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bashraka

Prince Drops $22 million lawsuit against Alleged Bootleggers

Prince v. Chodera - Voluntary Dismissal Without Prejudice

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Prince's voluntary dismissal of his copyright and anti-bootlegging action. Dismissal with prejudice means he can bring the action again. It is unclear from the document why Prince dismissed the action. Last week, he had made a motion for expedited discovery to identify the Doe defendants.

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This thread follows on from http://prince.org/msg/7/404520
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Reply #1 posted 01/28/14 5:47pm

thisisreece

Good news. Any chance this was just a scare tatic on P's behalf?

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Reply #2 posted 01/28/14 5:49pm

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Well, if it was a publicity stunt, he certainly grabbed some worldwide headlines.

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Reply #3 posted 01/28/14 5:53pm

EvilAngel

He's still a dick.

Case closed. hammer

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Reply #4 posted 01/28/14 5:58pm

lezama

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He just gave 'em a warning.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/14 6:04pm

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Reply #6 posted 01/28/14 6:04pm

Timmy84

Who was really surprised? lol

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Reply #7 posted 01/28/14 6:09pm

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Timmy84 said:

Who was really surprised? lol



Prince's voluntary dismissal of his copyright and anti-bootlegging action. Dismissal with prejudice means he can bring the action again. It is unclear from the document why Prince dismissed the action.


I was like wthh????!!! eek

I figure because of the album and shows in the UK ................. go figure.

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Reply #8 posted 01/28/14 6:18pm

tab32792

I don't even know what to say. He's smart tho. Scare the shit out of every bootleg source into shutting down then drop lawsuit.
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Reply #9 posted 01/28/14 6:42pm

nursev

Publicity stunt or not...he listened. Yes he still hates his fans, we know that and deal with it, but I know that any real Prince fan does not wanna see him go out like a joke. Like him or not, that dude is talented. He created my favorite song ever and he gets props for that. Now bring on Plectrum Electrum with more Prince and less chicks lol
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Reply #10 posted 01/28/14 6:43pm

tab32792

I just want a WORLD TOUR AND A GOOD ALBUM.
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Reply #11 posted 01/28/14 6:45pm

nursev

tab32792 said:

I just want a WORLD TOUR AND A GOOD ALBUM.


That too nod
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Reply #12 posted 01/28/14 6:49pm

nursev

And while ya'll at it lock that bootleg ass thread falloff
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Reply #13 posted 01/28/14 6:52pm

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Must be too much of a distraction at the moment when they are preparing for the tour and album release, to continue with it at the moment, but I don't think it will be totally forgotten.
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Reply #14 posted 01/28/14 6:55pm

Stymie

tab32792 said:

I don't even know what to say. He's smart tho. Scare the shit out of every bootleg source into shutting down then drop lawsuit.

If you think all the sites are gone, you're kidding yourself.

My friend, a lawyer who's an expert on copyright law, said the lawsuit was a bluff . He was right.
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Reply #15 posted 01/28/14 6:57pm

tab32792

Stymie said:

tab32792 said:

I don't even know what to say. He's smart tho. Scare the shit out of every bootleg source into shutting down then drop lawsuit.

If you think all the sites are gone, you're kidding yourself.

My friend, a lawyer who's an expert on copyright law, said the lawsuit was a bluff . He was right.



Unless you're planning to hook a brotha up via PM, I'm sticking to my statement lol
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Reply #16 posted 01/28/14 7:09pm

EddieC

tab32792 said:

I just want a WORLD TOUR AND A GOOD ALBUM.

I just want a WORLD TOUR AND A GOOD ALBUM--and the sites that let me hear the world tour that I have almost no chance of getting to see a show from.

But mainly, I want a good album. Or two. Or more.

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Reply #17 posted 01/28/14 7:12pm

tab32792

EddieC said:



tab32792 said:


I just want a WORLD TOUR AND A GOOD ALBUM.


I just want a WORLD TOUR AND A GOOD ALBUM--and the sites that let me hear the world tour that I have almost no chance of getting to see a show from.



