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Reply #210 posted 11/19/13 10:21am

mjscarousal

Has Prince lost his mojo?

It just seems like he doesnt care anymore. The song sounds lazy and kinda boring.

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Reply #211 posted 11/19/13 10:28am

bashraka

The track is a demo. Prince sounding lazy is another matter. I'm guessing the lyrics were in free form and the music was impromptu. There is no way a 7 time Grammy Award, Academy Award and Golden Globe winner "forgot how to write a song".
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Reply #212 posted 11/19/13 10:31am

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Demo or whatever it is...it's boring and the lyrics suck. Sorry Prince, this one didn't do it for me.

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Reply #213 posted 11/19/13 10:47am

undertheesea

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I like the song. Feels very Prince as Prince.

Lyrics puzzles always are my favorite

And I did not interpret as having a go at lesbians at all.


hmmm hmmm


Does he really mean a girl, or a guy who looks like a girl???

And bearded girl reminded me of a girl who pretends to be girlfriend in order to cover up that mister is afraid to come out of the closet as gay.


Doe he mean dirty in a good way, like getting all sweaty and licking eachother everywhere and satisfying every body part that exist?

Or does he mean something ordain as the dirty world of mordern politics?

The bourgeoisie is the upper class being all content with themselves whilst leeching of the poor and middle class.



And yes he feels betrayed, but is it a romantic betrayel of is it the governmental betrayel that is dissapointing?

You know, the democrats or the republicans are all the samen, politicians getting rich at the cost of the people's health. It's just another puppet with a different wig in the administration.



Who is this song about?

For who did he write this song?

hmmm ...yeah i dont know. Interesting interpretation.

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Reply #214 posted 11/19/13 10:53am

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mjscarousal said:

Has Prince lost his mojo?

probably back in 96-97.....

Busy doin' something close to nothing
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Reply #215 posted 11/19/13 10:54am

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wasnt crazy about this at first but a few spins has me feeling it..

as for the lifestyle/dirty world i just had a thought: prince's shit has always been about veiled meanings..how can i present this sly enough that you can read me more than one way? the man gets his rocks off watching people figure him out.. (like really, whats new about this?)

at first i heard it as a lesbian dig (like most i guess) but then again, we're primed to take offense at damn near anything these days - especially when it comes to the LGBT community..and yet..prince may, still, be more clever than we give him credit for

the "a man is only good for a rainy day" bit does seem like a nod in one direction, but he could also be using "a man" in the same sense as your man or "a partner in a monogamous relationship" (which would have to be a man in this context cuz the betrayed party is prince.)

ie: a man(see: official partner) is only good in the mean time-inbetween time >>> what does having a man to you mean if you stay steppin out (bisexual or not)?

it's about loyalty if you ask me but..however you cut it we'll never know and prince likes it that way..its really standard fare

that being said..prince needs a band that pushes him again...hearing this i think of the kiss demo - this is far more interesting in my opinion (especially the turn around at G) but imagine what would happen if it were punched up by the right team (or if he was forced to punch it up after hearing it through anothers ears - ala mazarati).. at its root its a solid prince song..skilled, deceptively simple, funky, and a bit odd...with the right production value the naysaying would be drowned out...

if you or one of your team reads this P, we get it bruh..the girls are good at taking orders..but you need someone to challange that ass...bootsy took james to another level if you ask me brother.

twocents

[Edited 11/19/13 10:55am]

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Reply #216 posted 11/19/13 11:03am

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AndrePatrone said:

wasnt crazy about this at first but a few spins has me feeling it..

as for the lifestyle/dirty world i just had a thought: prince's shit has always been about veiled meanings..how can i present this sly enough that you can read me more than one way? the man gets his rocks off watching people figure him out.. (like really, whats new about this?)

at first i heard it as a lesbian dig (like most i guess) but then again, we're primed to take offense at damn near anything these days - especially when it comes to the LGBT community..and yet..prince may, still, be more clever than we give him credit for

the "a man is only good for a rainy day" bit does seem like a nod in one direction, but he could also be using "a man" in the same sense as your man or "a partner in a monogamous relationship" (which would have to be a man in this context cuz the betrayed party is prince.)

