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Prince & Morris Recordings

I stumbled upon this interesting little story that I wasn't previously aware of:

"Prince and Morris Day worked on the dance remix of [Let's Work] on 8 December 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound. It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the dance remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running."

I'm now curious to know what other tracks feature Prince and Morris. So far I have:

Let's Work

Cloreen Bacon Skin

The Walk

Dance to the Beat

Partyup (Live)

I'm guessing "Tricky" and I've heard rumors that Morris is scattered throughout many of the songs cut between 1980 and 1981. Can anyone confirm this or list specific songs with Prince and Morris playing (not just singing, that is)?

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Reply #1 posted 12/12/11 11:51am

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Morris played drums on New Power Generation http://www.princevault.co...Generation

That's....eh, all I can think of right now. lol

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alphachannel said:

I stumbled upon this interesting little story that I wasn't previously aware of:

"Prince and Morris Day worked on the dance remix of [Let's Work] on 8 December 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound. It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the dance remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running."

I'm now curious to know what other tracks feature Prince and Morris. So far I have:

Let's Work

Cloreen Bacon Skin

The Walk

Dance to the Beat

Partyup (Live)

I'm guessing "Tricky" and I've heard rumors that Morris is scattered throughout many of the songs cut between 1980 and 1981. Can anyone confirm this or list specific songs with Prince and Morris playing (not just singing, that is)?

Morris on drums on 4 Tricky

Jesse Johnson was used on a few songs during the What Time is It? - Ice Cream Castles sessions

Jesse Johnson was involved on Cloreen Bacon Skin too, guitar on Ice Cream Castles, If the Kid Can't Make U Come, Jungle Love, My Drawers, My Summertime Thang (1983), the Bird,

I'm looking into what other songs Morris played drums on though

Get It Up has Matt Fink on synth & My Stick synth Dr Fink & Lisa Coleman

just a few

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alphachannel said:

I stumbled upon this interesting little story that I wasn't previously aware of:

"Prince and Morris Day worked on the dance remix of [Let's Work] on 8 December 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound. It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the dance remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running."

I'm now curious to know what other tracks feature Prince and Morris. So far I have:

Let's Work

Cloreen Bacon Skin

The Walk

Dance to the Beat

Partyup (Live)

I'm guessing "Tricky" and I've heard rumors that Morris is scattered throughout many of the songs cut between 1980 and 1981. Can anyone confirm this or list specific songs with Prince and Morris playing (not just singing, that is)?

Before 2003, I had always wondered why the extended version had 2 different beats. I can tell that Prince wasn't playing the 2nd half, but couldn't tell who it was.

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Why Morris never play the drums live in any of his gigs? Even when he first toured in the late eighties early nineties alone. Never played live...I would like 2 c him play. Especially "Let's Work" live with Prince on his mega successful W2A tour.

In LOvInG MeMORy Of JoHn L. nElSoN pKa PRINCE ROGERS 4 aLl He TaUgHt HiS mUsIcAl SoN."JuSt WhEn U tHoUgHt It WaS sAFE wAiT a FeW dAyS b4 U wAsTe AnY pRaYeRs " prince
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Morris played drums on New Power Generation http://www.princevault.co...Generation

That's....eh, all I can think of right now. lol

I didn't know that. Makes me wonder if Morris was also drumming on any of the "Corporate World" tracks, Murph Drag in particular...

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Why Morris never play the drums live in any of his gigs? Even when he first toured in the late eighties early nineties alone. Never played live...I would like 2 c him play. Especially "Let's Work" live with Prince on his mega successful W2A tour.

He played drums on Party Up live with Prince in 1982 @ 1st Avenue

I think there was another show where he played drums and it was a combination of Prince & the noituloveR Vanity 6 & the Time

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alphachannel said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Morris played drums on New Power Generation http://www.princevault.co...Generation

That's....eh, all I can think of right now. lol

I didn't know that. Makes me wonder if Morris was also drumming on any of the "Corporate World" tracks, Murph Drag in particular...

Possible, PV lists Prince as playing most instruments on Corporate World though http://www.princevault.co...rate_World

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OldFriends4Sale said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Why Morris never play the drums live in any of his gigs? Even when he first toured in the late eighties early nineties alone. Never played live...I would like 2 c him play. Especially "Let's Work" live with Prince on his mega successful W2A tour.

He played drums on Party Up live with Prince in 1982 @ 1st Avenue

I think there was another show where he played drums and it was a combination of Prince & the noituloveR Vanity 6 & the Time

Oh ok! I would like 2 c that...

