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Reply #840 posted 07/19/16 1:24pm

laytonian

muleFunk said:

One of the things that leaked from the autopsy was "dangerously low red blood cell count".

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No. That's NOT from the autopsy.

It's from one of those tabloids that also claimed he weighed only 88 pounds and his fingers were all black.

If anything, it was that tabloid report that might have pushed him over the final edge (if you believe the suicide theory).

Think about it.

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Reply #841 posted 07/19/16 1:28pm

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cloveringold85 said:

zoso1978 said:

Is this true?!

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Another Powerful Painkiller Found in Prince's System: U-47700

Beth McDonough
Updated: 07/18/2016 10:24 PM
Created: 07/18/2016 10:14 PM

We've learned from a source close to the Prince death investigation says another powerful drug was found in his system.

Although it was a fentanyl overdose that killed Prince April 21, the medical examiner said it was part of a deadly chemical cocktail.

And Monday, a source close to the investigation tells me U47700 was part of the mixture. The potent painkiller is a synthetic opioid, eight times stronger than morphine.

And, it took more time and more testing to detect.

"You may have to send it out to a more sophisticated lab that actually is looking for these sorts of drugs," said Dr. Cody Wiberg with the Minnesota Board of Pharmacy.

Investigative sources told reporter Beth McDonough that Prince may have thought he was taking a legitimate painkiller, like hydrocodone or fentanyl, that unknowingly also had U-47700 in it.

The pills often look just like other medications. Plus, Dr. Wiberg says U47700 can be resistent to the life-saving antidote Narcan.

Sources say when Princes plane made an emergency landing in Illinois less than a week before his death, paramedics gave him not one but two Narcan shots,

"You might have to administer multiple doses to try to reverse the effects," said Wiberg.

Because U-47700 is not considered a controlled substance by state or federal agents, it's not regulated. The Drug Enforcement Administrations says it tends to be produced overseas in China or Eastern Europe. It's widely available, easily accessible and affordable, about $40 online.

Dr. Wiberg says the drug is on his radar, because it can cause sedation to the point a person stops breathing, "people that use synthetic drugs are playing Russian Roulette, that's because another problem with these drugs is you simply don't know what you get."

Prince was known to have chronic hip pain. We've reported he was being treated for an addiction to painkillers.

As for U-47700, several states have moved to ban the drug. That means, anyone who possesses or sells it, would be subject to criminal penalties.

MORE:

http://kstp.com/news/prin...d/4204272/

Zoso: Wow, very interesting information you found here. I hope the Chanhassen police are investigating the doctor's who gave Prince these medications. You are right, Prince could have "unknowingly" took more dosage than he thought he was. To even think about this is so heartbreaking. I blame Prince's doctor's because they failed him, miserably. They should have seen to it that Prince was under a doctor's supervision and he was getting the "proper" help and treatment. This should have never happened.

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Read the article (and then Google U-47700). We had a long convo about this until it was removed. NO DOCTOR would prescribe this stuff. It's not a prescription drug.

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Reply #842 posted 07/19/16 3:25pm

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I tried to keep away from thinking about the cause of death but today read about the U drug on the org. So I googled it too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...ive_u4770/

The last comment mentions bluelight (some kind of forum for controlled drugs), the substance and the artist formerly known as prince. I am by NO MEANS suggesting anything. But the coinsidence is a bit spooky.
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Reply #843 posted 07/19/16 4:46pm

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Firebird said:

I tried to keep away from thinking about the cause of death but today read about the U drug on the org. So I googled it too. https://www.reddit.com/r/...ive_u4770/ The last comment mentions bluelight (some kind of forum for controlled drugs), the substance and the artist formerly known as prince. I am by NO MEANS suggesting anything. But the coinsidence is a bit spooky. [Edited 7/19/16 15:25pm]

That is odd. Wow. Maybe just a screen name? I had no clue this kind of stuff even existed (that type of forum).

Nope. Just no. What are the odds?

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Reply #844 posted 07/19/16 4:53pm

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KRTREE said:

The terminal illness thing gives me at least a little resignation to Gods will versus any other scenario. I'd like to add seems P had some serious conversations with old friends those last couple of weeks. One that has kept me wondering ever since was the one with Dez. I don't remember the interview but it's online. Dez talked at length about his memories and then when the interviewer asked about his last conversation with P. which I believe he said was around four days prior to his passing. He got all stiff and said he would take to his grave. HUN? There are many ways to say is was a confidential conversation without making it sound so dramatic. Whatever it was just made me wonder more.

That reaction didn't lead me to believe they were exchanging smoothie recipes.


I think it's important to mention that Dez also did say this in that interview about his conversation with Prince: "There was no indication to me that there were any health problems at all." Here's the interview and this statement starts at about minute 2:11: https://www.youtube.com/w...T__V1dxgOI


Edit: Here's the full interview with Dez part 1 and part 2. He also mentions that Prince seemed healthy and focused:

https://www.youtube.com/w...pQZ_izbdcc

https://www.youtube.com/w...llK51GhXOE

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Reply #845 posted 07/19/16 5:04pm

leftcoast

Firebird said:

I tried to keep away from thinking about the cause of death but today read about the U drug on the org. So I googled it too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...ive_u4770/

The last comment mentions bluelight (some kind of forum for controlled drugs), the substance and the artist formerly known as prince. I am by NO MEANS suggesting anything. But the coinsidence is a bit spooky.
[Edited 7/19/16 15:25pm]


The information on this site is really disturbing. The method that is suggested to administer U4770 - yikes.
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Reply #846 posted 07/19/16 5:47pm

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leftcoast said:

Firebird said:
I tried to keep away from thinking about the cause of death but today read about the U drug on the org. So I googled it too. https://www.reddit.com/r/...ive_u4770/ The last comment mentions bluelight (some kind of forum for controlled drugs), the substance and the artist formerly known as prince. I am by NO MEANS suggesting anything. But the coinsidence is a bit spooky. [Edited 7/19/16 15:25pm]
The information on this site is really disturbing. The method that is suggested to administer U4770 - yikes.