ie: a man(see: official partner) is only good in the mean time-inbetween time >>> what does having a man to you mean if you stay steppin out (bisexual or not)?

it's about loyalty if you ask me but..however you cut it we'll never know and prince likes it that way..its really standard fare

that being said..prince needs a band that pushes him again...hearing this i think of the kiss demo - this is far more interesting in my opinion (especially the turn around at G) but imagine what would happen if it were punched up by the right team (or if he was forced to punch it up after hearing it through anothers ears - ala mazarati).. at its root its a solid prince song..skilled, deceptively simple, funky, and a bit odd...with the right production value the naysaying would be drowned out...

if you or one of your team reads this P, we get it bruh..the girls are good at taking orders..but you need someone to challange that ass...bootsy took james to another level if you ask me brother.

twocents

[Edited 11/19/13 10:55am]

It would seem reasonable to give him the benefit of the doubt, so to speak, except for the fact that this is not the first time that he has made homophobic remarks. True, last time he sort of explained them away without apologizing or taking them back, but still.

No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #217 posted 11/19/13 11:08am

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During my morning commute today on 97.3 here in the Bay Area they have a segment called new music tuesday where they play a snippet of tunes & one of them was this joint.

They all loved it & called it really funky. One of the DJ's Vinne said after a a few bass lines "That's it, I'm all in."

[Edited 11/19/13 11:10am]

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Reply #218 posted 11/19/13 11:24am

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itsjustaroundthecorner said:

Princey has some 'splainin' to do.

this is some bullshit right here...

'dirty'? F*ck that!

you know whats dirty? being a brainwashed religious fool.

im done with this asshole. .im done.. 30 years of being a complete and utter DIE HARD.

but i just cannot give him any more excuses.. i cant do it..

i wouldnt do it for any other artist/politician.. but i made excuses for Prince... he is just pushing buttons, he doesnt really mean that, its a double-meaning can be interpreted differently.. blah blah..

too exhausting.. he doesnt like gay people.. FINE..

i dont like religious idiots who think its OK to condemn other people.

He's DEFINATELY pushin' buttons!

This is exactly the kind of response i was waiting for after pages of reading this thread.

It's controversy.

He did it with the masses before, they just weren't necessarily hardcore fans...

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Prost!

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #219 posted 11/19/13 11:33am

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lust said:

Homophobia is slowly being relegated the way of other prejudices before it particularly in more cecular countries but even in the U.S, state after state is recognising people's rights to love who they want. An international star should understand what's happening and realise that history will judge harshly those who aired such views just as surely as we now judge someone who felt validated in the 40s for banning Jews from country clubs, Irish from bars or blacks from just about anywhere. I'm all for the belief that political correctness has gone too far but Prince crossed a line today for me. This ain't polite society. Grow with it and be part of human betterment or be consigned to "relic" who's views require excuses to be made. "It was a different time!" These views are all the more distasteful to me when they come from someone who is of a community who has suffered such prejudice. I still love you Prince but I think I'll stay uptown and shan't be joining you in the suburbs. [Edited 11/18/13 9:59am]

Everybody hates something.

I hate those people who don't set their blinker before leaving the traffic circle.

...but only for a quick minute.

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Prost!

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #220 posted 11/19/13 11:42am

RodeoSchro

Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.

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Reply #221 posted 11/19/13 11:49am

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Dave1992 said:

Prince has earned the right to say whatever the fuck he wants. Let him abuse people in his lyrics, let him be ignorant, let him be sarcastic, let him have a dark sense of humour, let him be bitter, let him make fun of the weak! Boo-hoo.

If he were to talk like this in a serious discussion, we could get our panties in a twist. But the fact is, he's not a politician, he's a musician. And the great thing about being a musician is, you don't have to give a single fuck about what people think about you and about how people react to what you say.


The jam is funky, and I like it when Prince does a Clarkson and stirs up a bit of controversy. Brings a bit of colour into our boring, politically correct lives.

lol clapping clapping clapping

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Prost!!!