In LOvInG MeMORy Of JoHn L. nElSoN pKa PRINCE ROGERS 4 aLl He TaUgHt HiS mUsIcAl SoN."JuSt WhEn U tHoUgHt It WaS sAFE wAiT a FeW dAyS b4 U wAsTe AnY pRaYeRs " prince
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Reply #9 posted 12/12/11 7:29pm

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alphachannel said:

I stumbled upon this interesting little story that I wasn't previously aware of:

"Prince and Morris Day worked on the dance remix of [Let's Work] on 8 December 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound. It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the dance remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running."

I'm now curious to know what other tracks feature Prince and Morris. So far I have:

Let's Work

Cloreen Bacon Skin

The Walk

Dance to the Beat

Partyup (Live)

I'm guessing "Tricky" and I've heard rumors that Morris is scattered throughout many of the songs cut between 1980 and 1981. Can anyone confirm this or list specific songs with Prince and Morris playing (not just singing, that is)?

Do you remember exactly what it said? I don't recall that, but that is some great info!

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #10 posted 12/13/11 4:26am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



alphachannel said:


I stumbled upon this interesting little story that I wasn't previously aware of:



"Prince and Morris Day worked on the dance remix of [Let's Work] on 8 December 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound. It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the dance remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running."



I'm now curious to know what other tracks feature Prince and Morris. So far I have:



Let's Work


Cloreen Bacon Skin


The Walk


Dance to the Beat


Partyup (Live)



I'm guessing "Tricky" and I've heard rumors that Morris is scattered throughout many of the songs cut between 1980 and 1981. Can anyone confirm this or list specific songs with Prince and Morris playing (not just singing, that is)?



Morris on drums on 4 Tricky



Jesse Johnson was used on a few songs during the What Time is It? - Ice Cream Castles sessions



Jesse Johnson was involved on Cloreen Bacon Skin too, guitar on Ice Cream Castles, If the Kid Can't Make U Come, Jungle Love, My Drawers, My Summertime Thang (1983), the Bird,



I'm looking into what other songs Morris played drums on though



Get It Up has Matt Fink on synth & My Stick synth Dr Fink & Lisa Coleman



just a few




oldfriends you are wrong about my drawers.it's all prince on guitar. You are right about everything else smile
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thebanishedone said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Morris on drums on 4 Tricky

Jesse Johnson was used on a few songs during the What Time is It? - Ice Cream Castles sessions

Jesse Johnson was involved on Cloreen Bacon Skin too, guitar on Ice Cream Castles, If the Kid Can't Make U Come, Jungle Love, My Drawers, My Summertime Thang (1983), the Bird,

I'm looking into what other songs Morris played drums on though

Get It Up has Matt Fink on synth & My Stick synth Dr Fink & Lisa Coleman

just a few

oldfriends you are wrong about my drawers.it's all prince on guitar. You are right about everything else smile

There is someone I communicate with who has a lot of the background info on the studio and live shows of the Times/Morris Days career. Has Jesse on guitar, I'll talk to him, but why do you say it's all Prince?

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What's the matter with your life
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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

He played drums on Party Up live with Prince in 1982 @ 1st Avenue

I think there was another show where he played drums and it was a combination of Prince & the noituloveR Vanity 6 & the Time

Oh ok! I would like 2 c that...

March 8th, 1982 First Avenue, Minneapolis

1.Bambi
2.All the Critics Love U in NY (preview)
3.When U Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 the Beat (the Time)
9.the Stick (the Time)
10.Party Up (Prince and the noituloveR with Morris Day on drums)

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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On 15th March 1983, Prince returns in triumph to Minneapolis for a concert at 13,500-seat Met Center in Bloomington. A post-show bash was held at the Registry Hotel in Bloomington. At 2:00 am, some members of [Prince]'s band, Vanity 6 and THE TIME played a short jam session with Prince on the drums and Sue Ann Carwell singing.

On 16th May 1983 [Prince] appears at the 3rd annual Minnesota Music Awards at the Charlton Celebrity Room in Bloomington and was finally honored with six awards. He thanked Minneapolis for its support and ended the night with a 10-minute jam of "D.M.S.R." on borrowed equipment with a mix of members of his own band, [Morris Day], [Jesse Johnson] and Vanity 6. Later this night they performed a jam session at First Avenue in Minneapolis with [Morris Day or Jesse Johnson] on drums and Sue Ann Carwell singing the lead vocals.

