treat severe pain, have emerged from clandestine drug labs to sweep across the United States.

Now law enforcement and health care officials worry that synthetic versions of fentanyl, which can be added to heroin to boost its potency or passed off as high-strength heroin to unwitting addicts, will inflict a new round of deaths among both longtime addicts and younger users drawn into the opioid epidemic in recent years. Reports of fentanyl use cropped up in other parts of the country last year, but until recently it hadn’t been reported in Minnesota, where the Twin Cities is considered a transshipment point for narcotics.

“I think we’re in the storm now,” said Kent Bailey, assistant special agent in charge at the Minneapolis office of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

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Reply #36 posted 06/02/16 12:12pm

destinyc1

Fury said:

destinyc1 said:

YES...And many of us on here kept saying he looked bad and thin.

A male 5'3" and 112 pounds would have had a NORMAL BMI Your BMI is 19.8 (Normal

He appeared very thin and his cheeks looked sunken in

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Reply #37 posted 06/02/16 12:12pm

lwr001

Every addict is in some sort of pain, emotional or physical. Stop making him out to be special cuz he is no different. The fentaynal also leads credence to the drug dealer everyone dismissed day one and he stated he supplied fentaynal for years.
[Edited 6/2/16 12:15pm]
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Reply #38 posted 06/02/16 12:15pm

iamafan

I saw that left hip scar in a photo way back from I think Dirty Mind era (I saw it on the thread of 'unseen photos' on the org.)

Poor Prince.

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Reply #39 posted 06/02/16 12:16pm

destinyc1

iamafan said:

I saw that left hip scar in a photo way back from I think Dirty Mind era (I saw it on the thread of 'unseen photos' on the org.)

Poor Prince.

Can u post it please

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Reply #40 posted 06/02/16 12:17pm

lwr001

destinyc1 said:



jillybean said:


Is this real? He weighed 112 lbs. Oh, this is heartbreaking all over again. sad



YES...And many of us on here kept saying he looked bad and thin.




Even posted pictures and the denial was thick, statements like he always wad thin etc. There was a paradigm shift over last several years. Even his appearance, clothes and hair wise should have been a tip off
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Reply #41 posted 06/02/16 12:18pm

JudasLChrist

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So... would Prince have been proscribed Fentanyl?

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Reply #42 posted 06/02/16 12:18pm

Letsgetcrazy1

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terrig said:

I think this only tells you why he died. It doesnt matter what else was going on with his body. What killed him was the drug overdose.

I have ot go google what fentanyl is...I dont know anything about it....



I was reading a wiki about it because the reporter on CNN said it was the most potent opioid.

He was only 112lbs. sad

112lbs! That makes me cry... He was fragile. I never could have imagined he was so sick. Our poor Prince. May God have him under His wings in Heaven. Prince, you will live in our hearts forever. Your music will live on eternally. RIP sweet Prince.

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Reply #43 posted 06/02/16 12:20pm

lwr001

JudasLChrist said:

So... would Prince have been proscribed Fentanyl?




Bot that I know off. It used,in hospitals only. A veteran friend of mine died in the hospital the same way
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Reply #44 posted 06/02/16 12:23pm

mjscarousal

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Why did the lady on CNN at the Medical Examiners office have to state it like "This is the new Heroine?" I don't like that! Goodness. Prince was in severe hip pain! He just took too many pills! Geee I miss him. sad

http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn&sr=watchHPbutton

Agree, I don't like how people are insinuating he was an addict. He had a dependency not an addiction. Either way this is very very sad and did not have to be. R.I.P. legendary Prince sad

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Reply #45 posted 06/02/16 12:23pm

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BanishedBrian said:

luv4u said:

Does not say a whole hell of a lot. confused

I was expecting more information than that or is that normal?


It is normal - see subdivision 2 of the following: https://www.revisor.mn.go.../?id=13.83

Any other specific detail possessed by the medical examiner is nonpublic and won't be released unless the family chooses to do so, or someone petitions a court to release it based on a public interest exception.

yes, there could be more underlying illnesses related that the family may not wish to make public as state above. Other specific detail by the medical examiner is non public and won't be released unless the family chooses to do so.

He could have been dehydrated, he may have had cancer, who knows, but it appears the family is continuing to respect his privacy.

Hip pain is a difficult procedure to recover from and many continue to have pain.

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Reply #46 posted 06/02/16 12:24pm

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lwr001 said:

Every addict is in some sort of pain, emotional or physical. Stop making him out to be special cuz he is no different. The fentaynal also leads credence to the drug dealer everyone dismissed day one and he stated he supplied fentaynal for years.
[Edited 6/2/16 12:15pm]


Yeah, the report automatically made me think of that article.....
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Reply #47 posted 06/02/16 12:26pm

iamafan

destinyc1 said:

iamafan said:

I saw that left hip scar in a photo way back from I think Dirty Mind era (I saw it on the thread of 'unseen photos' on the org.)

Poor Prince.

