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3rdeyegirl twitter tells funkberry Prince & NPG Official ablum coming, then retweeted by PurpleEssence

Great news! I knew this 3rd album would hit!

[Edited 10/20/14 12:25pm]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #1 posted 10/20/14 10:22am

love2thenines2
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leadline said:

Great news! I knew this 3rd album would hit!

2 Much releases 2 come.....Much Confusion.....there will be no place for PR DELUXE?

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Reply #2 posted 10/20/14 10:22am

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I've heard the NPG album is well sequenced and actually now contains a significant amount of new material. It isn't just a compilation of previously released online tracks, but a cohesive album.

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Reply #3 posted 10/20/14 10:30am

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I'm in snoozeville about PR deluxe.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #4 posted 10/20/14 10:32am

databank

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love2thenines2003 said:

leadline said:

Great news! I knew this 3rd album would hit!

2 Much releases 2 come.....Much Confusion.....there will be no place for PR DELUXE?

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

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Reply #5 posted 10/20/14 10:45am

Noodled24

Really hope this doesn't mean he's going to turn up on SNL and play songs from an album that's never going to be released.

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Reply #6 posted 10/20/14 11:07am

paulludvig

Great news!

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #7 posted 10/20/14 11:15am

stillwaiting

databank said:

love2thenines2003 said:

2 Much releases 2 come.....Much Confusion.....there will be no place for PR DELUXE?

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

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Reply #8 posted 10/20/14 11:23am

ludwig

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databank said:

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

Who said that Warner Bros will distribute the new album?

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Reply #9 posted 10/20/14 11:23am

paulludvig

stillwaiting said:

databank said:

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

Getting people to by 3 cds instead of 2 AND making people pay twice for the same music is not exactly bad business, is it?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #10 posted 10/20/14 11:32am

jaypotton

leadline said:

Great news! I knew this 3rd album would hit!



So I looked on both Twitter accounts and could not see this on either! Am I blind?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #11 posted 10/20/14 11:39am

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ludwig said:

stillwaiting said:

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

Who said that Warner Bros will distribute the new album?

I think the NPG album may be distributed by Kobalt or else have another method of release, because reportedly, Warner Bros were not interested in it.

What Prince is trying to do in my opinion, with the recent albums, is to deliver something tight and cohesive that works as a sequential listening experience. He's been accused previously, of including too much filler in his albums, particularly funk jams, etc. and not editing enough. AOA is an incredibly strong and potent journey that I wouldn't want to see diluted for the sake of 'bonus' tracks and padding. I'd quite happily take those songs on some kind of compilation designed for 'fans' though. Same goes for extended versions, jams and other experiments (such as 'Midnight Blues' on 3RDEYETV for example).

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Reply #12 posted 10/20/14 11:42am

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stillwaiting said:



databank said:




love2thenines2003 said:





2 Much releases 2 come.....Much Confusion.....there will be no place for PR DELUXE?



I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes


There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?



It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...



Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.



Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.


I personally very much enjoy when an album contains the same length of material as a vinyl. Better with short and sweet, than just a bunch of fillers. People are also nowadays too busy to check out a full length album.
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Reply #13 posted 10/20/14 11:44am

databank

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stillwaiting said:

databank said:

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

I agree with CB, as it was a comp of totally random outtakes aimed at fans, they should all 3 have been 80mn, it was frustrating as hell!

.

When it comes to new albums I think the position is somewhat harder to stand, for 3 reasons:

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1/ There's been a huge trend to return to the old 45mn duration after the 1990-2005 craze to do 65 to 80mn albums all the time. I suspect the reason is that artists came to realize that people were more receptive to a good 45mn than to an album that was so long that unless u were totally into it u'd get bored 4 or 5 tracks before it ends. I personally came to realize that I definitely feel more comfy listening to 45 minutes than 75, unless the music is really blowing me away.

.

2/ CD is a format on the decline, at least it's not the leading format anymore and it will keep declining. It's not a matter of opinion or predictions anymore: sales figures are explicit. A digital album can be... er... forever. So basically now albums can quite indifferently be 20 minutes or 4 hours and I believe this is part of the reason why EP's have become such a popular format over the last 5 years. On the other hand, since digital prices are usually based on a 1 song = 99 cents basis, the cost of buying 3 albums or 2 will be quite similar, discouts aside, for the buyer because buying 2x15 songs or 3x10 songs costs the same in the end.

.

3/ More importantly even: albums are works of art. Even if they remain mainly compilation of songs they're usually from a single set of sessions and put together according to a certain logic: there needs to be a certain cohesiveness and a certain pace: artists will decide which songs and in which order with aesthetic preoccupations in mind. From that point of view saying an album (that's not a compilation but a real album) should be 45 minutes to fill CD's is as nonsensical as telling a writer he should write 100 more pages because his novel is too short, or a director to shoot 2 hours of additional scenes because a DVD can countain more film: if an artist believes his album is balanced and his story is told in 30 minutes and that adding material would spoil it or break its pace, there's nothing to add to that, it's their "baby". AOA and PlecEl are 2 distinct projects with both their own pace and identity, the 3rd album will certainly be in another mood, so I enjoy being able to listen to those albums separately.