First Avenue
"Cloreen Bacon Skin"
guest-Prince

the show listed is not connected with the pic, the pic is from the show above it



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OldFriends4Sale said:

thebanishedone said:

OldFriends4Sale said: oldfriends you are wrong about my drawers.it's all prince on guitar. You are right about everything else smile

There is someone I communicate with who has a lot of the background info on the studio and live shows of the Times/Morris Days career. Has Jesse on guitar, I'll talk to him, but why do you say it's all Prince?

Any info you can get would be great -- I'm really intrigued to hear more about Morris' musical role in Prince's career...

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Reply #15 posted 12/13/11 7:49am

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How can there be a third person on 'Cloreen'— there are only two instruments!?

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Pbing said:

How can there be a third person on 'Cloreen'— there are only two instruments!?

I always thought it was just Prince and Morris but if indeed Jesse was there then maybe it's Prince on vocals, Jesse on bass and Morris on drums. Jesse has jammed on drums with Prince but I don't know if Morris can also play bass. Nearly anything's possible though...

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Reply #17 posted 12/13/11 10:13am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



thebanishedone said:


OldFriends4Sale said:


Morris on drums on 4 Tricky



Jesse Johnson was used on a few songs during the What Time is It? - Ice Cream Castles sessions



Jesse Johnson was involved on Cloreen Bacon Skin too, guitar on Ice Cream Castles, If the Kid Can't Make U Come, Jungle Love, My Drawers, My Summertime Thang (1983), the Bird,



I'm looking into what other songs Morris played drums on though



Get It Up has Matt Fink on synth & My Stick synth Dr Fink & Lisa Coleman



just a few





oldfriends you are wrong about my drawers.it's all prince on guitar. You are right about everything else smile

There is someone I communicate with who has a lot of the background info on the studio and live shows of the Times/Morris Days career. Has Jesse on guitar, I'll talk to him, but why do you say it's all Prince?


i said you were right about everything except my drawers.my drawers don't have jesse on guitar.it's all prince.and i'm glad that you have a friend who knows details about recording sessions,but if you listen prince for a long time and if you're musician it's easy to distinct when prince plays some instrument. But anyway there are other orgers who know it's prince on my ddrawers.ask blackguitaristz or don't ,just listen to the song
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thebanishedone said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

There is someone I communicate with who has a lot of the background info on the studio and live shows of the Times/Morris Days career. Has Jesse on guitar, I'll talk to him, but why do you say it's all Prince?

i said you were right about everything except my drawers.my drawers don't have jesse on guitar.it's all prince.and i'm glad that you have a friend who knows details about recording sessions,but if you listen prince for a long time and if you're musician it's easy to distinct when prince plays some instrument. But anyway there are other orgers who know it's prince on my ddrawers.ask blackguitaristz or don't ,just listen to the song

Well by the Time Ice Cream Castles was about, Jesse was playing Prince's style pretty good

Blackguitaristz isn't around anymore that I know of. I've listened to the songs since 1984...

No problem I'm just trying to get correct info, no need for the attitude

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What's the matter with your life
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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
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OldFriends4Sale said:

thebanishedone said:

OldFriends4Sale said: i said you were right about everything except my drawers.my drawers don't have jesse on guitar.it's all prince.and i'm glad that you have a friend who knows details about recording sessions,but if you listen prince for a long time and if you're musician it's easy to distinct when prince plays some instrument. But anyway there are other orgers who know it's prince on my ddrawers.ask blackguitaristz or don't ,just listen to the song

Well by the Time Ice Cream Castles was about, Jesse was playing Prince's style pretty good

Blackguitaristz isn't around anymore that I know of. I've listened to the songs since 1984...

No problem I'm just trying to get correct info, no need for the attitude

Nothing really established by this

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i don't know wheater is prince or jesse?
I strongly belive it's Prince. Jessie's sound and style is completely different. Listen to "Jungle Love". That's Jessie. Compare the two. Prince is playing all the the guitars on all The Time's albums except for Jungle Love. If you notice, Jessie wrote Jungle Love as well.
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OldFriends4Sale said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Oh ok! I would like 2 c that...

March 8th, 1982 First Avenue, Minneapolis

1.Bambi
2.All the Critics Love U in NY (preview)
3.When U Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 the Beat (the Time)
9.the Stick (the Time)
10.Party Up (Prince and the noituloveR with Morris Day on drums)

No! I mean actually c footage of it...

In LOvInG MeMORy Of JoHn L. nElSoN pKa PRINCE ROGERS 4 aLl He TaUgHt HiS mUsIcAl SoN."JuSt WhEn U tHoUgHt It WaS sAFE wAiT a FeW dAyS b4 U wAsTe AnY pRaYeRs " prince
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

March 8th, 1982 First Avenue, Minneapolis

1.Bambi
2.All the Critics Love U in NY (preview)
3.When U Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 the Beat (the Time)
9.the Stick (the Time)
10.Party Up (Prince and the noituloveR with Morris Day on drums)

No! I mean actually c footage of it...