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #222 posted 11/19/13 12:05pm

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prince seems to get left for women a lot

"u and ur girlfriend never ever been strait"

"that wasn't your dress you had on, it wasn't your perfume"

all in all this song is just another song where prince sounds stupid using phrases from cultures he is not apart of and clearly knows nothing about .. its like when he tries to sound all hip hop and he just sounds stupid .. or when he tries to sound like he knows what the bible is all about and he just sounds like he is repeatings something someone else told him to say .. none of it sounds genuine or from a place of knowing .. it sounds like it comes from a place of condescension .. like princey thinks he knows best but he really doesn't know much of anything anymore, including how to write a song that does not suck

rolleyes

Don't bring that hot mess into this thread! prince has been all over the world and then some. Don't under estimate his intelligence . Everybody has learned things from someone else. U never learn ENOUGH! Please just vanish!!!!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #223 posted 11/19/13 12:18pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.


I hate that. He takes away the only thing left enjoyable about music. Theft. He's supposed to charge so that we can feel good about having got a way with something when we steal it. Its a major part of today's listening experience.


Get your spoon to keep the sarcasm from pooling below.
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Reply #224 posted 11/19/13 12:22pm

nayroo2002

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coffeebreak said:

I can't see what's all the fuss about. It's a demo, so it has a rough sound, which I don't dislike, but anyway.

The story is simple: a man is angry to a girl who made him believe she wanted him, and instead is cheating on him with other girl/s.

If she cheated with another guy, nobody would complain (and it would be nothing new, too).

What's interesting is I never heard a song in which Prince speaks about male homosexuality explicitly, while it's at least the second song about lesbians (Bambi being n.1).

Still it doesn't seem homophobic to me, a cheater is a cheater and yes lesbian sex can be dirty as much as eterosexual sex. Especially if you're cheating on someone. If he's calling his ex a "bearded woman" it's surely quite offensive, but he called someone "sexy motherfucker" and another one "irresistible bitch" so I can't say I'm surprised. razz

The title seems to hint we should think about it as metaphorical, though. WHich at the moment I'm absolutely unable to do, due to ill kids and sleepless nights, so I'll just enjoy the funk.

That's good shit!

Oh, shit! Am i allowed to say "shit"?

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Prost!

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #225 posted 11/19/13 12:26pm

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TrevorAyer said:

prince seems to get left for women a lot

"u and ur girlfriend never ever been strait"

"that wasn't your dress you had on, it wasn't your perfume"

all in all this song is just another song where prince sounds stupid using phrases from cultures he is not apart of and clearly knows nothing about .. its like when he tries to sound all hip hop and he just sounds stupid .. or when he tries to sound like he knows what the bible is all about and he just sounds like he is repeatings something someone else told him to say .. none of it sounds genuine or from a place of knowing .. it sounds like it comes from a place of condescension .. like princey thinks he knows best but he really doesn't know much of anything anymore[...]

"Jack U Off", anyone?

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Prost!

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #226 posted 11/19/13 12:46pm

V10LETBLUES

I think people have a problem with supposed homophobia based on his supposed problems with Wendy and Lisa over it. After he became a JW he has a history of trying impose his beliefs on others. If that didn't loom over his head, then I would say people were taking this too seriously too, but that is not the case. Like with anything, there is context.

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Reply #227 posted 11/19/13 1:09pm

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New track, finally dancing jig. Saw this thread earlier before work and was like doh!. Busy day, so it flew by as I salivated. It's been on repeat for over an hour. Makes no sense. Love it. That guitar line is da spit. Dah neh, neh neh. Lyrics are high-larious. Fake as a christmas tree, bearded lady, fuck he is going on about? Had to have made this as a follow-up to Bambi in '82 nuts. Not feeling a homophobic vibe from it. That's not his style. He's just playing dirty, naive old man instead of young man like it's cousin. Fun as fuck! CHARLES! Not even worried about an album, if he drops more kooky stuff like this and Breakfast... by the time I get sick of this one lol. You go, sir!

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Reply #228 posted 11/19/13 1:12pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.

Oh shit, yah nod. Forgot about that part. Free stuff is always welcome in my household clapping.

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Reply #229 posted 11/19/13 1:53pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.

Oh yes. Music should be free. Culture should be free. You have to pay for trousers, beers and omelettes, but musicians can fuck off and get no money for their work. confused

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Reply #230 posted 11/19/13 2:01pm

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Javi said:



RodeoSchro said:


Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.



