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Thread started 05/27/16 11:57pm

toshi

What Prince was so happy about in 1986?

Just a random thought, I always think that Prince was a different person in 86. He was so happy-go-lucky, approachable, smiled, laughed, and joked a lot. What/who made him so jovial that whole year? Or he was just completely being Christopher Tracy for a year?

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Reply #1 posted 05/28/16 12:05am

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He was pretty much at the height of his powers as a songwriter, performer, etc. And he was sitting on a mountain of cash from Purple Rain era. It probaby put him in a good mood.

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Reply #2 posted 05/28/16 12:06am

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At a guess, I'd say he was happy to have shed the Purple Rain era. We all know he tired (had to check myself...I initially wrote tires, as in 'the present') with project and ideas quickly, and so he was ready for change at that point. The smiles were likely very honest and genuine of a man happy to be in that particular moment.

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Reply #3 posted 05/28/16 12:07am

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If I had been Prince in 1986; I would have been happy as hell, too! lol

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Reply #4 posted 05/28/16 12:34am

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I love the Parade era, he looked utterly fine and was really growing into himself as an artist.

The Parade show always made me feel happy, the pace and energy of it, the fun interraction with Jerome and the other dancers, the band etc.

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Reply #5 posted 05/28/16 12:38am

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I agree, in 1986 he was so carefree and happy. A lot like he was in this clip.

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Reply #6 posted 05/28/16 12:45am

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computerblue77 said:

I agree, in 1986 he was so carefree and happy. A lot like he was in this clip.

I like how INXS "What You Need" was playing in the background later in the clip. Imagine the music Prince & Michael Hutchence are making in Heaven!

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Reply #7 posted 05/28/16 1:06am

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Cuz he woz bangin' Susannah.
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Reply #8 posted 05/28/16 1:31am

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Dude was a machine during this period
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Reply #9 posted 05/28/16 1:51am

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ReddishBrownOne said:

Cuz he woz bangin' Susannah.

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Yeah but he was banging hot chicks all the time, so unless she was especially amazing, that doesn't explain it.

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Reply #10 posted 05/28/16 2:15am

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FunkiestOne said:

He was pretty much at the height of his powers as a songwriter, performer, etc. And he was sitting on a mountain of cash from Purple Rain era. It probaby put him in a good mood.

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Exactly right. He had everything going for him at that time. We all have our peaks in life and the trick is to be at that peak for as long as you can, just stay in the flow. But one miserable tiny little thing goes wrong and you're up shit creek trying to reach that peak again. Then life becomes a struggle. I wonder at what point he just lost his mojo. Somewhere in the black album days, I guess.
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Reply #11 posted 05/28/16 2:25am

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kapo74 said:

FunkiestOne said:

He was pretty much at the height of his powers as a songwriter, performer, etc. And he was sitting on a mountain of cash from Purple Rain era. It probaby put him in a good mood.

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Exactly right. He had everything going for him at that time. We all have our peaks in life and the trick is to be at that peak for as long as you can, just stay in the flow. But one miserable tiny little thing goes wrong and you're up shit creek trying to reach that peak again. Then life becomes a struggle. I wonder at what point he just lost his mojo. Somewhere in the black album days, I guess. [Edited 5/28/16 2:15am]

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Prince never lost his live concert mojo but he lost his songwriting mojo slowly but surely after that peak in 83-87. But like you said, no one can stay at the top of their game for that long. Michael Jordan can't dunk very well now either.

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Reply #12 posted 05/28/16 2:39am

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FunkiestOne said:



kapo74 said:


FunkiestOne said:

He was pretty much at the height of his powers as a songwriter, performer, etc. And he was sitting on a mountain of cash from Purple Rain era. It probaby put him in a good mood.


[Edited 5/28/16 0:05am]



Exactly right. He had everything going for him at that time. We all have our peaks in life and the trick is to be at that peak for as long as you can, just stay in the flow. But one miserable tiny little thing goes wrong and you're up shit creek trying to reach that peak again. Then life becomes a struggle. I wonder at what point he just lost his mojo. Somewhere in the black album days, I guess. [Edited 5/28/16 2:15am]

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Prince never lost his live concert mojo but he lost his songwriting mojo slowly but surely after that peak in 83-87. But like you said, no one can stay at the top of their game for that long. Michael Jordan can't dunk very well now either.