Yeah I know, I was just posting the info to the show,

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OldFriends4Sale said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

No! I mean actually c footage of it...

Yeah I know, I was just posting the info to the show,

Oh ok cool..... giggle

In LOvInG MeMORy Of JoHn L. nElSoN pKa PRINCE ROGERS 4 aLl He TaUgHt HiS mUsIcAl SoN."JuSt WhEn U tHoUgHt It WaS sAFE wAiT a FeW dAyS b4 U wAsTe AnY pRaYeRs " prince
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thebanishedone said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Morris on drums on 4 Tricky

Jesse Johnson was used on a few songs during the What Time is It? - Ice Cream Castles sessions

Jesse Johnson was involved on Cloreen Bacon Skin too, guitar on Ice Cream Castles, If the Kid Can't Make U Come, Jungle Love, My Drawers, My Summertime Thang (1983), the Bird,

I'm looking into what other songs Morris played drums on though

Get It Up has Matt Fink on synth & My Stick synth Dr Fink & Lisa Coleman

just a few

oldfriends you are wrong about my drawers.it's all prince on guitar. You are right about everything else smile

Jesse did the solo on My Drawers. He wasn't happy with the volume that the solo got, but it is his.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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However, there were dissensions in the studio, and guitarist Jesse Johnson, who was strongly involved in the project, was disappointed in Prince's strong control over the group, "He only let me write and produce on the last Time album because he knew I was quitting, and when I quit anyway he took my production credit off. I wrote, played and produced stuff like 'Jungle Love.'"

However, there were dissensions in the studio, and guitarist Jesse Johnson, who was strongly involved in the project, was disappointed in Prince's strong control over the group, "He only let me write and produce on the last Time album because he knew I was quitting, and when I quit anyway he took my production credit off. I wrote, played and produced stuff like 'Jungle Love.'"

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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #25 posted 12/13/11 12:32pm

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Either way, 'My Drawers' has got some of my favorite guitaring of any Prince-related track. Awesome track.

I have no secret info but it's always sounded not very Prince-y to me, being a more riff-centric song. In my head that sort of stronger slashing rhythmic playing is more JJ. But of course I could be wrong.

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The basic tracks were recorded in studio 2 at Sunset Sound starting on Wednesday, January 11, 1984. Over the next several days, Prince spent a lot of time working on the song, which included additional work by Jesse Johnson who recorded his solo soon after that. In the end, Jesse was unhappy with the way Prince mixed it. This is based on personal interviews with Jesse Johnson while doing research for the book PRINCE: The Studio Sessions. Hope that clears that up a little bit.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #27 posted 12/13/11 2:31pm

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Morris played drums on New Power Generation http://www.princevault.co...Generation

That's....eh, all I can think of right now. lol

And you can definitely hear that it's him on the drums on this song too! Especially the demo version.

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Reply #28 posted 12/13/11 5:51pm

Trickology

I have it on good authority from my source of "No Person in Particular" the following happened.

One day Morris was cooking bacon in the studio. Prince objected to bacon being cooked in such close proximity. THIS was the last straw for Prince's patience. He said to Morris "Why the hell are you cooking so much damn bacon?" Morris shrugged and responded, "Who doesn't love bacon?" The band got terribly quiet. It was then the following happened. Prince looked at Morris and threw his spatula and said, "It is either the bacon or the band. What time is it, brother? " Morris grabbed another spatula off his belt (how COOL is that?!?!) and said "It is always time for bacon" Morris laughed & then he continued cooking bacon. (Who wouldn't though? It is bacon and you got the stove on, why the hell not?) Prince immediately shut down the studio and sent everybody home. The Time had run out of sand in their hourglass.

Folks, this is completely disgraceful. The Time broke up over cooking bacon in the studio! And my source "No Person in Particular" is VERY credible.

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Reply #29 posted 12/13/11 8:31pm

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The basic tracks were recorded in studio 2 at Sunset Sound starting on Wednesday, January 11, 1984. Over the next several days, Prince spent a lot of time working on the song, which included additional work by Jesse Johnson who recorded his solo soon after that. In the end, Jesse was unhappy with the way Prince mixed it. This is based on personal interviews with Jesse Johnson while doing research for the book PRINCE: The Studio Sessions. Hope that clears that up a little bit.



no this is not true,the guitar player on my drawers is prince.don't let sound effecs fool you
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