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Reply #60 posted 10/21/14 12:30am

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Oh it's the purple essence account? neutral The account that announces everything 5 minutes after it's announced elsewhere. The account that has never had a legitimate exclusive? That account? Great. Confirmed so.

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Reply #61 posted 10/21/14 7:17am

stillwaiting

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stillwaiting said:

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

Getting people to by 3 cds instead of 2 AND making people pay twice for the same music is not exactly bad business, is it?

Making people who are more than willing to pay for music even consider just copying the music or illegally downloading it is bad business. I'll always pay Prince for his music, but since cd sales are falling off the deep end, giving more bang for the buck is a good business practice. He could release 20 cds with one song each on it if it was good business, but it isn't...bonus tracks and extra material is at least TRYING to care for your fans. Milking them for extra money in a bad economy is bad business.

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Reply #62 posted 10/21/14 7:25am

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stillwaiting said:

paulludvig said:

Getting people to by 3 cds instead of 2 AND making people pay twice for the same music is not exactly bad business, is it?

Making people who are more than willing to pay for music even consider just copying the music or illegally downloading it is bad business. I'll always pay Prince for his music, but since cd sales are falling off the deep end, giving more bang for the buck is a good business practice. He could release 20 cds with one song each on it if it was good business, but it isn't...bonus tracks and extra material is at least TRYING to care for your fans. Milking them for extra money in a bad economy is bad business.


Ya know what...

In the 80's albums were about 45 min each and were always preceded by singles that would then be on the albums. Those that bought the singles and the albums paid twice for the same song.

Nobody was "making people pay twice for the same music" then, nor are they now.

You are criticizing the length of the albums and the fact that there were singles from the albums before the album's release? I think you just need something to whine about...

wink

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Reply #63 posted 10/21/14 8:43am

treehouse

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?


yeahthat



I want more, more, more and then I want even more of it.

But truth be told, I'll never listen to half this stuff more than once. I've also developed a bad habit of skipping through Prince songs halfway through unless they really capture me. I'd rather he just release a single album of stronger material. That or have him space these out so there's a new record every 3-4 months. Prince probably looks at it like it took him 2-3 years to get all this material released, but really, it's the culmination of 2 years of recording, and he's spitting it out at once.

I'd say he's trying to bury the PR reissue, but all this will be old news by the time that comes out.

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Reply #64 posted 10/21/14 10:38am

Noodled24

djThunderfunk said:


Ya know what...

In the 80's albums were about 45 min each and were always preceded by singles that would then be on the albums. Those that bought the singles and the albums paid twice for the same song.

Nobody was "making people pay twice for the same music" then, nor are they now.

You are criticizing the length of the albums and the fact that there were singles from the albums before the album's release? I think you just need something to whine about...

wink

RE: Album lengths I agree - in the 80s albums were shorter. Nobody cared. However Crystal Ball wasn't an "Album" per se. It was a random collection of outtakes. Those CD's could have been full with no detrimental effect to the overall feel.

RE: Singles - kinda - we used to pay £1.99 for a CD single which would have the A-Side, B-Side and, a few remixes. The price went up and up in the UK from £1.99, to £2.49, £2.99, £3.50... As the technology brought the manufacturing costs down the retail price went up. Then along came P2P and everyone said fuck you to the cost of singles. - The point I'm making however was that when people were buying CD singles, you were getting more than just one song.

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Reply #65 posted 10/21/14 12:01pm

databank

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treehouse said:

djThunderfunk said:


yeahthat



I want more, more, more and then I want even more of it.

But truth be told, I'll never listen to half this stuff more than once. I've also developed a bad habit of skipping through Prince songs halfway through unless they really capture me. I'd rather he just release a single album of stronger material. That or have him space these out so there's a new record every 3-4 months. Prince probably looks at it like it took him 2-3 years to get all this material released, but really, it's the culmination of 2 years of recording, and he's spitting it out at once.

I'd say he's trying to bury the PR reissue, but all this will be old news by the time that comes out.

