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feeluupp

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TOP 10 Lowest Selling Prince Albums

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

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Reply #1 posted 12/31/14 6:47pm

nigel1013

feeluupp said:

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

The music industry has changed. Too many people download instead of purchasing music. Record sales does not equate to quality. As long as Prince still produces quality music, I don't care how well his albums sell. Too many people on this site worry about popularity.

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Reply #2 posted 12/31/14 7:00pm

kenkamken

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I bought every one of those
"So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..."
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Reply #3 posted 12/31/14 7:01pm

thedoorkeeper

Source of figures please!
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Reply #4 posted 12/31/14 7:38pm

7thday

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I have every one except N.E.W.S. and Ultimate Prince.

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Reply #5 posted 12/31/14 9:21pm

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I´m not surprsied about any of these, except for Ultimate and AOA.

Ultimate is really great and i wish he did more of this 12"collections.

AOA is his best in years, Clouds was a cool single, but well, he´s 55 now. Ain´t no selling at 55.

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Reply #6 posted 12/31/14 10:29pm

Adorecream

feeluupp said:

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

Not that fair to compare when only one album sold a million in 2014. Physical sales of music are hard to get in this age of digital music, streaming and illegal downloads. I am sure when you add the downloads, itunes sales and illegal bootleg downloads, AOA must be approaching a million.

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Explanations for low figures

1. Crappy album with very limited release at concerts and NPGMC etc. do you ever remember it in a wrekkas stow

2. Its been out three months and is the lesser of the two

3. As above, too new in the post physical sales period.

4. Again poorly promted by Warners, Prince had his own product Rave and 1999 New master at same time. weak album, 1999 possibly nadir of Prince to his fans and public.

5. Again major cock up with NPG distribution and limited store sales belatedly. Plus its 4 or 5 CD's costs money to buy.

6. Very limited release, and the million copues given away were not counted.

7. Limited release again and a crappy overrall album, many fans refused to buy it as they do not appreciate preaching and dogma in his music.

8. Released under a cloud, little promotion kiss off to Warners, Prince busy hyping Emancipation.

9. Just a crap album, the fact it sold this many is a revelation. Possibly lowest genuinely deserved sale. The fact it sold 400k speaks volumes on his quality.

10. Again poorly promoted and Prince had a good selling album of his own out, plus it was one disk of previously released hits we all had ad nauseaum.

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Basically all the others went gold or more says how good he is. Everyone has stink sales, I mean how many copies of the new Michael Jackson album have sold? - Fuck all thats how many, I saw the deluxe 2 disc version with DVD for $5.99 and still refused to buy it.

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Prince has been releasing albums since the 1970s and the fact he can still chart new ones with no promotion speaks volumes on his durability, compare that to recent artists like Bieber who has disappeared and the average rapper or boyband who does not last beyond 3 albums at most. I am sorry Feeluup I like most of your threads, but this is mean spirited. I mean how many albums have you sold?

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #7 posted 12/31/14 10:30pm

undergroundFUN
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I have bought all these albums. I am about to rebuy some of them after losing quite a bit of my collection. I wish his whole catalog was available to purchase online.
Love41Another 💜
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Reply #8 posted 01/01/15 1:07am

mynameisnotsus
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Rave In2?
One Nite Alone piano?
ONA Live box set?
Indigo Nights?

Would be surprised if any of these sold much more than NEWS
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Reply #9 posted 01/01/15 3:33am

feeluupp

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mynameisnotsusan said:

Rave In2? One Nite Alone piano? ONA Live box set? Indigo Nights? Would be surprised if any of these sold much more than NEWS

No RIAA figures on those. None of them cracked the Billboard Top 200.

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Reply #10 posted 01/01/15 3:52am

warning2all

I can't believe that "One Nite Alone Live" sold more than 500,000 units--based on price, availability, and imterest.

What is the source of these numbers?
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Reply #11 posted 01/01/15 4:42am

Aerogram

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feeluupp said:

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

Some great albums in there, and the collapse of album sales, which are hitting an all time low in 2014, needs to be factored. There are less than 5 million albums being sold weekly in the US, and legions of acts are not reaching the 100,000 first week mark, including big names that play the promotional game to the max. The AOA figure is actually decent for an album that rode mostly on his reputation and hints at what may have been if he had actually promoted the records the normal way with videos and tv interviews left and right.

