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Thread started 12/20/14 7:21pm

warewolf95

Can you guys help me get into Emancipation?

Ok, figured I'd call in the big guns and turn to you lovely folks here on the org to help me sort this out.

I've been trying since I got into Prince (almost 5 years ago) to get into Emancipation.

I just can't.

Its the only album I've never been able to listen through and I always end up getting bored near the end of Disc 1 and therefore slag off the remaining two whole discs.

Basically, what are the essential highpoints of the album that I NEED to hear, lol. I love big albums but listening to Emancipation is like drowning sometimes......

Or, if you were to edit the album, what would your tracklist be? Any edits to existing tracks, etc?

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Reply #1 posted 12/20/14 7:48pm

chrisslope9

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First, Disc One was by far the weakest of the three discs. I personally could have done without it. Disc Two is pretty solid start to finish and could have stood well on its own. Disc Three contains some great material and some misses. Here are my highlights.

ALL OF DISC 2 - It's awesome.

Disc 3 - My Computer, The Love We Make, Face Down, Style

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Reply #2 posted 12/20/14 8:02pm

warewolf95

chrisslope9 said:

First, Disc One was by far the weakest of the three discs. I personally could have done without it. Disc Two is pretty solid start to finish and could have stood well on its own. Disc Three contains some great material and some misses. Here are my highlights.

ALL OF DISC 2 - It's awesome.

Disc 3 - My Computer, The Love We Make, Face Down, Style

Wow, ok I will take all that into consideration.

The second disc definitely seems like "The Marriage/Mayte Disc" or something and that kind of kept me away from it for a bit cuz I was sick of ballads, lol. I will definitely give it a much needed reevaluation.

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Reply #3 posted 12/20/14 8:07pm

warning2all

Disc 1- "Jam of the Year" to "Betcha By Golly Wow"- Eject CD after this. Don't listen to the rest for its too demoish, and amateur. Its just like " The Phantom Menace" after the initial burst of the opening- "hmmm, I don't think this is very good..."

Disc 2- "Savoir" has the best musicianship of the entire album, and what you expect from Prince. "Friend/Sister/Lover/Mother/Wife" is good too. Most tracks exist here to fill out a 3 hour album ("The Plan") This album settles into a weird mediocre mundane, but oddly listenable malaise. You will have a hard time believing the guy who wrote "When Doves Cry" is the guy singing "Emale".

Disc 3- "Slave" is about a rich, successful multimillionaire complaining about his life. You won't relate. Same with "Face Down". This is a really strange disc. "La La La Means I Love You" on the same disc as "The Human Body" is just nutty! "The Love We Make" is very good.

The parka look/The Oprah episode/the hideous artwork....


Prince said, "This is the album I was born to make". ...Really? This is it??
He actually seems to be in love here, but time has made this one weird kooky album. The 10 best tracks make a superior album to "AOA"- the other 26 make it an oddity. Don't ask people to help you get into " Emancipation"-you don't enjoy it. Listen to your own sensibilities! smile
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Reply #4 posted 12/20/14 8:17pm

FragileUnderto
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Mix these tracks up in any order.. and i would be good to go

Disc 1

  1. "Right Back Here in My Arms" – 4:43
  2. "Somebody's Somebody" – 4:43
  3. "Get Yo Groove On" – 6:31
  4. "White Mansion" – 4:47
  5. "I Can't Make U Love Me" – 6:37
  6. "In This Bed I Scream" – 5:40

Disc 2

  1. "Sex in the Summer" – 5:57
  2. "One Kiss at a Time" – 4:41
  3. "Soul Sanctuary" – 4:41
  4. "Emale" – 3:38
  5. "Joint 2 Joint" – 7:52
  6. "The Holy River" – 6:55
  7. "Saviour" – 5:48
  8. "Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife" – 7:37

Disc 3

  1. "Slave" – 4:51
  2. "Face Down" – 3:17
  3. "Style" – 6:40
  4. "Da, Da, Da" – 5:15
  5. "My Computer" – 4:37
  6. "One of Us" – 5:19
  7. "The Love We Make" – 4:39
  8. "Emancipation" – 4:12
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Reply #5 posted 12/20/14 8:17pm

warewolf95

warning2all said:

Disc 1- "Jam of the Year" to "Betcha By Golly Wow"- Eject CD after this. Don't listen to the rest for its too demoish, and amateur. Its just like " The Phantom Menace" after the initial burst of the opening- "hmmm, I don't think this is very good..." Disc 2- "Savoir" has the best musicianship of the entire album, and what you expect from Prince. "Friend/Sister/Lover/Mother/Wife" is good too. Most tracks exist here to fill out a 3 hour album ("The Plan") This album settles into a weird mediocre mundane, but oddly listenable malaise. You will have a hard time believing the guy who wrote "When Doves Cry" is the guy singing "Emale". Disc 3- "Slave" is about a rich, successful multimillionaire complaining about his life. You won't relate. Same with "Face Down". This is a really strange disc. "La La La Means I Love You" on the same disc as "The Human Body" is just nutty! "The Love We Make" is very good. The parka look/The Oprah episode/the hideous artwork.... Prince said, "This is the album I was born to make". ...Really? This is it?? He actually seems to be in love here, but time has made this one weird kooky album. The 10 best tracks make a superior album to "AOA"- the other 26 make it an oddity. Don't ask people to help you get into " Emancipation"-you don't enjoy it. Listen to your own sensibilities! smile

Lol, thanks for the epic response. smile

AOA is pretty good, so you're telling me there's a better album than that hidden in the mire of this behemoth? Time to get my Indiana Jones fedora on.....

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Reply #6 posted 12/20/14 8:18pm

warewolf95

FragileUndertow said:

Mix these tracks up in any order.. and i would be good to go

Disc 1

  1. "Right Back Here in My Arms" – 4:43
  2. "Somebody's Somebody" – 4:43
  3. "Get Yo Groove On" – 6:31
  4. "White Mansion" – 4:47
  5. "I Can't Make U Love Me" – 6:37
  6. "In This Bed I Scream" – 5:40

Disc 2

  1. "Sex in the Summer" – 5:57
  2. "One Kiss at a Time" – 4:41
  3. "Soul Sanctuary" – 4:41
  4. "Emale" – 3:38
  5. "Joint 2 Joint" – 7:52
  6. "The Holy River" – 6:55
  7. "Saviour" – 5:48
  8. "Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife" – 7:37

Disc 3

  1. "Slave" – 4:51
  2. "Face Down" – 3:17
  3. "Style" – 6:40
  4. "Da, Da, Da" – 5:15
  5. "My Computer" – 4:37
  6. "One of Us" – 5:19
  7. "The Love We Make" – 4:39
  8. "Emancipation" – 4:12

Thanks for a good starting point smile

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Reply #7 posted 12/20/14 8:21pm

donnyenglish

Try these songs. Holy River and The Love We Make are the classic tracks from the set.

Right Back Here In My Arms
White Mansion
I Cant Make You Love ame
In This Bed I scream
Curious Child
Dreaming About You
Joint 2 Joint
Holy River
Savior
Friend Lover, Sister Mother Wife
One of Us
The Love We Make
Emancipation
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/14 8:28pm

EddieC

I don't know that I've ever listened to all three discs straight through. That just seems like a mistake. I always tended toward considering disc two the strongest--kind of heavy on slower songs, but Sex in the Summer breaks it up nicely. The other two seemed more hit and miss; yes, greater range, but the songs didn't seem as completely worked out, and some are barely there. The main thing I'd do is think of it as three separate experiences, and give each one its own separate time to listen to a few times without mixing them up.

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Reply #9 posted 12/20/14 8:41pm

warning2all

Good luck, Indy! Here's my list.

Disc 1:

-Jam of the Year
-Right Back Here in My Arms
-Somebody's Somebody
-Get yo Groove On (the comedy bit isn't funny)
-Betcha By Golly Wow

Disc 2:

-Savoir
-Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife

Disc 3:

-Style (barely)
-Da Da Da
-The Love We Make

To make it a better album, you'd have to resequence it. And if you're Prince, add weird segues about Affirmations with Kirstie Alley.