I feel ya except u forget a little thing: an album of stronger material for whom exactly? Because as u may have noticed it's not like we all agree on what's strong and what's not. If we've had only one album out of PlecEl and AOA who's to tell the lost songs wouldn't be my favorites, or yours... This is why this logic doesn't stand at all in the first place and why more is better.

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Reply #66 posted 10/21/14 12:35pm

stillwaiting

djThunderfunk said:

stillwaiting said:

Making people who are more than willing to pay for music even consider just copying the music or illegally downloading it is bad business. I'll always pay Prince for his music, but since cd sales are falling off the deep end, giving more bang for the buck is a good business practice. He could release 20 cds with one song each on it if it was good business, but it isn't...bonus tracks and extra material is at least TRYING to care for your fans. Milking them for extra money in a bad economy is bad business.


Ya know what...

In the 80's albums were about 45 min each and were always preceded by singles that would then be on the albums. Those that bought the singles and the albums paid twice for the same song.

Nobody was "making people pay twice for the same music" then, nor are they now.

You are criticizing the length of the albums and the fact that there were singles from the albums before the album's release? I think you just need something to whine about...

wink

I'm sure you enjoy your $20 Face Down live tape. Great Value, huh? The $77 Lotus website, great, huh? The 40 minute Crystal Ball discs that you probably got a year after your credit card was charged...

The point is, Prince has been milking fans treating them like dirt, sometimes doing wonderful things like the NPGMC soundchecks, etc...but dropping the ball time after time, and making fans feel like garbage after spending thousands of their hard earned money on him, giving him a nice life...

93 minutes of music? Just make it 70-79, and release a disc of the outtakes for the diehards...

Somebody with Prince's track record on value for music should work harder to please fans...

But he doesn't HAVE to. He could release 50 cds with one song on them...some of you would praise him for that...

I just call it like I see it...one better album between PE and AOA would have sold a little more...not much, but maybe with some INTELLIGENT promotion....not some Silly girl bumbling on on and on about Power Generations, and ignoring Jimi Hendrix, and praising the Love Sex song as "her jam."

It's just a comedy of errors with this guy...

But I love him, and will support him...but I'll be critical, the same way I would be about an uncle that gets too drunk at a party...It's just being honest.

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Reply #67 posted 10/21/14 1:54pm

databank

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stillwaiting said:

djThunderfunk said:


Ya know what...

In the 80's albums were about 45 min each and were always preceded by singles that would then be on the albums. Those that bought the singles and the albums paid twice for the same song.

Nobody was "making people pay twice for the same music" then, nor are they now.

You are criticizing the length of the albums and the fact that there were singles from the albums before the album's release? I think you just need something to whine about...

wink

Before I say anything you are not replying a single word of what Thunderfunk was saying, you're tripping on your own, ignoring his comment and ranting about something else entirely.

I'm sure you enjoy your $20 Face Down live tape. Never even had a chance to purchase it back then, got it later in mp3 from a fellow fan. Great Value, huh? You were not forced to buy it, were you? The $77 Lotus website, great, huh? This was a monstruous scam, I was mad back then and still am! The 40 minute Crystal Ball discs that you probably got a year after your credit card was charged... I bought them the day they were out in a store so all was fine for me. Could it have been longer? Sure. Was I frustrated? Sure, at first, then I came to realize I was listening to those CD's everyday for months and months and in the end my investment was quite profitable. I still think they could and should have been filled as they were comps, but I ain't gonna make a big fuss about it. Anyway we were not talking comps but albums so this belongs to another thread entirely.

The point is, Prince has been milking fans treating them like dirt, yes he has sometimes doing wonderful things like the NPGMC soundchecks, etc... that, too, NPGMC 2001: I had a lot for my money and was so satisified with how I had invested my 100 bucks! but dropping the ball time after time, and making fans feel like garbage after spending thousands of their hard earned money on him, giving him a nice life... He never forced me to buy his shit or keep buying it, and fact is I don't always buy it anymore. I take it you still buy his music even though you feel you been treated like shit, well I'm sorry for ya but it's not his fault that you're still a customer when u could just either not get the music or get it for free through other channels.