I think prince went on to right amazing music it just wasn't " what the hell was that?" Moment. I think the problem with fame on prince level is you start to externalise yourself and start to look at yourself as if you were a member of your own fan base. It's very was to become your own tribute band. The best example of this I think is Morrissey..everyday is like Sunday sounds like someone wanting to be the smiths.

In terms of prince being happy I think he expected the reaction to around the world in a day. So with parade I feel he still had no sense of how his audience could turn.
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Reply #13 posted 05/28/16 3:15am

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computerblue77 said:

I agree, in 1986 he was so carefree and happy. A lot like he was in this clip.




Everyone in this video looks ecstatic lol

I think he could just generate excitement. .he had a knack for it. I love the way he interacts with his fan. .putting his arm around her and she's so nervous. I also noticed rosanna arquette in it. At the end the winner gives him her necklace. Anyway it's very nice.
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Reply #14 posted 05/28/16 4:07am

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computerblue77 said:

I agree, in 1986 he was so carefree and happy. A lot like he was in this clip.

This is so good, it hurts. I also loved reading Lisa Barbers comments on her date, now that he passed away. She never had another man, as she was still waiting for her Prince to return. An obvious lie, but a very sweet one, since ol' P was so very nice to her that day.

"I feel with my hands, Martha." Love it!

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Reply #15 posted 05/28/16 4:13am

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I saw some of that personality show even through Sott and Lovesexy tours.

But yes this was peak nice Prince before he got all angry and nasty.

Long way between Tracy and the dude in the Typhoon do and gun mic (groan)
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Reply #16 posted 05/28/16 5:26am

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FunkiestOne said:



ReddishBrownOne said:


Cuz he woz bangin' Susannah.

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Yeah but he was banging hot chicks all the time, so unless she was especially amazing, that doesn't explain it.



There are hot chicks, and there are beautiful women. Susannah is the latter.
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Reply #17 posted 05/28/16 5:31am

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Two reasons he was happy in 86

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Reply #18 posted 05/28/16 6:51am

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I also think he was happy because he was in a good place in his relationship with his father. I think also his relationship with Susannah was going well at this point. He seemed to bedepseratey in love with this woman during the Around The World In A Day and Parade time frame.

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Reply #19 posted 05/28/16 6:56am

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Thanks for posting that video. Really adorable! I saw recently that the woman who was his date in Wyoming said that it was the best night of her life. She seems like a sweet woman, glad that happened for her and Prince was so sweet to her! smile
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Reply #20 posted 05/28/16 7:18am

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I think it was a good combination of things.
In a 1999 interview he said what he had during those years was a 'Community' that's what he called it. When you look at 1983-1986 and see who was in his life and the familial connections, we can see why there was such an explosion of music and art coming out of the camp.
He was still reaping the benefits of the 'purple rains' and had accomplished what he wanted. Now the music was flowing ina way that probably has never since. He had 'love' in his life ie community ie family: his father was back in his life in a big way, the band members and protege members were cool with his father, just about everyone around at the time had family in the camp and people who were friends. So that sense of grounding and realness easily extends to envelope Prince. These were people who for the most part were there before the PURPLE REIGN superstardom and that sense of 'why are you here' was probably not an issue for Prince as a result. Later after the 1988 years he had to contend with that 'why are you here' 'business aspect

But in his camp in 1986 was John L Nelson Susannah Melvoin Lisa Coleman the lady who in 1980 used to live with him do his laundry with hers and make him sandwiches, Brown Mark was on stage with him having garbage thrown at them, David Z -brother of Bobby Z who was drumming 4 him sing 94 East years who said I could devote my whole life career to this man whose wife was also a part of the camp, Wendy Melvoin who people observed he had a big brother little sister relationship with who made him smile and look alright in the eys of others, Dr Fink who was there since the beginning going to the gym together (when they all used to ride bikes nude around Minni -symbolism) Sheila E who he started a flirty friendship with since 1980 and her brother Juan Escovedo, her highschool friend Miko Weaver and other Bay area friends in her band, Eric Leeds brother of Prince tour manager Alan Leeds since 1981/82 Jerome Benton the last remnant of the Time since 1981 Jill JOnes David Coleman brother of Lisa Coleman Jonathon Melvoin brother of Susannah & Wendy Melvoin engineers like Coke Johnson & Susan Rogers... I could go on with the connections. So when Prince explained it in 1999 of thos years being a community. Understand all the benefits of having community, we can understand what Prince was so happy about in 1986