Can u post it please

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Reply #48 posted 06/02/16 12:26pm

Ingela

Whether he had hip surgery or not, the odds that it actually helps is not guaranteed. The odds that it doesn't or that it makes it worse are very good. I have a couple of friends who regret hip or back surgeries. Before such a surgery you are consulted on what to expect and the risks. After such a consultation a lot of people say fuck it unless the pain so bad and the risks that it will get worse outweigh it.
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Reply #49 posted 06/02/16 12:28pm

babynoz

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

lwr001 said:
Every addict is in some sort of pain, emotional or physical. Stop making him out to be special cuz he is no different. The fentaynal also leads credence to the drug dealer everyone dismissed day one and he stated he supplied fentaynal for years. [Edited 6/2/16 12:15pm]
Yeah, the report automatically made me think of that article.....



I notice tmz has changed their story. Most outlets including theirs insisted it was percocets.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #50 posted 06/02/16 12:29pm

babynoz

iamafan said:

destinyc1 said:

Can u post it please



Someone else said that's a gold chain. In other photos from the same event that's what I saw.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #51 posted 06/02/16 12:30pm

LeGrinde

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wizardtelly said:

I have no reason not to believe this. I am just very saddened that it happened and he didn't deserve this. I am just so depressed. I have been trying to make something of myself and with him gone it's like I want to give up. I am so sorry he had to go through this alone.

You and me both! Breaks my heart.

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Reply #52 posted 06/02/16 12:32pm

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Interesting. According to the National Institute of Health: "Fentanyl should only be prescribed by doctors who are experienced in treating pain in cancer patients. It should be used only to treat breakthrough cancer pain (sudden episodes of pain that occur despite around-the-clock treatment with pain medication) in cancer patients at least 18 years of age (or at least 16 years of age if taking Actiq brand lozenges) who are taking regularly scheduled doses of another narcotic (opiate) pain medication, and who are tolerant (used to the effects of the medication) to narcotic pain medications. This medication should not be used to treat pain other than chronic cancer pain, especially short-term pain such as migraines or other headaches, pain from an injury, or pain after a medical or dental procedure. Fentanyl may cause serious breathing problems or death if it is used by people who are not being treated with other narcotic medications or who are not tolerant to narcotic medications."

Fentanyl may cause serious harm or death if used accidentally by a child or by an adult who has not been prescribed the medication. Even partially used fentanyl may contain enough medication to cause serious harm or death to children or other adults


https://www.nlm.nih.gov/m...05043.html


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[Edited 6/2/16 12:36pm]

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Reply #53 posted 06/02/16 12:32pm

ksl1974

So I'm assuming.....he must have had a fentanyl patch on at the time of death? Is that somthing they would list in the autopsy?

Also, how does the percocet play into this? We know he had it on him at the time of death. So had he taken some? Or did he have it/carry it with him just as a "back up"?..until the patch kicked in? Makes me wonder if he had two patches on......which is a huge no- no....but would explain the overdose. But maybe that prescription he was picking up at Walgreens before his death....was the fentanyl? And if he'd never used it before, only been using percocet....maybe he thought, if one patch is good....two is better?

questions questions! confused

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Reply #54 posted 06/02/16 12:32pm

destinyc1

babynoz said:

iamafan said:



Someone else said that's a gold chain. In other photos from the same event that's what I saw.

ok saw that.I thought that was cellulite .Wasn't that pic from the 80's

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Reply #55 posted 06/02/16 12:34pm

destinyc1

mjscarousal said:

GGlow said:

Why did the lady on CNN at the Medical Examiners office have to state it like "This is the new Heroine?" I don't like that! Goodness. Prince was in severe hip pain! He just took too many pills! Geee I miss him. sad

http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn&sr=watchHPbutton

Agree, I don't like how people are insinuating he was an addict. He had a dependency not an addiction. Either way this is very very sad and did not have to be. R.I.P. legendary Prince sad

Thats what it meams addict=addiction......You mean he wasn't a junkie

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Reply #56 posted 06/02/16 12:35pm

missfee

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Ok. The official report. So now we know (or can ONLY imagine) how much physical pain he was in. sigh

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #57 posted 06/02/16 12:35pm

jonnylawson

Okay we have the results now

Tragic - I admismiter and work with fentsnyl a lot , I can understand his this happened

Why not lock this thread now ?

I can't believe people are discussing his autopsy and " oh where did the scar come from "

Have some respect

It's probably because I work in the aeromedical and ICU Setting I find ths incredibly disrespectful

RIP prince - you would have fucking despised all this gossip and lack of respect
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Reply #58 posted 06/02/16 12:36pm

terrywastecake

Surely 112lbs (8 stone) is typical of a petite 5ft 3" person?

Also, did he have hip surgery in 2010 (which would explain the scar)? Conflicting reports on the net some say yes others no. Always thought his jw beliefs meant he couldn't.

Just checked. Healthy weight.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/height-weight-chart.aspx

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Reply #59 posted 06/02/16 12:36pm

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You don't know you're addicted to something until you try to stop. Addict is not a dirty word. I fully believe his "flu" was withdrawal symptoms and his chef said he had been dealing with it for weeks (months?). He needed help...it came too late. Very sad, very heartbreaking.
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