93 minutes of music? Just make it 70-79, and release a disc of the outtakes for the diehards... That was not the point of this thread in the first place, it was about regular albums not compilations of outtakes.

Somebody with Prince's track record on value for music should work harder to please fans... He should really show more respect for his fanbase, yes, but once again what kind of sadomasochist people keep buying from a store whose owner treat them like shit and complain it's been like this for 20 years?

But he doesn't HAVE to. He could release 50 cds with one song on them...some of you would praise him for that... IDK about that. When I fell scammed I say so but it only happened once in 2009. I think at this point some people are globally satisfied and some are not, and those who are not cannot stand the fact that some are, so we are like 2 customers of the same store, both buying the stuff, one complaining and one happy and the one complaining is calling the one who's happy a fool for being happy while the other is scratching his head wondering why the unhappy guy is still here in the first place, calling him names on top of it all eek

I just call it like I see it...one better album between PE and AOA would have sold a little more... yeah, the problem is that one better album for you is one worse album for me and vice versa, because I don't see any consensus on what could be an ideal tracklist, + people are complaining about how an album they already bought sells: this is to me a matter of emotional or psychological issues, no more no less, but maybe with some INTELLIGENT promotion....not some Silly girl bumbling on on and on about Power Generations, and ignoring Jimi Hendrix, and praising the Love Sex song as "her jam." Now you've lost me completely, I don't have ANY idea what you're talking about anymore.


It's just a comedy of errors with this guy... and his fans, too many of them having just as many emotional issues as him, if not more.

But I love him, and will support him...but I'll be critical, the same way I would be about an uncle that gets too drunk at a party...It's just being honest. Except it's not being logical. Ask the Vulcans (or Aristotle).

Peace wink

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Reply #68 posted 10/21/14 7:46pm

Blixical

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Romeoblu said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The core problem is crappy songs, and that hasn't been solved. Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good.

1. How is it fact that the songs aren't very good. 2. What is a fact is the majority of people who posted about it on the org enjoy the album. Just admit it. 3. It isn't fact how can it be fact. 4. Provide me with the evidence where it has been universally agreed any song ever written isn't any good.

1. Subjective to an extent. But, many music critics have pointed out that the songs are standard and quite unremarkable despite the strength of the album. In my own personal opinion, I wouldn't say they're crap, but they aren't great.

2. Erm. It's prince.org

3. Erm. ok?

4. This almost sounds like you're having a conversation with yourself. Obviously nobody can do what's being asked. One can only say that Bart's opinions are at one end of the spectrum. A lot of folks aren't impressed by the abulms. That's ok. I like 3 songs from the albulm--that's it. 3. But, the sequencing is his strongest in years. Further to Bart's point (in my own words), the strength of the sequencing doesn't mean the material itself is widely accepted as good.

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Reply #69 posted 10/21/14 7:47pm

Blixical

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NDRU said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The core problem is crappy songs, and that hasn't been solved. Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good.

wow, that is the equivalent of a rave review!

lol

I take it he has strong opinions.

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Reply #70 posted 10/21/14 8:32pm

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stillwaiting said:

I'm sure you enjoy your $20 Face Down live tape. Great Value, huh? The $77 Lotus website, great, huh? The 40 minute Crystal Ball discs that you probably got a year after your credit card was charged...

The point is, Prince has been milking fans treating them like dirt, sometimes doing wonderful things like the NPGMC soundchecks, etc...but dropping the ball time after time, and making fans feel like garbage after spending thousands of their hard earned money on him, giving him a nice life...

93 minutes of music? Just make it 70-79, and release a disc of the outtakes for the diehards...

Somebody with Prince's track record on value for music should work harder to please fans...

But he doesn't HAVE to. He could release 50 cds with one song on them...some of you would praise him for that...

I just call it like I see it...one better album between PE and AOA would have sold a little more...not much, but maybe with some INTELLIGENT promotion....not some Silly girl bumbling on on and on about Power Generations, and ignoring Jimi Hendrix, and praising the Love Sex song as "her jam."

It's just a comedy of errors with this guy...

But I love him, and will support him...but I'll be critical, the same way I would be about an uncle that gets too drunk at a party...It's just being honest.