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Reply #12 posted 01/01/15 5:17am

feeluupp

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warning2all said:

I can't believe that "One Nite Alone Live" sold more than 500,000 units--based on price, availability, and imterest. What is the source of these numbers?

It sure did not sell 500,000.

It didn't even crack the TOP 200 when it was released. There are not even any RIAA figures for ONA Live.

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Reply #13 posted 01/01/15 10:42am

Milty2

Adorecream said:

feeluupp said:

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

Not that fair to compare when only one album sold a million in 2014. Physical sales of music are hard to get in this age of digital music, streaming and illegal downloads. I am sure when you add the downloads, itunes sales and illegal bootleg downloads, AOA must be approaching a million.

.

Explanations for low figures

1. Crappy album with very limited release at concerts and NPGMC etc. do you ever remember it in a wrekkas stow

2. Its been out three months and is the lesser of the two

3. As above, too new in the post physical sales period.

4. Again poorly promted by Warners, Prince had his own product Rave and 1999 New master at same time. weak album, 1999 possibly nadir of Prince to his fans and public.

5. Again major cock up with NPG distribution and limited store sales belatedly. Plus its 4 or 5 CD's costs money to buy.

6. Very limited release, and the million copues given away were not counted.

7. Limited release again and a crappy overrall album, many fans refused to buy it as they do not appreciate preaching and dogma in his music.

8. Released under a cloud, little promotion kiss off to Warners, Prince busy hyping Emancipation.

9. Just a crap album, the fact it sold this many is a revelation. Possibly lowest genuinely deserved sale. The fact it sold 400k speaks volumes on his quality.

10. Again poorly promoted and Prince had a good selling album of his own out, plus it was one disk of previously released hits we all had ad nauseaum.

.

Basically all the others went gold or more says how good he is. Everyone has stink sales, I mean how many copies of the new Michael Jackson album have sold? - Fuck all thats how many, I saw the deluxe 2 disc version with DVD for $5.99 and still refused to buy it.

.

Prince has been releasing albums since the 1970s and the fact he can still chart new ones with no promotion speaks volumes on his durability, compare that to recent artists like Bieber who has disappeared and the average rapper or boyband who does not last beyond 3 albums at most. I am sorry Feeluup I like most of your threads, but this is mean spirited. I mean how many albums have you sold?

wow. how positive.

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Reply #14 posted 01/02/15 1:02am

RODSERLING

Adorecream said:

feeluupp said:

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

Not that fair to compare when only one album sold a million in 2014. Physical sales of music are hard to get in this age of digital music, streaming and illegal downloads. I am sure when you add the downloads, itunes sales and illegal bootleg downloads, AOA must be approaching a million.

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You're misleading people here, in fact more than 30 albums sold more than one million in 2014.

http://www.mediatraffic.d...s-2014.htm And this list is only based on time on the global top 40. In fact RAM of DAFT PUNK sold more than a million this year

It's a silly idea to count illegal bootlegs.

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Reply #15 posted 01/02/15 1:12am

fnksoul

Who really cares though? As long as the fans are listening to it what does it matter to us? biggrin

The industry has changed its not a sales based market these days, if it was, do you think AOA and PE would have gone straight to Spotify the day they were released for millions to stream for free? Main source of income for labels and artists is Touring it will never be sales based any more.




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Reply #16 posted 01/02/15 1:17am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

TOP 5 Lowest Selling Prince Albums:

1. N.E.W.S -30,000

2. Plectrum Electrum- 70,000

3. Art Official Age- 175,000

4. The Vault- 265,000

5. Crystal Ball- 277,000

6. Planet Earth- 300,000

7. The Rainbow Children- 320,000

8. Chaos & Disorder- 360,000

9. New Power Soul- 435,000

10. Ultimate Prince- 500,000

7. RAINBOW CHILDREN is reported to have sales of 520.000 according to NPGMC (there was even advertising on french television for the album in 2003 !)

