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Thread started 11/05/15 8:35am

SoftSkarlettLo
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Appreciation for Valentina the song

"Valentina" is a song off Prince's 2009 album LotusFlow3r.

This song has been growing onto me for a while now, and now I can safely say it's one of my favourite post-2000 P songs. smile

It's groovy, funky, soulful, poppy and jazzy. The drum beats sound like a sample of the drums from "The Beautiful Ones".

Plus the message of this song is unusual - it's basically Prince "talking" to the then-toddler child of a Mexican actress (can't remember the name right now :-/)

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Reply #1 posted 11/05/15 8:39am

nosajd

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I believe it's Salma Hayek

Love this song!

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Reply #2 posted 11/05/15 8:54am

kmint

Unlistenable for me.

Soooo creepy.

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Reply #3 posted 11/05/15 9:49am

TraSoul82

Yeah... The 'late night feedings' line is kinda... Yeah. He could have sent that song in an email. But I guess since the song was address to a baby...

I mean it's catchy... I'm just glad I could reach the latch.
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Reply #4 posted 11/05/15 11:23am

herb4

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Love it. I like the MPLSound album too, generally speaking.

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Reply #5 posted 11/05/15 11:29am

BobGeorge909

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The guitar and percussion work at the end are astounding...adore it.
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Reply #6 posted 11/05/15 12:34pm

breakdown2k14

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Always loved this song
There's Joy in repetition
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Reply #7 posted 11/05/15 12:37pm

VelvetKittyKat

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No.
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Reply #8 posted 11/05/15 12:56pm

Genesia

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VelvetKittyKat said:

No.


+1

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Reply #9 posted 11/05/15 1:10pm

RJOrion

i always liked this joint...the whole MPLSound lp...drums sound like 1984 all over this album

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Reply #10 posted 11/05/15 2:20pm

dodger

TraSoul82 said:

Yeah... The 'late night feedings' line is kinda... Yeah. He could have sent that song in an email. But I guess since the song was address to a baby...

I mean it's catchy... I'm just glad I could reach the latch.


biggrin exactly, it's catchy and musically I like it but the lyrics are a bit wrong to say the least
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Reply #11 posted 11/05/15 2:47pm

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It´s a very underrated musical gem , I absolutely love the slow, lazy , pounding beat and the Santana-esque guitar solo in it is one of my favorites of the past decade but I wish he´d release it again with completely different lyrics because it seems that many fans find them either a bit creepy or too personal, or both. Not many people can relate to a song that is dedicated to and about Salma Hayek´s daughter Valentina. It will probably age badly and I´m not sure how one day Valentina is going to feel about the lyrics but they are indeed highly unusual. wink

The vocal delivery reminds me a bit of Lil Wayne, there´s just something about the cadence that evokes a Lil Wayne image in my head though of course Prince does NOT sound like him .

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In my opinion, this is one of those songs of the past decade that would greatly benefit from being rewritten. I feel the same way about songs like Lion of Judah or Gold Standard....love the music but can´t really get into the lyrics. But cool to see him constantly come up with new beats and melodies after so many years. I´d like to know what exactly those who don´t like this song dislike about it. Is it the lyrics? His singing/talking/rapping ?

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" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"




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Reply #12 posted 11/05/15 6:56pm

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I see what people are saying about the lyrics.

But, its not like the dude actually sat down and had this conversation with the little tit feeder. Being a single male nearing his forties, I've eencountered similar situations. U see a MILF, and if in the mood for a moment of fantasy, this is a scam Mario that may quickly play out in your mind. Ure looking for an 'in' and that plays along with the jealousy cat for this little toddler has their mits on what you desire. It also highlits the overlap of the venn diagram involving a life necessity and sexuality.

It's all just some playful fantasy on the fly. I get no notion of some kind of serious game plan here. Not to far from the notion when a wife, and mother of three, takes off her robe and the words that come out of fathers mouth are, "ohh Mama!". Many people role play with the concept of mother vs. woman.

I feel that if people would take the lyrics a touch less literal, it would lighten the song up a bit and it might feel more playful than creepy.


This is all for nought though. This post will automatically turn me into a pervert and Kenner PD will be knocking on my door to put me on the sex offender registry.



" If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes, ow!"
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Reply #13 posted 11/05/15 10:54pm

dodger

BobGeorge909 said:

I see what people are saying about the lyrics.

But, its not like the dude actually sat down and had this conversation with the little tit feeder. Being a single male nearing his forties, I've eencountered similar situations. U see a MILF, and if in the mood for a moment of fantasy, this is a scam Mario that may quickly play out in your mind. Ure looking for an 'in' and that plays along with the jealousy cat for this little toddler has their mits on what you desire. It also highlits the overlap of the venn diagram involving a life necessity and sexuality.

It's all just some playful fantasy on the fly. I get no notion of some kind of serious game plan here. Not to far from the notion when a wife, and mother of three, takes off her robe and the words that come out of fathers mouth are, "ohh Mama!". Many people role play with the concept of mother vs. woman.

I feel that if people would take the lyrics a touch less literal, it would lighten the song up a bit and it might feel more playful than creepy.


This is all for nought though. This post will automatically turn me into a pervert and Kenner PD will be knocking on my door to put me on the sex offender registry.



" If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes, ow!"


lol stop digging that hole Bob
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Reply #14 posted 11/05/15 10:55pm

dodger

BobGeorge909 said:

I see what people are saying about the lyrics.

But, its not like the dude actually sat down and had this conversation with the little tit feeder. Being a single male nearing his forties, I've eencountered similar situations. U see a MILF, and if in the mood for a moment of fantasy, this is a scam Mario that may quickly play out in your mind. Ure looking for an 'in' and that plays along with the jealousy cat for this little toddler has their mits on what you desire. It also highlits the overlap of the venn diagram involving a life necessity and sexuality.

