independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Wed 19th Feb 2020 8:24pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Did WB have bigger plans for BATMAN LP? If so, What Happened?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 5 12345>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 05/22/16 6:15pm

itsjustaroundt
hecorner

Did WB have bigger plans for BATMAN LP? If so, What Happened?

I busted out Batman Lp today.... I just love this album... The Future , Electric Chair, Lemon Crush (I know people hate that one), Scandalous and Batdance are some of my all time favorite P songs.

When the album came out, I remember the hype being huge and it was selling really well. I remember an article in Billboard saying that Warners was planning at least 4 singles and that the album had legs past Batdance..

But then what happened? Did the hype for the Batman movie just fade out and the album just followed suit?

or did Prince piss off Warners again..

or did everyone do what they needed to do but it just didnt set the world on fire like they thought?

I mean, I know it sold 2 million.. but I remember thinking it would sell A LOT more...

Batdance did great.. but then Partyman just kind of fizzled out and nothing really ever re-charged it.

And I guess there were technically 4 singles with Arms of Orion for pop and Scandalous for RnB...

Does anyone know - were there planned singles that never happened?

What happened behind the scenes??

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 05/22/16 6:25pm

suomynona

avatar

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 05/22/16 6:29pm

airth

avatar

It was well promoted in the UK. We got four singles: Batdance, Partyman, The Arms of Orion and The Future over the space of a year. Scandalous was available as an import. The film had come and gone, so I'm not sure what else Warners could have done. Prince must have been itching to move onto Graffiti Bridge, with Thieves in the Temple coming out just two months after The Future.


  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 05/22/16 6:32pm

Cloreen

avatar

.

What I remember is this:

.

1. Huge excitement and anticipation when the news broke that Prince would be writing songs for this new and exciting Batman film.

.

2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.

.

Bottom line is this: when the film actually came out and played, everyone loved it. Big hit. But the Prince songs were deemed so incompatible that the album seemed to just disappear.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 05/22/16 6:33pm

laurarichardso
n

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

I busted out Batman Lp today.... I just love this album... The Future , Electric Chair, Lemon Crush (I know people hate that one), Scandalous and Batdance are some of my all time favorite P songs.



When the album came out, I remember the hype being huge and it was selling really well. I remember an article in Billboard saying that Warners was planning at least 4 singles and that the album had legs past Batdance..



But then what happened? Did the hype for the Batman movie just fade out and the album just followed suit?


or did Prince piss off Warners again..



or did everyone do what they needed to do but it just didnt set the world on fire like they thought?



I mean, I know it sold 2 million.. but I remember thinking it would sell A LOT more...



Batdance did great.. but then Partyman just kind of fizzled out and nothing really ever re-charged it.



And I guess there were technically 4 singles with Arms of Orion for pop and Scandalous for RnB...



Does anyone know - were there planned singles that never happened?


What happened behind the scenes??



--- Tim Burton who hated that pop songs were attached to his movie.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 05/22/16 6:37pm

TwiliteKid

avatar

Cloreen said:

.



2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.


.




Oh really? Where were these laughfests reported as taking place? And can you name even one of the "many" comedians?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 05/22/16 6:48pm

endiadj

Cloreen said:

.


What I remember is this:


.


1. Huge excitement and anticipation when the news broke that Prince would be writing songs for this new and exciting Batman film.


.


2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.


.


Bottom line is this: when the film actually came out and played, everyone loved it. Big hit. But the Prince songs were deemed so incompatible that the album seemed to just disappear.



i thought the songs fit fine. this was not a dark batman. this was lighter tone.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 05/22/16 6:49pm

SoulAlive

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

Batdance did great.. but then Partyman just kind of fizzled out and nothing really ever re-charged it.

And I guess there were technically 4 singles with Arms of Orion for pop and Scandalous for RnB...

Does anyone know - were there planned singles that never happened?

What happened behind the scenes??

I think "The Future" and "Trust" should have been the singles after "Partyman".It seems like the album's momentum began to stall when "The Arms Of Orion" and "Scandalous" were released as singles.But maybe it didn't matter.The album had already reached double platinum status by that point.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 05/22/16 6:55pm

10000Degrees

Cloreen said:

.


What I remember is this:


.


1. Huge excitement and anticipation when the news broke that Prince would be writing songs for this new and exciting Batman film.


.


2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.


.


Bottom line is this: when the film actually came out and played, everyone loved it. Big hit. But the Prince songs were deemed so incompatible that the album seemed to just disappear.




None of this is true!!! What's the point of making things up?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 05/22/16 7:02pm

SoulAlive

I was disappointed with how the director used the songs.Only two songs can be heard clearly in the movie confused I was like "wtf?!" Prince delivered all these great new songs and the filmmakers didn't even know what to with 'em!