I think I paid like $5 plus shipping for the NYC Live cassette.

I bought LotusFlower at Target, $11.99 for 3 CDs, pretty good deal!

My copy of Crytal Ball has 50 minutes per CD, don't know of a version with 40 min per disc. That said a compilation of outtakes from Prince SHOULD have been at least 70 mins per disc, but I digress...

Taking the leap that because some of us are satisfied with a few 45 min albums, we would also accept 50 single track CDs is silly and extreme.

I agree that there has been no proper promotion and that the host of the Yahoo special was embarassingly inept, but I was not addressing either of these things. I was responding specifically to complaints about the length of the CDs and complaints about the CDs containing tracks that had previously been released as singles.

cool

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Reply #71 posted 10/21/14 8:40pm

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databank said:

stillwaiting said:

I just call it like I see it...one better album between PE and AOA would have sold a little more... yeah, the problem is that one better album for you is one worse album for me and vice versa, because I don't see any consensus on what could be an ideal tracklist


Yes!!! And this is an important point.

All it takes is to check the threads about slimming Emancipation, (or Lotus/MPLS, or these 2 new ones,) down to a single CD to see that there is NO consensus on what are the good songs to keep and what are the fillers to remove.

Databank's got it right. The more Prince releases, the more each and every one of us can pick from and find the tracks we personally like.

I'd rather have 3 45min CDs that I liked half of than 1 80min CD that I like half of any day.

wink

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Reply #72 posted 10/21/14 10:30pm

Scarfo

Kara said:

Please tell me "Revelation" will be on it. I need that song. cool

There is a good chance Revelation and Xcess Space will both be on the new album. There is a reason why Prince gave the ok for the public to preview those two unreleased songs for that Yahoo event (of the album releases of AOA and EP). Both of those songs sounds like the Prince I grew up on, and loved.

[Edited 10/21/14 22:32pm]

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Reply #73 posted 10/21/14 11:48pm

Rebeljuice

Scarfo said:

Kara said:

Please tell me "Revelation" will be on it. I need that song. cool

There is a good chance Revelation and Xcess Space will both be on the new album. There is a reason why Prince gave the ok for the public to preview those two unreleased songs for that Yahoo event (of the album releases of AOA and EP). Both of those songs sounds like the Prince I grew up on, and loved.

[Edited 10/21/14 22:32pm]

I still think its called The Ex's Face. smile Doesnt sound like the Prince I grew up on though. Doesn't sound like anything P has done before. Which leads me to believe it isnt on an NPG release that may, or may not, get an imminent release. No horns, all electronic. I think this song will either be on a future Prince and Josh release, or will end up in the vault, never to be heard of again.

And I suspect, if there is going to be an NPG release that it will be NPGQ. sad

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Reply #74 posted 10/21/14 11:55pm

IstenSzek

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Rebeljuice said:

Scarfo said:

There is a good chance Revelation and Xcess Space will both be on the new album. There is a reason why Prince gave the ok for the public to preview those two unreleased songs for that Yahoo event (of the album releases of AOA and EP). Both of those songs sounds like the Prince I grew up on, and loved.

[Edited 10/21/14 22:32pm]

I still think its called The Ex's Face. smile Doesnt sound like the Prince I grew up on though. Doesn't sound like anything P has done before. Which leads me to believe it isnt on an NPG release that may, or may not, get an imminent release. No horns, all electronic. I think this song will either be on a future Prince and Josh release, or will end up in the vault, never to be heard of again.

And I suspect, if there is going to be an NPG release that it will be NPGQ. sad

i've been thinking the same thing. they are really different songs. sort of like that acoustic

track with 3EG is another thing entirely too.

/

the ex's face (i think it's called that too) is really different from all the other tracks that are

rumoured to be at the album at this stage (stuff from last year, with horns).

/

"revelation" could be on it though. for some reason it reminds me a lot of "elixir" from the

bria valente album.

/

here's to hoping we'll get both a Prince & The NPG and a NPGQ album. but how on earth he

is planning to release one or both of them with the PR remaster also in the can, will be very

interesting to see.