8. ULTIMATE sold about 300 in the US, and about 350 k in the UK. So it's most likely sold about one million worldwide.

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Reply #17 posted 01/02/15 1:22am

RODSERLING

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Who really cares though? As long as the fans are listening to it what does it matter to us? biggrin

The industry has changed its not a sales based market these days, if it was, do you think AOA and PE would have gone straight to Spotify the day they were released for millions to stream for free? Main source of income for labels and artists is Touring it will never be sales based any more.




it's a topic about sales, if you don't bother why are you posting on it ?eek

Who cares about the numerous topic here "what is your favourite top ten" etc ? There is one almost everyday !

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Reply #18 posted 01/02/15 2:43am

Adorecream

Yes I agree, trying to defend this moronic topic, who cares how many albums he has sold. As long as we the fans can buy them and he makes them, who gives a fuck.

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Feeluup along with King Sausage have been responsible for a range of negative topics and inane Top 10 ones in the past month and we are just sick of them. Dude if you think he can't sell albums, and he sucks, why even be a fan honestly. Yes I answer and compose critical threads too, but I also praise him, lusten to him and try to get something out of the music. Plus there is serial hater Rodserling or whatever his name is, who sprinkles his gloom troll dust over everything, seriously all of you get a life and stop being so depressing.

.

I mean if Prince had released 50 albums, and all had got mumber 1 beating Bieber, Swift and every other squeaky voice pop artist, shit hopper, ra and sleaze singer or nu metal group with 20 million of each album sold, you would still be whinging. The numbers are very low and are obviously the lowest they could find of each, they still have not announced their source, so I suspect this baiting bullshit.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #19 posted 01/02/15 3:10am

RODSERLING

Adorecream said:

Yes I agree, trying to defend this moronic topic, who cares how many albums he has sold. As long as we the fans can buy them and he makes them, who gives a fuck.

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Feeluup along with King Sausage have been responsible for a range of negative topics and inane Top 10 ones in the past month and we are just sick of them. Dude if you think he can't sell albums, and he sucks, why even be a fan honestly. Yes I answer and compose critical threads too, but I also praise him, lusten to him and try to get something out of the music. Plus there is serial hater Rodserling or whatever his name is, who sprinkles his gloom troll dust over everything, seriously all of you get a life and stop being so depressing.

.

I mean if Prince had released 50 albums, and all had got mumber 1 beating Bieber, Swift and every other squeaky voice pop artist, shit hopper, ra and sleaze singer or nu metal group with 20 million of each album sold, you would still be whinging. The numbers are very low and are obviously the lowest they could find of each, they still have not announced their source, so I suspect this baiting bullshit.

I'm pretty sure everybody on the org absolutely love Prince.

There should be room for everyone here : those who cares about sales and the others. You have no right to decide what topic should be closed, just because a topic doesn't interest you in the first place. There are way more ininteresting topic here than this one. tehre is even a topic where a guy ask everybody to learn him how to listen EMANCIPATION ! And some guys give him their ideal tracklist eek Yes, i'm not joking.

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Reply #20 posted 01/02/15 3:30am

fnksoul

RODSERLING said:

fnksoul said:

Who really cares though? As long as the fans are listening to it what does it matter to us? biggrin

The industry has changed its not a sales based market these days, if it was, do you think AOA and PE would have gone straight to Spotify the day they were released for millions to stream for free? Main source of income for labels and artists is Touring it will never be sales based any more.




it's a topic about sales, if you don't bother why are you posting on it ?eek

Who cares about the numerous topic here "what is your favourite top ten" etc ? There is one almost everyday !



But what difference does it make to you as a fan? Does it stop you from listening to his music? No it doesnt, a Poor album might stop you from listening to it yeah but sales wouldnt.


He could release his best new album of his career next week but it still wouldnt sell any more than AOA has done for the reason that the industry isnt Sales focused in 2015 people stream more, download etc...

You dont need to go out and buy a Cassette, CD or Vinyl anymore to listen to music so why would most people buy it when others can listen for free on Spotify? Even without a subsription.