This album makes me feel a little weird/bored/queasy overall, tho. The reason I ever bought it in 1996, is because its by the guy who made "Parade"
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Reply #10 posted 12/20/14 9:55pm

SoulAlive

"Emale" is my favorite track. music I like dark,hypnotic feel of this song
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Reply #11 posted 12/20/14 10:04pm

FunkiestOne

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I love about 1/2 of Emancipation. So that is all i listen to. Just edit out the tracks you don't like. I think it's one of his best abums of the 90s if you do that.

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Reply #12 posted 12/20/14 10:09pm

lotus4u

warewolf95 said:

FragileUndertow said:

Mix these tracks up in any order.. and i would be good to go

Disc 1

  1. "Right Back Here in My Arms" – 4:43
  2. "Somebody's Somebody" – 4:43
  3. "Get Yo Groove On" – 6:31
  4. "White Mansion" – 4:47
  5. "I Can't Make U Love Me" – 6:37
  6. "In This Bed I Scream" – 5:40

Disc 2

  1. "Sex in the Summer" – 5:57
  2. "One Kiss at a Time" – 4:41
  3. "Soul Sanctuary" – 4:41
  4. "Emale" – 3:38
  5. "Joint 2 Joint" – 7:52
  6. "The Holy River" – 6:55
  7. "Saviour" – 5:48
  8. "Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife" – 7:37

Disc 3

  1. "Slave" – 4:51
  2. "Face Down" – 3:17
  3. "Style" – 6:40
  4. "Da, Da, Da" – 5:15
  5. "My Computer" – 4:37
  6. "One of Us" – 5:19
  7. "The Love We Make" – 4:39
  8. "Emancipation" – 4:12

Thanks for a good starting point smile

That is a great play list. music

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Reply #13 posted 12/21/14 1:22am

FragileUnderto
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lotus4u said:

warewolf95 said:

Thanks for a good starting point smile

That is a great play list. music



I know some of the songs i passed over other may like or vise versa
But i practice what i preached, I put that play list on shuffle tonight music
I have yet felt any need to skip tracks cloud9


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And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #14 posted 12/21/14 2:28am

Pentacle

It's fairly easy:

1. Jam Of The Year

2. Right Back Here In My Arms

3. Somebody's Somebody (Derek Hughes vocal)

4. Get Yo Groove On/Six (live, Emancipation concert)

5. White Mansion

6. Mr. Happy

7. Sex In The Summer

8. The Plan

9. Dreamin' About U

10. Face Down

11. Sleep Around

12. One Of Us (live, Emancipation concert)

13. Emancipation

bonus:

Emale

My Computer

any of the Face Down loooong live versions


and of course the two great tracks on Crystal Ball: She Gave Her Angels & Goodbye

I always add 2morrow to The Gold Experience

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #15 posted 12/21/14 2:33am

SuperSoulFight
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Try not to look at it as one album! Forget about CD 1, wait until you're in the right mood for some slow songs and put on CD 2. It contains some of the most beautiful love songs he ever made. Find your own favourites. CD 3 contains both the best and the worst music of Emancipation. I never liked Slave New World and Human Body, but maybe you will. The Love We Make and My Computer are excellent. There is a lot to digest on this one, take your time. It took me a year to get into it.
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Reply #16 posted 12/21/14 4:56am

SanMartin

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Holy River is my favourite song on Emancipation, but I listen to Joint 2 Joint and Sleep Around when I'm in a party mood.
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Reply #17 posted 12/21/14 5:15am

JoeTyler

Emancipation is a fantastic 14 songs / 75 min mid '90s modern-R&B-funk-adult/cont ballads album

just pick your favorites

tinkerbell
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Reply #18 posted 12/21/14 5:31am

RaspBerryGirlF
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Yeah, the thing is with Emancipation is that everybody thinks it's too long, and everybody agrees it should have been a double or single album, but nobody can agree on what they would put on it, we all seem to have different favorites. TBH I would say that the only real way to get into the album is to listen to all of it and discover the tracks you like. Maybe one disc a day so you don't get burnt out on all the crap. Alternatively just screw it and listen to something better, but there's some salvageable stuff among ask the rubbish.
Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
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Reply #19 posted 12/21/14 7:08am

djThunderfunk

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Consider the 3 discs as separate entities. Listen to and absorb each disc individually as if the others didn't exist. When you've got a sense of what you like/don't like about a disc, move on to the next. wink

Censorship is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is doing it or how noble their motivation.
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Reply #20 posted 12/21/14 8:38am

novabrkr

Just put the CDs in the CD player one after another and listen to them.