/

at the moment i'm more excited about new material, purely because prince makes it seem

like he has zero interest in the remaster, and thus probably plans to only release the album

as it is in better soundquality, with no extra material. it also doesn't bode well for any other

remasters in the future. so if it's simply a choice between better sounding old stuff or brand

new stuff, i'd rather have the new.

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Reply #75 posted 10/22/14 1:06am

Rebeljuice

IstenSzek said:

Rebeljuice said:

I still think its called The Ex's Face. smile Doesnt sound like the Prince I grew up on though. Doesn't sound like anything P has done before. Which leads me to believe it isnt on an NPG release that may, or may not, get an imminent release. No horns, all electronic. I think this song will either be on a future Prince and Josh release, or will end up in the vault, never to be heard of again.

And I suspect, if there is going to be an NPG release that it will be NPGQ. sad

i've been thinking the same thing. they are really different songs. sort of like that acoustic

track with 3EG is another thing entirely too.

/

the ex's face (i think it's called that too) is really different from all the other tracks that are

rumoured to be at the album at this stage (stuff from last year, with horns).

/

"revelation" could be on it though. for some reason it reminds me a lot of "elixir" from the

bria valente album.

/

here's to hoping we'll get both a Prince & The NPG and a NPGQ album. but how on earth he

is planning to release one or both of them with the PR remaster also in the can, will be very

interesting to see.

/

at the moment i'm more excited about new material, purely because prince makes it seem

like he has zero interest in the remaster, and thus probably plans to only release the album

as it is in better soundquality, with no extra material. it also doesn't bode well for any other

remasters in the future. so if it's simply a choice between better sounding old stuff or brand

new stuff, i'd rather have the new.

I agree. A remastered PR doesnt really interest me. I would be interested in any extra material, but the album itself sounds fine as it is to my ears. If all we are getting is better sound, then I would much prefer SOTT remastered as that really needs it. PR is mastered ok considering its age. And anyway, mastering by todays standards just means getting it as loud as possible doesnt it? Not neccessarily a good thing.

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Reply #76 posted 10/22/14 2:28am

Scarfo

Rebeljuice said:

Scarfo said:

There is a good chance Revelation and Xcess Space will both be on the new album. There is a reason why Prince gave the ok for the public to preview those two unreleased songs for that Yahoo event (of the album releases of AOA and EP). Both of those songs sounds like the Prince I grew up on, and loved.

[Edited 10/21/14 22:32pm]

I still think its called The Ex's Face. smile Doesnt sound like the Prince I grew up on though. Doesn't sound like anything P has done before. Which leads me to believe it isnt on an NPG release that may, or may not, get an imminent release. No horns, all electronic. I think this song will either be on a future Prince and Josh release, or will end up in the vault, never to be heard of again.

And I suspect, if there is going to be an NPG release that it will be NPGQ. sad

That was my point. Back in the days Prince music sounded like nothing on the radio. It was a hybred of new musical sounds combined into one, creating a competely new sound. That's what I meant by saying "Xcess Face" is like the Prince I've grew up on, because it sounds completely different from other music of it's day. Let's face it, these past couple of years, Prince has been trying to sound like "what's popular" in terms of music, with mediocre results. I stand by my comment, that I feel both unreleased songs will be on this upcoming NPG album....but it's anyone's guess at this point. Now as for the upcoming release of "Purple Rain" Remaster, I'm sure it will also contain extended versions of the songs released during that time period. Now will it contain unreleased tracks? That's up in the air, because we have no idea, and Prince and Warner Bros aren't exactly hinting at what it will contain. I for one, am most looking forward to that, than any new music released by Prince and 3rdEyeGirl.

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Reply #77 posted 10/22/14 3:17am

Rebeljuice

Scarfo said:

Rebeljuice said:

I still think its called The Ex's Face. smile Doesnt sound like the Prince I grew up on though. Doesn't sound like anything P has done before. Which leads me to believe it isnt on an NPG release that may, or may not, get an imminent release. No horns, all electronic. I think this song will either be on a future Prince and Josh release, or will end up in the vault, never to be heard of again.