I know because aside from AOA and PE of which I bought the download and Vinyls, any other artists i've streamed for the past 12 months. Im not fussed about owning a copy of anyone else's album just being a casual fan, why should I when any album I like is at my finger tips for £10 a month all the new albums hit spotify on the Tuesday each week and its simple and easy. And that wil be the mentality of any casual Prince fans.

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Reply #21 posted 01/02/15 5:38am

RODSERLING

I'm sorry, but your post is completely full of nonsense, intolerance and...don't you have anything else to do in your life ?

I don't see the point between quality and sales. But what I don't get, is why some people are interested with tastes from others they don't even know "in the real world". Please, explain that to me, why are there so many "what are your favourite top ten" ? I don't understand that, but because i'm open-minded, I can conceive it, that other people have different hobbies than me when it's concerning Prince. Ifrankly don't care if you love the albums of Prince I love, I prefer in a forum, focusing on facts.

There are even topic about prince's hair, girlfriend, etc. What does it make to you if Prince fucked this girl or another ? Or if Prince wears a wig or not ? Or if he really slapped Sinead O CONNOR in the face ? What does it make to you when Prince posted on twitter of facebook for telling bullshits that had no sense at all ?

Please do what you want, and let others people do what they want. FIXURLIFEUP

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Reply #22 posted 01/02/15 5:40am

feeluupp

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Adorecream said:

Yes I agree, trying to defend this moronic topic, who cares how many albums he has sold. As long as we the fans can buy them and he makes them, who gives a fuck.

.

Feeluup along with King Sausage have been responsible for a range of negative topics and inane Top 10 ones in the past month and we are just sick of them. Dude if you think he can't sell albums, and he sucks, why even be a fan honestly. Yes I answer and compose critical threads too, but I also praise him, lusten to him and try to get something out of the music. Plus there is serial hater Rodserling or whatever his name is, who sprinkles his gloom troll dust over everything, seriously all of you get a life and stop being so depressing.

.

I mean if Prince had released 50 albums, and all had got mumber 1 beating Bieber, Swift and every other squeaky voice pop artist, shit hopper, ra and sleaze singer or nu metal group with 20 million of each album sold, you would still be whinging. The numbers are very low and are obviously the lowest they could find of each, they still have not announced their source, so I suspect this baiting bullshit.

I created one "negative" topic about Prince being obsolete, and losing his commercial following.

If you check the other threads I have created they have garnered some of the most discussion.

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Reply #23 posted 01/02/15 5:41am

feeluupp

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Adorecream said:

Yes I agree, trying to defend this moronic topic, who cares how many albums he has sold. As long as we the fans can buy them and he makes them, who gives a fuck.

.

Feeluup along with King Sausage have been responsible for a range of negative topics and inane Top 10 ones in the past month and we are just sick of them. Dude if you think he can't sell albums, and he sucks, why even be a fan honestly. Yes I answer and compose critical threads too, but I also praise him, lusten to him and try to get something out of the music. Plus there is serial hater Rodserling or whatever his name is, who sprinkles his gloom troll dust over everything, seriously all of you get a life and stop being so depressing.

.

I mean if Prince had released 50 albums, and all had got mumber 1 beating Bieber, Swift and every other squeaky voice pop artist, shit hopper, ra and sleaze singer or nu metal group with 20 million of each album sold, you would still be whinging. The numbers are very low and are obviously the lowest they could find of each, they still have not announced their source, so I suspect this baiting bullshit.

And aren't you the one who created 5 Reasons Why Prince is Losing His Commercial Clout... lol

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Reply #24 posted 01/02/15 6:21am

fnksoul

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry, but your post is completely full of nonsense, intolerance and...don't you have anything else to do in your life ?

I don't see the point between quality and sales. But what I don't get, is why some people are interested with tastes from others they don't even know "in the real world". Please, explain that to me, why are there so many "what are your favourite top ten" ? I don't understand that, but because i'm open-minded, I can conceive it, that other people have different hobbies than me when it's concerning Prince. Ifrankly don't care if you love the albums of Prince I love, I prefer in a forum, focusing on facts.