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It's not surprsing that during the LotusFlow3r period onward into the 3rd Eye Girls years Prince used a lot of symbolism and imagery from the Parade era

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Reply #21 posted 05/28/16 7:41am

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A lot of orgers, and that includes me, think that Prince was in his prime in 1986. There was a topic on this recently.

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Reply #22 posted 05/28/16 7:47am

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Susannah Melvoin was very cute back then. She was arguably the prettiest girl he's been with.Susannah Melvoin

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Reply #23 posted 05/28/16 9:41am

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Being in his 20s? razz

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Reply #24 posted 05/28/16 9:47am

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I think we are overanalyzing...Life just gets serious, heavy, more distractions, people, obligations, etc for all of is..Including Prince.I don't think it had to do with the girlfriend, Purple Rain etc...as someone said..He was in his 20s...it's probably just as simple as that.

He was 'new' to alot of people so maybe tabloids, etc weren't trying to knock him down yet. He didn't realize his 'art' was not really his art. As life goes on, he just became more insulated..Alot of us do that as we get older. Not that you mean to..You just want your 'peace' sometimes but it does not mean you are not jovial, etc behind the scence.

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Reply #25 posted 05/28/16 9:53am

toshi

ReddishBrownOne said:

FunkiestOne said:

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Yeah but he was banging hot chicks all the time, so unless she was especially amazing, that doesn't explain it.

There are hot chicks, and there are beautiful women. Susannah is the latter.

Agreed. Who do you think is prettier though, Susannah or Wendy?

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Reply #26 posted 05/28/16 10:17am

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toshi said:

ReddishBrownOne said:

FunkiestOne said: There are hot chicks, and there are beautiful women. Susannah is the latter.

Agreed. Who do you think is prettier though, Susannah or Wendy?

Definitely Susannah. Look at her, she is on the left, the picture is probably from the Anotherloverholenyohead video. She was da bomb.

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Reply #27 posted 05/28/16 10:27am

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pyramidseye said:



toshi said:




ReddishBrownOne said:


FunkiestOne said: There are hot chicks, and there are beautiful women. Susannah is the latter.


Agreed. Who do you think is prettier though, Susannah or Wendy?



Definitely Susannah. Look at her, she is on the left, the picture is probably from the Anotherloverholenyohead video. She was da bomb.



I think both Susannah and Wendy were incredibly beautiful. They looked absolutely stunning on the longer Girls & Boys video as I recall.
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Reply #28 posted 05/28/16 11:11am

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toshi said:

ReddishBrownOne said:

FunkiestOne said: There are hot chicks, and there are beautiful women. Susannah is the latter.

Agreed. Who do you think is prettier though, Susannah or Wendy?

falloff One can't be prettier than the other; they're identical twins.

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Reply #29 posted 05/28/16 11:23am

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vandeluca said:

I think we are overanalyzing...Life just gets serious, heavy, more distractions, people, obligations, etc for all of is..Including Prince.I don't think it had to do with the girlfriend, Purple Rain etc...as someone said..He was in his 20s...it's probably just as simple as that.

He was 'new' to alot of people so maybe tabloids, etc weren't trying to knock him down yet. He didn't realize his 'art' was not really his art. As life goes on, he just became more insulated..Alot of us do that as we get older. Not that you mean to..You just want your 'peace' sometimes but it does not mean you are not jovial, etc behind the scence.

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Agree with you. And I just have to say that I'm tired of all the focus on women in Prince's life as being the reason why he was happy/sad/distracted/distanced/etc... A person with that kind of talent isn't as easily distracted from his primary focus as many of us are. I don't think any of the women he was involved with caused any lasting effects on his psyche, his primary focus wasn't there, it was on his art. His music.

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