Oh yes. Music should be free. Culture should be free. You have to pay for trousers, beers and omelettes, but musicians can fuck off and get no money for their work. confused


Prince set the price point....jeesh.
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Reply #231 posted 11/19/13 2:42pm

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Gohi said:

I will ignore the obviously terrible lyrics. Let's focus on the song. It's really rough. It lacks anything resembling a hook or a chorus. All it is is a groove that gets boring after a few measures. I wish Prince would remember how to write actual SONGS not just tired funk grooves and "jams."

Been saying that for years.

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Reply #232 posted 11/19/13 4:48pm

thedoorkeeper

RodeoSchro said:

Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.

Oh man can you imagine the complaining if people had paid .99 cents

for a demo that isn't even a complete song? The bitching would never end.

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Reply #233 posted 11/19/13 4:57pm

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thedoorkeeper said:




RodeoSchro said:


Well love it, like it, or hate it, I do appreciate Prince making this song available for the low low cost of $0.00.



Oh man can you imagine the complaining if people had paid .99 cents


for a demo that isn't even a complete song? The bitching would never end.


That shit irritates me to NO END. U know how often my PO ass donates a dollar at the register for some children's hospital or bums out 4 ciggs in a day. 88¢ for a fuckin song...ure gonna bitch about that... Really! Its MUCH less than a THOUSANDTH of a typical monthly income. Only thing I bitch about or feel ashamed of is being to PO to buy it sometimes.


Less than a THOUSANDTH people.... C'mon now.
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Reply #234 posted 11/19/13 5:02pm

Identity

Gohi said: I wish Prince would remember how to write actual SONGS not just tired funk grooves and "jams."

This. Currently, he's in a perpetual State of Mediocrity.

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Reply #235 posted 11/19/13 5:50pm

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BartVanHemelen said: Gohi said: I will ignore the obviously terrible lyrics. Let's focus on the song. It's really rough. It lacks anything resembling a hook or a chorus. All it is is a groove that gets boring after a few measures. I wish Prince would remember how to write actual SONGS not just tired funk grooves and "jams." Been saying that for years. YES! U are spot on. Back in the day P had some of the best, well crafted and thought out songs with meaningful lyrics that most people could relate to.
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Reply #236 posted 11/19/13 5:55pm

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Love it. Tight as hell.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #237 posted 11/19/13 5:57pm

thedoorkeeper

BobGeorge909 said:

thedoorkeeper said:

Oh man can you imagine the complaining if people had paid .99 cents

for a demo that isn't even a complete song? The bitching would never end.

That shit irritates me to NO END. U know how often my PO ass donates a dollar at the register for some children's hospital or bums out 4 ciggs in a day. 88¢ for a fuckin song...ure gonna bitch about that... Really! Its MUCH less than a THOUSANDTH of a typical monthly income. Only thing I bitch about or feel ashamed of is being to PO to buy it sometimes. Less than a THOUSANDTH people.... C'mon now.

I agree . Look at the amount of bitching here for a song that is free. You would think they did pay for it. And less than a dollar for a song is a great deal. I should know I keep going to Amazon & buy songs late at nite when I'm high.

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Reply #238 posted 11/19/13 6:03pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

Gohi said:

I will ignore the obviously terrible lyrics. Let's focus on the song. It's really rough. It lacks anything resembling a hook or a chorus. All it is is a groove that gets boring after a few measures. I wish Prince would remember how to write actual SONGS not just tired funk grooves and "jams."

Been saying that for years.

Yet you're still here. Obviously there's something you like.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #239 posted 11/19/13 6:28pm

brookinz

Really dig this song. The lyrics are unique for Prince world. It reminds me a bit of how Bon Iver writes lyrics. Whatever words come out, come out....as long as the "sense" of the words carry the meaning and fits the music, then perfect!

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The song is free form without being too loose with a cool "Prince attitude". Listened to it about 7x today and LOVING IT.

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As far as any lesbophobic whatever....whatever. This song sounds much more about the PERSON who happens to be a lesbian, opposed to hating on lesbians.

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