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Reply #14 posted 10/20/14 11:44am

Miles

2freaky4church1 said:

I'm in snoozeville about PR deluxe.

So is Prince, if this further new album is (hopefully) coming out sometime soon.

Prince on phone to Warners, shouting - 'Why do you keep talking about this ancient album we did years ago?? What's it called again? Purple ...?' yawns . 'No, I've told you before, of course you can't have any vault tracks, I might need them for the album I'm releasing with Sony week after next!' lol .

[Edited 10/20/14 11:51am]

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Reply #15 posted 10/20/14 11:45am

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Big City is definiteyl on it as it was #bigcity in the the tweet.

Oher stuff?

Shades Of Umber - how could a tune like this be left of a horns release? it's magical

Revelation - definitely, because NPG Official is playing on this track.

The Excess Space - perhaps

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Reply #16 posted 10/20/14 11:49am

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jaypotton said:

leadline said:

Great news! I knew this 3rd album would hit!

So I looked on both Twitter accounts and could not see this on either! Am I blind?

I found nothing either. So you all can keep your panties on.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan
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Reply #17 posted 10/20/14 11:58am

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mordang said:

jaypotton said:

leadline said: So I looked on both Twitter accounts and could not see this on either! Am I blind?

I found nothing either. So you all can keep your panties on.

It was definitely there this morning and it's on the Purplessence twitter account (which has been verified) now. If it has been deleted you might find some remnants of the conversation on Baron's twitter as he was involved in the discussion along with Jester (I think). It was tweeted as confirmed by 3RDEYEGIRL though.

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Reply #18 posted 10/20/14 11:59am

OperatingTheta
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leadline said:

Big City is definiteyl on it as it was #bigcity in the the tweet.

Oher stuff?

Shades Of Umber - how could a tune like this be left of a horns release? it's magical

Revelation - definitely, because NPG Official is playing on this track.

The Excess Space - perhaps

2 Young 2 Dare was also mentioned as being included today.

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Reply #19 posted 10/20/14 12:00pm

TwiliteKid

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databank said:

stillwaiting said:

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

I agree with CB, as it was a comp of totally random outtakes aimed at fans, they should all 3 have been 80mn, it was frustrating as hell!

.

When it comes to new albums I think the position is somewhat harder to stand, for 3 reasons:

.

1/ There's been a huge trend to return to the old 45mn duration after the 1990-2005 craze to do 65 to 80mn albums all the time. I suspect the reason is that artists came to realize that people were more receptive to a good 45mn than to an album that was so long that unless u were totally into it u'd get bored 4 or 5 tracks before it ends. I personally came to realize that I definitely feel more comfy listening to 45 minutes than 75, unless the music is really blowing me away.

.

2/ CD is a format on the decline, at least it's not the leading format anymore and it will keep declining. It's not a matter of opinion or predictions anymore: sales figures are explicit. A digital album can be... er... forever. So basically now albums can quite indifferently be 20 minutes or 4 hours and I believe this is part of the reason why EP's have become such a popular format over the last 5 years. On the other hand, since digital prices are usually based on a 1 song = 99 cents basis, the cost of buying 3 albums or 2 will be quite similar, discouts aside, for the buyer because buying 2x15 songs or 3x10 songs costs the same in the end.

.

3/ More importantly even: albums are works of art. Even if they remain mainly compilation of songs they're usually from a single set of sessions and put together according to a certain logic: there needs to be a certain cohesiveness and a certain pace: artists will decide which songs and in which order with aesthetic preoccupations in mind. From that point of view saying an album (that's not a compilation but a real album) should be 45 minutes to fill CD's is as nonsensical as telling a writer he should write 100 more pages because his novel is too short, or a director to shoot 2 hours of additional scenes because a DVD can countain more film: if an artist believes his album is balanced and his story is told in 30 minutes and that adding material would spoil it or break its pace, there's nothing to add to that, it's their "baby". AOA and PlecEl are 2 distinct projects with both their own pace and identity, the 3rd album will certainly be in another mood, so I enjoy being able to listen to those albums separately.

All of this. Demanding an artist fill an album just because the space is there is nonsense.

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Reply #20 posted 10/20/14 12:02pm

Marco81

I think you're confusing the 3rdEyeGirl account with Dr. Funkenberry's. it has indeed been retweeted by Purplessence though. https://twitter.com/baron...8623959040

OperatingThetan said:



mordang said:




jaypotton said:


leadline said: So I looked on both Twitter accounts and could not see this on either! Am I blind?