There are even topic about prince's hair, girlfriend, etc. What does it make to you if Prince fucked this girl or another ? Or if Prince wears a wig or not ? Or if he really slapped Sinead O CONNOR in the face ? What does it make to you when Prince posted on twitter of facebook for telling bullshits that had no sense at all ?

Please do what you want, and let others people do what they want. FIXURLIFEUP

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How is my post full of Nonsense? Its a cast iron Fact that album sales have declined year on year even for the currect big artists its 2015 not the 1980's, . Music is readily avaliable for free through various outlets if people can avoid spending these days they will do, people have less and less disposable income. There is a story in the telegraph today about UK sales being down because of Spotify eating into iTunes sales.


For an example about labels, Pharrell 'Happy' one of the most played tracks on Spotify took away less than $3000 in royalties from them, if Labels were focused on Sales why would they openly put the music out there for what is essentially free? They dont have to sign off on music being used on streaming services but its promotion for Tours where money is made now.

If lables are not worried about it, why should the general public be?

Each to their own though I guess.


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Reply #25 posted 01/02/15 6:36am

RODSERLING

fnksoul said:

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry, but your post is completely full of nonsense, intolerance and...don't you have anything else to do in your life ?

I don't see the point between quality and sales. But what I don't get, is why some people are interested with tastes from others they don't even know "in the real world". Please, explain that to me, why are there so many "what are your favourite top ten" ? I don't understand that, but because i'm open-minded, I can conceive it, that other people have different hobbies than me when it's concerning Prince. Ifrankly don't care if you love the albums of Prince I love, I prefer in a forum, focusing on facts.

There are even topic about prince's hair, girlfriend, etc. What does it make to you if Prince fucked this girl or another ? Or if Prince wears a wig or not ? Or if he really slapped Sinead O CONNOR in the face ? What does it make to you when Prince posted on twitter of facebook for telling bullshits that had no sense at all ?

Please do what you want, and let others people do what they want. FIXURLIFEUP

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[Edited 1/2/15 5:47am]



How is my post full of Nonsense? Its a cast iron Fact that album sales have declined year on year even for the currect big artists its 2015 not the 1980's, . Music is readily avaliable for free through various outlets if people can avoid spending these days they will do, people have less and less disposable income. There is a story in the telegraph today about UK sales being down because of Spotify eating into iTunes sales.


For an example about labels, Pharrell 'Happy' one of the most played tracks on Spotify took away less than $3000 in royalties from them, if Labels were focused on Sales why would they openly put the music out there for what is essentially free? They dont have to sign off on music being used on streaming services but its promotion for Tours where money is made now.

If lables are not worried about it, why should the general public be?

Each to their own though I guess.


Common, The post that I quoted from you didn't talk about the music industry at all !

Ok, sales are decreasing for some, they are increasing for others (singles sales exploded for instance, msuci video sales too)...and ? Why is it forbidden to make such a top ten ?

[Edited 1/2/15 6:36am]

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Reply #26 posted 01/02/15 6:50am

alandail

fnksoul said:

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry, but your post is completely full of nonsense, intolerance and...don't you have anything else to do in your life ?

I don't see the point between quality and sales. But what I don't get, is why some people are interested with tastes from others they don't even know "in the real world". Please, explain that to me, why are there so many "what are your favourite top ten" ? I don't understand that, but because i'm open-minded, I can conceive it, that other people have different hobbies than me when it's concerning Prince. Ifrankly don't care if you love the albums of Prince I love, I prefer in a forum, focusing on facts.

There are even topic about prince's hair, girlfriend, etc. What does it make to you if Prince fucked this girl or another ? Or if Prince wears a wig or not ? Or if he really slapped Sinead O CONNOR in the face ? What does it make to you when Prince posted on twitter of facebook for telling bullshits that had no sense at all ?

Please do what you want, and let others people do what they want. FIXURLIFEUP

[Edited 1/2/15 5:45am]

[Edited 1/2/15 5:47am]



How is my post full of Nonsense? Its a cast iron Fact that album sales have declined year on year even for the currect big artists its 2015 not the 1980's, . Music is readily avaliable for free through various outlets if people can avoid spending these days they will do, people have less and less disposable income. There is a story in the telegraph today about UK sales being down because of Spotify eating into iTunes sales.