I'm not trying to be a smartass. It's the only way you're going to get into it. The material on those discs isn't that different from what's on an album like 3121, because it's mostly pop with a few curveballs. Listening to that stuff for three hours really shouldn't be a comparable task to listening to something like really dissonant free jazz.

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Reply #21 posted 12/21/14 8:45am

warewolf95

Any opinions on the track "Sarah"? Isn't that Emancipation era?

I love that track smile

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Reply #22 posted 12/21/14 8:47am

warewolf95

FragileUndertow said:

lotus4u said:

That is a great play list. music



I know some of the songs i passed over other may like or vise versa
But i practice what i preached, I put that play list on shuffle tonight music
I have yet felt any need to skip tracks cloud9


Yea, apparently I'm the only person that enjoys Jam Of The Year, lol, so I get what you're saying.

Prince's biggest issue sometimes is quality control. He's like an author that doesn't read his book before releasing it sometimes. He needs an editor or something, lol

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Reply #23 posted 12/21/14 8:56am

picklemynuts

I spent a year trying to get out of it.

The Love We Make, is probably the stand-out track on the album, but I like the cover versions, too.

[Edited 12/21/14 8:58am]

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Reply #24 posted 12/21/14 9:05am

NouveauDance

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There's a million and one "make a 1 disc version of Emancipation" threads, and all they've ever told us is that there's really no general consensus as to what the best third of the album is.

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Reply #25 posted 12/21/14 10:19am

djThunderfunk

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NouveauDance said:

There's a million and one "make a 1 disc version of Emancipation" threads, and all they've ever told us is that there's really no general consensus as to what the best third of the album is.


yeahthat

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Reply #26 posted 12/21/14 10:57am

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warewolf95 said:

Any opinions on the track "Sarah"? Isn't that Emancipation era?



I love that track smile


That is more rock & roll than anything on Emancipation!
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Reply #27 posted 12/21/14 2:51pm

JoeTyler

NouveauDance said:

There's a million and one "make a 1 disc version of Emancipation" threads, and all they've ever told us is that there's really no general consensus as to what the best third of the album is.

that would be MY version, of course

tinkerbell
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Reply #28 posted 12/21/14 6:47pm

undergroundFUN
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Well my personal favorites are...

1:Somebody's Somebody
2:White Mansion
3:I Can't Make U Love Me (cover)
4:Soul Sanctuary
5:Joint 2 Joint
6:The Holy River
7:Let's Have A Baby
9:Style
10:Sleep Around
11:My Computer
12:The Love We Make
Bonus:Face Down (18&Over mix)
Extra bonus:Goodbye (from Crystal Ball)
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[Edited 12/21/14 18:50pm]
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Reply #29 posted 12/21/14 7:09pm

williamb610

Here are the best songs off of each disc, in my opinion...

Disc 1

Somebody's Somebody(awesome song...one of my favorite Prince songs)

White Mansion

I Can't Make You Love Me

In This Bed I Scream(classic Prince, yet a different type of song, musically, at the same time)

Disc 2

Sex In the Summer(awesome song...)

Emale(love the way he sings this one...different)

Joint 2 Joint(funky...hold onto your wigs)

The Holy River(fave voicing..."There you are, you think you're high...)

Disc 3

Slave

Face Down(funky!)

Style(awesome)

My Computer(wait til you hear the last minute and a half of pure funk insanity on the keyboards)

The Love We Make("All who believe...will be cleansed and purified"--keyboard...awesome)

If you're looking for anything else...maybe 'Sleep Around', and maybe 'One Kiss at a Time'...but only if you're desperate for more.

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