And I suspect, if there is going to be an NPG release that it will be NPGQ. sad

That was my point. Back in the days Prince music sounded like nothing on the radio. It was a hybred of new musical sounds combined into one, creating a competely new sound. That's what I meant by saying "Xcess Face" is like the Prince I've grew up on, because it sounds completely different from other music of it's day.

[Edited 10/22/14 2:30am]

Yup, I hear ya, and in that context I agree.

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Reply #78 posted 10/22/14 8:40am

jasminejoey

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OperatingThetan said:

I've heard the NPG album is well sequenced and actually now contains a significant amount of new material. It isn't just a compilation of previously released online tracks, but a cohesive album.

Source?

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Reply #79 posted 10/22/14 8:43am

Marco81

jasminejoey said:

OperatingThetan said:

I've heard the NPG album is well sequenced and actually now contains a significant amount of new material. It isn't just a compilation of previously released online tracks, but a cohesive album.

Source?

There are no official sources, just fans posting this info on twitter without mentioning their source. So, nothing real so far.

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Reply #80 posted 10/22/14 8:50am

EmancipationLo
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BartVanHemelen said:

Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good.

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Interesting. How can you state as a "fact" that a song is good or that it is not good? What are the objective criteria for labelling a song "good" or "not good"?

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Reply #81 posted 10/22/14 10:41am

IstenSzek

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Rebeljuice said:

IstenSzek said:

i've been thinking the same thing. they are really different songs. sort of like that acoustic

track with 3EG is another thing entirely too.

/

the ex's face (i think it's called that too) is really different from all the other tracks that are

rumoured to be at the album at this stage (stuff from last year, with horns).

/

"revelation" could be on it though. for some reason it reminds me a lot of "elixir" from the

bria valente album.

/

here's to hoping we'll get both a Prince & The NPG and a NPGQ album. but how on earth he

is planning to release one or both of them with the PR remaster also in the can, will be very

interesting to see.

/

at the moment i'm more excited about new material, purely because prince makes it seem

like he has zero interest in the remaster, and thus probably plans to only release the album

as it is in better soundquality, with no extra material. it also doesn't bode well for any other

remasters in the future. so if it's simply a choice between better sounding old stuff or brand

new stuff, i'd rather have the new.

I agree. A remastered PR doesnt really interest me. I would be interested in any extra material, but the album itself sounds fine as it is to my ears. If all we are getting is better sound, then I would much prefer SOTT remastered as that really needs it. PR is mastered ok considering its age. And anyway, mastering by todays standards just means getting it as loud as possible doesnt it? Not neccessarily a good thing.

exactly! of all the 1978-1988 albums, PR is probably the one that sounds best,
all the others sound worse, to absolutely dire (SOTT).

i might end up buyin most of the remasters, even if they are single discs (and

if they are ever even released) but it's not something i would rush out to buy,

or order online. it would be more like "i've got some money left over, shall I

buy a book or shall I get Dirty Mind remastered?" smile

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Reply #82 posted 10/22/14 3:52pm

stillwaiting

databank said:

stillwaiting said:

Before I say anything you are not replying a single word of what Thunderfunk was saying, you're tripping on your own, ignoring his comment and ranting about something else entirely.

Peace wink

It's quite possible, that I was not really serious about all my points. Still, I am sick of getting cds with well under 80 min of music. It's a dying format, and it might help get some more sales, but it really doesn't matter.

"If U ever lose some1 dear 2 U, Never say the words they're gone....They'll come back."
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Reply #83 posted 10/22/14 8:14pm

treehouse

databank said:

If we've had only one album out of PlecEl and AOA who's to tell the lost songs wouldn't be my favorites, or yours... This is why this logic doesn't stand at all in the first place and why more is better.


Eh? Song selection was a large part of the glue that has made up the industry for years, and all of Prince's biggest records. Might be outtakes we missed but that's still the case even with bulk releases of material...and releasing 2 or 3 records doesn't solve or satisfy our taste differences.

We do represent two different era of fans though, I think. I checked out for periods of the boxsets and mail order period and had to play catch up later.