For an example about labels, Pharrell 'Happy' one of the most played tracks on Spotify took away less than $3000 in royalties from them, if Labels were focused on Sales why would they openly put the music out there for what is essentially free? They dont have to sign off on music being used on streaming services but its promotion for Tours where money is made now.

If lables are not worried about it, why should the general public be?

Each to their own though I guess.


That's simply no true. Spotify pays 0.7 cents per stream, Happy was streamed 55 million time, that's $385,000 in royalties paid by Spotify for the song Happy.

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Reply #27 posted 01/02/15 7:03am

fnksoul

RODSERLING said:

fnksoul said:



How is my post full of Nonsense? Its a cast iron Fact that album sales have declined year on year even for the currect big artists its 2015 not the 1980's, . Music is readily avaliable for free through various outlets if people can avoid spending these days they will do, people have less and less disposable income. There is a story in the telegraph today about UK sales being down because of Spotify eating into iTunes sales.


For an example about labels, Pharrell 'Happy' one of the most played tracks on Spotify took away less than $3000 in royalties from them, if Labels were focused on Sales why would they openly put the music out there for what is essentially free? They dont have to sign off on music being used on streaming services but its promotion for Tours where money is made now.

If lables are not worried about it, why should the general public be?

Each to their own though I guess.


Common, The post that I quoted from you didn't talk about the music industry at all !

Ok, sales are decreasing for some, they are increasing for others (singles sales exploded for instance, msuci video sales too)...and ? Why is it forbidden to make such a top ten ?

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I didnt say it was forbidden, Meant why should anyone really care how many something didnt sell? You have a clear focus across a few threads about Lack of sales and you back it up with Facts which is good, but it doesnt really mean anything, 100k people might have bought what ever album, but 1 million may have streamed it for free and enjoyed it, which is why there cant really be too much focus on lack of physical sales IMO in this day in age.

It would be intersting if there was any concrete data avaliable on how many times things were streamed

Like I say though each to their own I guess.

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Reply #28 posted 01/02/15 7:13am

fnksoul

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fnksoul said:




For an example about labels, Pharrell 'Happy' one of the most played tracks on Spotify took away less than $3000 in royalties from them, if Labels were focused on Sales why would they openly put the music out there for what is essentially free? They dont have to sign off on music being used on streaming services but its promotion for Tours where money is made now.

If lables are not worried about it, why should the general public be?

Each to their own though I guess.


That's simply no true. Spotify pays 0.7 cents per stream, Happy was streamed 55 million time, that's $385,000 in royalties paid by Spotify for the song Happy.



Apologies, my bad, It was Pandora not Spotify and its the money that Pharell actually saw in Royalties, the rest goes to various other things. But Taylor Swift pulling her stuff from Streaming services could open up the flood gates for things to change in the Industry. If Prince was big right now, I'd imagine he'd have alot to say ont he matter lol

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Reply #29 posted 01/02/15 7:16am

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fnksoul said:

RODSERLING said:

Common, The post that I quoted from you didn't talk about the music industry at all !

Ok, sales are decreasing for some, they are increasing for others (singles sales exploded for instance, msuci video sales too)...and ? Why is it forbidden to make such a top ten ?

[Edited 1/2/15 6:36am]



I didnt say it was forbidden, Meant why should anyone really care how many something didnt sell? You have a clear focus across a few threads about Lack of sales and you back it up with Facts which is good, but it doesnt really mean anything, 100k people might have bought what ever album, but 1 million may have streamed it for free and enjoyed it, which is why there cant really be too much focus on lack of physical sales IMO in this day in age.

It would be intersting if there was any concrete data avaliable on how many times things were streamed

Like I say though each to their own I guess.

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Pirating albums has always existed. it's not new. I don't understand why it should be more convenient now than 20 years ago. I remember when I was 14, I was already buynig CD pirates of Eminem and Daft Punk.

If you could find the number streaming views, make it a top ten, until then actual sales are still what is more accurate now.

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