But mainly, I want a good album. Or two. Or more.




Lmao I agree. Apparently there's still places out there but I'm oblivious to them.
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Reply #18 posted 01/28/14 7:25pm

Stymie

tab32792 said:

Stymie said:


If you think all the sites are gone, you're kidding yourself.

My friend, a lawyer who's an expert on copyright law, said the lawsuit was a bluff . He was right.



Unless you're planning to hook a brotha up via PM, I'm sticking to my statement lol
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Reply #19 posted 01/28/14 7:36pm

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Stymie said:

tab32792 said:
I don't even know what to say. He's smart tho. Scare the shit out of every bootleg source into shutting down then drop lawsuit.
If you think all the sites are gone, you're kidding yourself. My friend, a lawyer who's an expert on copyright law, said the lawsuit was a bluff . He was right.


I am going to assume that all my analyses were right on the money!

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Reply #20 posted 01/28/14 7:40pm

Stymie

RodeoSchro said:



Stymie said:


tab32792 said:
I don't even know what to say. He's smart tho. Scare the shit out of every bootleg source into shutting down then drop lawsuit.

If you think all the sites are gone, you're kidding yourself. My friend, a lawyer who's an expert on copyright law, said the lawsuit was a bluff . He was right.


I am going to assume that all my analyses were right on the money!

yep. lol
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Reply #21 posted 01/28/14 9:30pm

mschirmer

I'm sorry but Prince is an asshole. I love the man but he has steamrolled his career into the ground with all these petty copyright lawsuits. If he spent just a quarter of the energy he does sending his dogs after people on YouTube, etc. the man might have been able to remain a relevant recording artist. It's so sad. The only people who have a grasp on his contribution to pop culture are the select few that experienced it 30 years ago. The younger generation doesn't have a clue because they can't explore his career like they can everyone else. So all they have is his new music and the shitty Purple Rain clips that have been played into the ground. It's as if he didn't exist and when he dies, it will look like he only recorded one album and a few singles. I have younger friends that have no clue about his career because they cAnt check him out anywhere online. Prince needs to stop looking on the mirror and start opening his heart and mind.
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Reply #22 posted 01/28/14 9:30pm

bashraka

http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/242495671.html

rince goes after bootleggers again, to the tune of $22M

The lawsuit, since dropped, is star’s latest move to protect music.

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Prince sued 22 accused bootleggers for $1 million each, but the offending links were quickly pulled. “That is our goal,” Prince said in a statement.

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Facebook users concerned about privacy issues now have to worry about someone else monitoring their posts: Prince.

Minneapolis’ most famous and litigious superstar made news again this week with a $22 million copyright-infringement suit against 22 accused bootleggers, many of whom were tracked down via Facebook links to bootlegged concert recordings.

A sign of the little rock star’s sizable legal muscle, the links were swiftly pulled. Therefore, Prince does not plan to pursue the claims of $1 million per defendant, said his lawyer, Rhonda Trotter of Los Angeles.

“Our continuous goal is to provide a high quality experience for fans,” Prince said in a statement released by Trotter. “When we see material that does not represent that quality, we will ask to have it taken down. We regret that we had to take this action to be taken seriously. However, we are pleased that the material has been taken down. That is our goal.”

The events are just the latest skirmish in the rock legend’s ongoing battle to prevent unapproved distribution of his music.

In 2007, Prince was one of the more high-profile names to file suit against the download website Pirate Bay, which caused Internet providers around the world to ban the site. That same year, his lawyers infamously forced a California mom to take down a YouTube video of her toddler dancing while “Let’s Go Crazy” played in the background.

In this new case, he went after downloads of live recordings, ranging from a 1983 Chicago gig to a 2011 show in Charlotte, N.C. An earlier cease-and-desist request had no effect, according to a Prince representative, so he filed suit in U.S. District Court in northern California, where Facebook and Google have their headquarters. According to the suit, links were posted via Facebook or Google’s Blogger platform, but neither company was named as a defendant.