I saw that too and that it disturbing as well. I hope he wasnt that stupid to put that out there, but you never know. The Feds would be all over that by now more than likely....I read somewhere his laptop was taken. Perhaps that's why there has been no news on the death investigation, if he himself was the cause. I notice on one of the threads in reddit that someone mentions breakthrough hip pain and asking their doctor for fentanyl or dilaudid, another about chronic pain. I have had experience with both addicts and pain med users....both categories looked high, sounded f'd up and couldn't hide it. But where it true, it would explain why no one saw drugs, but I don't think one could function using this drug at least to the level that he did. I still don't think he was using recreationally and it sounds like the combination of drugs killed him. More will be revealed more than likely. I wonder why other media has not picked this story line up.

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Reply #847 posted 07/19/16 6:03pm

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"Wait a few days before you waste any prayers."

This has been bugging me ever since I first heard it. Three months later, it's still bugging me.

Personally, I don't care how he died. I just want the truth, so that I can digest it and put it in it's proper place. So I can try to learn how to live without Prince.

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Reply #848 posted 07/19/16 6:34pm

laytonian

AA1slot said:

leftcoast said:

Firebird said: The information on this site is really disturbing. The method that is suggested to administer U4770 - yikes.

I saw that too and that it disturbing as well. I hope he wasnt that stupid to put that out there, but you never know. The Feds would be all over that by now more than likely....I read somewhere his laptop was taken. Perhaps that's why there has been no news on the death investigation, if he himself was the cause. I notice on one of the threads in reddit that someone mentions breakthrough hip pain and asking their doctor for fentanyl or dilaudid, another about chronic pain. I have had experience with both addicts and pain med users....both categories looked high, sounded f'd up and couldn't hide it. But where it true, it would explain why no one saw drugs, but I don't think one could function using this drug at least to the level that he did. I still don't think he was using recreationally and it sounds like the combination of drugs killed him. More will be revealed more than likely. I wonder why other media has not picked this story line up.

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That second search was pretty widespread inside PP. He had more than one computer plus there'd be phone records, paperwork, etc. They'd e looking for stashes of *anything*, including inside The Vault, where no one else really never went.

I just hope they didn't turn everything upside down and make a mess sad

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Reply #849 posted 07/19/16 6:36pm

laytonian

KnightPhantom said:

"Wait a few days before you waste any prayers."

This has been bugging me ever since I first heard it. Three months later, it's still bugging me.

Personally, I don't care how he died. I just want the truth, so that I can digest it and put it in it's proper place. So I can try to learn how to live without Prince.

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I've read two reports where it was like "Next time you see something in the media, wait a few days until you waste your prayers."

Even the phrase "waste any prayers" seems to mean that he wasn't planning on going anywhere. Otherwise, wouldn't he have said "say any prayers"?

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Reply #850 posted 07/19/16 6:49pm

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laytonian said:

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I've read two reports where it was like "Next time you see something in the media, wait a few days until you waste your prayers."

Even the phrase "waste any prayers" seems to mean that he wasn't planning on going anywhere. Otherwise, wouldn't he have said "say any prayers"?

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I may have the verbage off on the quote, sorry.

I think he knew something. Exactly what, we may never know.

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Reply #851 posted 07/20/16 3:29am

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leftcoast said:

Firebird said:

I tried to keep away from thinking about the cause of death but today read about the U drug on the org. So I googled it too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...ive_u4770/

The last comment mentions bluelight (some kind of forum for controlled drugs), the substance and the artist formerly known as prince. I am by NO MEANS suggesting anything. But the coinsidence is a bit spooky.
[Edited 7/19/16 15:25pm]


The information on this site is really disturbing. The method that is suggested to administer U4770 - yikes.


VERY disturbing...And who is this person saying this bout P, as if they were close to him??..Or is it outright slander? I still havent seen any other news source reporting this about P and this drug. Not even TMZ...
Seriously, wtf? That comment was posted after he passed....
In total bad taste if its not true...
Im gonna err on the opposite side of BULLSHIT
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Reply #852 posted 07/20/16 5:10am

1Sasha


I think other media outlets are not running this article for two reasons: 1. they ran with the AIDS story and look where that ended up and 2. they can't confirm it. Usually, they need two sources to confirm. That is the way it has been - does this reporter have two sources? I also went to the reddit site and read that: drugs never did anything for me, and I have no idea, after reading this piece, why anyone would want to use this stuff. Especially the "recommended" way. Do I think P posted there? No.

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Reply #853 posted 07/20/16 11:48am

laytonian

1Sasha said:


I think other media outlets are not running this article for two reasons: 1. they ran with the AIDS story and look where that ended up and 2. they can't confirm it. Usually, they need two sources to confirm. That is the way it has been - does this reporter have two sources? I also went to the reddit site and read that: drugs never did anything for me, and I have no idea, after reading this piece, why anyone would want to use this stuff. Especially the "recommended" way. Do I think P posted there? No.

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I re-read that Reddit and think it's the guy's Beagle's name. smile

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