I found nothing either. So you all can keep your panties on.




It was definitely there this morning and it's on the Purplessence twitter account (which has been verified) now. If it has been deleted you might find some remnants of the conversation on Baron's twitter as he was involved in the discussion along with Jester (I think). It was tweeted as confirmed by 3RDEYEGIRL though.


[Edited 10/20/14 12:04pm]
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Reply #21 posted 10/20/14 12:09pm

TwiliteKid

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OperatingThetan said:

mordang said:

I found nothing either. So you all can keep your panties on.

It was definitely there this morning and it's on the Purplessence twitter account (which has been verified) now. If it has been deleted you might find some remnants of the conversation on Baron's twitter as he was involved in the discussion along with Jester (I think). It was tweeted as confirmed by 3RDEYEGIRL though.

Purpleessence has not been verified by Twitter. If it had, it would have a checkmark next to the username.

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Reply #22 posted 10/20/14 12:25pm

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stillwaiting said:

databank said:

I find it quite absurd for a fan to complain about their favorite artist releasing TOO MUCH music, only here such absurdities happen rolleyes

There will be enough place for PR Deluxe on YOUR shelves, won't there? So what then?

It doesn't matter anymore. When oversaturation of the market did matter, Prince and Warners blew it big time from 1985-1993. What would be better, is for Prince and Warners to understand that cds take 80 minutes of music. It would be nice to have some cds filled up. Instead, they are milking us with 3 different albums...and buying songs on the cds we already paid for on downloads as well...

Plect and AOA total 93 minutes....not good.

Prince purposely made Crystal Ball 40 minutes or so a disc just to be hard headed...less music, more cds...bad business.

I don't get the current need to fill every minute of a cd with music. i would rather have a cohesive 45 minute cd of music than fill the whole cd. 80 mins is too long and hard to digest. i know we got 2 albums but both were seperate cohesive albums with a sound on each. Some bands insist on it these days and the albums suffer.

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Reply #23 posted 10/20/14 12:26pm

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Please tell me "Revelation" will be on it. I need that song. cool

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Reply #24 posted 10/20/14 12:28pm

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OperatingThetan said:

What Prince is trying to do in my opinion, with the recent albums, is to deliver something tight and cohesive that works as a sequential listening experience. He's been accused previously, of including too much filler in his albums, particularly funk jams, etc. and not editing enough. AOA is an incredibly strong and potent journey that I wouldn't want to see diluted for the sake of 'bonus' tracks and padding. I'd quite happily take those songs on some kind of compilation designed for 'fans' though. Same goes for extended versions, jams and other experiments (such as 'Midnight Blues' on 3RDEYETV for example).

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The core problem is crappy songs, and that hasn't been solved. Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good.

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Reply #25 posted 10/20/14 12:28pm

trickster

whatever happens i am ready!! if this storry turns to be true i will eat the CD's and buy them again wink

i need new music more than i need a rerelease of PR - if i am the only one - i am sorry ... the songs didnt get any better on PR- they are the best!

so, i love AOA and listen to it every day - and i like PE and listen to it every day to- give me more!!

... and wasnt there a preview of the 3rdeyegirl show in Paris ??? this is something i would realy like to buy - after all this years - prince, give us a Live-DVD!!!!!!!!!! pleeaaasssseee

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Reply #26 posted 10/20/14 12:34pm

BEAUGARDE

Warner's refusal, is this the reasoning behind not promoting his current albums? R they fighting again, already?

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Reply #27 posted 10/20/14 12:36pm

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Kara said:

Please tell me "Revelation" will be on it. I need that song. cool


Yes I also hope it's on the album smile
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Reply #28 posted 10/20/14 12:39pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

Warner's refusal, is this the reasoning behind not promoting his current albums? R they fighting again, already?

I believe you are making an assumption at this point. Where is your proof that there is fighting between the too? Prince has to pay for more promotion if he wants it. It's a WB and NPG release.

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Reply #29 posted 10/20/14 1:18pm

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BartVanHemelen said:



OperatingThetan said:



What Prince is trying to do in my opinion, with the recent albums, is to deliver something tight and cohesive that works as a sequential listening experience. He's been accused previously, of including too much filler in his albums, particularly funk jams, etc. and not editing enough. AOA is an incredibly strong and potent journey that I wouldn't want to see diluted for the sake of 'bonus' tracks and padding. I'd quite happily take those songs on some kind of compilation designed for 'fans' though. Same goes for extended versions, jams and other experiments (such as 'Midnight Blues' on 3RDEYETV for example).



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The core problem is crappy songs, and that hasn't been solved. Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good.



How is it fact that the songs aren't very good.

What is a fact is the majority of people who posted about it on the org enjoy the album.

Just admit it. It isn't fact how can it be fact. Provide me with the evidence where it has been universally agreed any song ever written isn't any good.
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