Cloreen said:

Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 05/22/16 7:03pm

Cloreen

avatar

endiadj said:

i thought the songs fit fine. this was not a dark batman. this was lighter tone.

.

What!?! Not a dark BATMAN???

.

OK, compared to the Heath Ledger Joker and those Chris Nolan Batman films, yeah, the Tim Burton Batman does not appear dark. But that is looking at it from a 2016 perspective. Go back to 1989 and all we had was Adam West and Burt Ward and Cesar Romero and all that goofy WHAM! SPLAT!!! stuff...and Tim Burton's film was a new DARK version of Batman. It was seen as a really dark look at the Dark Knight. And the Prince songs -- these 1980s synth songs -- did not fit.

.

Watch the darn movie. The albums songs are really conveniently left out of the film. No one involved in the film was happy with what Prince came up with. Aside from "Partyman" were the album songs really front and center?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 05/22/16 7:04pm

Goddess4Real

avatar

Electric Chair is my jam music

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 05/22/16 7:08pm

suomynona

avatar

SoulAlive said:

I was disappointed with how the director used the songs.Only two songs can be heard clearly in the movie confused I was like "wtf?!" Prince delivered all these great new songs and the filmmakers didn't even know what to with 'em!

Cloreen said:

Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.

Haha. It was a Batman movie, not a Prince movie. Can you imagine just inserting ANY songs out of nowhere in "The Dark Knight Rises"? Comedy!

Whether it was one song or a hundred, the songs were out of place. I keep the record separate from the movie.
https://youtu.be/9qHAOY7C1go?t=2m31s falloff

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 05/22/16 7:09pm

Cloreen

avatar

SoulAlive said:

Prince delivered all these great new songs and the filmmakers didn't even know what to with 'em!

.

Prince delivered tunes that did not fit the film at all. That is why the director had no choice but to not use them.

.

To this day I still listen to that album and say, "What the hell do these songs have to do with the look, feel, tone, atmosphere of that film?" Gotham City in that film was a decrepit Gothic locale...and Prince gives us modern synths and glossy clean songs.

.

Yes, you can like the album. I do. But the songs as a soundtrack to a film are a complete failure. Tell me exactly where "Batdance" would fit in that film?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 05/22/16 7:09pm

endiadj

Cloreen said:



endiadj said:


i thought the songs fit fine. this was not a dark batman. this was lighter tone.

.


What!?! Not a dark BATMAN???


.


OK, compared to the Heath Ledger Joker and those Chris Nolan Batman films, yeah, the Tim Burton Batman does not appear dark. But that is looking at it from a 2016 perspective. Go back to 1989 and all we had was Adam West and Burt Ward and Cesar Romero and all that goofy WHAM! SPLAT!!! stuff...and Tim Burton's film was a new DARK version of Batman. It was seen as a really dark look at the Dark Knight. And the Prince songs -- these 1980s synth songs -- did not fit.


.


Watch the darn movie. The albums songs are really conveniently left out of the film. No one involved in the film was happy with what Prince came up with. Aside from "Partyman" were the album songs really front and center?



well, it wasn't dark to me. lol but compared to the tv series of course it was more serious.

the album was a success.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 05/22/16 7:13pm

RiotPaisley

Maybe the Prince soundtrack is what brightens the movie and makes it a hell of a lot of fun.

I love that movie and I love the soundtrack.

Lemon Crush is one of my favorite Prince songs. Also like Trust. Watch out with me...

To me when I see the old school yellow Batman Logo on a something it's a Prince something. I enjoyed waiting in line to ride the Batman at 6Flags because they
Played The soundtrack. The Batdance video. I loved his Gemini spin.
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 05/22/16 7:22pm

Cloreen

avatar

endiadj said:

. the album was a success.

.

Were you around then? Let me tell you, anything that had anything to do with that BATMAN film was a success. You put that BAT symbol on a Frisbee and the darn thing sold five million units. BATMAN beach towels, BATMAN toys...anything BATMAN was successful. Even a BATMAN soundtrack album with out of place funky songs was a success.

.

Yes, the Prince album was a monetary success. That doesn't mean it was good for the film. If it were, the songs would have been used in the film! Burton used one and kept two or three as background party music. That's all he could do with what Prince presented him.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 05/22/16 7:24pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

I think it was Prince who had bigger plans for the Batmam LP, that's why there is a Batman movie soundtrack and a Prince Batman movie soundtrack.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 05/22/16 7:39pm

DarlingKris

Goddess4Real said:

Electric Chair is my jam music

I love that song too

Forever In My Life, forever in my heart. I love you Prince Rogers Nelson heart
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 05/22/16 7:44pm

Aerogram

avatar

Cloreen said:

.