It's all just some playful fantasy on the fly. I get no notion of some kind of serious game plan here. Not to far from the notion when a wife, and mother of three, takes off her robe and the words that come out of fathers mouth are, "ohh Mama!". Many people role play with the concept of mother vs. woman.

I feel that if people would take the lyrics a touch less literal, it would lighten the song up a bit and it might feel more playful than creepy.


This is all for nought though. This post will automatically turn me into a pervert and Kenner PD will be knocking on my door to put me on the sex offender registry.



" If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes, ow!"


lol stop digging that hole Bob
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Reply #15 posted 11/05/15 10:55pm

dodger

BobGeorge909 said:

I see what people are saying about the lyrics.

But, its not like the dude actually sat down and had this conversation with the little tit feeder. Being a single male nearing his forties, I've eencountered similar situations. U see a MILF, and if in the mood for a moment of fantasy, this is a scam Mario that may quickly play out in your mind. Ure looking for an 'in' and that plays along with the jealousy cat for this little toddler has their mits on what you desire. It also highlits the overlap of the venn diagram involving a life necessity and sexuality.

It's all just some playful fantasy on the fly. I get no notion of some kind of serious game plan here. Not to far from the notion when a wife, and mother of three, takes off her robe and the words that come out of fathers mouth are, "ohh Mama!". Many people role play with the concept of mother vs. woman.

I feel that if people would take the lyrics a touch less literal, it would lighten the song up a bit and it might feel more playful than creepy.


This is all for nought though. This post will automatically turn me into a pervert and Kenner PD will be knocking on my door to put me on the sex offender registry.



" If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes, ow!"


lol stop digging that hole Bob
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Reply #16 posted 11/05/15 11:44pm

BobGeorge909

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dodger said:

BobGeorge909 said:

I see what people are saying about the lyrics.

But, its not like the dude actually sat down and had this conversation with the little tit feeder. Being a single male nearing his forties, I've eencountered similar situations. U see a MILF, and if in the mood for a moment of fantasy, this is a scam Mario that may quickly play out in your mind. Ure looking for an 'in' and that plays along with the jealousy cat for this little toddler has their mits on what you desire. It also highlits the overlap of the venn diagram involving a life necessity and sexuality.

It's all just some playful fantasy on the fly. I get no notion of some kind of serious game plan here. Not to far from the notion when a wife, and mother of three, takes off her robe and the words that come out of fathers mouth are, "ohh Mama!". Many people role play with the concept of mother vs. woman.

I feel that if people would take the lyrics a touch less literal, it would lighten the song up a bit and it might feel more playful than creepy.


This is all for nought though. This post will automatically turn me into a pervert and Kenner PD will be knocking on my door to put me on the sex offender registry.



" If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes, ow!"


lol stop digging that hole Bob

I getcha



But the triple post ain't necessary... mad

lol
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Reply #17 posted 11/06/15 1:17am

dodger

BobGeorge909 said:

dodger said:



lol stop digging that hole Bob

I getcha



But the triple post ain't necessary... mad

lol
[Edited 11/5/15 23:44pm]


lol shit, don't know what happened there
Sorry x 3
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Reply #18 posted 11/06/15 2:04am

TheEnglishGent

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dodger said:

BobGeorge909 said:
I getcha But the triple post ain't necessary... mad lol [Edited 11/5/15 23:44pm]
lol shit, don't know what happened there Sorry x 3

How does that even happen? Sometimes I write two different posts quickly and the site tells me I'm posting too fast.

As for the song, I love it, I always have. Love most of MPLSound apart from Box O Chocolates.

RIP sad
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Reply #19 posted 11/06/15 2:40am

thedance

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Apart from the first 2 songs and the very last,

I like MPLsOUND... it's a good album, I mean 6 good songs on 1 disc... that's not bad for a Prince-album.... imo...... cool

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Reply #20 posted 11/06/15 4:07am

PurpleMedley12
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Hell no. Pure cringe worthy garbage with lyrics that are embarrassing coming from a man in his 50s. barf
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Reply #21 posted 11/06/15 5:15am

iZsaZsa

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Listening...
What?
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Reply #22 posted 11/06/15 5:24am

iZsaZsa

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iZsaZsa said:

Listening...

I like it. And because Salma's husband didn't sock Prince in the jaw, I love it.
What?
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Reply #23 posted 11/06/15 5:15pm

kmint

PurpleMedley122 said:

Hell no. Pure cringe worthy garbage with lyrics that are embarrassing coming from a man in his 50s. barf

Here, here!!
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Reply #24 posted 11/06/15 6:37pm

1contessa

Frankly, I think it was pretty disrespectful of Prince to make that song about a married woman and her baby. It's a wonder her husband didn't kick his little butt!

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Reply #25 posted 11/07/15 4:25am

irreverence

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bored

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Reply #26 posted 11/07/15 8:44am

TKO

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cloud9

1contessa said:

Frankly, I think it was pretty disrespectful of Prince to make that song about a married woman and her baby. It's a wonder her husband didn't kick his little butt!

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Reply #27 posted 11/07/15 8:51am

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RJOrion said:

i always liked this joint...the whole MPLSound lp...drums sound like 1984 all over this album

Yup..same here. This album seems to get a lot of hate around here sad

Liv 4 Luv
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Reply #28 posted 11/07/15 9:05am

djfine

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The groove on this track is awesome and his production sounds 3D.

Lyrically it's totally inappropriate, but it sounds like it's all meant with a smirk and a wink.

Laugh out line for me is always: "Running down a fonky hall!"

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Reply #29 posted 11/07/15 2:33pm

lezama

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Is it ok if I cringe and still enjoy it? smile

Change it one more time..
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