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Reply #84 posted 10/23/14 1:52am

LIBRA

I hope we get a new CD soon. One with more than 10-12 tracks. Sorry but I feel ripped off when I get only 12 tracks from Prince.

The way soem of you are talking you would cut down Sign O the Times.

I love every song off that album.

I want MORE songs!! We waited so long for his to release more..yet he releases little.

Funny casue he signs with WB and releases two CD's. in one yr.

Personally they both suck. I have been a fan since 1983. I don't want PR2 or Sign 2.

I want the best he can come up with. AOA is not it. neither is 3rdeye.

AOA is the best he has released in 10 yrs but its not HIS best.

This is what happens when an artist has nothing left to say.

No one is there to challenge him.

No one to say..you did this already.

Not a producer.

Just someone to say "no you can do better."

I also want a more mature introspective prince. I know he can talk about sex/love/freedom/whatever... but want a mature price like John lennon in Double Fantasy.

I want him to challange US the listener. He has not done that since Rainbow Children.

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Reply #85 posted 10/23/14 4:29am

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jasminejoey said:

OperatingThetan said:

I've heard the NPG album is well sequenced and actually now contains a significant amount of new material. It isn't just a compilation of previously released online tracks, but a cohesive album.

Source?

That comment actually came from Jester in conversation with Funkenberry. Jester had just came back from Paisley and seems pretty connected and 'favoured'. Songs to be included on the album, including Big City, Shades of Umber and 2 Young 2 Dare have been confirmed in an email from 3RDEYEGIRL to Funkenberry and he's posted them on his twitter account.

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Reply #86 posted 10/23/14 5:19am

databank

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stillwaiting said:

databank said:

It's quite possible, that I was not really serious about all my points. Still, I am sick of getting cds with well under 80 min of music. It's a dying format, and it might help get some more sales, but it really doesn't matter.

Sure doesn't, I'm sure we both have bigger problems than that in our lives lol hug

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Reply #87 posted 10/23/14 5:24am

databank

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treehouse said:

databank said:

If we've had only one album out of PlecEl and AOA who's to tell the lost songs wouldn't be my favorites, or yours... This is why this logic doesn't stand at all in the first place and why more is better.


Eh? Song selection was a large part of the glue that has made up the industry for years, and all of Prince's biggest records. Might be outtakes we missed but that's still the case even with bulk releases of material...and releasing 2 or 3 records doesn't solve or satisfy our taste differences.

We do represent two different era of fans though, I think. I checked out for periods of the boxsets and mail order period and had to play catch up later.

I think my relationship to prince's music is different to many here because I checked in in 89, after the "golden age", so even though at first I became a fan because of the classic albums when I got 'em all (90-91), I really loved them as being already something from the past, and therefore my holy grail was never for prince to "do it again": as years passed I enjoyed his new releases and "my" prince in the end was already a prince said to be on the decline, and I never really felt it that way, though. In terms of a personal experience of excitement, waiting for the next album and buying it on the day of release, it really started for me with D&P and the exciting years for me were the 90's, because I had the enthusiasm of youth and every new record was a new world to dive into.

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Reply #88 posted 10/23/14 6:31am

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stillwaiting said:

databank said:

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

Prince got you to buy them both and you'll buy this next one and the next... and so on. Bad business indeed.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #89 posted 10/23/14 6:45am

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BartVanHemelen said:



OperatingThetan said:



What Prince is trying to do in my opinion, with the recent albums, is to deliver something tight and cohesive that works as a sequential listening experience. He's been accused previously, of including too much filler in his albums, particularly funk jams, etc. and not editing enough. AOA is an incredibly strong and potent journey that I wouldn't want to see diluted for the sake of 'bonus' tracks and padding. I'd quite happily take those songs on some kind of compilation designed for 'fans' though. Same goes for extended versions, jams and other experiments (such as 'Midnight Blues' on 3RDEYETV for example).



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The core problem is crappy songs, and that hasn't been solved. Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good.


They are not good to you? The two disc have received good reviews and good sales despite an awful year for music sales and no promotion.
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