Some fans expressed anger on Prince.org and other fan forums, seeing this latest lawsuit as the same old song and dance, but some Twin Cities music-business professionals suggest there’s a method to the legal maneuvering.

“Prince, in my mind, is clearly entitled to raise these issues,” said Minneapolis entertainment attorney Ken Abdo, who has represented such Minnesota stars as Jonny Lang and Owl City.

Unlike most major recording artists, Prince does not have a record company to represent him, so he has to file lawsuits on his own behalf, Abdo noted.

“He may think like Disney, which raises these kind of issues at regular intervals to send a message,” Abdo said. “This way, everyone knows Prince might sue you if you mess with his property.”

Band manager Paul Gillis said many music acts do not take legal action against concert bootleggers because it might dampen ticket sales and general enthusiasm, but it certainly should be up to the artist.

“Prince created that music, and it’s up to him to decide how he wants others to experience it,” said Gillis, who helped get local singer Jeremy Messersmith signed to Mumford & Sons’ record label recently. “We also don’t know if Prince was planning on releasing a live album down the road, so there may be deeper motivations behind the lawsuit.”

Fans not surprised

One of Prince’s most die-hard Twin Cities fans, Heidi Vader — who saw 12 of his shows in the past year and heard the debut of “Purple Rain” at First Avenue in 1983 — thinks the singer might be shrewd enough to see the publicity value in such lawsuits.

“It seems well timed to the ‘New Girl’ episode and the London shows,” Vader said, referencing Prince’s next two big to-dos. (He will appear in the Fox sitcom “New Girl” following the Super Bowl on Sunday, and then he is expected to announce a run of shows in England on Monday).

Said Vader, “In this day and age, it’s illogical for him to think this sort of thing won’t happen. It would make sense if people were actually making money off these [bootlegs], but they’re not.”

One commenter on the Prince.org fan site argued that bootlegs “keep the fans interested. Fans still pay for what gets released. … We are just fans that want more.”

Robert Poppo, an Indiana fan who treks to the Twin Cities for Prince shows, defended the singer: “People might stop going to his concerts if they know they can get recordings of the shows for free.”

In legal terms, Abdo said, determining financial damage is difficult. That’s just one reason most artists turn a blind eye to the type of bootlegging targeted in this latest case.

“He’s an unusual guy, but he’s unusually successful,” Abdo said. “He has the financial means to pursue these legal actions, which a lot of other independent artists don’t have.”

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Reply #23 posted 01/28/14 11:22pm

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I had hard time believing he would be serious about destroying people's lives with the sums he demanded. For a moment it did look like he was serious about it though.

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Reply #24 posted 01/29/14 12:14am

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Apart from the publicity this got, it was a fantastic way of getting the fickle fans to come out of their Prince bashing closets and air their frustrations in public... biggrin

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Reply #25 posted 01/29/14 12:17am

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Well at least he got some sense (for now), he better leave his fans alone. There must be other ways to fight what he thinks is piracy.

@P, First bring on the album Plectrum Electrum and play some fantastic shows in London.

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Reply #26 posted 01/29/14 12:33am

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Reply #27 posted 01/29/14 12:33am

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I see the Org has been mentioned and members quoted on BBC News?
He won't be too happy about that.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...y-25927363
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Reply #28 posted 01/29/14 1:41am

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soooooo?????

This was all just a publicity stunt.

Just to get the media attention.

F*ck you, Prince. mad

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Reply #29 posted 01/29/14 2:31am

Javi

Rorywan said:

I see the Org has been mentioned and members quoted on BBC News? He won't be too happy about that. smile http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...y-25927363 [Edited 1/29/14 0:35am]

Well, my quote was clearly in favour of his action, so I guess he should be happy with that. lol Anyway, of course I think he should have continued the lawsuit, though reducing the quantities. In the nineties he showed artists that they should fight for their independence and their rights against record companies, and now he is showing that they should do it against some so-called fans who totally disrespect his artistry. Well done, even if he has dropped the lawsuit.

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