What I remember is this:

.

1. Huge excitement and anticipation when the news broke that Prince would be writing songs for this new and exciting Batman film.

.

2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.

.

Bottom line is this: when the film actually came out and played, everyone loved it. Big hit. But the Prince songs were deemed so incompatible that the album seemed to just disappear.

There were no such punchlines. Batdance was a huge hit, Partyman was great and there were three to four other songs released betweem The Future, The Arms of Orion, Scandalous and Electric Chair. It was a good year for Prince.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 05/22/16 7:47pm

Iamtheorg

avatar

Does anyone notice Cloreen has a specific way of posting?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 05/22/16 7:55pm

IstenSzek

avatar

Iamtheorg said:

Does anyone notice Cloreen has a specific way of posting?


smile

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 05/22/16 8:00pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

Cloreen said:

.

What I remember is this:

.

1. Huge excitement and anticipation when the news broke that Prince would be writing songs for this new and exciting Batman film.

.

2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.

.

Bottom line is this: when the film actually came out and played, everyone loved it. Big hit. But the Prince songs were deemed so incompatible that the album seemed to just disappear.

Don't know what theater you were in, but folks were having a good time when I went to see it.

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 05/22/16 8:54pm

itsjustaroundt
hecorner

Goddess4Real said:

Electric Chair is my jam music

me 2

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 05/22/16 8:55pm

suomynona

avatar

Cloreen said:

endiadj said:

. the album was a success.

.

Were you around then? Let me tell you, anything that had anything to do with that BATMAN film was a success. You put that BAT symbol on a Frisbee and the darn thing sold five million units. BATMAN beach towels, BATMAN toys...anything BATMAN was successful. Even a BATMAN soundtrack album with out of place funky songs was a success.

.

Yes, the Prince album was a monetary success. That doesn't mean it was good for the film. If it were, the songs would have been used in the film! Burton used one and kept two or three as background party music. That's all he could do with what Prince presented him.


They had Batman cereal. I ate so many boxes of it, that I got a free t-shirt.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 05/22/16 8:56pm

suomynona

avatar

IstenSzek said:

Iamtheorg said:

Does anyone notice Cloreen has a specific way of posting?


smile


The only one that uses "huge" more often is Tronald Dump.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 05/22/16 9:15pm

sro100

avatar

Iamtheorg said:

Does anyone notice Cloreen has a specific way of posting?

It's called trolling. "We can have fun just trolling..."

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 05/22/16 9:16pm

sro100

avatar

Cloreen said:

.

What I remember is this:

.

1. Huge excitement and anticipation when the news broke that Prince would be writing songs for this new and exciting Batman film.

.

2. Huge laughter and disappointment when we heard some of those songs in the movie. Everyone was like what the hell are these songs doing in this film? Like putting Chet Atkins songs in a movie about Roman gladiators. Yes, those Prince songs in BATMAN became the punch lines to many comedians' acts. "....that fits as well as those Prince songs in BATMAN!" was a popular line.

.

Bottom line is this: when the film actually came out and played, everyone loved it. Big hit. But the Prince songs were deemed so incompatible that the album seemed to just disappear.

As others have stated: Name ONE, just ONE, comedian who used that???

You're very wonderful at constant trolling.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 05/22/16 9:17pm

delirious26

avatar

He should have put Dance With The devil on the soundtrack.... it was darker and fit the movie fairly well. I agree that most of the songs did not fit the tone of the movie. It's also one of my favorite albums ever regardless. I love it anyway, but I never really connected Batman with Prince's Batman soundtrack...

How'm I gonna fill this empty room...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 05/22/16 9:17pm

sro100

avatar

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

I busted out Batman Lp today.... I just love this album... The Future , Electric Chair, Lemon Crush (I know people hate that one), Scandalous and Batdance are some of my all time favorite P songs.

When the album came out, I remember the hype being huge and it was selling really well. I remember an article in Billboard saying that Warners was planning at least 4 singles and that the album had legs past Batdance..

But then what happened? Did the hype for the Batman movie just fade out and the album just followed suit?

or did Prince piss off Warners again..

or did everyone do what they needed to do but it just didnt set the world on fire like they thought?

I mean, I know it sold 2 million.. but I remember thinking it would sell A LOT more...

Batdance did great.. but then Partyman just kind of fizzled out and nothing really ever re-charged it.

And I guess there were technically 4 singles with Arms of Orion for pop and Scandalous for RnB...

Does anyone know - were there planned singles that never happened?

What happened behind the scenes??

The answer is momentum. Partyman just wasn't that big of a hit.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 5 12345>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Did WB have bigger plans for BATMAN LP? If so, What Happened?